Guest guest Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 > > I was just thinking about this as I wrote another message: > > Has anyone had trouble determining whether ANYTHING helps. People with inadequate mood stability have this problem. People who try a bunch of stuff that doesn't help have this problem. >I am having a hard time with that. It seems like there is no " usual " level of symptoms for me, everything varies so extremely without any kind of pattern that I can tell! Could be diet, could be mood issues. Diet most likely. >And even when Ican find SOME reason (like something was making it worse, it seems to only explain a small percentage of this constant changing.) I can't tell how mnay things I have tried , and thought they helped, only to find a day or so later I felt bad again. And other times feel good like that for No reason. Sometimes there are pattern to this, other times none at all: > > Here are some examples of things that are more consistent: > -I usually feel better late at night. Very typical of mercury, and maybe adrenal dysregulation. > -Worse during my period. Typical of mood stability related problems. > > Here are examples that fluctuate constantly: > -(sometimes I fall asleep in <3 min, other times >2 hours and not related to amount of sleep, time of day, anything) Mood stability. > -I feel much better some days and much worse others. Sometimes this can be just a day, portion of a day, or several. There is no consistent pattern other than the " bad days " are much more than good. Mood stability. > -overall,, my symptoms just appear to fluctuate randomly, both within minutes, (example I can go from feeling reaonably okay one minute, to feeling almost like in an " adrenal crisis " - with no infection or anything, and I'm on an adequate cortef does) and over longer periods (days, weeks, etc) Mood stability. > > So, how do I tell if anything helps if nothing seems to? It seems like there is no " baseline " to compare to since every day is so different, and nothing seems to DRAMATICALLY help. Is there something I should be trying that would make a huge difference, that would then let me feel more consistenlty better to fine tune the other things? > > I am trying > -supplements (lots, although I dont know any that really help other than magnesium for muscle cramps) > -thyroid - Armour > -iron for low ferretin Often doesn't really help. > -cortef (not trying this, have to be on it) > etc. > > See if your doctor wants to try some mood stabilizing medications with you (maybe half of the usual doses), expect them to be calming and sedating (probably annoyingly so), expect it to take a while to get used to not being as passionate or bouncy. After a few weeks see if you have better insight into both what works and what is going on with other people and how they are reacting to you. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 I agree with you about the mood stabilizers Christiana. When I went on them after Prozac triggered an adverse reaction, it induced a mood instability consisting of very irritable mood and agitation. I took Depakote for 2 years and what it did is TOTALLY WORSEN my chronic fatigue by putting more of an overload on my already ailing liver. This worsened my situation and I finally got off them and found natural/nutritional ways to support my mood. Improving my adrenal function and my thyroid function took care of my mood instability as well. Re: Re: ?? nothing consistent > Hi! Andy (the Dr Cutler part is in my heart, ;o) ) > > I'm not certain that you would make the same suggestions if you realized > that R is in her early 20's and already dx w/ 's... > > I strongly disagree with you, Andy, about the mood stabilizers. This young > woman has 's (tx w/ H/C), is chelating (for extended periods,) > titrating Armour Natural Thyroid, and working full-time. She is doing a > heroic job of juggling her time and her treatments and she has made > tremendous progress in the past few months. > > Before you suggest adding more therapies, *please*, understand this young > woman has just condensed two and a half pages of therapies down to the > essentials. > > While I follow you with tremendous respect and gratitude, and my friends > think I'm part of the Andy Cutler Cult, I have to say, I don't think mood > meds would be as helpful as uninterrupted sleep, and another several months > doing all of the sound treatments she's diligently doing, already. > > > Very Respectfully, > ... > (still mercury-toxic but a friend of R.'s, nonetheless) > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was just thinking about this as I wrote another message: > > > > > > Has anyone had trouble determining whether ANYTHING helps. > > > > People with inadequate mood stability have this problem. > > > > People who try a bunch of stuff that doesn't help have this problem. > > > > >I am having a hard time with that. It seems like there is no > > " usual " level of symptoms for me, everything varies so extremely > > without any kind of pattern that I can tell! > > > > Could be diet, could be mood issues. Diet most likely. > > > > >And even when Ican find SOME reason (like something was making it > > worse, it seems to only explain a small percentage of this constant > > changing.) I can't tell how mnay things I have tried , and thought > > they helped, only to find a day or so later I felt bad again. And > > other times feel good like that for No reason. Sometimes there are > > pattern to this, other times none at all: > > > > > > Here are some examples of things that are more consistent: > > > -I usually feel better late at night. > > > > Very typical of mercury, and maybe adrenal dysregulation. > > > > > -Worse during my period. > > > > Typical of mood stability related problems. > > > > > > Here are examples that fluctuate constantly: > > > -(sometimes I fall asleep in <3 min, other times >2 hours and not > > related to amount of sleep, time of day, anything) > > > > Mood stability. > > > > > -I feel much better some days and much worse others. Sometimes > > this can be just a day, portion of a day, or several. There is no > > consistent pattern other than the " bad days " are much more than good. > > > > > > Mood stability. > > > > > -overall,, my symptoms just appear to fluctuate randomly, both > > within minutes, (example I can go from feeling reaonably okay one > > minute, to feeling almost like in an " adrenal crisis " - with no > > infection or anything, and I'm on an adequate cortef does) and over > > longer periods (days, weeks, etc) > > > > Mood stability. > > > > > > So, how do I tell if anything helps if nothing seems to? It seems > > like there is no " baseline " to compare to since every day is so > > different, and nothing seems to DRAMATICALLY help. Is there something > > I should be trying that would make a huge difference, that would then > > let me feel more consistenlty better to fine tune the other things? > > > > > > I am trying > > > -supplements (lots, although I dont know any that really help > > other than magnesium for muscle cramps) > > > -thyroid - Armour > > > -iron for low ferretin > > > > Often doesn't really help. > > > > > -cortef (not trying this, have to be on it) > > > etc. > > > > > > > > See if your doctor wants to try some mood stabilizing medications with > > you (maybe half of the usual doses), expect them to be calming and > > sedating (probably annoyingly so), expect it to take a while to get > > used to not being as passionate or bouncy. After a few weeks see if > > you have better insight into both what works and what is going on with > > other people and how they are reacting to you. > > > > Andy > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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