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At 04:53 AM 4/27/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>Just a few hours ago the radio station I listen to quite often, which

>is in Wisconsin had a caller who works in constitutional law, indicate

>freedomall.com was taken off the internet by the US government. That

>website apparently covered the unconstitutionality of taxes of some

>sort. Some of you may know of it. They didn't give an alternate

>address. I wonder if anyone in that group would have ideas to

>implement against governments control of individuals food choices.

Freedomall.com is registered to Cowan of Dallas Texas. He is also

the registered owner http://www.marijuananews.com/. Is is a former

national director of NORML His email address is cowan@...

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>> freedomall.com was taken off the internet by the US government. That

website apparently covered the unconstitutionality of taxes of some

Funny this should come up. Just two days ago I came across this site (by

accident) on the unconstitutionality of taxes:

http://uhuh.com/homepage.htm#TaxStuff <http://uhuh.com/homepage.htm>

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I am glad to see that Irv is doing very well with his new toy. I had my

implant surgery on October 28th, last year.My surgeon Dr. Di Tirro and

audiologist Tanner of Kaiser here in Hollywood, California both did an

outstanding job. I was fitted with Nucleus 24 BWP and G3 processor,which I use

100% of

the time. The Bwp is stored away. I am wondering,whether its worth while for

me to swap my Bwp for a new Freedom processor, and how expensive to make the

change. Thank you, Moses Katz

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I can tell you that the battery compartment for the freedom whether it be a

BWP or a BTE will cost you about $3000.00. I got activated early in Sept and

the BWP for the Freedom is not out yet, so I got stuck with 2 BTE. The BWP

for the freedom won't be out until sometime in Dec. I asked my audiologist

to call Cochlear and find out the prices for the BWP b/c I thought maybe I

could just purchase one. When I found out the price my jaw dropped and I

then asked her to find out if I could trade one of my BTE in for a BWP ONCE

they do come out in DEC. They said I could do that ONLY if I did not use the

other BTE battery compartment. So I put one of them up and am patiently

waiting for the BWP to come out.

I am not sure how much the processor cost though. I just know how much the

battery compartment for the freedom and the BWP for the freedom will cost.

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

chinamoses@...

Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:50 PM

Subject: Re: FREEDOM

I am glad to see that Irv is doing very well with his new toy. I had my

implant surgery on October 28th, last year.My surgeon Dr. Di Tirro and

audiologist Tanner of Kaiser here in Hollywood, California both did an

outstanding job. I was fitted with Nucleus 24 BWP and G3 processor,which I

use 100% of

the time. The Bwp is stored away. I am wondering,whether its worth while

for

me to swap my Bwp for a new Freedom processor, and how expensive to make the

change. Thank you, Moses Katz

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$3grand for the battery holder seems a bit steep. The usual price for

the other BTE's, the Esprit and 3G, is $6,000. As to new products and

delivery dates, well, its safe to say maybe December. " I will believe it

when I see it " .

You can trade anything that has not been opened. Once opened, no trade.

*---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

I put my air conditioner in backwards. It got cold outside. The weatherman

on TV was confused. " It was supposed to be hot today. "

& Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)

Newport, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rclark0276@...

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Well if you stop and think about it for a min it kind of makes sense. If its

6 grand for the whole BTE including the processor and battery holder then

what they are doing is dividing that price in half since it takes BOTH the

processor AND the battery pack for the BTE to work. Yes I think its way to

much to ask for a battery compartment but that's what they are asking. I

really hope they go down on the price.

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 1:53 PM

Subject: Re: FREEDOM

,

$3grand for the battery holder seems a bit steep. The usual price for

the other BTE's, the Esprit and 3G, is $6,000. As to new products and

delivery dates, well, its safe to say maybe December. " I will believe it

when I see it " .

You can trade anything that has not been opened. Once opened, no trade.

*---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

I put my air conditioner in backwards. It got cold outside. The weatherman

on TV was confused. " It was supposed to be hot today. "

& Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)

Newport, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rclark0276@...

http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ NEW Home Page!

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I wrote earlier enquiring whether it is worth while for me to trade in my

Nucleus 24N BWP for a FREEDOM processor. I have yet heard from anyone. Thank

you, moses

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To me - there is no cost to high if it brings me good hearing

especially when insurance picks up the cost for most of us. Hearing

is priceless.

Alice

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>

> ,

> $3grand for the battery holder seems a bit steep. The usual

price for

> the other BTE's, the Esprit and 3G, is $6,000. As to new products and

> delivery dates, well, its safe to say maybe December. " I will

believe it

> when I see it " .

