Guest guest Posted October 29, 2000 Report Share Posted October 29, 2000 Great post Hazel!!! I have had a foot in both the alternative and traditional medical camps for years. My last position was at a hospital pain clinic where I was biofeedback therapist. Teaching people how to relax and control their own physiological responses worked for many chronic pain patients and others with migraine and HBP. My experience is that the rosacea and eye problems are greatly influenced by stress in my personal life. It is easier for me to teach others than to help myself. I find people often go from one extreme to another, the holistic camp puts down the medical camp and vis versa. I believe God has a hand in meds and surgery, as well as herbs. Often a combo of alternative, psychological and traditional medicine can be the answer. I use whatever works, including EFA's, feverfew, diet, low dose antidepressant, and antibiotics when needed. I find medical docs often discount the oils and herbs and the holistic crowd is judgmental about the antibiotics and antidepressant. In general I find well educated chiropractors and DO's more open to both sides of the fence. Hazel, you are right, there is so much we don't know. Kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2000 Report Share Posted October 29, 2000 Great post Hazel!!! I have had a foot in both the alternative and traditional medical camps for years. My last position was at a hospital pain clinic where I was biofeedback therapist. Teaching people how to relax and control their own physiological responses worked for many chronic pain patients and others with migraine and HBP. My experience is that the rosacea and eye problems are greatly influenced by stress in my personal life. It is easier for me to teach others than to help myself. I find people often go from one extreme to another, the holistic camp puts down the medical camp and vis versa. I believe God has a hand in meds and surgery, as well as herbs. Often a combo of alternative, psychological and traditional medicine can be the answer. I use whatever works, including EFA's, feverfew, diet, low dose antidepressant, and antibiotics when needed. I find medical docs often discount the oils and herbs and the holistic crowd is judgmental about the antibiotics and antidepressant. In general I find well educated chiropractors and DO's more open to both sides of the fence. Hazel, you are right, there is so much we don't know. Kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2000 Report Share Posted October 29, 2000 Great post Hazel!!! I have had a foot in both the alternative and traditional medical camps for years. My last position was at a hospital pain clinic where I was biofeedback therapist. Teaching people how to relax and control their own physiological responses worked for many chronic pain patients and others with migraine and HBP. My experience is that the rosacea and eye problems are greatly influenced by stress in my personal life. It is easier for me to teach others than to help myself. I find people often go from one extreme to another, the holistic camp puts down the medical camp and vis versa. I believe God has a hand in meds and surgery, as well as herbs. Often a combo of alternative, psychological and traditional medicine can be the answer. I use whatever works, including EFA's, feverfew, diet, low dose antidepressant, and antibiotics when needed. I find medical docs often discount the oils and herbs and the holistic crowd is judgmental about the antibiotics and antidepressant. In general I find well educated chiropractors and DO's more open to both sides of the fence. Hazel, you are right, there is so much we don't know. Kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2000 Report Share Posted October 29, 2000 Wow, it's been a few days since my post on this subject, and I have been overwhelmed with flames. People on this board have reacted to my post with an anger that caught me totally by surprise -- one lady told me to " bite " her, and another told me to go back to the teen chat. This reaction has made me very sad. I honestly wrote what I did to help people with the same problem I have. I have been obsessed with my complexion for more than two years now, spending at least an hour in front of the mirror everyday. Like Hazel said in her recent post, I noticed that my skin became much better when I paid less attention to it, and it would get bad as soon as I remembered it. My friends and family told me this for a long time, but my realization that I was causing my own problem was something very bitter for me to swallow. Yet that was my first step to getting better. We know that single genes have been proven to definitely cause a small handful of diseases (sickle cell anemia, cystic fibrosis, certain types of breast cancer, maybe a few others.) However, for the vast majority of chronic conditions that Americans face every day (high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, depression, high cholesterol, back pain, etc.) there is no clear cut genetic cause. These conditions are caused by poor diet, exercise, and attitude. cea is in this category -- it is a physical manifestation of the lack of confidence and embarrassment that we feel. When I was 20, I had a terrible problem for a few months with blushing and sensations of heat in my skin. But I forgot about it, and for ten years after that I had no occurrence. A few years ago I fell into the habit of looking at myself in the mirror with anger, and what I saw back was an angry, red-faced person. Go figure. For the last four months I made a commitment to myself to not look at any specific facial attribute, and all of the " symptoms " are gone. They will only come back if I let them. Please go back to my first post (forgive the all caps, sorry!) and read it again with an open mind. It works, I know it from experience. