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Hi all!

I'm the relatively new person to this group, with my boyfriend having been

diagnosed in late Jan. with Grave's, and he went through his RAI treatment

just over two weeks ago now. (He's a veteran, so they kind of gave him the

idea that no other option BUT RAI was a " right choice. " )

My question is: So many of you are so against RAI (Jody, you even said you've

regretted it), I am wondering if there are ANY stories of persons having had

RAI that are doing okay ... or even doing WELL? My dearest Joe seems to be

doing great. He is feeling good right now on his meds (Propanolol 20mg and

Propylthiouracil 50 mg each 3x per day) and doesn't appear or seem to be none

the worse for it! he's feeling happy and has been Hyper-symptoms free for

two weeks now! How heavenly for both of us! :)

I would really like to hear from anyone on their personal views about this

and what may lie ahead. The road seems so nice to me now, after having

suffered with him through the extreme hyper period. (Does this really occur

again after treatment?) I'm holding my good thoughts knowing that there may

be a " crash " for him after his thyroid dies off also. I know that it may not

have been the BEST choice (I wasn't with him when he made it and therefore

couldn't research, etc.) but it is the choice he made. I'd love any input.

And Jody, if you would share again (I'm sure you have before I joined the

group) why you are so against this treatment (I think your contributions are

so wonderful so I hold your opinions in the highest regard!) I would be

grateful to know.

Thanks all and hang in there, have a great holiday and smile! :)

Ann in Portland, Oregon :)

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Hi all!

I'm the relatively new person to this group, with my boyfriend having been

diagnosed in late Jan. with Grave's, and he went through his RAI treatment

just over two weeks ago now. (He's a veteran, so they kind of gave him the

idea that no other option BUT RAI was a " right choice. " )

My question is: So many of you are so against RAI (Jody, you even said you've

regretted it), I am wondering if there are ANY stories of persons having had

RAI that are doing okay ... or even doing WELL? My dearest Joe seems to be

doing great. He is feeling good right now on his meds (Propanolol 20mg and

Propylthiouracil 50 mg each 3x per day) and doesn't appear or seem to be none

the worse for it! he's feeling happy and has been Hyper-symptoms free for

two weeks now! How heavenly for both of us! :)

I would really like to hear from anyone on their personal views about this

and what may lie ahead. The road seems so nice to me now, after having

suffered with him through the extreme hyper period. (Does this really occur

again after treatment?) I'm holding my good thoughts knowing that there may

be a " crash " for him after his thyroid dies off also. I know that it may not

have been the BEST choice (I wasn't with him when he made it and therefore

couldn't research, etc.) but it is the choice he made. I'd love any input.

And Jody, if you would share again (I'm sure you have before I joined the

group) why you are so against this treatment (I think your contributions are

so wonderful so I hold your opinions in the highest regard!) I would be

grateful to know.

Thanks all and hang in there, have a great holiday and smile! :)

Ann in Portland, Oregon :)

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Ann, men do seem to do better than women, maybe because the

reproductive and hormonal issues aren't the same. (Apology to men

everywhere - yes, you do have hormones and are entitled to them, as women

are.) Before I found this group I was on another thyroid list

(thyroid@...) which is overwhelmingly made up of hypo

patients, which your boyfriend is almost inevitably going to become. One

active member, at least as of a year and a half ago, is a well regarded

dr. who isn't an endo but treats hypo patients.

Something that your bf seems to have going for him is a qualified doc. I

hear of so many patients who have RAI and are told to come back in 6

weeks and either are excessively hypo or end up in the ER with thyroid

storm first. It looks like your dr. is monitoring him well.

Good luck, Fay

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Ann, men do seem to do better than women, maybe because the

reproductive and hormonal issues aren't the same. (Apology to men

everywhere - yes, you do have hormones and are entitled to them, as women

are.) Before I found this group I was on another thyroid list

(thyroid@...) which is overwhelmingly made up of hypo

patients, which your boyfriend is almost inevitably going to become. One

active member, at least as of a year and a half ago, is a well regarded

dr. who isn't an endo but treats hypo patients.

Something that your bf seems to have going for him is a qualified doc. I

hear of so many patients who have RAI and are told to come back in 6

weeks and either are excessively hypo or end up in the ER with thyroid

storm first. It looks like your dr. is monitoring him well.