>

> You can trade anything that has not been opened. Once opened,

no trade.

>

> *---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

> I put my air conditioner in backwards. It got cold outside. The

weatherman

> on TV was confused. " It was supposed to be hot today. "

> & Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)

> Newport, Oregon

> N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

> rclark0276@c...

> http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ NEW Home Page!

>

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I don't have the New Freedom but I do have the 3G and that is the price of it or

was. While the price sounds outrageous you have to remember that we are paying

for all of the technology that goes into making the CI. there is more to the

battery than just contacts. There is more to the little computer that sits on

your head than just a little piece of plastic.

When you stop and think about all of the technology that has gone into making

the New Freedom with 4 maps to programs that little computer chip is worth every

penny. I admit I didn't have to pay out of pocket for mine but if I had had the

money I would have shelled it out in a hurry to be able to hear again.

How much is your hearing worth? Mine is worth every penny.

Re: FREEDOM

,

$3grand for the battery holder seems a bit steep. The usual price for

the other BTE's, the Esprit and 3G, is $6,000. As to new products and

delivery dates, well, its safe to say maybe December. " I will believe it

when I see it " .

You can trade anything that has not been opened. Once opened, no trade.

*---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

I put my air conditioner in backwards. It got cold outside. The weatherman

on TV was confused. " It was supposed to be hot today. "

& Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)

Newport, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rclark0276@...

http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ NEW Home Page!

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Patti,many thanks for keeping me up to date. However, at this point, I am

now hearing much better than any time in the past. I hope that the new

" FREEDOM " will be a big improvement. Many thanks!! moses

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Moses, you probably haven't heard from anyone yet because we are all

still waiting to " hear " from Cochlear about what those of us with N24C

and earlier processors will have to do in order to upgrade to the

Freedom Processor. I've been patienly waiting to see what the deal is

too. Sadly, I don't have an unopened processor to turn in; but I'm

still kind of hoping that my BWP can be turned in for at least part of

the cost of the upgrade. Hang in there, I'm sure when Cochlear

announces their plans, it will be all over the forums.

Patti

Surgery Day 11/25/02 (What A Day!)

Hook Up Day BWP 1/2/03 (A Happy Day!)

3G 1/31/03 (An Even Happier Day!)

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Hi Moses!

No thanks needed. I only shared what little info I knew and that

was nothing. Since I have the 3G and the Sprint BWP as a back up, I

can't tell you if the Freedom will be a big improvement over the 3G.

But, I am very excited by the posts of those being hooked up with the

Freedom. When they come out for us N24's perhaps our audies will have

a spare for us to try out before we go with any deal Cochlear offers.

I don't have an unopened processor to trade in so I am very interested

in finding out what the cost will be in order to upgrade. I would love

to say no matter the cost it would be worth it; but my wallet says

otherwise right now. If not right away when the upgrade becomes

available then someday in the future. In any case, I'm very happy

with what my 3G gives me now. So if I have to save and wait a few

then that's the way it is. Patience.

Have a good week!

Patti

Surgery Day 11/25/02 (What A Day!)

Hook Up Day BWP 1/2/03 (A Happy Day!)

3G 1/31/03 (An Even Happier Day!)

" I hope that the new " FREEDOM " will be a big improvement. Many

thanks!! " moses

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Alice,

To go from what I heard in 2002 to what I hear now, I have to agree with you

100%. Hearing is priceless. Being able to hear not only affects us but those

around us. I gladly paid the extra money my insurance didn't cover to be able to

live the way I am living now and not just exsist from day to day the way I was

doing. I was barely holding a job, never volunteering for extra work because it

was too stressful. By the end of 8 hours I felt like I'd work twice that long.

After work I would go home and stay in my " cave " until it was time to go to work

again. Not much of a life, huh?

Well....you should see me now!!!!!!! YES...hearing is priceless.

Sharon Myers

Bilateral CIs and proud of it

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To me - there is no cost to high if it brings me good hearing

especially when insurance picks up the cost for most of us. Hearing

is priceless.

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I am just getting in on the tail end of this conversation. Are you talking

about the part of the Freedom that you pull out and put the batteries in or the

whole bottom part of the processor.?

The reason i am asking is because I dropped my processor and broke the part that

the batteries slide into. She gave me 3 free ones last week.

