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LOL! Definitely, Pam - sometimes I even go without the ibuprofen just to

show my hubby how tough I am! When will I get it? Not soon, apparently!

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>ROFL....And the whole time I always feel so superior to the common people

that have no

>clue, as to how strong I am......am I warped or what ? Slug down a few more

Ibuprofen,

>adjust my knee and wrist braces, and off I go...Sheesh !

>

>Yeh... I was fine.. = :-o

>-Pam-

>

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>> Pam,

>> >>>Why did I think there was value in being miserable and not doing

anything

>> >>>about it?<<<.

>>

>> When you figure out the anser tot his one...will you clue me in? Please

;)

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Patti -

You're all right. I should just have them done. (By the way, your idea about

the hot baths, oh yes, putting my hands and knees in a tub of hot water is

just ecstasy - makes me never want to get out!) Since you all know now that

I am the worst-case-scenario queen, I'll tell you what the worst that could

happen is. I could go get the blood work done, get the results, find out

that yes, as suspected, my FT4 is below normal, but my TSH is still .01. I'm

not on ATDs, so it's not like I could just decrease the dosage of that.

Would a doc really give me synthroid or something for a low FT4 but low TSH?

That's what I don't know. So the worst case would be that yes, I'm hypo

according to T4, but there's nothing that can be done about it right now.

That would definitely suck. In my fantasy world, by waiting another month,

my TSH suddenly shoots up making obvious what the problem is. Not likely to

happen :-( Actually, that's not my worst case, but it's up there. All right,

maybe I'll call the doc's office and see if I can get some answers at least.

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>

>

>> I was feeling really bad. However, I don't know if this qualifies as

really

>> bad. I mean, I could probably tough it out another month like this, it's

not

>> unbearable. I guess I am just afraid that the values haven't changed

enough

>> in 2 months to do anything and it would be a waste. I'm not even sure if

>> there's anything that could be done if the FT4 is low, my TSH is still

>> probably nothing, can they even treat that situation if you're not on

ATDs?

>> I'm just not sure what to do. (Yes, I also have the brain stops working

>> symptom!)

>

>I don't claim to know everything -- not by a long shot. But if there is

>one thing that this " disease " has taught me, it's this:

>

>ALWAYS LISTEN TO YOUR BODY. IT KNOWS WHAT IT'S TALKING ABOUT. So far,

>without exception, every time I've had some kind of change (muscles

>hurting, tremors, eyes hurting.. whatever), it has indicated a major

>change in my levels. Just my opinion here -- I'd go have the labs done.

>What's the worst that happens? Maybe your levels haven't changed, but at

>least your doctor now has some record of the fact that you're not feeling

>good. Document, Document, Document.

>

>--patti :)

>

>*~*~*~*~*

>Patti Spicer patti@...

>

>

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>--Ben lin

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Patti -

You're all right. I should just have them done. (By the way, your idea about

the hot baths, oh yes, putting my hands and knees in a tub of hot water is

just ecstasy - makes me never want to get out!) Since you all know now that

I am the worst-case-scenario queen, I'll tell you what the worst that could

happen is. I could go get the blood work done, get the results, find out

that yes, as suspected, my FT4 is below normal, but my TSH is still .01. I'm

not on ATDs, so it's not like I could just decrease the dosage of that.

Would a doc really give me synthroid or something for a low FT4 but low TSH?

That's what I don't know. So the worst case would be that yes, I'm hypo

according to T4, but there's nothing that can be done about it right now.

That would definitely suck. In my fantasy world, by waiting another month,

my TSH suddenly shoots up making obvious what the problem is. Not likely to

happen :-( Actually, that's not my worst case, but it's up there. All right,

maybe I'll call the doc's office and see if I can get some answers at least.

Re: hypo symptoms - dumb question

>

>

>> I was feeling really bad. However, I don't know if this qualifies as

really

>> bad. I mean, I could probably tough it out another month like this, it's

not

>> unbearable. I guess I am just afraid that the values haven't changed

enough

>> in 2 months to do anything and it would be a waste. I'm not even sure if

>> there's anything that could be done if the FT4 is low, my TSH is still

>> probably nothing, can they even treat that situation if you're not on

ATDs?

>> I'm just not sure what to do. (Yes, I also have the brain stops working

>> symptom!)

>

>I don't claim to know everything -- not by a long shot. But if there is

>one thing that this " disease " has taught me, it's this:

>

>ALWAYS LISTEN TO YOUR BODY. IT KNOWS WHAT IT'S TALKING ABOUT. So far,

>without exception, every time I've had some kind of change (muscles

>hurting, tremors, eyes hurting.. whatever), it has indicated a major

>change in my levels. Just my opinion here -- I'd go have the labs done.

