Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 > > H. said, > > >In my mind marijuana certainly should be legal. It is much less > > >harmful any way you look at it than alcohol. > > Anne said, > > And the evidence for this? The following evidence is not in the form of a study, but the conclusions reached in my Sociology text, " Deviant Behavior: Crime, Conflict and Interest Groups, " by H. McCaghy, A. Capron and J.D. son. This is a source I trust and if anyone is interested in the footnoted information I will provide it. p. 317. " The long-term impact of marijuana use on the human system is yet unknown. The Institute of Medicine assembled a committee to analyze the existing evidence about its health hazards. Although committee members concluded that the drug's use " justifies serious national concern, " they also pointed out great areas of ignorance about its effects. In any case, most negative effects were linked to long-term, heavy use. Among the committee's findings were the following: 1. There is no conclusive evidence that prolonged marijuana use causes permanent changes in the nervous system or in brain functions. 2. While there is evidence that heavy usage is linked with mental disorders, it is unknown whether the usage is a cause or a result of the disorders. 3. While there is evidence that smoking marijuana causes acute changes in the heart and in circulation, there is no evidence of long-term effects on the system. 4. There is evidence that heavy smoking of marijuana, like heavy tobacco smoking, may be linked with cancer of the lungs and respiratory tract. 5. There is no conclusive evidence that a mother's use of marijuana can harm the human fetus. 6. There is no conclusive evidence that using the drug impairs the body's immunity system. 7. The body does build tolerance for marijuana and mild withdrawal symptoms do occur: restlessness, irritability, mild agitation, and insomnia. But there is no evidence of " compulsive behavior to acquire the drug " or of other indicators of " addictions. " Thus, despite the committee's concern, one must conclude from its report that marijuana is less dangerous to the user than are the legal drugs of alcohol and tobacco. <snip to next secion> Marijuana Use and Deviance From what we have said about marijuana, it appears that, at worst, its known physiological hazards rank lower than do those of alcohol and tobacco. Of course, there are hazards from the drug: driving an automobile under its influence is dangerous because it impairs coordination and reaction time. We also know that regular users--20 or more times in 30 days--tend to do poorly in school because they are absent more frequently than are irregular users or nonusers.120 The cause-effect relationship is not clear, however. Perhaps those who skip class are more likely to be frequent users rather than vice versa. Do these kinds of problems warrant making the drug illegal? Or are we missing something? For example, is marijuana linked to other crimes: homicide, rape, and so on? According to the National Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse, * " The only crimes which can be directly attributed to marihuana-using behavior are those resulting from the use, possession or transfer of an illegal substance " * [emphasis in the text]121 In short, the crimes stemming from marijuana are the same crimes that would stem from butter it if were made illegal. But marijuana leads to the use of heroin and other dangerous drugs, doesn't it? The Bureau of Narcotics certainly thought so. In its 1965 publication, subtly entitled 'Living Death: The Truth About Drug Addiction,' it claimed that 'it cannot be too strongly emphasized that the smoking of the marijuana cigarette is a dangerous first step on the road which usually leads to enslavement by heroin...*Most* teenaged addicts started smoking marijuana cigarettes. *Never let anyone persuade you to smoke even one marijuana cigarette. It is pure poison.* " 122' There is no question that studies comparing marijuana users with nonusers find that users are more likely to use heroin. But it is one thing to say that persons who use marijuana are more likely to try heroin; it is quite another thing to say that marijuana use leads to heroin use. It must be recognized that coffee drinkers, aspirin takers, tobacco smokers, and alcohol drinkers are all more likely to use illegal drugs than are noncoffee drinkers, nonaspirin takers, and so on. In fact, any user of any drug, legal or illegal, is more likely than a nonuser to use any other drug.123 As h Goode puts it, 'individuals who use drugs tend to be selectively recruited from segments of the population tha tare already oriented toward the use of drugs. In this sense, there is a kind of drug-taking " disposition. " Thus, even before we examine whether the effects of marijuana per se have anything to do with " causing " the use of more dangerous drugs, it is necessary to start with the question of whether the population characteristics of those who use marijuana might be correlated with those of individuals who use other drugs, to see whether dangerous drug users might not be selectively recruited out of the larger marijuana-using group.'124 Goode also points out that the criminal status of marijuana also isolates users to some degree from conventional society and incorporates them into a drug-taking subculture with its own particular norms and verbalized motives supporting all kinds of drug-taking. It is possible, he suggests, that removing the illegal status of marijuana might decrease the number of persons turning to heroin because it would neutralize the influence of the criminal drug-taking subculture. " ========== There is another section called " Marijuana and Conflict " but I will summarize, rather than typing verbatim. Marijuana was not included in the on Act of 1914 which put opiates and cocaine under strict control. The pharmaceutical industry objected because it was used in animal medicines and corn plasters. However, fears about it did build, especially because of Mexican migrant laborers that were coming to California. " The problem of marijuana and the problem of Mexican immigration became one. " [ok, typing verbatim again...this is really interesting!] " Political pressure for the federal prohibition of marijuana grew as its presumed link with race and crime was increasingly publicized. The racial element is illustrated by this excerpt from a 1936 letter from a Colorado newspaper editor to the Bureau of Narcotics: 'Is there any assistance your Bureau can give us in handling this drug?...I wish I could show you what a small marijuana cigarette can do to one of our degenerate Spanish-speaking residents. That's why our problem is so great: The greatest percentage of our population is composed of Spanish-speaking persons, most of whom are low mentally, because of social and racial conditions. While marijuana has figured in the greatest number of crimes in the past few years, officials fear it, not for what it has done, but for what it is capable of doing. They want to check it before an outbreak occurs.'127 In addition to marijuana's association with a powerless minority group, myths about the drug causing violent and perverted crimes were considerably elaborated. By 1936, for example, 68 percent of all crimes committed in New Orleans were attributed to marijuana users. A propaganda campaign was launched with the support of the Bureau of Narcotics to warn the public about the 'Marijuana Menace' and its role as a 'Killer Drug.' An illustrated poster was prepared for trains, buses, and streetcars: 'BEWARE! Young and old people in all walks of life! This marihuana cigarette may be handed to YOU by the *friendly stranger.