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2000 Report Share Posted October 29, 2000 Wow, it's been a few days since my post on this subject, and I have been overwhelmed with flames. People on this board have reacted to my post with an anger that caught me totally by surprise -- one lady told me to " bite " her, and another told me to go back to the teen chat. This reaction has made me very sad. I honestly wrote what I did to help people with the same problem I have. I have been obsessed with my complexion for more than two years now, spending at least an hour in front of the mirror everyday. Like Hazel said in her recent post, I noticed that my skin became much better when I paid less attention to it, and it would get bad as soon as I remembered it. My friends and family told me this for a long time, but my realization that I was causing my own problem was something very bitter for me to swallow. Yet that was my first step to getting better. We know that single genes have been proven to definitely cause a small handful of diseases (sickle cell anemia, cystic fibrosis, certain types of breast cancer, maybe a few others.) However, for the vast majority of chronic conditions that Americans face every day (high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, depression, high cholesterol, back pain, etc.) there is no clear cut genetic cause. These conditions are caused by poor diet, exercise, and attitude. cea is in this category -- it is a physical manifestation of the lack of confidence and embarrassment that we feel. When I was 20, I had a terrible problem for a few months with blushing and sensations of heat in my skin. But I forgot about it, and for ten years after that I had no occurrence. A few years ago I fell into the habit of looking at myself in the mirror with anger, and what I saw back was an angry, red-faced person. Go figure. For the last four months I made a commitment to myself to not look at any specific facial attribute, and all of the " symptoms " are gone. They will only come back if I let them. Please go back to my first post (forgive the all caps, sorry!) and read it again with an open mind. It works, I know it from experience. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2000 Report Share Posted October 29, 2000 Wow, it's been a few days since my post on this subject, and I have been overwhelmed with flames. People on this board have reacted to my post with an anger that caught me totally by surprise -- one lady told me to " bite " her, and another told me to go back to the teen chat. This reaction has made me very sad. I honestly wrote what I did to help people with the same problem I have. I have been obsessed with my complexion for more than two years now, spending at least an hour in front of the mirror everyday. Like Hazel said in her recent post, I noticed that my skin became much better when I paid less attention to it, and it would get bad as soon as I remembered it. My friends and family told me this for a long time, but my realization that I was causing my own problem was something very bitter for me to swallow. Yet that was my first step to getting better. We know that single genes have been proven to definitely cause a small handful of diseases (sickle cell anemia, cystic fibrosis, certain types of breast cancer, maybe a few others.) However, for the vast majority of chronic conditions that Americans face every day (high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, depression, high cholesterol, back pain, etc.) there is no clear cut genetic cause. These conditions are caused by poor diet, exercise, and attitude. cea is in this category -- it is a physical manifestation of the lack of confidence and embarrassment that we feel. When I was 20, I had a terrible problem for a few months with blushing and sensations of heat in my skin. But I forgot about it, and for ten years after that I had no occurrence. A few years ago I fell into the habit of looking at myself in the mirror with anger, and what I saw back was an angry, red-faced person. Go figure. For the last four months I made a commitment to myself to not look at any specific facial attribute, and all of the " symptoms " are gone. They will only come back if I let them. Please go back to my first post (forgive the all caps, sorry!) and read it again with an open mind. It works, I know it from experience. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2000 Report Share Posted October 29, 2000 I'm still trying to work out if you're serious or not. Ofcourse a persons mental attitude plays a part, but by saying " just forgot about it and it will go away, 100% cure " i think shows a total lack of respect for the people that actually suffer from this condition. It worked for you? Congratulations, BUT everyone is different, don't assume otherwise. Another one of your quotes " NEVER COME ON THIS BOARD AGAIN " that really shows you care...NOT!! I'm entitled to my say, especially on patronising posts like yours. If you really are serious, then i suggest you word your posts a bit better Mark! > Wow, it's been a few days since my post on this subject, and I have > been overwhelmed with flames. People on this board have reacted to > my post with an anger that caught me totally by surprise -- one lady > told me to " bite " her, and another told me to go back to the teen > chat. > > This