Brown <abrown6597@...> wrote:

I can tell you that the battery compartment for the freedom whether it be a

BWP or a BTE will cost you about $3000.00. I got activated early in Sept and

the BWP for the Freedom is not out yet, so I got stuck with 2 BTE. The BWP

for the freedom won't be out until sometime in Dec. I asked my audiologist

to call Cochlear and find out the prices for the BWP b/c I thought maybe I

could just purchase one. When I found out the price my jaw dropped and I

then asked her to find out if I could trade one of my BTE in for a BWP ONCE

they do come out in DEC. They said I could do that ONLY if I did not use the

other BTE battery compartment. So I put one of them up and am patiently

waiting for the BWP to come out.

I am not sure how much the processor cost though. I just know how much the

battery compartment for the freedom and the BWP for the freedom will cost.

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

chinamoses@...

Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:50 PM

Subject: Re: FREEDOM

I am glad to see that Irv is doing very well with his new toy. I had my

implant surgery on October 28th, last year.My surgeon Dr. Di Tirro and

audiologist Tanner of Kaiser here in Hollywood, California both did an

outstanding job. I was fitted with Nucleus 24 BWP and G3 processor,which I

use 100% of

the time. The Bwp is stored away. I am wondering,whether its worth while

for

me to swap my Bwp for a new Freedom processor, and how expensive to make the

change. Thank you, Moses Katz

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OK__ I see . It is the whole bottom part. I'll take good care of mine from now

on>. She told me there was a warranty.

Brown <abrown6597@...> wrote:Well if you stop and think about it for

a min it kind of makes sense. If its

6 grand for the whole BTE including the processor and battery holder then

what they are doing is dividing that price in half since it takes BOTH the

processor AND the battery pack for the BTE to work. Yes I think its way to

much to ask for a battery compartment but that's what they are asking. I

really hope they go down on the price.

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 1:53 PM

Subject: Re: FREEDOM

,

$3grand for the battery holder seems a bit steep. The usual price for

the other BTE's, the Esprit and 3G, is $6,000. As to new products and

delivery dates, well, its safe to say maybe December. " I will believe it

when I see it " .

You can trade anything that has not been opened. Once opened, no trade.

*---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

I put my air conditioner in backwards. It got cold outside. The weatherman

on TV was confused. " It was supposed to be hot today. "

& Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)

Newport, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rclark0276@...

http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ NEW Home Page!

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I am talking about the whole entire bottom part that you connect to the

processor that the batteries go in. It has the screen on it with the little

volume control buttons.

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Elsa Nunez

Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:27 PM

Subject: RE: FREEDOM

I am just getting in on the tail end of this conversation. Are you talking

about the part of the Freedom that you pull out and put the batteries in or

the whole bottom part of the processor.?

The reason i am asking is because I dropped my processor and broke the part

that the batteries slide into. She gave me 3 free ones last week.

Brown <abrown6597@...> wrote:

I can tell you that the battery compartment for the freedom whether it be a

BWP or a BTE will cost you about $3000.00. I got activated early in Sept and

the BWP for the Freedom is not out yet, so I got stuck with 2 BTE. The BWP

for the freedom won't be out until sometime in Dec. I asked my audiologist

to call Cochlear and find out the prices for the BWP b/c I thought maybe I

could just purchase one. When I found out the price my jaw dropped and I

then asked her to find out if I could trade one of my BTE in for a BWP ONCE

they do come out in DEC. They said I could do that ONLY if I did not use the

other BTE battery compartment. So I put one of them up and am patiently

waiting for the BWP to come out.

I am not sure how much the processor cost though. I just know how much the

battery compartment for the freedom and the BWP for the freedom will cost.

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

chinamoses@...

Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:50 PM

Subject: Re: FREEDOM

I am glad to see that Irv is doing very well with his new toy. I had my

implant surgery on October 28th, last year.My surgeon Dr. Di Tirro and

audiologist Tanner of Kaiser here in Hollywood, California both did an

outstanding job. I was fitted with Nucleus 24 BWP and G3 processor,which I

use 100% of

the time. The Bwp is stored away. I am wondering,whether its worth while

for

me to swap my Bwp for a new Freedom processor, and how expensive to make the

change. Thank you, Moses Katz

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Catie!

 

We have looked at Bass Pro for a frog tog.  It is made from the same material as the shower vest.  Darrell said he gave the other one to you guys : ) very cool!!   We were able to meet them this last cast.  They are AWESOME!!  We made some little casts to be worn on some dogs that we bought.  They looked cute!  We made one for Dylan, he calls it his maple leaf dog.  hehe!!

