Re: oral chelation clarification - protocol contradiction?

[Guest guest]

>Would like some clarification on the oral chelation as outlined from Andy's

protocol:

>http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/oral_chelation1.html

>My question deals with the sentence: " NAC (N-acetyl L-cystiene) is a widely

available glutathione precursor that has the >ability to directly bind and

excrete mercury via its single thiol "

>Notice the words directly bind and excrete. I would like to know if portions of

this document were copied from another >source and which ones were actual

writing of Andy? This line implies that a single thiol can bind and exrete

mercury from the >body. Later on in the section it goes on to define chelators

as: " Chelators are identified by the presence of two dithiol >groups.

Hi,

You are correct, the wording it is misleading and can be mis-interpreted. This

was copied from another document and is NOT Andy's words. I will ensure it is

updated to be more clear.

Maybe others can clarify how the body deals with mercury in the healthy

non-toxic state. My understanding is that it uses the glutathione pathway in the

liver to clear mercury from the body. Andy shows the liver phase 2 pathway on

page 42 AI and says 'toxic metals' are conjugated in it. This is not the same as

chelating which is a strong bond. DMSA is not a naturally occurring compound.

ALA is, but is found in nature in only small amounts.

So I believe it is correct to say that in 'pre-toxic' times before dentists and

vaccines the body used glutathione to " move " the small amounts of mercury that

it encountered out of the body and also used ALA to " chelate " small amounts of

mercury out of the brain and body.

In modern time perhaps our glutathione pathway is overrun in some with all the

mercury it was never designed to deal with. We therefore have to use chelators

in un-naturally high amounts to reverse the damage. And if you are low

glutathione then you need to use NAC to help. Did I also read somewhere that

most ill people are low in glutathione?

Perhaps others can clarify how mercury is detoxified by the body without

externally providing chelators? For example how is it excreted in the hair? How

do some people like the dentist in Hair Test 2

www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/hairtest.html are able to be exposed to

massive amounts of mercury and have no deranged mineral transport and feel

subjectively well. What is his body using to excrete the mercury (he was not

taking any chelators at the time) and feels as fit as a horse.

Thanks,

Dean

[Guest guest]

>Would like some clarification on the oral chelation as outlined from Andy's

protocol:

>http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/oral_chelation1.html

>My question deals with the sentence: " NAC (N-acetyl L-cystiene) is a widely

available glutathione precursor that has the >ability to directly bind and

excrete mercury via its single thiol "

>Notice the words directly bind and excrete. I would like to know if portions of

this document were copied from another >source and which ones were actual

writing of Andy? This line implies that a single thiol can bind and exrete

mercury from the >body. Later on in the section it goes on to define chelators

as: " Chelators are identified by the presence of two dithiol >groups.

Hi,

You are correct, the wording it is misleading and can be mis-interpreted. This

was copied from another document and is NOT Andy's words. I will ensure it is

updated to be more clear.

Maybe others can clarify how the body deals with mercury in the healthy

non-toxic state. My understanding is that it uses the glutathione pathway in the

liver to clear mercury from the body. Andy shows the liver phase 2 pathway on

page 42 AI and says 'toxic metals' are conjugated in it. This is not the same as

chelating which is a strong bond. DMSA is not a naturally occurring compound.

ALA is, but is found in nature in only small amounts.

So I believe it is correct to say that in 'pre-toxic' times before dentists and

vaccines the body used glutathione to " move " the small amounts of mercury that

it encountered out of the body and also used ALA to " chelate " small amounts of

mercury out of the brain and body.

In modern time perhaps our glutathione pathway is overrun in some with all the

mercury it was never designed to deal with. We therefore have to use chelators

in un-naturally high amounts to reverse the damage. And if you are low

glutathione then you need to use NAC to help. Did I also read somewhere that

most ill people are low in glutathione?

