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Hi Em. You know your sister better than I do, but I'm not sure I would read

too much into this. Maybe she just thinks your nada looks sad? Maybe she

finds nursing homes depressing places (I think they are and we do most of

our clinicals at them for nursing school). I don't know. Maybe she's having

some fleas of her own and feeling guilty that your nada is in a home. But,

No matter what, she chose to not help with difficult situations and frankly,

I think that a nursing home really is the best place for her. They can give

her the care she needs there. It shouldn't be up to you or your sister to

do that unless you absolutely wanted to. Keep in mind even with families

that do rearrange their lives to take care of an elderly parent it is often

very exhausting & draining.

I would try not to read too much into it. Even if she is being a flying

monkey, which would be hard since nada couldn't put her up to it if she

doesn't even know her anymore... well, it's her issue, not yours m'dear!

Like I said, I could be completely wrong but that's just my take on it. If

it is her trying to guilt you into something, well, doesn't mean that you

have to at all. You're a grown woman who has the right to make her own

decisions =) And if she is trying to get you to do something she wants

done, bounce that responsibility back at her and tell her if she wants it

done, she should do it.

Hang in there. I know with situations like this it can get to us. I had my

own version of this feeling last week when my step sister contacted me out

of the blue before my surgery.

Mia

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Thanks for your support, Mia. I love this forum!

Truthfully I read what she puts on FB and I think she is as crazy as nada. Her

husband is likely bpd himself, too. And her comment was especially irritating

because the pictures she saw were taken one whole year before the words Nursing

Home were even spoken.

I've been in an elder care group for several years and also have a group of

friends all struggling with the same issues, and one thing we all share is the

struggle of finding the best way to handle an aging, feeble parent in desperate

need of care - some much beloved and others not so much. We have all taken

slightly different paths, depending on our personal situations.

Anyway, my point is - I told them this and I suspect if they knew where she

lived they'd be sending out a lynch mob, lol!

It was the words abused and abandoned that set them off - they know what I have

been through with her and what I am still going through.

Maybe I should call Sis next time I get the " gotta rush off to the ER " call and

tell her I can't make it, can she? Muhahahaha.

Or forward the " care-planning conference " notice to her. Hmmm. Medicare

paperwork? Should I box it up and UPS it? Ask her if she can handle the vacant

condo rental issue? Gee, I could send her a list.

I am just grouchy right now.

Em

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> Hi Em. You know your sister better than I do, but I'm not sure I would read

> too much into this. Maybe she just thinks your nada looks sad? Maybe she

> finds nursing homes depressing places (I think they are and we do most of

> our clinicals at them for nursing school). I don't know. Maybe she's having

> some fleas of her own and feeling guilty that your nada is in a home. But,

> No matter what, she chose to not help with difficult situations and frankly,

> I think that a nursing home really is the best place for her. They can give

> her the care she needs there. It shouldn't be up to you or your sister to

> do that unless you absolutely wanted to. Keep in mind even with families

> that do rearrange their lives to take care of an elderly parent it is often

> very exhausting & draining.

>

> I would try not to read too much into it. Even if she is being a flying

> monkey, which would be hard since nada couldn't put her up to it if she

> doesn't even know her anymore... well, it's her issue, not yours m'dear!

>

> Like I said, I could be completely wrong but that's just my take on it. If

> it is her trying to guilt you into something, well, doesn't mean that you

> have to at all. You're a grown woman who has the right to make her own

> decisions =) And if she is trying to get you to do something she wants

> done, bounce that responsibility back at her and tell her if she wants it

> done, she should do it.

>

> Hang in there. I know with situations like this it can get to us. I had my

> own version of this feeling last week when my step sister contacted me out

> of the blue before my surgery.

>

> Mia

>

>

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Thanks for your support, Mia. I love this forum!

Truthfully I read what she puts on FB and I think she is as crazy as nada. Her

husband is likely bpd himself, too. And her comment was especially irritating

because the pictures she saw were taken one whole year before the words Nursing

Home were even spoken.

I've been in an elder care group for several years and also have a group of

friends all struggling with the same issues, and one thing we all share is the

struggle of finding the best way to handle an aging, feeble parent in desperate

need of care - some much beloved and others not so much. We have all taken

slightly different paths, depending on our personal situations.

Anyway, my point is - I told them this and I suspect if they knew where she

lived they'd be sending out a lynch mob, lol!

It was the words abused and abandoned that set them off - they know what I have

been through with her and what I am still going through.

Maybe I should call Sis next time I get the " gotta rush off to the ER " call and

tell her I can't make it, can she? Muhahahaha.

Or forward the " care-planning conference " notice to her. Hmmm. Medicare

paperwork? Should I box it up and UPS it? Ask her if she can handle the vacant

condo rental issue? Gee, I could send her a list.

I am just grouchy right now.

Em

Sent from my blueberry.

> Hi Em. You know your sister better than I do, but I'm not sure I would read

> too much into this. Maybe she just thinks your nada looks sad? Maybe she

> finds nursing homes depressing places (I think they are and we do most of

> our clinicals at them for nursing school). I don't know. Maybe she's having

> some fleas of her own and feeling guilty that your nada is in a home. But,

> No matter what, she chose to not help with difficult situations and frankly,

> I think that a nursing home really is the best place for her. They can give

> her the care she needs there. It shouldn't be up to you or your sister to

> do that unless you absolutely wanted to. Keep in mind even with families

> that do rearrange their lives to take care of an elderly parent it is often

> very exhausting & draining.