reaction has made me very sad. I honestly wrote what I did to > help people with the same problem I have. I have been obsessed with > my complexion for more than two years now, spending at least an hour > in front of the mirror everyday. Like Hazel said in her recent post, > I noticed that my skin became much better when I paid less attention > to it, and it would get bad as soon as I remembered it. My friends > and family told me this for a long time, but my realization that I > was causing my own problem was something very bitter for me to > swallow. Yet that was my first step to getting better. > > We know that single genes have been proven to definitely cause a > small handful of diseases (sickle cell anemia, cystic fibrosis, > certain types of breast cancer, maybe a few others.) However, for > the vast majority of chronic conditions that Americans face every day > (high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, depression, high cholesterol, > back pain, etc.) there is no clear cut genetic cause. These > conditions are caused by poor diet, exercise, and attitude. cea > is in this category -- it is a physical manifestation of the lack of > confidence and embarrassment that we feel. When I was 20, I had a > terrible problem for a few months with blushing and sensations of > heat in my skin. But I forgot about it, and for ten years after that > I had no occurrence. A few years ago I fell into the habit of > looking at myself in the mirror with anger, and what I saw back was > an angry, red-faced person. Go figure. For the last four months I > made a commitment to myself to not look at any specific facial > attribute, and all of the " symptoms " are gone. They will only come > back if I let them. > > Please go back to my first post (forgive the all caps, sorry!) and > read it again with an open mind. It works, I know it from experience. > > Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2000 Report Share Posted October 29, 2000 I'm still trying to work out if you're serious or not. Ofcourse a persons mental attitude plays a part, but by saying " just forgot about it and it will go away, 100% cure " i think shows a total lack of respect for the people that actually suffer from this condition. It worked for you? Congratulations, BUT everyone is different, don't assume otherwise. Another one of your quotes " NEVER COME ON THIS BOARD AGAIN " that really shows you care...NOT!! I'm entitled to my say, especially on patronising posts like yours. If you really are serious, then i suggest you word your posts a bit better Mark! > Wow, it's been a few days since my post on this subject, and I have > been overwhelmed with flames. People on this board have reacted to > my post with an anger that caught me totally by surprise -- one lady > told me to " bite " her, and another told me to go back to the teen > chat. > > This reaction has made me very sad. I honestly wrote what I did to > help people with the same problem I have. I have been obsessed with > my complexion for more than two years now, spending at least an hour > in front of the mirror everyday. Like Hazel said in her recent post, > I noticed that my skin became much better when I paid less attention > to it, and it would get bad as soon as I remembered it. My friends > and family told me this for a long time, but my realization that I > was causing my own problem was something very bitter for me to > swallow. Yet that was my first step to getting better. > > We know that single genes have been proven to definitely cause a > small handful of diseases (sickle cell anemia, cystic fibrosis, > certain types of breast cancer, maybe a few others.) However, for > the vast majority of chronic conditions that Americans face every day > (high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, depression, high cholesterol, > back pain, etc.) there is no clear cut genetic cause. These > conditions are caused by poor diet, exercise, and attitude. cea > is in this category -- it is a physical manifestation of the lack of > confidence and embarrassment that we feel. When I was 20, I had a > terrible problem for a few months with blushing and sensations of > heat in my skin. But I forgot about it, and for ten years after that > I had no occurrence. A few years ago I fell into the habit of > looking at myself in the mirror with anger, and what I saw back was > an angry, red-faced person. Go figure. For the last four months I > made a commitment to myself to not look at any specific facial > attribute, and all of the " symptoms " are gone. They will only come > back if I let them. > > Please go back to my first post (forgive the all caps, sorry!) and > read it again with an open mind. It works, I know it from experience. > > Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2000 Report Share Posted October 29, 2000 I'm still trying to work out if you're serious or not. Ofcourse a persons mental attitude plays a part, but by saying " just forgot about it and it will go away, 100% cure " i think shows a total lack of respect for the people that actually suffer from this condition. It worked for you? Congratulations, BUT everyone is different, don't assume otherwise. Another one of your quotes " NEVER COME ON THIS BOARD AGAIN " that really shows you care...NOT!! I'm entitled to my say, especially on patronising posts like yours. If you really are serious, then i suggest you word your posts a bit better Mark! > Wow, it's been a few days since my post on this subject, and I have > been overwhelmed with flames. People on this board have reacted to > my post with an anger that caught me totally