Perhaps others can clarify how mercury is detoxified by the body without

externally providing chelators? For example how is it excreted in the hair? How

do some people like the dentist in Hair Test 2

www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/hairtest.html are able to be exposed to

massive amounts of mercury and have no deranged mineral transport and feel

subjectively well. What is his body using to excrete the mercury (he was not

taking any chelators at the time) and feels as fit as a horse.

Thanks,

Dean

[Guest guest]

>Would like some clarification on the oral chelation as outlined from Andy's

protocol:

>http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/oral_chelation1.html

>My question deals with the sentence: " NAC (N-acetyl L-cystiene) is a widely

available glutathione precursor that has the >ability to directly bind and

excrete mercury via its single thiol "

>Notice the words directly bind and excrete. I would like to know if portions of

this document were copied from another >source and which ones were actual

writing of Andy? This line implies that a single thiol can bind and exrete

mercury from the >body. Later on in the section it goes on to define chelators

as: " Chelators are identified by the presence of two dithiol >groups.

Hi,

You are correct, the wording it is misleading and can be mis-interpreted. This

was copied from another document and is NOT Andy's words. I will ensure it is

updated to be more clear.

Maybe others can clarify how the body deals with mercury in the healthy

non-toxic state. My understanding is that it uses the glutathione pathway in the

liver to clear mercury from the body. Andy shows the liver phase 2 pathway on

page 42 AI and says 'toxic metals' are conjugated in it. This is not the same as

chelating which is a strong bond. DMSA is not a naturally occurring compound.

ALA is, but is found in nature in only small amounts.

So I believe it is correct to say that in 'pre-toxic' times before dentists and

vaccines the body used glutathione to " move " the small amounts of mercury that

it encountered out of the body and also used ALA to " chelate " small amounts of

mercury out of the brain and body.

In modern time perhaps our glutathione pathway is overrun in some with all the

mercury it was never designed to deal with. We therefore have to use chelators

in un-naturally high amounts to reverse the damage. And if you are low

glutathione then you need to use NAC to help. Did I also read somewhere that

most ill people are low in glutathione?

Perhaps others can clarify how mercury is detoxified by the body without

externally providing chelators? For example how is it excreted in the hair? How

do some people like the dentist in Hair Test 2

www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/hairtest.html are able to be exposed to

massive amounts of mercury and have no deranged mineral transport and feel

subjectively well. What is his body using to excrete the mercury (he was not

taking any chelators at the time) and feels as fit as a horse.

Thanks,

Dean

[Guest guest]

>>Did I also read somewhere that most ill people are low in glutathione?<<

Dean, I don't have the exact post, but I recall Andy making this statement that

all chronically ill people have low glutathione. It stuck in my head because I

am low glutathione. And I don't remember which board I read it on either. I

read the A-M board, and Andy used to post there more frequently last year, and

that may be where I read it.----------Jackie T.

>>Perhaps others can clarify how mercury is detoxified by the body without

externally providing chelators? For example how is it excreted in the hair? How

do some people like the dentist in Hair Test 2

www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/hairtest.html are able to be exposed to

massive amounts of mercury and have no deranged mineral transport and feel

subjectively well. What is his body using to excrete the mercury (he was not

taking any chelators at the time) and feels as fit as a horse.

Thanks,

Dean<<

Dean, I don't get all this chemistry stuff real well, so not sure if I can

explain it well enough, but here's what I understand about this. We have

different genes or blood allelles I think they are called, that have to do with

our ability to detoxify metals. You have two, or a pair, that determine this.

They are APO-E2, APO-E3, and APO-E4. The APO-E2's are good excretors of metals,

the E3's are in the middle, and the E4's are poor or non-excretors of metals.