Good luck, Fay

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Hi Ann,

I wrote you privately and also sent the extended symptoms list to you

separately so you can print it up and have it handy. I forgot to mention

that if you haven't gotten copies of Joe's labs from the beginning, I would

go back and get copies from time of diagnosis and for future labs, make a

note on them the day he gets labs done as to how he feels that day, when

they come back attach the note to that so you can see the target point he

wants level wise to feel good when he starts his hormone replacement. This

will save lots of time and aggravation down the road.

Take care,

Jody

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Hi Ann,

I wrote you privately and also sent the extended symptoms list to you

separately so you can print it up and have it handy. I forgot to mention

that if you haven't gotten copies of Joe's labs from the beginning, I would

go back and get copies from time of diagnosis and for future labs, make a

note on them the day he gets labs done as to how he feels that day, when

they come back attach the note to that so you can see the target point he

wants level wise to feel good when he starts his hormone replacement. This

will save lots of time and aggravation down the road.

Take care,

Jody

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Hi Ann,

I wrote you privately and also sent the extended symptoms list to you

separately so you can print it up and have it handy. I forgot to mention

that if you haven't gotten copies of Joe's labs from the beginning, I would

go back and get copies from time of diagnosis and for future labs, make a

note on them the day he gets labs done as to how he feels that day, when

they come back attach the note to that so you can see the target point he

wants level wise to feel good when he starts his hormone replacement. This

will save lots of time and aggravation down the road.

Take care,

Jody

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Hi Ann,

ILike Jody, I also had RAI and regret it. While Joe may not have any

problems, he'll most likely become hypothyroid before long. He may experience

severe muscle pain, especially of the large muscles, particularly those of

the back and he may experience depression, weight gain, constipation and

other symptoms of hypothyroidism. In some people, RAI also induces Graves'

ophthalmopathy, the eye disease associated with GD. As long as he knows what

to watch for, he can ask for blood tests before his symptoms become too bad.

For the first few weeks after RAI, patients usually become more hyperthyroid

so it's good that he's on the meds that lower thryoid hormone levels and

reduce symptoms.

Because men have larger, denser thyroid glands, they are usually given a

higher ablative dose than women. Still, they often need a second dose. Joe

may be one of the lucky ones who end up euthyroid, with normal thyroid

hormone levels, for some time. Even people who are still hyper months after

RAI, though, eventually become hypothyroid with more than 90% become

hypothyroid within 10 years after RAI. It's great that you're learning all

about GD so that you can help him with each step as he begins to heal. Good

luck, Elaine

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I'm one of the few that classifies my RAI experience as " good. " I will

give you a warning though.... three weeks after having the RAI, my TSH

dropped to .003 . Make sure his doctor watches him very carefully and

keeps his medications adjusted. Request labs every two weeks, because

there will come a time when he (probably) will suddenly go hypO like I did

at the 12 week mark. I am currently on Synthroid. Had to call my endo's

office this morning and request labs as I'm finding that this past weekend

I was highly emotional and easily agitated, so I think that I need some

Synthroid adjustment.

Overall, I'm feeling good now, and am still happy that I had it done.

Just make SURE that his doctors constantly monitor his levels and keep his

medications well adjusted -- that's the way to avoid problems like

tremors, high heart rate, and other troublesome stuff.

My website (http://www.cyphergirl.com) has my complete story from

diagnosis to treatment, or feel free to email me privately if you wish.

:)

--patti

> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 01:24:06 EST

> From: LlBuddha@...

> Reply-To: graves_support

> To: graves_support

> Subject: Re: RAI Treatment

>

> Hi all!

>

> I'm the relatively new person to this group, with my boyfriend having been

> diagnosed in late Jan. with Grave's, and he went through his RAI treatment

> just over two weeks ago now. (He's a veteran, so they kind of gave him the

> idea that no other option BUT RAI was a " right choice. " )

>

> My question is: So many of you are so against RAI (Jody, you even said you've

> regretted it), I am wondering if there are ANY stories of persons having had

> RAI that are doing okay ... or even doing WELL? My dearest Joe seems to be

> doing great. He is feeling good right now on his meds (Propanolol 20mg and

> Propylthiouracil 50 mg each 3x per day) and doesn't appear or seem to be none

> the worse for it! he's feeling happy and has been Hyper-symptoms free for

> two weeks now! How heavenly for both of us! :)

>

> I would really like to hear from anyone on their personal views about this

> and what may lie ahead. The road seems so nice to me now, after having

> suffered with him through the extreme hyper period. (Does this really occur

> again after treatment?) I'm holding my good thoughts knowing that there may

> be a " crash " for him after his thyroid dies off also. I know that it may not

> have been the BEST choice (I wasn't with him when he made it and therefore

> couldn't research, etc.) but it is the choice he made. I'd love any input.