by surprise -- one lady > told me to " bite " her, and another told me to go back to the teen > chat. > > This reaction has made me very sad. I honestly wrote what I did to > help people with the same problem I have. I have been obsessed with > my complexion for more than two years now, spending at least an hour > in front of the mirror everyday. Like Hazel said in her recent post, > I noticed that my skin became much better when I paid less attention > to it, and it would get bad as soon as I remembered it. My friends > and family told me this for a long time, but my realization that I > was causing my own problem was something very bitter for me to > swallow. Yet that was my first step to getting better. > > We know that single genes have been proven to definitely cause a > small handful of diseases (sickle cell anemia, cystic fibrosis, > certain types of breast cancer, maybe a few others.) However, for > the vast majority of chronic conditions that Americans face every day > (high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, depression, high cholesterol, > back pain, etc.) there is no clear cut genetic cause. These > conditions are caused by poor diet, exercise, and attitude. cea > is in this category -- it is a physical manifestation of the lack of > confidence and embarrassment that we feel. When I was 20, I had a > terrible problem for a few months with blushing and sensations of > heat in my skin. But I forgot about it, and for ten years after that > I had no occurrence. A few years ago I fell into the habit of > looking at myself in the mirror with anger, and what I saw back was > an angry, red-faced person. Go figure. For the last four months I > made a commitment to myself to not look at any specific facial > attribute, and all of the " symptoms " are gone. They will only come > back if I let them. > > Please go back to my first post (forgive the all caps, sorry!) and > read it again with an open mind. It works, I know it from experience. > > Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2000 Report Share Posted October 29, 2000 I'm really happy that this system works for you. I envy you! My rosacea started at a time when I believe was my happiest. I had two small children and a husband who agreed I should stay home and be with the kids. I can't remember any other time in my life that was more peaceful. Now, almost fourteen years later, I'm having the same outbreaks of pustules, facial swelling and redness. My facial and eye symptoms are the same, no matter what my emotional state. I think you must be one of the rosacea sufferers that can keep it controlled. Some of us however, have more serious or chronic cases. I know you're trying to be helpful and I will take your advice as well intentioned. Hopefully, some others in the group will be helped by your words. Cyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2000 Report Share Posted October 29, 2000 I'm really happy that this system works for you. I envy you! My rosacea started at a time when I believe was my happiest. I had two small children and a husband who agreed I should stay home and be with the kids. I can't remember any other time in my life that was more peaceful. Now, almost fourteen years later, I'm having the same outbreaks of pustules, facial swelling and redness. My facial and eye symptoms are the same, no matter what my emotional state. I think you must be one of the rosacea sufferers that can keep it controlled. Some of us however, have more serious or chronic cases. I know you're trying to be helpful and I will take your advice as well intentioned. Hopefully, some others in the group will be helped by your words. Cyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2000 Report Share Posted October 29, 2000 I'm really happy that this system works for you. I envy you! My rosacea started at a time when I believe was my happiest. I had two small children and a husband who agreed I should stay home and be with the kids. I can't remember any other time in my life that was more peaceful. Now, almost fourteen years later, I'm having the same outbreaks of pustules, facial swelling and redness. My facial and eye symptoms are the same, no matter what my emotional state. I think you must be one of the rosacea sufferers that can keep it controlled. Some of us however, have more serious or chronic cases. I know you're trying to be helpful and I will take your advice as well intentioned. Hopefully, some others in the group will be helped by your words. Cyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2000 Report Share Posted October 29, 2000 <<for the vast majority of chronic conditions that Americans face every day (high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, depression, high cholesterol, back pain, etc.) there is no clear cut genetic cause. These conditions are caused by poor diet, exercise, and attitude. cea is in this category -- it is a physical manifestation of the lack of confidence and embarrassment that we feel.>> Andy, I challenge you to substantiate each of your claims of the " causes " of each of the above conditions, one at a time, with documented statistical evidence. You said " The majority of Americans...' so don't throw us a couple of anecdotes or personal experiences. You must provide hard evidence, from controlled studies, that the MAJORITY of the conditions you described IN AMERICA are the result of the one or more of the causes that you described above. Otherwise you're just blowing hot air. TIA Jim Clary __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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