They have found E4's in people with Alzheimers. So your dentist in the above

example probably has two E2's and is an excellent excretor of metals. So this

also explains the wide variability in who gets mercury poisoning and who

doesn't, and why the amount of exposure can vary. Some of us are just more

genetically susceptible to it. It would be an interesting test to have done,

and I don't know why you don't hear about people doing it. I think I asked one

doctor and he told me it would cost about $500, but didn't encourage me to do

it, saying it wouldn't help anything. But I think it would be very interesting

to know, and if I win the lottery I'm getting it done!-------Jackie T

Re: oral chelation clarification - protocol

contradiction?

>Would like some clarification on the oral chelation as outlined from Andy's

protocol:

>http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/oral_chelation1.html

>My question deals with the sentence: " NAC (N-acetyl L-cystiene) is a widely

available glutathione precursor that has the >ability to directly bind and

excrete mercury via its single thiol "

>Notice the words directly bind and excrete. I would like to know if portions

of this document were copied from another >source and which ones were actual

writing of Andy? This line implies that a single thiol can bind and exrete

mercury from the >body. Later on in the section it goes on to define chelators

as: " Chelators are identified by the presence of two dithiol >groups.

Hi,

You are correct, the wording it is misleading and can be mis-interpreted. This

was copied from another document and is NOT Andy's words. I will ensure it is

updated to be more clear.

Maybe others can clarify how the body deals with mercury in the healthy

non-toxic state. My understanding is that it uses the glutathione pathway in the

liver to clear mercury from the body. Andy shows the liver phase 2 pathway on

page 42 AI and says 'toxic metals' are conjugated in it. This is not the same as

chelating which is a strong bond. DMSA is not a naturally occurring compound.

ALA is, but is found in nature in only small amounts.

So I believe it is correct to say that in 'pre-toxic' times before dentists

and vaccines the body used glutathione to " move " the small amounts of mercury

that it encountered out of the body and also used ALA to " chelate " small amounts

of mercury out of the brain and body.

In modern time perhaps our glutathione pathway is overrun in some with all the

mercury it was never designed to deal with. We therefore have to use chelators

in un-naturally high amounts to reverse the damage. And if you are low

glutathione then you need to use NAC to help. Did I also read somewhere that

most ill people are low in glutathione?

Perhaps others can clarify how mercury is detoxified by the body without

externally providing chelators? For example how is it excreted in the hair? How

do some people like the dentist in Hair Test 2

www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/hairtest.html are able to be exposed to

massive amounts of mercury and have no deranged mineral transport and feel

subjectively well. What is his body using to excrete the mercury (he was not

taking any chelators at the time) and feels as fit as a horse.

Thanks,

Dean

[Guest guest]

To find what Andy has to say about the difference between true

chelators and single thiol compounds see the Andy index.

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/ANDY_INDEX.html#sulfur

J

>

> >Would like some clarification on the oral chelation as outlined

from Andy's protocol:

> >http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/oral_chelation1.html

> >My question deals with the sentence: " NAC (N-acetyl L-cystiene) is

a widely available glutathione precursor that has the >ability to

directly bind and excrete mercury via its single thiol "

> >Notice the words directly bind and excrete. I would like to know if

portions of this document were copied from another >source and which

ones were actual writing of Andy? This line implies that a single

thiol can bind and exrete mercury from the >body. Later on in the

section it goes on to define chelators as: " Chelators are identified

by the presence of two dithiol >groups.

>

> Hi,

> You are correct, the wording it is misleading and can be

mis-interpreted. This was copied from another document and is NOT

Andy's words. I will ensure it is updated to be more clear.

>

> Maybe others can clarify how the body deals with mercury in the

healthy non-toxic state. My understanding is that it uses the

glutathione pathway in the liver to clear mercury from the body. Andy

shows the liver phase 2 pathway on page 42 AI and says 'toxic metals'

are conjugated in it. This is not the same as chelating which is a

strong bond. DMSA is not a naturally occurring compound. ALA is, but

is found in nature in only small amounts.

