This may be the DUMBEST question

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Hi again,

Was on-line chatting with a soaper who said she prices her soaps by wet

weight. If the mold holds 3.5oz of " liquid " soap then that is what she puts

on the label and prices by. But after curing the bar shrinks, right, now a

3.5 is a (lets say) 2.5, wouldn't that go on the label and be what you use

for price.

I know this is a dumb question but I want to be honest about pricing my

soaps.

Thanks

Carol Kapochus

Scents for the Soul

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I saw a soaper at a recent maple fest doing this. I think it is very misleading,

and dishonest. I believe if you label by wet weight you should state so on your

labels, " wet weight 3.5 oz " etc.

letting the purchaser know that it weighed that before actually packaging. but

now will definitely weigh less. but labeling dry weight, you can just state the

weight, as it will not change after packaging.

seems to me, the more honest and fair one is, the more people will come back for

products

Kelley @

Misty Meadow in NY

Re: This may be the DUMBEST question

Not a dumb question at all!!!

How odd - wet weight! It's misleading and doesn't sound all that honest.

Just MHO, of course.

I put the CURED weight on my labels. That way, should anyone take me to

task for my labels, I have correct information on there all the way down to

the weight.

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I saw a soaper at a recent maple fest doing this. I think it is very misleading,

and dishonest. I believe if you label by wet weight you should state so on your

labels, " wet weight 3.5 oz " etc.

letting the purchaser know that it weighed that before actually packaging. but

now will definitely weigh less. but labeling dry weight, you can just state the

weight, as it will not change after packaging.

seems to me, the more honest and fair one is, the more people will come back for

products

Kelley @

Misty Meadow in NY

Re: This may be the DUMBEST question

Not a dumb question at all!!!

How odd - wet weight! It's misleading and doesn't sound all that honest.

Just MHO, of course.

I put the CURED weight on my labels. That way, should anyone take me to

task for my labels, I have correct information on there all the way down to

the weight.

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[Guest guest]

I saw a soaper at a recent maple fest doing this. I think it is very misleading,

and dishonest. I believe if you label by wet weight you should state so on your

labels, " wet weight 3.5 oz " etc.

letting the purchaser know that it weighed that before actually packaging. but

now will definitely weigh less. but labeling dry weight, you can just state the

weight, as it will not change after packaging.

seems to me, the more honest and fair one is, the more people will come back for

products

Kelley @

Misty Meadow in NY

Re: This may be the DUMBEST question

Not a dumb question at all!!!

How odd - wet weight! It's misleading and doesn't sound all that honest.

Just MHO, of course.

I put the CURED weight on my labels. That way, should anyone take me to

task for my labels, I have correct information on there all the way down to

the weight.

~

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Carol,

is correct and so are you. You use the " cured dried " weight. By law

the only information about your soap you need on the label is that it is

soap and the weight. Other is information about you, and that is contact

information.

It is rare, but if that lady ever gets checked she will not be happy. That

is " knowingly deceptive " , shame on her. The sad part of that kind of thing

is that it can reflect on other soapmakers.

Sherry in Aberdeen

>Hi again,

> Was on-line chatting with a soaper who said she prices her soaps by wet

>weight. If the mold holds 3.5oz of " liquid " soap then that is what she

puts

>on the label and prices by. But after curing the bar shrinks, right, now a

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yep, it can weigh more than stated, but never less than stated on the label.

I always round down if it isn't dead on.

I'm still learning to cut same size bars. lol .hubby is much better at it than I

am.

soapers that do this weight faking, make it seem as if the customer is getting

more for their money, ( and they are making unfair $ on them) then the soap is

gone faster then it should be according to weight, and it makes us all look bad

in the end. because let's face it, they got ripped off.

Kelley @

Misty Meadow in NY

This may be the DUMBEST question

i do believe the fda will take you to task for this..........the

only stringent rule they have on soap is weight. it is my

understanding that you will be fined if you are not in

compliance. when they slap that baby on the scale, the weight

best be accurate.

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yep, it can weigh more than stated, but never less than stated on the label.

I always round down if it isn't dead on.

I'm still learning to cut same size bars. lol .hubby is much better at it than I

am.

soapers that do this weight faking, make it seem as if the customer is getting

more for their money, ( and they are making unfair $ on them) then the soap is

gone faster then it should be according to weight, and it makes us all look bad

in the end. because let's face it, they got ripped off.

Kelley @

Misty Meadow in NY

This may be the DUMBEST question

i do believe the fda will take you to task for this..........the

only stringent rule they have on soap is weight. it is my

understanding that you will be fined if you are not in

compliance. when they slap that baby on the scale, the weight

best be accurate.

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,

Soap continues to " dry " and lose weight over it's life if not used. If you

have any that you labeled 6 months ago, unwrap it and put it on the scale.

When I label, if my soap weight 3.25 oz, it is labeled as 3 oz. This gives

me some " room " for that shrinkage.

Sherry in Aberdeen

Re: This may be the DUMBEST question

> but labeling dry weight, you can just state the weight, as it

>will not change after packaging.

>seems to me, the more honest and fair one is, the more people

>will come back for products

>Kelley @

>Misty Meadow in NY

>

>

>*applause

>

>, even if it shrinks, to me, the ethics behind your

>decision deserve the applause. i tip my hat and respectfully

>request someone to pass this kid the crown!

>

>way to go!

>

>

>

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,

Soap continues to " dry " and lose weight over it's life if not used. If you

have any that you labeled 6 months ago, unwrap it and put it on the scale.

When I label, if my soap weight 3.25 oz, it is labeled as 3 oz. This gives

me some " room " for that shrinkage.

Sherry in Aberdeen

Re: This may be the DUMBEST question

> but labeling dry weight, you can just state the weight, as it

>will not change after packaging.

>seems to me, the more honest and fair one is, the more people

>will come back for products

>Kelley @

>Misty Meadow in NY

>

>

>*applause

>

>, even if it shrinks, to me, the ethics behind your

>decision deserve the applause. i tip my hat and respectfully

>request someone to pass this kid the crown!

>

>way to go!

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

,

Soap continues to " dry " and lose weight over it's life if not used. If you

have any that you labeled 6 months ago, unwrap it and put it on the scale.

When I label, if my soap weight 3.25 oz, it is labeled as 3 oz. This gives

me some " room " for that shrinkage.

Sherry in Aberdeen

Re: This may be the DUMBEST question

> but labeling dry weight, you can just state the weight, as it

>will not change after packaging.

>seems to me, the more honest and fair one is, the more people

>will come back for products

>Kelley @

>Misty Meadow in NY

>

>

>*applause

>

>, even if it shrinks, to me, the ethics behind your

>decision deserve the applause. i tip my hat and respectfully

>request someone to pass this kid the crown!

>

>way to go!

>

>

>

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>Get paid for the stuff you know!

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In a message dated 5/2/00 3:14:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CoilLady@...

writes:

<< Was on-line chatting with a soaper who said she prices her soaps by wet

weight. If the mold holds 3.5oz of " liquid " soap then that is what she

puts

on the label and prices by. But after curing the bar shrinks, right, now a

3.5 is a (lets say) 2.5, wouldn't that go on the label and be what you use

for price.

I know this is a dumb question but I want to be honest about pricing my

soaps. >>

That's not a dumb question at all. I don't think it's fair to charge my

customers for water, so I weigh mine after they are cured, when I wrap them.

I wrap them in cellophane so there is very little shrinkage after they are

wrapped. They are usually cured for 2-3 weeks, sometimes more when they are

wrapped.

Shelle O'Brien

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