>

> And Jody, if you would share again (I'm sure you have before I joined the

> group) why you are so against this treatment (I think your contributions are

> so wonderful so I hold your opinions in the highest regard!) I would be

> grateful to know.

>

> Thanks all and hang in there, have a great holiday and smile! :)

>

> Ann in Portland, Oregon :)

>

>

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Hi Anne,

After RAI, your symptoms of hyperthyroidism generally become temporarily

worse because of thyroid hormone and antibodies being released from dying

thyroid cells. You may also experience a sore throat from the radiation

thyroiditis. You will also be at risk for developing thyroid storm for about

6 weeks.

As you become hypothyroid you may experience severe muscle pain, especially

in the large muscles of the back and thighs. You may also experience muscle

swelling since the muscle fibers changes, looking strong although they become

weak (Hoffman's syndrome). Other common symptoms of hypothyroidism include

weight gain, depression, goiter, constipation, dry skin and hair and mental

fog. When you become severely hypothyroid, you can develop myxedema coma

after 6 weeks without thyroid hormone so you need to watch out for symptoms.

RAI also increases your risk of developing Graves' ophthalmopathy and primary

myxedema because of the released thyroid antibodies and immune system

stimulation.

Because of the fluctuating antibody levels, it can take quite some time to

regulate your thyroid hormone levels. Twelve years after RAI, I still have

thyroid antibodies and my thyroid hormone levels are still constantly

changing. My dose of replacement hormone was again changed last week. People

who become hypothyroid are more likely to experience permanent weight gain,

and it's not unusual to gain up to 50 pounds within the first two years.

People who have RAI report continuing Graves' rage which could be attributed

to the antibody levels. Until the immune system dysfunction that causes

Graves' disease is addressed, you're at risk for developing other autoimmune

disorders, particularly fibromyalgia. Other organs may be affected by RAI

causing digestive problems and reproductive problems.

If I were you I would consider staying on Tapazole until you achieve

remission or I'd consider having surgery, that is, a partial thyroidectomy.

Several people on ATDs have mentioned that they didn't begin to get well and

achieve remission until they made lifestyle changes, particularly dietary

interventions and stress reduction. Good luck with whatever option you decide

on, elaine

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Hi Anne,

After RAI, your symptoms of hyperthyroidism generally become temporarily

worse because of thyroid hormone and antibodies being released from dying

thyroid cells. You may also experience a sore throat from the radiation

thyroiditis. You will also be at risk for developing thyroid storm for about

6 weeks.

As you become hypothyroid you may experience severe muscle pain, especially

in the large muscles of the back and thighs. You may also experience muscle

swelling since the muscle fibers changes, looking strong although they become

weak (Hoffman's syndrome). Other common symptoms of hypothyroidism include

weight gain, depression, goiter, constipation, dry skin and hair and mental

fog. When you become severely hypothyroid, you can develop myxedema coma

after 6 weeks without thyroid hormone so you need to watch out for symptoms.

RAI also increases your risk of developing Graves' ophthalmopathy and primary

myxedema because of the released thyroid antibodies and immune system

stimulation.

Because of the fluctuating antibody levels, it can take quite some time to

regulate your thyroid hormone levels. Twelve years after RAI, I still have

thyroid antibodies and my thyroid hormone levels are still constantly

changing. My dose of replacement hormone was again changed last week. People

who become hypothyroid are more likely to experience permanent weight gain,

and it's not unusual to gain up to 50 pounds within the first two years.

People who have RAI report continuing Graves' rage which could be attributed

to the antibody levels. Until the immune system dysfunction that causes

Graves' disease is addressed, you're at risk for developing other autoimmune

disorders, particularly fibromyalgia. Other organs may be affected by RAI

causing digestive problems and reproductive problems.

If I were you I would consider staying on Tapazole until you achieve

remission or I'd consider having surgery, that is, a partial thyroidectomy.