>

> So I believe it is correct to say that in 'pre-toxic' times before

dentists and vaccines the body used glutathione to " move " the small

amounts of mercury that it encountered out of the body and also used

ALA to " chelate " small amounts of mercury out of the brain and body.

> In modern time perhaps our glutathione pathway is overrun in some

with all the mercury it was never designed to deal with. We therefore

have to use chelators in un-naturally high amounts to reverse the

damage. And if you are low glutathione then you need to use NAC to

help. Did I also read somewhere that most ill people are low in

glutathione?

>

> Perhaps others can clarify how mercury is detoxified by the body

without externally providing chelators? For example how is it excreted

in the hair? How do some people like the dentist in Hair Test 2

www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/hairtest.html are able to be

exposed to massive amounts of mercury and have no deranged mineral

transport and feel subjectively well. What is his body using to

excrete the mercury (he was not taking any chelators at the time) and

feels as fit as a horse.

> Thanks,

> Dean

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Maybe others can clarify how the body deals with mercury in the

healthy non-toxic state. My understanding is that it uses the

glutathione pathway in the liver to clear mercury from the body. Andy

shows the liver phase 2 pathway on page 42 AI and says 'toxic metals'

are conjugated in it. This is not the same as chelating which is a

strong bond. DMSA is not a naturally occurring compound. ALA is, but

is found in nature in only small amounts.

Moria's collection of Andy's posts on sulfur/glutathione may be

somewhat helpful. There is more on this topic in onibasu.

My understanding is if your body is able to move toxic metals

into the liver, then glutathione will help get them into the

bile for excretion. However if you are mercury toxic, your

body's normal processes for getting the metals to the liver

are not working well. I gather this part does not involve

glutathione, but I'm not sure how it normally works.

If we did not get huge exposures to mercury in short periods

of time, such as vaccines, dental exposure, etc, then we might

be able to excrete the mercury well enough. But when you get

big doses in short periods, the body's mechanisms for detoxing

it become compromised. When that happens, we need chelation

to remove enough mercury to allow the normal detox process to

work again.

--

[Guest guest]

> Maybe others can clarify how the body deals with mercury in the

healthy non-toxic state. My understanding is that it uses the

glutathione pathway in the liver to clear mercury from the body. Andy

shows the liver phase 2 pathway on page 42 AI and says 'toxic metals'

are conjugated in it. This is not the same as chelating which is a

strong bond. DMSA is not a naturally occurring compound. ALA is, but

is found in nature in only small amounts.

Moria's collection of Andy's posts on sulfur/glutathione may be

somewhat helpful. There is more on this topic in onibasu.

My understanding is if your body is able to move toxic metals

into the liver, then glutathione will help get them into the

bile for excretion. However if you are mercury toxic, your

body's normal processes for getting the metals to the liver

are not working well. I gather this part does not involve

glutathione, but I'm not sure how it normally works.

If we did not get huge exposures to mercury in short periods

of time, such as vaccines, dental exposure, etc, then we might

be able to excrete the mercury well enough. But when you get

big doses in short periods, the body's mechanisms for detoxing

it become compromised. When that happens, we need chelation

to remove enough mercury to allow the normal detox process to

work again.

--

[Guest guest]

> Maybe others can clarify how the body deals with mercury in the

healthy non-toxic state. My understanding is that it uses the

glutathione pathway in the liver to clear mercury from the body. Andy

shows the liver phase 2 pathway on page 42 AI and says 'toxic metals'

are conjugated in it. This is not the same as chelating which is a

strong bond. DMSA is not a naturally occurring compound. ALA is, but

is found in nature in only small amounts.

Moria's collection of Andy's posts on sulfur/glutathione may be

somewhat helpful. There is more on this topic in onibasu.

My understanding is if your body is able to move toxic metals

into the liver, then glutathione will help get them into the

bile for excretion. However if you are mercury toxic, your

body's normal processes for getting the metals to the liver

are not working well. I gather this part does not involve

glutathione, but I'm not sure how it normally works.