>What's the worst that happens? Maybe your levels haven't changed, but at

>least your doctor now has some record of the fact that you're not feeling

>good. Document, Document, Document.

>

>--patti :)

>

>*~*~*~*~*

>Patti Spicer patti@...

>

>

> " Those who would give up freedom for security deserve neither "

>--Ben lin

>

>http://www.cyphergirl.com - My photography, cookbooks, thyroid info, and

more!

>

>

>

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Patti -

You're all right. I should just have them done. (By the way, your idea about

the hot baths, oh yes, putting my hands and knees in a tub of hot water is

just ecstasy - makes me never want to get out!) Since you all know now that

I am the worst-case-scenario queen, I'll tell you what the worst that could

happen is. I could go get the blood work done, get the results, find out

that yes, as suspected, my FT4 is below normal, but my TSH is still .01. I'm

not on ATDs, so it's not like I could just decrease the dosage of that.

Would a doc really give me synthroid or something for a low FT4 but low TSH?

That's what I don't know. So the worst case would be that yes, I'm hypo

according to T4, but there's nothing that can be done about it right now.

That would definitely suck. In my fantasy world, by waiting another month,

my TSH suddenly shoots up making obvious what the problem is. Not likely to

happen :-( Actually, that's not my worst case, but it's up there. All right,

maybe I'll call the doc's office and see if I can get some answers at least.

Re: hypo symptoms - dumb question

>

>

>> I was feeling really bad. However, I don't know if this qualifies as

really

>> bad. I mean, I could probably tough it out another month like this, it's

not

>> unbearable. I guess I am just afraid that the values haven't changed

enough

>> in 2 months to do anything and it would be a waste. I'm not even sure if

>> there's anything that could be done if the FT4 is low, my TSH is still

>> probably nothing, can they even treat that situation if you're not on

ATDs?

>> I'm just not sure what to do. (Yes, I also have the brain stops working

>> symptom!)

>

>I don't claim to know everything -- not by a long shot. But if there is

>one thing that this " disease " has taught me, it's this:

>

>ALWAYS LISTEN TO YOUR BODY. IT KNOWS WHAT IT'S TALKING ABOUT. So far,

>without exception, every time I've had some kind of change (muscles

>hurting, tremors, eyes hurting.. whatever), it has indicated a major

>change in my levels. Just my opinion here -- I'd go have the labs done.

>What's the worst that happens? Maybe your levels haven't changed, but at

>least your doctor now has some record of the fact that you're not feeling

>good. Document, Document, Document.

>

>--patti :)

>

>*~*~*~*~*

>Patti Spicer patti@...

>

>

> " Those who would give up freedom for security deserve neither "

>--Ben lin

>

>http://www.cyphergirl.com - My photography, cookbooks, thyroid info, and

more!

>

>

>

>-------------------------------------

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intended to replace expert medical care.

>Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

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To 's statement I'd like to add.......

How many days of life do you think we get? Wouldn't it be a shame if we wasted

some of them feeling awful when we could be ok? And what about the good things

we could do or the other people we could connect with meaningfully if we all

felt good?

I just think that many of us are driven by the need to be the best we can.

Probably, in part, how we got here in the first place.

Laurel

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>Pam,

>>>>Why did I think there was value in being miserable and not doing

anything

>>>>about it?<<<.

>

>When you figure out the anser tot his one...will you clue me in? Please ;)

>Jody

>

>

>

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Excellent point Laurel! Amen to this!

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>To 's statement I'd like to add.......

>How many days of life do you think we get? Wouldn't it be a shame if we

wasted some of them feeling awful when we could be ok? And what about the

good things we could do or the other people we could connect with

meaningfully if we all felt good?

>

>I just think that many of us are driven by the need to be the best we can.

Probably, in part, how we got here in the first place.

>Laurel

>

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>

>

>>Pam,

>>>>>Why did I think there was value in being miserable and not doing

>anything

>>>>>about it?<<<.

>>

>>When you figure out the anser tot his one...will you clue me in? Please ;)

>>Jody

>>

>>

>>

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Excellent point Laurel! Amen to this!

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>To 's statement I'd like to add.......

>How many days of life do you think we get? Wouldn't it be a shame if we

wasted some of them feeling awful when we could be ok? And what about the

good things we could do or the other people we could connect with

meaningfully if we all felt good?

>

>I just think that many of us are driven by the need to be the best we can.

Probably, in part, how we got here in the first place.

>Laurel

>

> Re: hypo symptoms - dumb question

>

>

>>Pam,

>>>>>Why did I think there was value in being miserable and not doing

>anything

>>>>>about it?<<<.