Several people on ATDs have mentioned that they didn't begin to get well and

achieve remission until they made lifestyle changes, particularly dietary

interventions and stress reduction. Good luck with whatever option you decide

on, elaine

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Hi Anne,

After RAI, your symptoms of hyperthyroidism generally become temporarily

worse because of thyroid hormone and antibodies being released from dying

thyroid cells. You may also experience a sore throat from the radiation

thyroiditis. You will also be at risk for developing thyroid storm for about

6 weeks.

As you become hypothyroid you may experience severe muscle pain, especially

in the large muscles of the back and thighs. You may also experience muscle

swelling since the muscle fibers changes, looking strong although they become

weak (Hoffman's syndrome). Other common symptoms of hypothyroidism include

weight gain, depression, goiter, constipation, dry skin and hair and mental

fog. When you become severely hypothyroid, you can develop myxedema coma

after 6 weeks without thyroid hormone so you need to watch out for symptoms.

RAI also increases your risk of developing Graves' ophthalmopathy and primary

myxedema because of the released thyroid antibodies and immune system

stimulation.

Because of the fluctuating antibody levels, it can take quite some time to

regulate your thyroid hormone levels. Twelve years after RAI, I still have

thyroid antibodies and my thyroid hormone levels are still constantly

changing. My dose of replacement hormone was again changed last week. People

who become hypothyroid are more likely to experience permanent weight gain,

and it's not unusual to gain up to 50 pounds within the first two years.

People who have RAI report continuing Graves' rage which could be attributed

to the antibody levels. Until the immune system dysfunction that causes

Graves' disease is addressed, you're at risk for developing other autoimmune

disorders, particularly fibromyalgia. Other organs may be affected by RAI

causing digestive problems and reproductive problems.

If I were you I would consider staying on Tapazole until you achieve

remission or I'd consider having surgery, that is, a partial thyroidectomy.

Several people on ATDs have mentioned that they didn't begin to get well and

achieve remission until they made lifestyle changes, particularly dietary

interventions and stress reduction. Good luck with whatever option you decide

on, elaine

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Hi Anne,

Welcome to this group. Your asking good questions before going through this

process, the best time to ask. Your right about destroying your thyroid.

The thyroid is not what is sick, it is our immune systems that have gone

haywire, the only thing RAI will address is killing the thyroid, it does NOT

address the autoimmune nature of this disease.

I have a couple of posts of my experience since having RAI from the day I

took it and what it has cost me. I am not a proponent of RAI, I believe in

my heart and in my research that RAI is barbaric and should be outlawed.

Many people don't have problems until more than 5 years after having RAI, my

problems started 6 weeks after having it and continue today, 6 years post

RAI...and now, I take hormone replacement because my thyroid can't make

enough, it is still dying but not yet dead completely...AND I am on PTU to

lower my TSI autoantibodies to improve my eyes. RAI often worsens or brings

on the eye disease that goes with graves...the same antibodies that invade

and attack our thyroids also can begin an attack on our eyes. The eye thing

has been horrible and terrifying for me but PTU (one of the ATD's like Tap)

has helped them improve a great deal. Somehow I feel cheated, I put that

poison nuclear waste into my body, and six years later I am back on

atd's...just doesn't seem fair.

It is never to late to change your mind, until you swallow that pill, once

that is done, there is no going back.

If you would like to read my RAI posts, e-mail me at luckystrike@

hotmail.com...no space though. If I don't do it like this, the full address

is removed from the post.

There are many people in this group who have taken atd's long term and are

doing great, with their thyroids in tact and making hormone. I recently met

a woman who has been on them for 20 years! So taking it long term is not a

problem for many people...with RAI you will be trading taking one kind of

pill a day for another kind of pill, the one you have to take after RAI can

and often does take years and years of trying to find the right dose, so we

end up hypo.

Take your time, read, and maybe rethink your decision. If you do go ahead

with it, we are all here to support you...no matter which treatment you

decide.

Take care,

Jody

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Hi Anne,

Welcome to this group. Your asking good questions before going through this

process, the best time to ask. Your right about destroying your thyroid.

The thyroid is not what is sick, it is our immune systems that have gone

haywire, the only thing RAI will address is killing the thyroid, it does NOT

address the autoimmune nature of this disease.

I have a couple of posts of my experience since having RAI from the day I

took it and what it has cost me. I am not a proponent of RAI, I believe in

my heart and in my research that RAI is barbaric and should be outlawed.