If we did not get huge exposures to mercury in short periods

of time, such as vaccines, dental exposure, etc, then we might

be able to excrete the mercury well enough. But when you get

big doses in short periods, the body's mechanisms for detoxing

it become compromised. When that happens, we need chelation

to remove enough mercury to allow the normal detox process to

work again.

--

[Guest guest]

Do we need something else while taking Glutathione, for moving mercury from

the liver (as you have

stated in your e-mail). It appears somewhat I am experiencing ? . I cannot

tolerate milk thistle.

Thanks,

Nadeem Khan

>

>Reply-To: frequent-dose-chelation

>To: frequent-dose-chelation

>Subject: Re: oral chelation clarification -

>protocol contradiction?

>Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 01:32:30 -0000

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > Maybe others can clarify how the body deals with mercury in the

>healthy non-toxic state. My understanding is that it uses the

>glutathione pathway in the liver to clear mercury from the body. Andy

>shows the liver phase 2 pathway on page 42 AI and says 'toxic metals'

>are conjugated in it. This is not the same as chelating which is a

>strong bond. DMSA is not a naturally occurring compound. ALA is, but

>is found in nature in only small amounts.

>

>

>Moria's collection of Andy's posts on sulfur/glutathione may be

>somewhat helpful. There is more on this topic in onibasu.

>

>My understanding is if your body is able to move toxic metals

>into the liver, then glutathione will help get them into the

>bile for excretion. However if you are mercury toxic, your

>body's normal processes for getting the metals to the liver

>are not working well. I gather this part does not involve

>glutathione, but I'm not sure how it normally works.

>

>If we did not get huge exposures to mercury in short periods

>of time, such as vaccines, dental exposure, etc, then we might

>be able to excrete the mercury well enough. But when you get

>big doses in short periods, the body's mechanisms for detoxing

>it become compromised. When that happens, we need chelation

>to remove enough mercury to allow the normal detox process to

>work again.

>

>--

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Do we need something else while taking Glutathione, for moving mercury from

the liver (as you have

stated in your e-mail). It appears somewhat I am experiencing ? . I cannot

tolerate milk thistle.

Thanks,

Nadeem Khan

>

>Reply-To: frequent-dose-chelation

>To: frequent-dose-chelation

>Subject: Re: oral chelation clarification -

>protocol contradiction?

>Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 01:32:30 -0000

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > Maybe others can clarify how the body deals with mercury in the

>healthy non-toxic state. My understanding is that it uses the

>glutathione pathway in the liver to clear mercury from the body. Andy

>shows the liver phase 2 pathway on page 42 AI and says 'toxic metals'

>are conjugated in it. This is not the same as chelating which is a

>strong bond. DMSA is not a naturally occurring compound. ALA is, but

>is found in nature in only small amounts.

>

>

>Moria's collection of Andy's posts on sulfur/glutathione may be

>somewhat helpful. There is more on this topic in onibasu.

>

>My understanding is if your body is able to move toxic metals

>into the liver, then glutathione will help get them into the

>bile for excretion. However if you are mercury toxic, your

>body's normal processes for getting the metals to the liver

>are not working well. I gather this part does not involve

>glutathione, but I'm not sure how it normally works.

>

>If we did not get huge exposures to mercury in short periods

>of time, such as vaccines, dental exposure, etc, then we might

>be able to excrete the mercury well enough. But when you get

>big doses in short periods, the body's mechanisms for detoxing

>it become compromised. When that happens, we need chelation

>to remove enough mercury to allow the normal detox process to

>work again.

>

>--

>

>

>

>

>

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Vitamin A. They are attaching phosphatidylcholine to other things as well,

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Re: oral chelation clarification -

>>protocol contradiction?