>>

>>When you figure out the anser tot his one...will you clue me in? Please ;)

>>Jody

>>

>>

>>

>>_________________________________________________________________

>>Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

>>

>>

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>>Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

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Excellent point Laurel! Amen to this!

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>To 's statement I'd like to add.......

>How many days of life do you think we get? Wouldn't it be a shame if we

wasted some of them feeling awful when we could be ok? And what about the

good things we could do or the other people we could connect with

meaningfully if we all felt good?

>

>I just think that many of us are driven by the need to be the best we can.

Probably, in part, how we got here in the first place.

>Laurel

>

> Re: hypo symptoms - dumb question

>

>

>>Pam,

>>>>>Why did I think there was value in being miserable and not doing

>anything

>>>>>about it?<<<.

>>

>>When you figure out the anser tot his one...will you clue me in? Please ;)

>>Jody

>>

>>

>>

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>>

>>

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Hi ,

>>>y FT4 is below normal, but my TSH is still .01. I'm not on ATDs, so it's

>>>not like I could just decrease the dosage of that. Would a doc really

>>>give me synthroid or something for a low FT4<<<

Actually one of the ab's, either TSI or TPO <sorry can't remember which> can

confuse the pituitary into thinking your body doesn't need anymore hormone.

Do a post for Elaine on this, just make sure her name is in the subject

line. I know she is under the gun on a project for a day or two, but maybe

she can pop in and answer this.

Get the doctor to run the FT 3 and FT4 to get an accurate picture of what is

going on...they don't because they are the newest tests and tend to rely on

that stupid tsh which doesn't say jack when it comes to thyroid...why do a

pituitary test to find out what is going on with the thyroid when there are

tests that can give a much more accurate pictures.

Call him ;-)

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Hi ,

>>>y FT4 is below normal, but my TSH is still .01. I'm not on ATDs, so it's

>>>not like I could just decrease the dosage of that. Would a doc really

>>>give me synthroid or something for a low FT4<<<

Actually one of the ab's, either TSI or TPO <sorry can't remember which> can

confuse the pituitary into thinking your body doesn't need anymore hormone.

Do a post for Elaine on this, just make sure her name is in the subject

line. I know she is under the gun on a project for a day or two, but maybe

she can pop in and answer this.

Get the doctor to run the FT 3 and FT4 to get an accurate picture of what is

going on...they don't because they are the newest tests and tend to rely on

that stupid tsh which doesn't say jack when it comes to thyroid...why do a

pituitary test to find out what is going on with the thyroid when there are

tests that can give a much more accurate pictures.

Call him ;-)

Jody

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Hi ,

>>>y FT4 is below normal, but my TSH is still .01. I'm not on ATDs, so it's

>>>not like I could just decrease the dosage of that. Would a doc really

>>>give me synthroid or something for a low FT4<<<

Actually one of the ab's, either TSI or TPO <sorry can't remember which> can

confuse the pituitary into thinking your body doesn't need anymore hormone.

Do a post for Elaine on this, just make sure her name is in the subject

line. I know she is under the gun on a project for a day or two, but maybe

she can pop in and answer this.

Get the doctor to run the FT 3 and FT4 to get an accurate picture of what is

going on...they don't because they are the newest tests and tend to rely on

that stupid tsh which doesn't say jack when it comes to thyroid...why do a

pituitary test to find out what is going on with the thyroid when there are

tests that can give a much more accurate pictures.

Call him ;-)

Jody

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and... we hate going in for a complaint and having them run all kinds of

invasive tests

just for them to say there is nothing wrong after all. Even though we know

there still is.

and... because most times, we CAN tough it out.

Hope you are feeling better soon ,

Pam B.

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>Pam,

>>>>Why did I think there was value in being miserable and not doing

anything

>>>>about it?<<<.

>

>When you figure out the anser tot his one...will you clue me in? Please ;)

>Jody

>

>

>

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and... we hate going in for a complaint and having them run all kinds of

invasive tests

just for them to say there is nothing wrong after all. Even though we know

there still is.

and... because most times, we CAN tough it out.

Hope you are feeling better soon ,

Pam B.

Re: hypo symptoms - dumb question

>Pam,

>>>>Why did I think there was value in being miserable and not doing

anything

>>>>about it?<<<.

>

>When you figure out the anser tot his one...will you clue me in? Please ;)

>Jody

>

>

>

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and... we hate going in for a complaint and having them run all kinds of

invasive tests

just for them to say there is nothing wrong after all. Even though we know

there still is.

and... because most times, we CAN tough it out.

Hope you are feeling better soon ,

Pam B.

Re: hypo symptoms - dumb question

>Pam,

>>>>Why did I think there was value in being miserable and not doing

anything

>>>>about it?<<<.

>

>When you figure out the anser tot his one...will you clue me in? Please ;)

>Jody

>

>

>

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