Many people don't have problems until more than 5 years after having RAI, my

problems started 6 weeks after having it and continue today, 6 years post

RAI...and now, I take hormone replacement because my thyroid can't make

enough, it is still dying but not yet dead completely...AND I am on PTU to

lower my TSI autoantibodies to improve my eyes. RAI often worsens or brings

on the eye disease that goes with graves...the same antibodies that invade

and attack our thyroids also can begin an attack on our eyes. The eye thing

has been horrible and terrifying for me but PTU (one of the ATD's like Tap)

has helped them improve a great deal. Somehow I feel cheated, I put that

poison nuclear waste into my body, and six years later I am back on

atd's...just doesn't seem fair.

It is never to late to change your mind, until you swallow that pill, once

that is done, there is no going back.

If you would like to read my RAI posts, e-mail me at luckystrike@

hotmail.com...no space though. If I don't do it like this, the full address

is removed from the post.

There are many people in this group who have taken atd's long term and are

doing great, with their thyroids in tact and making hormone. I recently met

a woman who has been on them for 20 years! So taking it long term is not a

problem for many people...with RAI you will be trading taking one kind of

pill a day for another kind of pill, the one you have to take after RAI can

and often does take years and years of trying to find the right dose, so we

end up hypo.

Take your time, read, and maybe rethink your decision. If you do go ahead

with it, we are all here to support you...no matter which treatment you

decide.

Take care,

Jody

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Hi Anne,

Welcome to this group. Your asking good questions before going through this

process, the best time to ask. Your right about destroying your thyroid.

The thyroid is not what is sick, it is our immune systems that have gone

haywire, the only thing RAI will address is killing the thyroid, it does NOT

address the autoimmune nature of this disease.

I have a couple of posts of my experience since having RAI from the day I

took it and what it has cost me. I am not a proponent of RAI, I believe in

my heart and in my research that RAI is barbaric and should be outlawed.

Many people don't have problems until more than 5 years after having RAI, my

problems started 6 weeks after having it and continue today, 6 years post

RAI...and now, I take hormone replacement because my thyroid can't make

enough, it is still dying but not yet dead completely...AND I am on PTU to

lower my TSI autoantibodies to improve my eyes. RAI often worsens or brings

on the eye disease that goes with graves...the same antibodies that invade

and attack our thyroids also can begin an attack on our eyes. The eye thing

has been horrible and terrifying for me but PTU (one of the ATD's like Tap)

has helped them improve a great deal. Somehow I feel cheated, I put that

poison nuclear waste into my body, and six years later I am back on

atd's...just doesn't seem fair.

It is never to late to change your mind, until you swallow that pill, once

that is done, there is no going back.

If you would like to read my RAI posts, e-mail me at luckystrike@

hotmail.com...no space though. If I don't do it like this, the full address

is removed from the post.

There are many people in this group who have taken atd's long term and are

doing great, with their thyroids in tact and making hormone. I recently met

a woman who has been on them for 20 years! So taking it long term is not a

problem for many people...with RAI you will be trading taking one kind of

pill a day for another kind of pill, the one you have to take after RAI can

and often does take years and years of trying to find the right dose, so we

end up hypo.

Take your time, read, and maybe rethink your decision. If you do go ahead

with it, we are all here to support you...no matter which treatment you

decide.

Take care,

Jody

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HI Elaine

If I am reading you right the thyroid antibodies continue to be produced after

RAI. I know from your website that there are different types of antibodies but

could you please clarify which are the ones which could cause GO? Are the ones

which cause other symptoms the same ones as causes GO? Or perhaps it's not so

cut & dried.

I seeing my GP tomorrow to get bloodtest results & my consultant on Monday who

will have antibody tests results we did 5 weeks ago.

I want to have an informed discussion with my consultant about the antibodies -

if there are any- & what will happen to these with RAI.

Thanks Elaine

Re: RAI treatment

Hi Anne,

After RAI, your symptoms of hyperthyroidism generally become temporarily

worse because of thyroid hormone and antibodies being released from dying

thyroid cells. You may also experience a sore throat from the radiation

thyroiditis. You will also be at risk for developing thyroid storm for about

6 weeks.