 

He gave Eli a really cool quarter, he sadi that thing is already worth 33 cents! Ha!

 

Awe... is much younger than Eli and probably needs his cast changed sooner than E.  I was concerned abou the bruising around his tummy.  Eli cast looks like a shirt that was about 3 sizes too small by the time we got to Salt Lake!   Well maybe the way Will outgrows his cast might be helping him more.  If it stays anchored to the hips, then maybe he is staying straighter!!!  : )  Let's hope!

 

If you went with RED again, Darrell did think that they were stronger casts.  Bill said that is what we are doing next! lol!  I guess I have to teach Eli how to say RED.  ha!!  I'm willing to do a red cast!  Go Cards!!

 

Eli is doing great in his second cast!  We are so glad that after surgery, he just woke up like from a nap.  He got more grumpy after that, because he was ready to take off, and he was a little drunk still!!  He was running at an angle!!  lol  I admire all those kids that just lay in their hospital beds, becasue that so isn't Eli..

 

Well, enjoy having the cast off!!  I think we will think about cutting this next one off ourselves the day or two before the trip. 

 

We might have to go meet for a Cardnials game with and Drue!

Cast Buddies and Brace dude!  

ha!  It would be fun!

 

judy : ) 

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Chad And Catie <chadandcatie@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Judy! I think you are right about the shower vest. We have used it for 4 weeks with great success and it was Dylans old one. He used it until he outgrew it. It came with a very special Canadian coin! We treasure our friends from Canada.  

is 17 months old. We went 10 weeks in the first and had great success. 12 in the second... Too long and lost correction and 8 this time with good straight spine. He loosens at the top with growth and stays anchored at the hips. Our little odd ball! 

You guys are about 3 weeks into this cast? How is it going? We haven't decided color yet. We are thinking maybe Red again to support the cardinals but not sure. We would hate to disappoint Jett with the same color!  

It was great hearing from you. Hugs to Eli! Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 2, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Judy Poland <judypoland5@...> wrote:

 

Catie!!

 

Oh yeah, GO WILL!!

 

I loved hearing about the friend, what an amazing support system for you guys and for Will.  Yeah, i totally agreee with you, maybe we should pay Darrell to reproduce the vests, there are enough cast kids for him to make some money on that!  He showed us how to make one, I think I am goign to give it a try.

 

How old is Will?  Eli is 20 months and we will be leaving this cast on for 11 weeks, it was the same as the first when he was 18 months.  But he had a lot of brusing in his abdomen area.  I was thinking it was from having the cast on tooooo long.  I have heard that the longer you can leave it on the better correction you will get.  I just don't know??

 

What color cast will you guys get next time??

 

judy

ELi 20 months old, 20* in second cast, down from 49*

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Chad And Catie <chadandcatie > wrote:

 

Well this cast got us to 8 weeks. We came out early because Will was showing signs of regression we didn't want to repeat from his last cast. He came out last night and looks good. A few small blisters we are treating in prep for his July 8th cast number 4!

So many blessings from this casting. His spine looked good not curved as it was coming out of cast 3! Dylans family sent us a shower vest that was amazing for waterproofing the cast for shower time. He really should mass produce those things. And we once again got to remove his cast surrounded by family for support and celebration! My sister in laws neighbor has an amazing 3 yo little girl named Jett. She has known since birth and calls him her baby. She saw his cool Red cast last night and said " cool red cast will, what color you gonna get next? " Not why do you have that or oh yuck like we get from other kids. She has never asked why just cool red cast! Loved that!

Well fun July 4th full of splashes and giggles! Then back to Chicago July 8th for cast #4. Sent from my iPhone

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I know christina would be up for a game. We are meeting family from Kansas city in st. Louis july16th. We are looking into tickets to the cards/dodgers game. I will keep you posted!Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 2, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Judy Poland <judypoland5@...> wrote:

Catie!

We have looked at Bass Pro for a frog tog. It is made from the same material as the shower vest. Darrell said he gave the other one to you guys : ) very cool!! We were able to meet them this last cast. They are AWESOME!! We made some little casts to be worn on some dogs that we bought. They looked cute! We made one for Dylan, he calls it his maple leaf dog. hehe!!

He gave Eli a really cool quarter, he sadi that thing is already worth 33 cents! Ha!

