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No, we are tweety birds........

Henry Barber

wegandy1938@... wrote:

> Being serious for a moment, I would like to pick your collective brains on

> this:

>

> Pins on Badges as an infection control problem.

>

> It has been my considered opinion that personal jewelry such as rings, pins

> on name badges, and the badges themselves are possible infection carriers,

just

> as are stethoscopes and other items of personal equipment that we use and

> seldom clean.

>

> I have heard it expressed that name badges with picture ID ought not be worn

> for that reason, and it is perfectly legal not to wear a name badge if your

> name and level of certification is printed on your shirt.

>

> Should we be concerned about this in this day of concern about bioterrorism?

> Are we potential " infection vectors? "

>

> Gene G.

>

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No, we are tweety birds........

Henry Barber

wegandy1938@... wrote:

> Being serious for a moment, I would like to pick your collective brains on

> this:

>

> Pins on Badges as an infection control problem.

>

> It has been my considered opinion that personal jewelry such as rings, pins

> on name badges, and the badges themselves are possible infection carriers,

just

> as are stethoscopes and other items of personal equipment that we use and

> seldom clean.

>

> I have heard it expressed that name badges with picture ID ought not be worn

> for that reason, and it is perfectly legal not to wear a name badge if your

> name and level of certification is printed on your shirt.

>

> Should we be concerned about this in this day of concern about bioterrorism?

> Are we potential " infection vectors? "

>

> Gene G.

>

>

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No, we are tweety birds........

Henry Barber

wegandy1938@... wrote:

> Being serious for a moment, I would like to pick your collective brains on

> this:

>

> Pins on Badges as an infection control problem.

>

> It has been my considered opinion that personal jewelry such as rings, pins

> on name badges, and the badges themselves are possible infection carriers,

just

> as are stethoscopes and other items of personal equipment that we use and

> seldom clean.

>

> I have heard it expressed that name badges with picture ID ought not be worn

> for that reason, and it is perfectly legal not to wear a name badge if your

> name and level of certification is printed on your shirt.

>

> Should we be concerned about this in this day of concern about bioterrorism?

> Are we potential " infection vectors? "

>

> Gene G.

>

>

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Henry I never ever wear my Rolex watch while observing surgery.

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No, we are tweety birds........

Henry Barber

wegandy1938@... wrote:

> Being serious for a moment, I would like to pick your collective brains on

> this:

>

> Pins on Badges as an infection control problem.

>

> It has been my considered opinion that personal jewelry such as rings, pins

> on name badges, and the badges themselves are possible infection carriers,

just

> as are stethoscopes and other items of personal equipment that we use and

> seldom clean.

>

> I have heard it expressed that name badges with picture ID ought not be worn

> for that reason, and it is perfectly legal not to wear a name badge if your

> name and level of certification is printed on your shirt.

>

> Should we be concerned about this in this day of concern about bioterrorism?

> Are we potential " infection vectors? "

>

> Gene G.

>

>

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Henry I never ever wear my Rolex watch while observing surgery.

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No, we are tweety birds........

Henry Barber

wegandy1938@... wrote:

> Being serious for a moment, I would like to pick your collective brains on

> this:

>

> Pins on Badges as an infection control problem.

>

> It has been my considered opinion that personal jewelry such as rings, pins

> on name badges, and the badges themselves are possible infection carriers,

just

> as are stethoscopes and other items of personal equipment that we use and

> seldom clean.

>

> I have heard it expressed that name badges with picture ID ought not be worn

> for that reason, and it is perfectly legal not to wear a name badge if your

> name and level of certification is printed on your shirt.

>

> Should we be concerned about this in this day of concern about bioterrorism?

> Are we potential " infection vectors? "

>

> Gene G.

>

>

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Henry I never ever wear my Rolex watch while observing surgery.

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No, we are tweety birds........

Henry Barber

wegandy1938@... wrote:

> Being serious for a moment, I would like to pick your collective brains on

> this:

>

> Pins on Badges as an infection control problem.

>

> It has been my considered opinion that personal jewelry such as rings, pins

> on name badges, and the badges themselves are possible infection carriers,

just

> as are stethoscopes and other items of personal equipment that we use and

> seldom clean.

>

> I have heard it expressed that name badges with picture ID ought not be worn

> for that reason, and it is perfectly legal not to wear a name badge if your

> name and level of certification is printed on your shirt.

>

> Should we be concerned about this in this day of concern about bioterrorism?

> Are we potential " infection vectors? "

>

> Gene G.

>

>

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So should we not wear belts since we rarely clean them?

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wash your belt when you clean your Rolex watch that should be sufficient.

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So should we not wear belts since we rarely clean them?

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wash your belt when you clean your Rolex watch that should be sufficient.