>

> I would try not to read too much into it. Even if she is being a flying

> monkey, which would be hard since nada couldn't put her up to it if she

> doesn't even know her anymore... well, it's her issue, not yours m'dear!

>

> Like I said, I could be completely wrong but that's just my take on it. If

> it is her trying to guilt you into something, well, doesn't mean that you

> have to at all. You're a grown woman who has the right to make her own

> decisions =) And if she is trying to get you to do something she wants

> done, bounce that responsibility back at her and tell her if she wants it

> done, she should do it.

>

> Hang in there. I know with situations like this it can get to us. I had my

> own version of this feeling last week when my step sister contacted me out

> of the blue before my surgery.

>

> Mia

>

>

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Thanks for your support, Mia. I love this forum!

Truthfully I read what she puts on FB and I think she is as crazy as nada. Her

husband is likely bpd himself, too. And her comment was especially irritating

because the pictures she saw were taken one whole year before the words Nursing

Home were even spoken.

I've been in an elder care group for several years and also have a group of

friends all struggling with the same issues, and one thing we all share is the

struggle of finding the best way to handle an aging, feeble parent in desperate

need of care - some much beloved and others not so much. We have all taken

slightly different paths, depending on our personal situations.

Anyway, my point is - I told them this and I suspect if they knew where she

lived they'd be sending out a lynch mob, lol!

It was the words abused and abandoned that set them off - they know what I have

been through with her and what I am still going through.

Maybe I should call Sis next time I get the " gotta rush off to the ER " call and

tell her I can't make it, can she? Muhahahaha.

Or forward the " care-planning conference " notice to her. Hmmm. Medicare

paperwork? Should I box it up and UPS it? Ask her if she can handle the vacant

condo rental issue? Gee, I could send her a list.

I am just grouchy right now.

Em

Sent from my blueberry.

> Hi Em. You know your sister better than I do, but I'm not sure I would read

> too much into this. Maybe she just thinks your nada looks sad? Maybe she

> finds nursing homes depressing places (I think they are and we do most of

> our clinicals at them for nursing school). I don't know. Maybe she's having

> some fleas of her own and feeling guilty that your nada is in a home. But,

> No matter what, she chose to not help with difficult situations and frankly,

> I think that a nursing home really is the best place for her. They can give

> her the care she needs there. It shouldn't be up to you or your sister to

> do that unless you absolutely wanted to. Keep in mind even with families

> that do rearrange their lives to take care of an elderly parent it is often

> very exhausting & draining.

>

> I would try not to read too much into it. Even if she is being a flying

> monkey, which would be hard since nada couldn't put her up to it if she

> doesn't even know her anymore... well, it's her issue, not yours m'dear!

>

> Like I said, I could be completely wrong but that's just my take on it. If

> it is her trying to guilt you into something, well, doesn't mean that you

> have to at all. You're a grown woman who has the right to make her own

> decisions =) And if she is trying to get you to do something she wants

> done, bounce that responsibility back at her and tell her if she wants it

> done, she should do it.

>

> Hang in there. I know with situations like this it can get to us. I had my

> own version of this feeling last week when my step sister contacted me out

> of the blue before my surgery.

>

> Mia

>

>

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Its hard to say. Could be. These are incredibly difficult and heartbreaking

decisions to make RE an elderly parent who needs assisted living care or nursing

care, and even when the parent has been abusive to you your whole life,

undeserved, misplaced and inappropriate guilt feelings can still be lurking

around to compound the difficulty.

Even though I know that I personally can't provide assisted living care for my

nada, knowing how much she hates the idea of needing to go into a nursing home

will make the decision full of anguish for me and my Sister.

I am so deeply grateful that my Sister and I are on the same page RE our nada.

We are a team. It must be so incredibly difficult when siblings have been

driven apart from each other by the toxic foo dynamics; even more so when one or

more of the sibs also has personality disorder and is continuing to demonstrate

the abusive, negligent or manipulative, competitive, envious bpd behaviors of

the parents. Its just tragic.

Your sister could just be completely clueless and in denial; merely thoughtless

instead of actively hostile and malicious.

Only you can make that determination.

-Annie

>

> And in other matters...

> My sister who lives in another state saw pictures on Facebook of Nada taken

two years ago at our house.

> Nada has had for many years what DD and DH and I call Crazy Eyes - she had

this weird, almost possessed expression. As the dementia worsened her crazy eyes

got worse. Have you ever been in a nursing home with lots of elderly dementia

patients? If you have, you've seen the vacant look in their eyes.

> Nada is in a nursing home because the alternative would be 24/7 care in my

home and it would destroy me. 'Nuff said.

> Sister lives 1500 miles away, doesn't visit, acknowledge that " Mother " is

anything but perfect and does nothing to help with a difficult situation.

> So here is what she messages me on seeing pictures of demented nada at our

house on the last Easter before she went Into the nursing home:

>

> " her forlorn look reminds me of the commercials about abandoned and abused

dogs and cats...same kind of eye expression ...it is heartbreaking. "

>

> Her message was all about how she had tried to call nada but the nurses said

she was in the dining room or sleeping, so she was clearly thinking about the

nursing home when she wrote this.

> She went on to say she sent a card - little does she know that nada didn't

know who the Hell she was when I read it to her, because nada no longer

remembers any relatives but me. She can't even figure out who my daughter is.

>

> Fellow KOs, I can't make up my mind whether I should be furious that she is

implying I am abusing nada by abandoning her to a home or pitying that she is so

clueless about what really went on in her childhood.

>

> Heck, maybe this is just another flying monkey story.

>

> Em

>

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