Awe... is much younger than Eli and probably needs his cast changed sooner than E. I was concerned abou the bruising around his tummy. Eli cast looks like a shirt that was about 3 sizes too small by the time we got to Salt Lake! Well maybe the way Will outgrows his cast might be helping him more. If it stays anchored to the hips, then maybe he is staying straighter!!! : ) Let's hope!

If you went with RED again, Darrell did think that they were stronger casts. Bill said that is what we are doing next! lol! I guess I have to teach Eli how to say RED. ha!! I'm willing to do a red cast! Go Cards!!

Eli is doing great in his second cast! We are so glad that after surgery, he just woke up like from a nap. He got more grumpy after that, because he was ready to take off, and he was a little drunk still!! He was running at an angle!! lol I admire all those kids that just lay in their hospital beds, becasue that so isn't Eli..

Well, enjoy having the cast off!! I think we will think about cutting this next one off ourselves the day or two before the trip.

We might have to go meet for a Cardnials game with and Drue!

Cast Buddies and Brace dude!

ha! It would be fun!

judy : )

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Chad And Catie <chadandcatie > wrote:

Thanks Judy! I think you are right about the shower vest. We have used it for 4 weeks with great success and it was Dylans old one. He used it until he outgrew it. It came with a very special Canadian coin! We treasure our friends from Canada.

is 17 months old. We went 10 weeks in the first and had great success. 12 in the second... Too long and lost correction and 8 this time with good straight spine. He loosens at the top with growth and stays anchored at the hips. Our little odd ball!

You guys are about 3 weeks into this cast? How is it going? We haven't decided color yet. We are thinking maybe Red again to support the cardinals but not sure. We would hate to disappoint Jett with the same color!

It was great hearing from you. Hugs to Eli! Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 2, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Judy Poland <judypoland5gmail> wrote:

Catie!!

Oh yeah, GO WILL!!

I loved hearing about the friend, what an amazing support system for you guys and for Will. Yeah, i totally agreee with you, maybe we should pay Darrell to reproduce the vests, there are enough cast kids for him to make some money on that! He showed us how to make one, I think I am goign to give it a try.

How old is Will? Eli is 20 months and we will be leaving this cast on for 11 weeks, it was the same as the first when he was 18 months. But he had a lot of brusing in his abdomen area. I was thinking it was from having the cast on tooooo long. I have heard that the longer you can leave it on the better correction you will get. I just don't know??

What color cast will you guys get next time??

judy

ELi 20 months old, 20* in second cast, down from 49*

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Chad And Catie <chadandcatie > wrote:

Well this cast got us to 8 weeks. We came out early because Will was showing signs of regression we didn't want to repeat from his last cast. He came out last night and looks good. A few small blisters we are treating in prep for his July 8th cast number 4!

So many blessings from this casting. His spine looked good not curved as it was coming out of cast 3! Dylans family sent us a shower vest that was amazing for waterproofing the cast for shower time. He really should mass produce those things. And we once again got to remove his cast surrounded by family for support and celebration! My sister in laws neighbor has an amazing 3 yo little girl named Jett. She has known since birth and calls him her baby. She saw his cool Red cast last night and said " cool red cast will, what color you gonna get next?" Not why do you have that or oh yuck like we get from other kids. She has never asked why just cool red cast! Loved that!

Well fun July 4th full of splashes and giggles! Then back to Chicago July 8th for cast #4. Sent from my iPhone

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Yes!! We would totally be in for a CARDS game!! We went to see one last night, we won!! We will be in Cali when Catie-girl is in STL, but we are close enough we can do a trip in a day, so let's put it together girlies!! and JimmyMommy and daddy to Grace, 10, Tryston, 5Drue, 1, out of cast #213* out of cast, down from 26*, started at 40*In first braceSt. Louis Shriners Hospital

Well this cast got us to 8 weeks. We came out early because Will was showing signs of regression we didn't want to repeat from his last cast. He came out last night and looks good. A few small blisters we are treating in prep for his July 8th cast number 4! So many blessings from this casting. His spine looked good not curved as it was coming out of cast 3! Dylans family sent us a shower vest that was amazing for waterproofing the cast for shower time. He really should mass produce those things. And we once again got to remove his cast surrounded by family for support and celebration! My sister in laws neighbor has an amazing 3 yo little girl named Jett. She has known since birth and calls him her baby. She saw his cool Red cast last night and said " cool red cast will, what color you gonna get next?" Not why do you have that or oh yuck like we get from other kids. She has never asked why just cool red cast! Loved that! Well

fun July 4th full of splashes and giggles! Then back to Chicago July 8th for cast #4. Sent from my iPhone

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