>>Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 01:32:30 -0000

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> > Maybe others can clarify how the body deals with mercury in the

>>healthy non-toxic state. My understanding is that it uses the

>>glutathione pathway in the liver to clear mercury from the body. Andy

>>shows the liver phase 2 pathway on page 42 AI and says 'toxic metals'

>>are conjugated in it. This is not the same as chelating which is a

>>strong bond. DMSA is not a naturally occurring compound. ALA is, but

>>is found in nature in only small amounts.

>>

>>

>>Moria's collection of Andy's posts on sulfur/glutathione may be

>>somewhat helpful. There is more on this topic in onibasu.

>>

>>My understanding is if your body is able to move toxic metals

>>into the liver, then glutathione will help get them into the

>>bile for excretion. However if you are mercury toxic, your

>>body's normal processes for getting the metals to the liver

>>are not working well. I gather this part does not involve

>>glutathione, but I'm not sure how it normally works.

>>

>>If we did not get huge exposures to mercury in short periods

>>of time, such as vaccines, dental exposure, etc, then we might

>>be able to excrete the mercury well enough. But when you get

>>big doses in short periods, the body's mechanisms for detoxing

>>it become compromised. When that happens, we need chelation

>>to remove enough mercury to allow the normal detox process to

>>work again.

>>

>>--

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Re: oral chelation clarification -

>>protocol contradiction?

>>Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 01:32:30 -0000

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> > Maybe others can clarify how the body deals with mercury in the

>>healthy non-toxic state. My understanding is that it uses the

>>glutathione pathway in the liver to clear mercury from the body. Andy

>>shows the liver phase 2 pathway on page 42 AI and says 'toxic metals'

>>are conjugated in it. This is not the same as chelating which is a

>>strong bond. DMSA is not a naturally occurring compound. ALA is, but

>>is found in nature in only small amounts.

>>

>>

>>Moria's collection of Andy's posts on sulfur/glutathione may be

>>somewhat helpful. There is more on this topic in onibasu.

>>

>>My understanding is if your body is able to move toxic metals

>>into the liver, then glutathione will help get them into the

>>bile for excretion. However if you are mercury toxic, your

>>body's normal processes for getting the metals to the liver

>>are not working well. I gather this part does not involve

>>glutathione, but I'm not sure how it normally works.

>>

>>If we did not get huge exposures to mercury in short periods

>>of time, such as vaccines, dental exposure, etc, then we might

>>be able to excrete the mercury well enough. But when you get

>>big doses in short periods, the body's mechanisms for detoxing

>>it become compromised. When that happens, we need chelation

>>to remove enough mercury to allow the normal detox process to

>>work again.

>>

>>--

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Re: oral chelation clarification -

>>protocol contradiction?

>>Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 01:32:30 -0000

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> > Maybe others can clarify how the body deals with mercury in the

>>healthy non-toxic state. My understanding is that it uses the

>>glutathione pathway in the liver to clear mercury from the body. Andy

>>shows the liver phase 2 pathway on page 42 AI and says 'toxic metals'

>>are conjugated in it. This is not the same as chelating which is a

>>strong bond. DMSA is not a naturally occurring compound. ALA is, but

>>is found in nature in only small amounts.

>>

>>

>>Moria's collection of Andy's posts on sulfur/glutathione may be

>>somewhat helpful. There is more on this topic in onibasu.

>>

>>My understanding is if your body is able to move toxic metals

>>into the liver, then glutathione will help get them into the

>>bile for excretion. However if you are mercury toxic, your

>>body's normal processes for getting the metals to the liver

>>are not working well. I gather this part does not involve

>>glutathione, but I'm not sure how it normally works.

>>

>>If we did not get huge exposures to mercury in short periods

>>of time, such as vaccines, dental exposure, etc, then we might

>>be able to excrete the mercury well enough. But when you get

>>big doses in short periods, the body's mechanisms for detoxing

>>it become compromised. When that happens, we need chelation

>>to remove enough mercury to allow the normal detox process to

>>work again.

