Guest guest Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 Probably the easiest and fastest way to respond to this valid " cause of concern " would be to separate the vaccinations to see if the bowel problem continues to be an issue. But the scientific community insists on proof and more proof. And if after a long period of time it is decided there is a definite connection, what do you say to the parents and children with the problem? I also think we spend too much time analyzing the general population and then make comparisons. We need to study the autistic community because they have the problem, not the general population. From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Tina Terri Austin Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:52 PM To: sList Subject: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk art Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: austintandt@... Date: April 17, 2010 7:39:32 AM EDT Subject: A dailymail.co.uk article from c Reply-To: austintandt@... Scientists fear MMR link to autism New American research shows that there could be a link between the controversial MMR triple vaccine and autism and bowel disease in children Full Story: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-388051/Scientists-fear-MMR-link-autism.html 17 April 2010 www.dailymail.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I think many people would agree with you (separate them and see if it continues). The reason they don't is financial. More trips to the doctor's offices, higher cost to separate among others. From: Heifferon Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:24 AM To: sList Subject: RE: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk article from c Probably the easiest and fastest way to respond to this valid "cause of concern" would be to separate the vaccinations to see if the bowel problem continues to be an issue. But the scientific community insists on proof and more proof. And if after a long period of time it is decided there is a definite connection, what do you say to the parents and children with the problem? I also think we spend too much time analyzing the general population and then make comparisons. We need to study the autistic community because they have the problem, not the general population. From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Tina Terri AustinSent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:52 PMTo: sList Subject: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk art Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: austintandtbellsouth (DOT) netDate: April 17, 2010 7:39:32 AM EDTSubject: A dailymail.co.uk article from cReply-To: austintandtbellsouth (DOT) net Scientists fear MMR link to autismNew American research shows that there could be a link between the controversial MMR triple vaccine and autism and bowel disease in childrenFull Story: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-388051/Scientists-fear-MMR-link-autism.html17 April 2010www.dailymail.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I'm sure " costs " are the reason infants are given so many shots in the first place. But you have to ask yourself, at what costs? Since there are so many bowel problems that appear shortly being given the MMR, it is hard for me to swallow the reason that they are merely coincidences. Wakefield's study may have been flawed but that also doesn't mean there is no connection. You can't assume the opposite. From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of austintandt@... Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 6:17 AM To: sList Subject: Re: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk article from c I think many people would agree with you (separate them and see if it continues). The reason they don't is financial. More trips to the doctor's offices, higher cost to separate among others. From: Heifferon Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:24 AM To: sList Subject: RE: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk article from c Probably the easiest and fastest way to respond to this valid " cause of concern " would be to separate the vaccinations to see if the bowel problem continues to be an issue. But the scientific community insists on proof and more proof. And if after a long period of time it is decided there is a definite connection, what do you say to the parents and children with the problem? I also think we spend too much time analyzing the general population and then make comparisons. We need to study the autistic community because they have the problem, not the general population. From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Tina Terri Austin Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:52 PM To: sList Subject: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk art Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: austintandt@... Date: April 17, 2010 7:39:32 AM EDT Subject: A dailymail.co.uk article from c Reply-To: austintandt@... Scientists fear MMR link to autism New American research shows that there could be a link between the controversial MMR triple vaccine and autism and bowel disease in children Full Story: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-388051/Scientists-fear-MMR-link-autism.html 17 April 2010 www.dailymail.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 How many times does it have to be duplicated? From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Tina Terri Austin Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 1:12 PM To: sList Subject: Re: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk article from c Actually, it doesn't appear his case study was flawed. It's been replicted at least 5 times around the world with same outcomes. Sent from my iPhone I'm sure " costs " are the reason infants are given so many shots in the first place. But you have to ask yourself, at what costs? Since there are so many bowel problems that appear shortly being given the MMR, it is hard for me to swallow the reason that they are merely coincidences. Wakefield's study may have been flawed but that also doesn't mean there is no connection. You can't assume the opposite. From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of austintandt@... Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 6:17 AM To: sList Subject: Re: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk article from c I think many people would agree with you (separate them and see if it continues). The reason they don't is financial. More trips to the doctor's offices, higher cost to separate among others. From: Heifferon Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:24 AM To: sList Subject: RE: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk article from c Probably the easiest and fastest way to respond to this valid " cause of concern " would be to separate the vaccinations to see if the bowel problem continues to be an issue. But the scientific community insists on proof and more proof. And if after a long period of time it is decided there is a definite connection, what do you say to the parents and children with the problem? I also think we spend too much time analyzing the general population and then make comparisons. We need to study the autistic community because they have the problem, not the general population. From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Tina Terri Austin Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:52 PM To: sList Subject: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk art Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: austintandt@... Date: April 17, 2010 7:39:32 AM EDT Subject: A dailymail.co.uk article from c Reply-To: austintandt@... Scientists fear MMR link to autism New American research shows that there could be a link between the controversial MMR triple vaccine and autism and bowel disease in children Full Story: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-388051/Scientists-fear-MMR-link-autism.html 17 April 2010 www.dailymail.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 How many times does it have to be duplicated? From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Tina Terri Austin Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 1:12 PM To: sList Subject: Re: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk article from c Actually, it doesn't appear his case study was flawed. It's been replicted at least 5 times around the world with same outcomes. Sent from my iPhone I'm sure " costs " are the reason infants are given so many shots in the first place. But you have to ask yourself, at what costs? Since there are so many bowel problems that appear shortly being given the MMR, it is hard for me to swallow the reason that they are merely coincidences. Wakefield's study may have been flawed but that also doesn't mean there is no connection. You can't assume the opposite. From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of austintandt@... Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 6:17 AM To: sList Subject: Re: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk article from c I think many people would agree with you (separate them and see if it continues). The reason they don't is financial. More trips to the doctor's offices, higher cost to separate among others. From: Heifferon Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:24 AM To: sList Subject: RE: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk article from c Probably the easiest and fastest way to respond to this valid " cause of concern " would be to separate the vaccinations to see if the bowel problem continues to be an issue. But the scientific community insists on proof and more proof. And if after a long period of time it is decided there is a definite connection, what do you say to the parents and children with the problem? I also think we spend too much time analyzing the general population and then make comparisons. We need to study the autistic community because they have the problem, not the general population. From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Tina Terri Austin Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:52 PM To: sList Subject: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk art Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: austintandt@... Date: April 17, 2010 7:39:32 AM EDT Subject: A dailymail.co.uk article from c Reply-To: austintandt@... Scientists fear MMR link to autism New American research shows that there could be a link between the controversial MMR triple vaccine and autism and bowel disease in children Full Story: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-388051/Scientists-fear-MMR-link-autism.html 17 April 2010 www.dailymail.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 How many times does it have to be duplicated? From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Tina Terri Austin Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 1:12 PM To: sList Subject: Re: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk article from c Actually, it doesn't appear his case study was flawed. It's been replicted at least 5 times around the world with same outcomes. Sent from my iPhone I'm sure " costs " are the reason infants are given so many shots in the first place. But you have to ask yourself, at what costs? Since there are so many bowel problems that appear shortly being given the MMR, it is hard for me to swallow the reason that they are merely coincidences. Wakefield's study may have been flawed but that also doesn't mean there is no connection. You can't assume the opposite. From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of austintandt@... Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 6:17 AM To: sList Subject: Re: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk article from c I think many people would agree with you (separate them and see if it continues). The reason they don't is financial. More trips to the doctor's offices, higher cost to separate among others. From: Heifferon Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:24 AM To: sList Subject: RE: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk article from c Probably the easiest and fastest way to respond to this valid " cause of concern " would be to separate the vaccinations to see if the bowel problem continues to be an issue. But the scientific community insists on proof and more proof. And if after a long period of time it is decided there is a definite connection, what do you say to the parents and children with the problem? I also think we spend too much time analyzing the general population and then make comparisons. We need to study the autistic community because they have the problem, not the general population. From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Tina Terri Austin Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:52 PM To: sList Subject: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk art Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: austintandt@... Date: April 17, 2010 7:39:32 AM EDT Subject: A dailymail.co.uk article from c Reply-To: austintandt@... Scientists fear MMR link to autism New American research shows that there could be a link between the controversial MMR triple vaccine and autism and bowel disease in children Full Story: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-388051/Scientists-fear-MMR-link-autism.html 17 April 2010 www.dailymail.