Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 " Explain why HPD officers have been reassigned for 'not meeting ticket writing production goals'? " Because they aren't generating enough revenue. Again, revenues are plowed back into municipal services. Profits are divided up among investors. The HPD priority isn't making profits, its public safety, despite the ticket quotas, which is more about ensuring that the officers are " working " than generating revenue for the city. Otherwise, they'd have every cop on the payroll out writing tickets. " Explain why the City of Houston auctioned off sections of freeway (for very big bucks)to wrecker services, inducing them to tow people not impeding traffic? This is another hidden tax, and it effects the less affluent more than those better off. " To generate revenue and improve traffic flow. " If the run record is clearer, so that some high school graduate in CMS can understand and not reject it, causing an appeal, what is wrong with that? " Nothing at all. It improves the collection rates for billing that generates more revenue for the service. Its something that any responsible municipal service should do. I didn't say it was bad. The point was to contrast it with a system that isn't concerned with anything except profits. Improving your billing is good. Firing all your long term medics to hire new ones that cost you less and are easily intimidated is bad. One was a municipal system who's main goal was public service, the other was a private service who's main focus was profits. magnetass sends Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems > > > -- " Brown " wrote: > " Generating revenue and generating profit are 2 different things. " > > Explain why HPD officers have been reassigned for 'not meeting ticket > writing production goals'? > > Explain why the City of Houston auctioned off sections of freeway (for > very big bucks)to wrecker services, inducing them to tow people not > impeding traffic? This is another hidden tax, and it effects the less > affluent more than those better off. > > > " I have recieved instruction as to how to write better, more detailed run > reports in order to increase revenue. " > > If the run record is clearer, so that some high school graduate in CMS can > understand and not reject it, causing an appeal, what is wrong with that? > > > " I have been told that a long-term employee is a drain on a company > because they cost more than a new-hire, in order to increase profits. " > > I agree, that is wrong, short sighted, hurts morale and in the long run, > inefficient. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 " Explain why HPD officers have been reassigned for 'not meeting ticket writing production goals'? " Because they aren't generating enough revenue. Again, revenues are plowed back into municipal services. Profits are divided up among investors. The HPD priority isn't making profits, its public safety, despite the ticket quotas, which is more about ensuring that the officers are " working " than generating revenue for the city. Otherwise, they'd have every cop on the payroll out writing tickets. " Explain why the City of Houston auctioned off sections of freeway (for very big bucks)to wrecker services, inducing them to tow people not impeding traffic? This is another hidden tax, and it effects the less affluent more than those better off. " To generate revenue and improve traffic flow. " If the run record is clearer, so that some high school graduate in CMS can understand and not reject it, causing an appeal, what is wrong with that? " Nothing at all. It improves the collection rates for billing that generates more revenue for the service. Its something that any responsible municipal service should do. I didn't say it was bad. The point was to contrast it with a system that isn't concerned with anything except profits. Improving your billing is good. Firing all your long term medics to hire new ones that cost you less and are easily intimidated is bad. One was a municipal system who's main goal was public service, the other was a private service who's main focus was profits. magnetass sends Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems > > > -- " Brown " wrote: > " Generating revenue and generating profit are 2 different things. " > > Explain why HPD officers have been reassigned for 'not meeting ticket > writing production goals'? > > Explain why the City of Houston auctioned off sections of freeway (for > very big bucks)to wrecker services, inducing them to tow people not > impeding traffic? This is another hidden tax, and it effects the less > affluent more than those better off. > > > " I have recieved instruction as to how to write better, more detailed run > reports in order to increase revenue. " > > If the run record is clearer, so that some high school graduate in CMS can > understand and not reject it, causing an appeal, what is wrong with that? > > > " I have been told that a long-term employee is a drain on a company > because they cost more than a new-hire, in order to increase profits. " > > I agree, that is wrong, short sighted, hurts morale and in the long run, > inefficient. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 In a message dated 1/17/2005 12:37:48 A.M. Central Standard Time, THEDUDMAN@... writes: Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily concerned and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who is very soon to be searching for a new job. Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax payers. Dudley You are looking at one. I am not about to be replaced real soon either unless I suddenly Keel over dead. Everyone thinks taxpayers are at the heals of anyone that doesn't make a profit. The taxpayers of my town are proud to have the great service at a reasonable cost. They know the have a top service and want to keep it. I will go into further detail if you are willing to legitimately listen and will email me off line. Andy Foote, Manager EMS City of Beaumont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses. My tax dollars help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs " in the red. " They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I don't think any citizen here expects them to make a profit and return money to the city/county. Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major metropolitan area. Mike > > Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily concerned and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who is very soon to be searching for a new job. > > Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax payers. > > Dudley > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses. My tax dollars help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs " in the red. " They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I don't think any citizen here expects them to make a profit and return money to the city/county. Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major metropolitan area. Mike > > Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily concerned and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who is very soon to be searching for a new job. > > Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax payers. > > Dudley > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses. My tax dollars help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs " in the red. " They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I don't think any citizen here expects them to make a profit and return money to the city/county. Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major metropolitan area. Mike > > Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily concerned and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who is very soon to be searching for a new job. > > Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax payers. > > Dudley > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 Austin and San change the lead each year as the most expensive EMS systems per capita in the United States. BEB E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP Midlothian, TX Don't miss EMStock 2005 (http://www.EMStock.com) Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses. My tax dollars help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs " in the red. " They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I don't think any citizen here expects them to make a profit and return money to the city/county. Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major metropolitan area. Mike On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:36:53 -0500, THEDUDMAN@... wrote: > > Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily concerned and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who is very soon to be searching for a new job. > > Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax payers. > > Dudley > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 Austin and San change the lead each year as the most expensive EMS systems per capita in the United States. BEB E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP Midlothian, TX Don't miss EMStock 2005 (http://www.EMStock.com) Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses. My tax dollars help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs " in the red. " They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I don't think any citizen here expects them to make a profit and return money to the city/county. Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major metropolitan area. Mike On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:36:53 -0500, THEDUDMAN@... wrote: > > Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily concerned and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who is very soon to be searching for a new job. > > Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax payers. > > Dudley > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 Austin and San change the lead each year as the most expensive EMS systems per capita in the United States. BEB E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP Midlothian, TX Don't miss EMStock 2005 (http://www.EMStock.com) Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses. My tax dollars help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs " in the red. " They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I don't think any citizen here expects them to make a profit and return money to the city/county. Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major metropolitan area. Mike On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:36:53 -0500, THEDUDMAN@... wrote: > > Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily concerned and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who is very soon to be searching for a new job. > > Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax payers. > > Dudley > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 That's because Medicaid only pays approximately 30% of what it cost to provide the service and you can't take the Star Card for payment! BH Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses. My tax dollars help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs " in the red. " They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I don't think any citizen here expects them to make a profit and return money to the city/county. Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major metropolitan area. Mike On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:36:53 -0500, THEDUDMAN@... wrote: > > Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily > concerned and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who is very soon to be searching for a new job. > > Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax > payers. > > Dudley > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 That's because Medicaid only pays approximately 30% of what it cost to provide the service and you can't take the Star Card for payment! BH Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses. My tax dollars help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs " in the red. " They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I don't think any citizen here expects them to make a profit and return money to the city/county. Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major metropolitan area. Mike On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:36:53 -0500, THEDUDMAN@... wrote: > > Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily > concerned and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who is very soon to be searching for a new job. > > Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax > payers. > > Dudley > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 That's because Medicaid only pays approximately 30% of what it cost to provide the service and you can't take the Star Card for payment! BH Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses. My tax dollars help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs " in the red. " They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I don't think any citizen here expects them to make a profit and return money to the city/county. Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major metropolitan area. Mike On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:36:53 -0500, THEDUDMAN@... wrote: > > Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily > concerned and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who is very soon to be searching for a new job. > > Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax > payers. > > Dudley > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 , Can the effectiveness of either system be evaluated? What does the expenditure buy the consumer? How do we know whether or not a system is effective? If I knew the answer to that, I'd be rich. Anybody here rich? GG > > Austin and San change the lead each year as the most expensive EMS > systems per capita in the United States. > > BEB > > > E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP > Midlothian, TX > > Don't miss EMStock 2005 (http://www.EMStock.com) > > Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems > > > In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses. My tax dollars > help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs " in the red. " > They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I don't think any > citizen here expects them to make a profit and return money to the > city/county. > > Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major > metropolitan area. > > Mike > > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:36:53 -0500, THEDUDMAN@... > wrote: > > > > Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily concerned > and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds > expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who > is very soon to be searching for a new job. > > > > Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax payers. > > > > Dudley > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 , Can the effectiveness of either system be evaluated? What does the expenditure buy the consumer? How do we know whether or not