>>

>>--

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > Maybe others can clarify how the body deals with mercury in the

> >healthy non-toxic state. My understanding is that it uses the

> >glutathione pathway in the liver to clear mercury from the body. Andy

> >shows the liver phase 2 pathway on page 42 AI and says 'toxic metals'

> >are conjugated in it. This is not the same as chelating which is a

> >strong bond. DMSA is not a naturally occurring compound. ALA is, but

> >is found in nature in only small amounts.

> >

> >

> >Moria's collection of Andy's posts on sulfur/glutathione may be

> >somewhat helpful. There is more on this topic in onibasu.

> >

> >My understanding is if your body is able to move toxic metals

> >into the liver, then glutathione will help get them into the

> >bile for excretion. However if you are mercury toxic, your

> >body's normal processes for getting the metals to the liver

> >are not working well. I gather this part does not involve

> >glutathione, but I'm not sure how it normally works.

> >

> >If we did not get huge exposures to mercury in short periods

> >of time, such as vaccines, dental exposure, etc, then we might

> >be able to excrete the mercury well enough. But when you get

> >big doses in short periods, the body's mechanisms for detoxing

> >it become compromised. When that happens, we need chelation

> >to remove enough mercury to allow the normal detox process to

> >work again.

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Thanks for the clarification.

Nadeem

>

>Reply-To: frequent-dose-chelation

>To: frequent-dose-chelation

>Subject: Re: oral chelation clarification -

>protocol contradiction?

>Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:18:27 -0000

>

>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Maybe others can clarify how the body deals with mercury in the

> > >healthy non-toxic state. My understanding is that it uses the

> > >glutathione pathway in the liver to clear mercury from the body. Andy

> > >shows the liver phase 2 pathway on page 42 AI and says 'toxic metals'

> > >are conjugated in it. This is not the same as chelating which is a

> > >strong bond. DMSA is not a naturally occurring compound. ALA is, but

> > >is found in nature in only small amounts.

> > >

> > >

> > >Moria's collection of Andy's posts on sulfur/glutathione may be

> > >somewhat helpful. There is more on this topic in onibasu.

> > >

> > >My understanding is if your body is able to move toxic metals

> > >into the liver, then glutathione will help get them into the

> > >bile for excretion. However if you are mercury toxic, your

> > >body's normal processes for getting the metals to the liver

> > >are not working well. I gather this part does not involve

> > >glutathione, but I'm not sure how it normally works.

> > >

> > >If we did not get huge exposures to mercury in short periods

> > >of time, such as vaccines, dental exposure, etc, then we might

> > >be able to excrete the mercury well enough. But when you get

> > >big doses in short periods, the body's mechanisms for detoxing

> > >it become compromised. When that happens, we need chelation

> > >to remove enough mercury to allow the normal detox process to

> > >work again.

> > >

> > >--

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Thanks for the clarification.

Nadeem

>

>Reply-To: frequent-dose-chelation

>To: frequent-dose-chelation

>Subject: Re: oral chelation clarification -

>protocol contradiction?

>Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:18:27 -0000

>

>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Maybe others can clarify how the body deals with mercury in the

> > >healthy non-toxic state. My understanding is that it uses the

> > >glutathione pathway in the liver to clear mercury from the body. Andy

> > >shows the liver phase 2 pathway on page 42 AI and says 'toxic metals'

> > >are conjugated in it. This is not the same as chelating which is a

> > >strong bond. DMSA is not a naturally occurring compound. ALA is, but

> > >is found in nature in only small amounts.

> > >

> > >

> > >Moria's collection of Andy's posts on sulfur/glutathione may be

> > >somewhat helpful. There is more on this topic in onibasu.

> > >

> > >My understanding is if your body is able to move toxic metals

> > >into the liver, then glutathione will help get them into the

> > >bile for excretion. However if you are mercury toxic, your

> > >body's normal processes for getting the metals to the liver

> > >are not working well. I gather this part does not involve

> > >glutathione, but I'm not sure how it normally works.