As you become hypothyroid you may experience severe muscle pain, especially

in the large muscles of the back and thighs. You may also experience muscle

swelling since the muscle fibers changes, looking strong although they become

weak (Hoffman's syndrome). Other common symptoms of hypothyroidism include

weight gain, depression, goiter, constipation, dry skin and hair and mental

fog. When you become severely hypothyroid, you can develop myxedema coma

after 6 weeks without thyroid hormone so you need to watch out for symptoms.

RAI also increases your risk of developing Graves' ophthalmopathy and primary

myxedema because of the released thyroid antibodies and immune system

stimulation.

Because of the fluctuating antibody levels, it can take quite some time to

regulate your thyroid hormone levels. Twelve years after RAI, I still have

thyroid antibodies and my thyroid hormone levels are still constantly

changing. My dose of replacement hormone was again changed last week. People

who become hypothyroid are more likely to experience permanent weight gain,

and it's not unusual to gain up to 50 pounds within the first two years.

People who have RAI report continuing Graves' rage which could be attributed

to the antibody levels. Until the immune system dysfunction that causes

Graves' disease is addressed, you're at risk for developing other autoimmune

disorders, particularly fibromyalgia. Other organs may be affected by RAI

causing digestive problems and reproductive problems.

If I were you I would consider staying on Tapazole until you achieve

remission or I'd consider having surgery, that is, a partial thyroidectomy.

Several people on ATDs have mentioned that they didn't begin to get well and

achieve remission until they made lifestyle changes, particularly dietary

interventions and stress reduction. Good luck with whatever option you decide

on, elaine

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HI Elaine

If I am reading you right the thyroid antibodies continue to be produced after

RAI. I know from your website that there are different types of antibodies but

could you please clarify which are the ones which could cause GO? Are the ones

which cause other symptoms the same ones as causes GO? Or perhaps it's not so

cut & dried.

I seeing my GP tomorrow to get bloodtest results & my consultant on Monday who

will have antibody tests results we did 5 weeks ago.

I want to have an informed discussion with my consultant about the antibodies -

if there are any- & what will happen to these with RAI.

Thanks Elaine

Re: RAI treatment

Hi Anne,

After RAI, your symptoms of hyperthyroidism generally become temporarily

worse because of thyroid hormone and antibodies being released from dying

thyroid cells. You may also experience a sore throat from the radiation

thyroiditis. You will also be at risk for developing thyroid storm for about

6 weeks.

As you become hypothyroid you may experience severe muscle pain, especially

in the large muscles of the back and thighs. You may also experience muscle

swelling since the muscle fibers changes, looking strong although they become

weak (Hoffman's syndrome). Other common symptoms of hypothyroidism include

weight gain, depression, goiter, constipation, dry skin and hair and mental

fog. When you become severely hypothyroid, you can develop myxedema coma

after 6 weeks without thyroid hormone so you need to watch out for symptoms.

RAI also increases your risk of developing Graves' ophthalmopathy and primary

myxedema because of the released thyroid antibodies and immune system

stimulation.

Because of the fluctuating antibody levels, it can take quite some time to

regulate your thyroid hormone levels. Twelve years after RAI, I still have

thyroid antibodies and my thyroid hormone levels are still constantly

changing. My dose of replacement hormone was again changed last week. People

who become hypothyroid are more likely to experience permanent weight gain,

and it's not unusual to gain up to 50 pounds within the first two years.

People who have RAI report continuing Graves' rage which could be attributed

to the antibody levels. Until the immune system dysfunction that causes

Graves' disease is addressed, you're at risk for developing other autoimmune

disorders, particularly fibromyalgia. Other organs may be affected by RAI

causing digestive problems and reproductive problems.

If I were you I would consider staying on Tapazole until you achieve

remission or I'd consider having surgery, that is, a partial thyroidectomy.

Several people on ATDs have mentioned that they didn't begin to get well and

achieve remission until they made lifestyle changes, particularly dietary

interventions and stress reduction. Good luck with whatever option you decide

on, elaine

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Hi ,

Both TSI (thyroid stimulating immunoglobulins, also known as stimulating TSH

receptor antibodies) and blocking TSH receptor antibodies are associated with

GO. TSI are the ones that cause hyperthyroidism as well. However, several

recent studies indicate that people who have both blocking and stimulating

TSH antibodies are much more likely to develop GO, and that blocking TRAb are

the definitive factor. If you go to Pub Med,

http://www4.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/ you can do a search on blocking TSH

receptor antibodies and find several abstracts. One recent one is " Clinical

Significance of Classification of Graves' Disease According to the

Characteristics of TSH Receptor Antibodies, " by WB Kim, HK Chung, YJ Park, DK

Park, HK Lee and BY Cho, from the Korean J International Mediicine, Sept.