a system is effective? If I knew the answer to that, I'd be rich. Anybody here rich? GG > > Austin and San change the lead each year as the most expensive EMS > systems per capita in the United States. > > BEB > > > E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP > Midlothian, TX > > Don't miss EMStock 2005 (http://www.EMStock.com) > > Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems > > > In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses. My tax dollars > help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs " in the red. " > They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I don't think any > citizen here expects them to make a profit and return money to the > city/county. > > Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major > metropolitan area. > > Mike > > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:36:53 -0500, THEDUDMAN@... > wrote: > > > > Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily concerned > and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds > expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who > is very soon to be searching for a new job. > > > > Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax payers. > > > > Dudley > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 Yep, and Austin EMS enjoys a very, very high satisfaction and confidence rating from those it covers. In my opinion, it's money well spent. Mike On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:23:10 -0600, Bledsoe wrote: > > Austin and San change the lead each year as the most expensive EMS > systems per capita in the United States. > > BEB > > E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP > Midlothian, TX > > Don't miss EMStock 2005 (http://www.EMStock.com) > > Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems > > In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses. My tax dollars > help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs " in the red. " > They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I don't think any > citizen here expects them to make a profit and return money to the > city/county. > > Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major > metropolitan area. > > Mike > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:36:53 -0500, THEDUDMAN@... > wrote: > > > > Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily concerned > and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds > expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who > is very soon to be searching for a new job. > > > > Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax payers. > > > > Dudley > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 Yep, and Austin EMS enjoys a very, very high satisfaction and confidence rating from those it covers. In my opinion, it's money well spent. Mike On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:23:10 -0600, Bledsoe wrote: > > Austin and San change the lead each year as the most expensive EMS > systems per capita in the United States. > > BEB > > E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP > Midlothian, TX > > Don't miss EMStock 2005 (http://www.EMStock.com) > > Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems > > In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses. My tax dollars > help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs " in the red. " > They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I don't think any > citizen here expects them to make a profit and return money to the > city/county. > > Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major > metropolitan area. > > Mike > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:36:53 -0500, THEDUDMAN@... > wrote: > > > > Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily concerned > and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds > expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who > is very soon to be searching for a new job. > > > > Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax payers. > > > > Dudley > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 " I have recieved instruction as to how to write better, more detailed run reports in order to increase revenue. I have been told that a long-term employee is a drain on a company because they cost more than a new-hire, in order to increase profits. " Were these statements made by a municipal EMS manager? Because EVERY EMS manager should be doing #1 so that tax payer subsidies are as low as possible...otherwise it is a misuse of public funds... Statement #2 is seen in the paper everyday for FD and PD layoffs in cities all over the nation.... What statements do the private providers make that are different? Dudley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 " I have recieved instruction as to how to write better, more detailed run reports in order to increase revenue. I have been told that a long-term employee is a drain on a company because they cost more than a new-hire, in order to increase profits. " Were these statements made by a municipal EMS manager? Because EVERY EMS manager should be doing #1 so that tax payer subsidies are as low as possible...otherwise it is a misuse of public funds... Statement #2 is seen in the paper everyday for FD and PD layoffs in cities all over the nation.... What statements do the private providers make that are different? Dudley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 When does SAFD/EMS or Austin EMS or any other municpal agency know when to add peak units or to add additional 24 hour units??? Just when they wake up and decide the public needs more service from their agency? Know...it is the exact same principles that th edreaded UHU is based upon...just a different name. Dudley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 When does SAFD/EMS or Austin EMS or any other municpal agency know when to add peak units or to add additional 24 hour units??? Just when they wake up and decide the public needs more service from their agency? Know...it is the exact same principles that th edreaded UHU is based upon...just a different name. Dudley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 When does SAFD/EMS or Austin EMS or any other municpal agency know when to add peak units or to add additional 24 hour units??? Just when they wake up and decide the public needs more service from their agency? Know...it is the exact same principles that th edreaded UHU is based upon...just a different name. Dudley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Please let's get off this an move on _____ From: rachfoote@... Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 1:39 PM To: Subject: Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems In a message dated 1/17/2005 12:37:48 A.M. Central Standard Time, THEDUDMAN@... writes: Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily concerned and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who is very soon to be searching for a new job. Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax payers. Dudley You are looking at one. I am not about to be replaced real soon either unless I suddenly Keel over dead. Everyone thinks taxpayers are at the heals of anyone that doesn't make a profit. The taxpayers of my town are proud to have the great service at a reasonable cost. They know the have a top service and want to keep it. I will go into further detail if you are willing to legitimately listen and will email me off line. Andy Foote, Manager EMS City of Beaumont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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