> > >

> > >If we did not get huge exposures to mercury in short periods

> > >of time, such as vaccines, dental exposure, etc, then we might

> > >be able to excrete the mercury well enough. But when you get

> > >big doses in short periods, the body's mechanisms for detoxing

> > >it become compromised. When that happens, we need chelation

> > >to remove enough mercury to allow the normal detox process to

> > >work again.

> > >

> > >--

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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Thanks for the clarification.

Nadeem

>

>Reply-To: frequent-dose-chelation

>To: frequent-dose-chelation

>Subject: Re: oral chelation clarification -

>protocol contradiction?

>Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:18:27 -0000

>

>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Maybe others can clarify how the body deals with mercury in the

> > >healthy non-toxic state. My understanding is that it uses the

> > >glutathione pathway in the liver to clear mercury from the body. Andy

> > >shows the liver phase 2 pathway on page 42 AI and says 'toxic metals'

> > >are conjugated in it. This is not the same as chelating which is a

> > >strong bond. DMSA is not a naturally occurring compound. ALA is, but

> > >is found in nature in only small amounts.

> > >

> > >

> > >Moria's collection of Andy's posts on sulfur/glutathione may be

> > >somewhat helpful. There is more on this topic in onibasu.

> > >

> > >My understanding is if your body is able to move toxic metals

> > >into the liver, then glutathione will help get them into the

> > >bile for excretion. However if you are mercury toxic, your

> > >body's normal processes for getting the metals to the liver

> > >are not working well. I gather this part does not involve

> > >glutathione, but I'm not sure how it normally works.

> > >

> > >If we did not get huge exposures to mercury in short periods

> > >of time, such as vaccines, dental exposure, etc, then we might

> > >be able to excrete the mercury well enough. But when you get

> > >big doses in short periods, the body's mechanisms for detoxing

> > >it become compromised. When that happens, we need chelation

> > >to remove enough mercury to allow the normal detox process to

> > >work again.

> > >

> > >--

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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>

> >>Did I also read somewhere that most ill people are low in glutathione?<<

>

> Dean, I don't have the exact post, but I recall Andy making this statement

that all

chronically ill people have low glutathione.

Yes. As do most acutely ill people.

>It stuck in my head because I am low glutathione. And I don't remember which

board I

read it on either. I read the A-M board, and Andy used to post there more

frequently last

year, and that may be where I read it.----------Jackie T.

>

>

>

> >>Perhaps others can clarify how mercury is detoxified by the body without

externally

providing chelators?

Not in the presence of deranged mineral transport, and never from the brain.

Andy

[Guest guest]

>

> >>Did I also read somewhere that most ill people are low in glutathione?<<

>

> Dean, I don't have the exact post, but I recall Andy making this statement

that all

chronically ill people have low glutathione.

Yes. As do most acutely ill people.

>It stuck in my head because I am low glutathione. And I don't remember which

board I

read it on either. I read the A-M board, and Andy used to post there more

frequently last

year, and that may be where I read it.----------Jackie T.

>

>

>

> >>Perhaps others can clarify how mercury is detoxified by the body without

externally

providing chelators?

Not in the presence of deranged mineral transport, and never from the brain.

Andy

[Guest guest]

>

> >>Did I also read somewhere that most ill people are low in glutathione?<<

>

> Dean, I don't have the exact post, but I recall Andy making this statement

that all

chronically ill people have low glutathione.

Yes. As do most acutely ill people.

>It stuck in my head because I am low glutathione. And I don't remember which

board I

read it on either. I read the A-M board, and Andy used to post there more

frequently last

year, and that may be where I read it.----------Jackie T.

>

>

>

> >>Perhaps others can clarify how mercury is detoxified by the body without

externally

providing chelators?

Not in the presence of deranged mineral transport, and never from the brain.

Andy