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So should we not wear belts since we rarely clean them?

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wash your belt when you clean your Rolex watch that should be sufficient.

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So should we not wear belts since we rarely clean them?

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I don't know. I'm just asking the questions. If you read a bunch of stuff

on infection control, it leads you to ask these questions. I don't pretend to

know the answers, and I don't mean to suggest the answers. If there's no

problem, there's no problem. On the other hand, if we end up spreading anthrax

or smallpox...........

gg

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So should we not wear belts since we rarely clean them?

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I don't know. I'm just asking the questions. If you read a bunch of stuff

on infection control, it leads you to ask these questions. I don't pretend to

know the answers, and I don't mean to suggest the answers. If there's no

problem, there's no problem. On the other hand, if we end up spreading anthrax

or smallpox...........

gg

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So should we not wear belts since we rarely clean them?

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I don't know. I'm just asking the questions. If you read a bunch of stuff

on infection control, it leads you to ask these questions. I don't pretend to

know the answers, and I don't mean to suggest the answers. If there's no

problem, there's no problem. On the other hand, if we end up spreading anthrax

or smallpox...........

gg

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So should we not wear belts since we rarely clean them?

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Half kidding and half not. Influenza is a great concern of mine, but HIV is

not. HIV is the most overrated risk for health care providers there has ever

been. Read the CDC stuff. Unless you get a needle stick, no problem. MRSA

is a concern.

GG

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In a message dated 8/12/2004 12:39:41 AM Central Daylight Time,

wegandy1938@... writes:

On the other hand, if we end up spreading anthrax

or smallpox...........

you're kidding right? Sorry but even in my line of work I'm more worried

about flu and HIV in the back of the buss on a day to day basis.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

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Half kidding and half not. Influenza is a great concern of mine, but HIV is

not. HIV is the most overrated risk for health care providers there has ever

been. Read the CDC stuff. Unless you get a needle stick, no problem. MRSA

is a concern.

GG

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lnmolino@... writes:

In a message dated 8/12/2004 12:39:41 AM Central Daylight Time,

wegandy1938@... writes:

On the other hand, if we end up spreading anthrax

or smallpox...........

you're kidding right? Sorry but even in my line of work I'm more worried

about flu and HIV in the back of the buss on a day to day basis.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

LNMolino@...

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Half kidding and half not. Influenza is a great concern of mine, but HIV is

not. HIV is the most overrated risk for health care providers there has ever

been. Read the CDC stuff. Unless you get a needle stick, no problem. MRSA

is a concern.

GG

In a message dated 8/12/2004 12:52:00 AM Central Daylight Time,

lnmolino@... writes:

In a message dated 8/12/2004 12:39:41 AM Central Daylight Time,

wegandy1938@... writes:

On the other hand, if we end up spreading anthrax

or smallpox...........

you're kidding right? Sorry but even in my line of work I'm more worried

about flu and HIV in the back of the buss on a day to day basis.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

LNMolino@...

(Home Office)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

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author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or

organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with

unless I

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No, , it's HIPAA titis.

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I believe hippa helps spread hepatitis.

Re: Pins on Badges

In a message dated 8/12/2004 12:39:41 AM Central Daylight Time,

wegandy1938@... writes:

On the other hand, if we end up spreading anthrax

or smallpox...........

you're kidding right? Sorry but even in my line of work I'm more worried

about flu and HIV in the back of the buss on a day to day basis.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

LNMolino@...

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Actually it was between Honduras and Nicaragua. Another interesting thing

happened there. There was an elephant being transported in the back of a

deuce-and-a-half with high sideboards. It was going from Nicaragua to Honduras,

and

the Hondurans insisted upon spraying the elephant with insecticide.

The elephant was NOT on board with this and as the Hondurans started

spraying, the elephant began attempting to jump out of the truck. One of the

Honduran

Migres jumped up onto the side of the truck and attempted to spray the

elephant down with a power sprayer. The elephant took its trunk and knocked the

officer about 20 feet down the road where he lay, sick, sore, lame, and

disabled.

The Nicaraguans with the elephant soon were given the go ahead to cross the

border. The agente migracion was dragged away by his compadres and disappeared

into the border station.

My friends and I, having seen nothing, knowing nothing, and hearing nothing,

were finally allowed to cross the border without being sprayed down, but we

did have to walk through a trough filled with about an inch of some kind of

white liquid. Gauging the general mood of the Agentes de Migracion to be

somewhat less than amiable, we protested not.

gg

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Gene was that the border of Ladona and New Mexico where you had to disinfect?

Seriously where did they make you do that? England during their blood purge

of cattle?

