Guest guest Posted March 21, 2002 Report Share Posted March 21, 2002 Hey Group, The repetition of the word " suicidal " is frightening. I thought that I was the only one who felt this and it was because of going off the latest serotonin reuptake inhibitor. It seems to be true that several of these cause suicidal ideation and I'm wondering now which this is. Is suicidal thought related to the disease, the way we feel or the drugs? And, if any of these are the case, shouldn't we be putting that symptom in CAPITAL LETTERS for everyone to see? Never having seen the face of anyone on this list but Elaine (and that was a long long time ago) I still would feel terrible grief if one of us were lost so senselessly. And I think we may have a mandate to keep reinforcing the existence of this symptom for anyone new who may sign on. You guys are so cool. The message that " you are not alone " is the primo one always. Laurel Re: Success !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hi Pam, >>>Wish I could take total responsibility for being a pro active patient. >>>But I must share my victory with all of you that have taken the time out >>>of you days, to help me get here.<<< You should take responsibility for beCOMING proactive with all that you have accomplished! When you first came here you were so sick and so at the end of your rope, and look where you are today! I agree, the support and knowledge in this group is worth so much to all of us! Together we learn, together we teach, and together we reach successes. If I didn't have this group and the people in it I think I would fall apart some days. >>>I am afraid I was one that had to hit the bottom of the barrel before I >>>really DID something instead of thinking about it. After all, my Top Doc >>>told me diet would have no effect at all. And when I was way too hypo for >>>me... he said I was fine. Thoughts of suicide because of the mental fog >>>and the terrible pain is not FINE in my book. Lab numbers are good to >>>use, but we must find our own set- point. I personally can not function >>>at a FT4 of .78, my personal thing I guess.<<< I had to hit the bottom of the barrel too Pam. Became suicidal after more than 4 years of being left in hypOhell because doctors wouldn't attribute anything to thyroid because all they used was a TSH for 4 years. When I bottomed out, I found my first support board that led me to this one and my learning began...and still continues each and every day. Some of us, like you and me, well we just have to get desparate to get us moving I think ;-) Until I found this group, I lived in the denial that my doctors created and I believed...that will never happen again on anything else in my life that is for sure. Talk to you later, Jody _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2002 Report Share Posted March 21, 2002 Hey Group, The repetition of the word " suicidal " is frightening. I thought that I was the only one who felt this and it was because of going off the latest serotonin reuptake inhibitor. It seems to be true that several of these cause suicidal ideation and I'm wondering now which this is. Is suicidal thought related to the disease, the way we feel or the drugs? And, if any of these are the case, shouldn't we be putting that symptom in CAPITAL LETTERS for everyone to see? Never having seen the face of anyone on this list but Elaine (and that was a long long time ago) I still would feel terrible grief if one of us were lost so senselessly. And I think we may have a mandate to keep reinforcing the existence of this symptom for anyone new who may sign on. You guys are so cool. The message that " you are not alone " is the primo one always. Laurel Re: Success !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hi Pam, >>>Wish I could take total responsibility for being a pro active patient. >>>But I must share my victory with all of you that have taken the time out >>>of you days, to help me get here.<<< You should take responsibility for beCOMING proactive with all that you have accomplished! When you first came here you were so sick and so at the end of your rope, and look where you are today! I agree, the support and knowledge in this group is worth so much to all of us! Together we learn, together we teach, and together we reach successes. If I didn't have this group and the people in it I think I would fall apart some days. >>>I am afraid I was one that had to hit the bottom of the barrel before I >>>really DID something instead of thinking about it. After all, my Top Doc >>>told me diet would have no effect at all. And when I was way too hypo for >>>me... he said I was fine. Thoughts of suicide because of the mental fog >>>and the terrible pain is not FINE in my book. Lab numbers are good to >>>use, but we must find our own set- point. I personally can not function >>>at a FT4 of .78, my personal thing I guess.<<< I had to hit the bottom of the barrel too Pam. Became suicidal after more than 4 years of being left in hypOhell because doctors wouldn't attribute anything to thyroid because all they used was a TSH for 4 years. When I bottomed out, I found my first support board that led me to this one and my learning began...and still continues each and every day. Some of us, like you and me, well we just have to get desparate to get us moving I think ;-) Until I found this group, I lived in the denial that my doctors created and I believed...that will never happen again on anything else in my life that is for sure. Talk to you later, Jody _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2002 Report Share Posted March 21, 2002 Hi Laurel, The only time I have experienced this feeling was when I was in a depression caused my hypO thyroid and left there for over 4 years. I never felt this way when hyper. It is something that does get brought up from time to time. I don't think I have heard of any hypers say this, but I could be wrong. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2002 Report Share Posted March 21, 2002 Hi Laurel, The only time I have experienced this feeling was when I was in a depression caused my hypO thyroid and left there for over 4 years. I never felt this way when hyper. It is something that does get brought up from time to time. I don't think I have heard of any hypers say this, but I could be wrong. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2002 Report Share Posted March 21, 2002 Hi Laurel, The only time I have experienced this feeling was when I was in a depression caused my hypO thyroid and left there for over 4 years. I never felt this way when hyper. It is something that does get brought up from time to time. I don't think I have heard of any hypers say this, but I could be wrong. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2002 Report Share Posted March 21, 2002 I think it feels like the worst PMS that anybody could ever have... !!! - ----Original Message----- From: Laurel Cossitt Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 3:48 PM To: graves_support Subject: Re: Success !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jody, Just speculation here but it would make sense that brain chemistry, effected by hypo, would assume a metabolism not unlike the slowed down version that people with clinical depression experience. Might be different molecules having similar results? Laurel Re: Success !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hi Laurel, The only time I have experienced this feeling was when I was in a depression caused my hypO thyroid and left there for over 4 years. I never felt this way when hyper. It is something that does get brought up from time to time. I don't think I have heard of any hypers say this, but I could be wrong. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com <http://mobile.msn.com> ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2002 Report Share Posted March 21, 2002 Jody, Just speculation here but it would make sense that brain chemistry, effected by hypo, would assume a metabolism not unlike the slowed down version that people with clinical depression experience. Might be different molecules having similar results? Laurel Re: Success !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hi Laurel, The only time I have experienced this feeling was when I was in a depression caused my hypO thyroid and left there for over 4 years. I never felt this way when hyper. It is something that does get brought up from time to time. I don't think I have heard of any hypers say this, but I could be wrong. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2002 Report Share Posted March 21, 2002 Jody, Just speculation here but it would make sense that brain chemistry, effected by hypo, would assume a metabolism not unlike the slowed down version that people with clinical depression experience. Might be different molecules having similar results? Laurel Re: Success !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hi Laurel, The only time I have experienced this feeling was when I was in a depression caused my hypO thyroid and left there for over 4 years. I never felt this way when hyper. It is something that does get brought up from time to time. I don't think I have heard of any hypers say this, but I could be wrong. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2002 Report Share Posted March 21, 2002 Jody, Just speculation here but it would make sense that brain chemistry, effected by hypo, would assume a metabolism not unlike the slowed down version that people with clinical depression experience. Might be different molecules having similar results? Laurel Re: Success !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hi Laurel, The only time I have experienced this feeling was when I was in a depression caused my hypO thyroid and left there for over 4 years. I never felt this way when hyper. It is something that does get brought up from time to time. I don't think I have heard of any hypers say this, but I could be wrong. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2002 Report Share Posted March 21, 2002 Pam, wanted to let you know I am celebrating with you. Debbie R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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