2001.

After RAI, thyroid antibody levels increase for two reasons: 1) they are

released from dying thyroid cells; 2) Immune system cells in the thyroid

gland are stimulated by RAI since they perceive it as a foreign threat;

consequently, they step up their production of thyroid antibodies. Even if

someone doesn't initially have blocking TSH receptor antibodies, they can

begin producing them after RAI. In most cases the increase in antibody titers

persists for about a year, but there are reports of high titers persisting

for as long as 10 years. Blocking TSH receptor antibodies can also

spontaneously develop even without RAI (at some point in the future) as part

of the disease process if the immune system is still dysfunctional. Take

care, Elaine

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Hi ,

Both TSI (thyroid stimulating immunoglobulins, also known as stimulating TSH

receptor antibodies) and blocking TSH receptor antibodies are associated with

GO. TSI are the ones that cause hyperthyroidism as well. However, several

recent studies indicate that people who have both blocking and stimulating

TSH antibodies are much more likely to develop GO, and that blocking TRAb are

the definitive factor. If you go to Pub Med,

http://www4.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/ you can do a search on blocking TSH

receptor antibodies and find several abstracts. One recent one is " Clinical

Significance of Classification of Graves' Disease According to the

Characteristics of TSH Receptor Antibodies, " by WB Kim, HK Chung, YJ Park, DK

Park, HK Lee and BY Cho, from the Korean J International Mediicine, Sept.

2001.

After RAI, thyroid antibody levels increase for two reasons: 1) they are

released from dying thyroid cells; 2) Immune system cells in the thyroid

gland are stimulated by RAI since they perceive it as a foreign threat;

consequently, they step up their production of thyroid antibodies. Even if

someone doesn't initially have blocking TSH receptor antibodies, they can

begin producing them after RAI. In most cases the increase in antibody titers

persists for about a year, but there are reports of high titers persisting

for as long as 10 years. Blocking TSH receptor antibodies can also

spontaneously develop even without RAI (at some point in the future) as part

of the disease process if the immune system is still dysfunctional. Take

care, Elaine

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HI Elaine

thanks for that - I will take your message to my consultant on monday if you

don't mind.

Re: RAI treatment

Hi ,

Both TSI (thyroid stimulating immunoglobulins, also known as stimulating TSH

receptor antibodies) and blocking TSH receptor antibodies are associated with

GO. TSI are the ones that cause hyperthyroidism as well. However, several

recent studies indicate that people who have both blocking and stimulating

TSH antibodies are much more likely to develop GO, and that blocking TRAb are

the definitive factor. If you go to Pub Med,

http://www4.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/ you can do a search on blocking TSH

receptor antibodies and find several abstracts. One recent one is " Clinical

Significance of Classification of Graves' Disease According to the

Characteristics of TSH Receptor Antibodies, " by WB Kim, HK Chung, YJ Park, DK

Park, HK Lee and BY Cho, from the Korean J International Mediicine, Sept.

2001.

After RAI, thyroid antibody levels increase for two reasons: 1) they are

released from dying thyroid cells; 2) Immune system cells in the thyroid

gland are stimulated by RAI since they perceive it as a foreign threat;

consequently, they step up their production of thyroid antibodies. Even if

someone doesn't initially have blocking TSH receptor antibodies, they can

begin producing them after RAI. In most cases the increase in antibody titers

persists for about a year, but there are reports of high titers persisting

for as long as 10 years. Blocking TSH receptor antibodies can also

spontaneously develop even without RAI (at some point in the future) as part

of the disease process if the immune system is still dysfunctional. Take

care, Elaine

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Hi ,

If you have time, go to Pub Med too and try to print out some abstracts. then

your doc can get copies of the entire articles if they're interested. Good

luck with your appointment, elaine

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If you have time, go to Pub Med too and try to print out some abstracts. then

your doc can get copies of the entire articles if they're interested. Good

luck with your appointment, elaine

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Hi ,

If you have time, go to Pub Med too and try to print out some abstracts. then

your doc can get copies of the entire articles if they're interested. Good

luck with your appointment, elaine

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