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Actually it was between Honduras and Nicaragua. Another interesting thing

happened there. There was an elephant being transported in the back of a

deuce-and-a-half with high sideboards. It was going from Nicaragua to Honduras,

and

the Hondurans insisted upon spraying the elephant with insecticide.

The elephant was NOT on board with this and as the Hondurans started

spraying, the elephant began attempting to jump out of the truck. One of the

Honduran

Migres jumped up onto the side of the truck and attempted to spray the

elephant down with a power sprayer. The elephant took its trunk and knocked the

officer about 20 feet down the road where he lay, sick, sore, lame, and

disabled.

The Nicaraguans with the elephant soon were given the go ahead to cross the

border. The agente migracion was dragged away by his compadres and disappeared

into the border station.

My friends and I, having seen nothing, knowing nothing, and hearing nothing,

were finally allowed to cross the border without being sprayed down, but we

did have to walk through a trough filled with about an inch of some kind of

white liquid. Gauging the general mood of the Agentes de Migracion to be

somewhat less than amiable, we protested not.

gg

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lnmolino@... writes:

Gene was that the border of Ladona and New Mexico where you had to disinfect?

Seriously where did they make you do that? England during their blood purge

of cattle?

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

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author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or

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Actually it was between Honduras and Nicaragua. Another interesting thing

happened there. There was an elephant being transported in the back of a

deuce-and-a-half with high sideboards. It was going from Nicaragua to Honduras,

and

the Hondurans insisted upon spraying the elephant with insecticide.

The elephant was NOT on board with this and as the Hondurans started

spraying, the elephant began attempting to jump out of the truck. One of the

Honduran

Migres jumped up onto the side of the truck and attempted to spray the

elephant down with a power sprayer. The elephant took its trunk and knocked the

officer about 20 feet down the road where he lay, sick, sore, lame, and

disabled.

The Nicaraguans with the elephant soon were given the go ahead to cross the

border. The agente migracion was dragged away by his compadres and disappeared

into the border station.

My friends and I, having seen nothing, knowing nothing, and hearing nothing,

were finally allowed to cross the border without being sprayed down, but we

did have to walk through a trough filled with about an inch of some kind of

white liquid. Gauging the general mood of the Agentes de Migracion to be

somewhat less than amiable, we protested not.

gg

In a message dated 8/12/2004 1:35:11 AM Central Daylight Time,

lnmolino@... writes:

Gene was that the border of Ladona and New Mexico where you had to disinfect?

Seriously where did they make you do that? England during their blood purge

of cattle?

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

LNMolino@...

(Home Office)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

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author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or

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I believe hippa helps spread hepatitis.

Re: Pins on Badges

In a message dated 8/12/2004 12:39:41 AM Central Daylight Time,

wegandy1938@... writes:

On the other hand, if we end up spreading anthrax

or smallpox...........

you're kidding right? Sorry but even in my line of work I'm more worried

about flu and HIV in the back of the buss on a day to day basis.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

LNMolino@...

(Home Office)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

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author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or

organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with

unless I

specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only

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I believe hippa helps spread hepatitis.

Re: Pins on Badges

In a message dated 8/12/2004 12:39:41 AM Central Daylight Time,

wegandy1938@... writes:

On the other hand, if we end up spreading anthrax

or smallpox...........

you're kidding right? Sorry but even in my line of work I'm more worried

about flu and HIV in the back of the buss on a day to day basis.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

LNMolino@...

(Home Office)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the

author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or

organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with

unless I

specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only

for its

stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials

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I believe hippa helps spread hepatitis.

Re: Pins on Badges

In a message dated 8/12/2004 12:39:41 AM Central Daylight Time,

wegandy1938@... writes:

On the other hand, if we end up spreading anthrax

or smallpox...........

you're kidding right? Sorry but even in my line of work I'm more worried

about flu and HIV in the back of the buss on a day to day basis.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

LNMolino@...

(Home Office)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

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author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or

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Gene,

I think you're right on target. I often ask students if they have young

children or animals at home, (sometimes you can't tell the difference). They

crawl on the floor, everything is hand to mouth and we come home with all kinds

of

crap on our boots. Ever been to a large swine farm? They have better

disinfection procedures than most hospitals.

Barry Meffert

In a message dated 8/12/2004 1:32:03 AM Central Daylight Time,

wegandy1938@... writes:

I've been across borders where you had to step into a pan of bleach solution

to disinfect your boots before you could cross the border. That's to keep

down diseases in cattle and horses. Yet we never disinfect our shoes or

boots,

now do we? I'm just as guilty as the next one.

Once again I ask the question: Is this something that we need to worry

about? Consider, for example, the prevalence of MRSA in hospitals. Are we

taking

that out with us and contaminating our ambulances?

GG

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