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Tina, Since they have not changed the schedule for administering the Hepatitis B shot, it is unlikely they will separate the MMR soon. Expediency trumps valid health concerns. Â From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Tina Terri Austin Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 1:12 PM To: sList Subject: Re: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk article from c Actually, it doesn't appear his case study was flawed. It's been replicted at least 5 times around the world with same outcomes. Sent from my iPhone I'm sure " costs " are the reason infants are given so many shots in the first place. But you have to ask yourself, at what costs? Since there are so many bowel problems that appear shortly being given the MMR, it is hard for me to swallow the reason that they are merely coincidences. Wakefield's study may have been flawed but that also doesn't mean there is no connection. You can't assume the opposite. From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of austintandt@... Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 6:17 AM To: sList Subject: Re: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk article from c I think many people would agree with you (separate them and see if it continues). The reason they don't is financial. More trips to the doctor's offices, higher cost to separate among others. From: Heifferon Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:24 AM To: sList Subject: RE: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk article from c Probably the easiest and fastest way to respond to this valid " cause of concern " would be to separate the vaccinations to see if the bowel problem continues to be an issue. But the scientific community insists on proof and more proof. And if after a long period of time it is decided there is a definite connection, what do you say to the parents and children with the problem? I also think we spend too much time analyzing the general population and then make comparisons. We need to study the autistic community because they have the problem, not the general population. From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Tina Terri Austin Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:52 PM To: sList Subject: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk art Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: austintandt@... Date: April 17, 2010 7:39:32 AM EDT Subject: A dailymail.co.uk article from c Reply-To: austintandt@... Scientists fear MMR link to autism New American research shows that there could be a link between the controversial MMR triple vaccine and autism and bowel disease in children Full Story: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-388051/Scientists-fear-MMR-link-autism.html 17 April 2010 www.dailymail.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Tina, Since they have not changed the schedule for administering the Hepatitis B shot, it is unlikely they will separate the MMR soon. Expediency trumps valid health concerns. Â From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Tina Terri Austin Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 1:12 PM To: sList Subject: Re: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk article from c Actually, it doesn't appear his case study was flawed. It's been replicted at least 5 times around the world with same outcomes. Sent from my iPhone I'm sure " costs " are the reason infants are given so many shots in the first place. But you have to ask yourself, at what costs? Since there are so many bowel problems that appear shortly being given the MMR, it is hard for me to swallow the reason that they are merely coincidences. Wakefield's study may have been flawed but that also doesn't mean there is no connection. You can't assume the opposite. From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of austintandt@... Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 6:17 AM To: sList Subject: Re: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk article from c I think many people would agree with you (separate them and see if it continues). The reason they don't is financial. More trips to the doctor's offices, higher cost to separate among others. From: Heifferon Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:24 AM To: sList Subject: RE: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk article from c Probably the easiest and fastest way to respond to this valid " cause of concern " would be to separate the vaccinations to see if the bowel problem continues to be an issue. But the scientific community insists on proof and more proof. And if after a long period of time it is decided there is a definite connection, what do you say to the parents and children with the problem? I also think we spend too much time analyzing the general population and then make comparisons. We need to study the autistic community because they have the problem, not the general population. From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Tina Terri Austin Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:52 PM To: sList Subject: Fwd: A dailymail.co.uk art Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: austintandt@... Date: April 17, 2010 7:39:32 AM EDT Subject: A dailymail.co.uk article from c Reply-To: austintandt@... Scientists fear MMR link to autism New American research shows that there could be a link between the controversial MMR triple vaccine and autism and bowel disease in children Full Story: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-388051/Scientists-fear-MMR-link-autism.html 17 April 2010 www.dailymail.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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