* It contains the Killer Drug Marihuana in which lurks MURDER! INSANITY! DEATH!--WARNING! Dope Peddlers are shrewd! They may put some of this drug in the teapot or in the cocktail or in the tobacco cigarette.' The stream of misinformation about the drug is exemplified by this excerpt froma pamphlet issued by the International Narcotic Education Association: 'Prolonged use of marihuana frequently develops a delirious rage which sometimes leads to high crimes, such as assult and murder. Hence marihuana has been called the 'killer drug.' The habitual use of this narcotic poison always causes a very marked mental deterioration and sometimes produces insanity...While the marihuana habit leads to physical wreckage and mental decay, its effects upon character and morality are even more devastation. The victim frequently undergoes such degeneracy that he will lie and steal without scruple; he becomes utterly untrustworthy...Marihuana sometimes gives man the lust to kill unreasonably and without motive. Many cases of assualt, rape, robbey and murder are traced to the use of marihuana.'128 The evil dimensions of this drug were becoming clear: once used only by Mexicans, it was now spreading to black and lower-class whites and turning them into drug-crazed criminals. In 1937 another revenue bill, the Marihuana Tax Act, became law. This placed an extremely high tax on the drug, and responsibility for the law's enforcement was assigned to the Bureau of Narcotics. Another class of criminal was created. " ============ Woah, I thought this was very interesting...the process by which marijuana and those who use it became demonized and criminalized. Note the racial overtones. This seems to be a theme with other drugs as well, but that will have to be another post. I feel that my original assertion, that marijuana should be legalized and that it is less harmful than our legal drugs alcohol and tobacco, is validated, on even more grounds than I originally claimed. Truly, I do not have the time now, but the analysis of alcohol in this same text shows that it has much more harmful effects and does have correlations with voilent crimes such as murder and rape. Later, Hicks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 > > H. said, > > >In my mind marijuana certainly should be legal. It is much less > > >harmful any way you look at it than alcohol. > > Anne said, > > And the evidence for this? The following evidence is not in the form of a study, but the conclusions reached in my Sociology text, " Deviant Behavior: Crime, Conflict and Interest Groups, " by H. McCaghy, A. Capron and J.D. son. This is a source I trust and if anyone is interested in the footnoted information I will provide it. p. 317. " The long-term impact of marijuana use on the human system is yet unknown. The Institute of Medicine assembled a committee to analyze the existing evidence about its health hazards. Although committee members concluded that the drug's use " justifies serious national concern, " they also pointed out great areas of ignorance about its effects. In any case, most negative effects were linked to long-term, heavy use. Among the committee's findings were the following: 1. There is no conclusive evidence that prolonged marijuana use causes permanent changes in the nervous system or in brain functions. 2. While there is evidence that heavy usage is linked with mental disorders, it is unknown whether the usage is a cause or a result of the disorders. 3. While there is evidence that smoking marijuana causes acute changes in the heart and in circulation, there is no evidence of long-term effects on the system. 4. There is evidence that heavy smoking of marijuana, like heavy tobacco smoking, may be linked with cancer of the lungs and respiratory tract. 5. There is no conclusive evidence that a mother's use of marijuana can harm the human fetus. 6. There is no conclusive evidence that using the drug impairs the body's immunity system. 7. The body does build tolerance for marijuana and mild withdrawal symptoms do occur: restlessness, irritability, mild agitation, and insomnia. But there is no evidence of " compulsive behavior to acquire the drug " or of other indicators of " addictions. " Thus, despite the committee's concern, one must conclude from its report that marijuana is less dangerous to the user than are the legal drugs of alcohol and tobacco. <snip to next secion> Marijuana Use and Deviance From what we have said about marijuana, it appears that, at worst, its known physiological hazards rank lower than do those of alcohol and tobacco. Of course, there are hazards from the drug: driving an automobile under its influence is dangerous because it impairs coordination and reaction time. We also know that regular users--20 or more times in 30 days--tend to do poorly in school because they are absent more frequently than are irregular users or nonusers.120 The cause-effect relationship is not clear, however. Perhaps those who skip class are more likely to be frequent users rather than vice versa. Do these kinds of problems warrant making the drug illegal? Or are we missing something? For example, is marijuana linked to other crimes: homicide, rape, and so on? According to the National Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse, * " The only crimes which can be directly attributed to marihuana-using behavior are those resulting from the use, possession or transfer of an illegal substance " * [emphasis in the text]121 In short, the crimes stemming from marijuana are the same crimes that would stem from butter it if were made illegal. But marijuana leads to the use of heroin and other dangerous drugs, doesn't it? The Bureau of Narcotics certainly thought so. In its 1965 publication, subtly entitled 'Living Death: The Truth About Drug Addiction,' it claimed that 'it cannot be too strongly emphasized that the smoking of the marijuana cigarette is a dangerous first step on the road which usually leads to enslavement by heroin...*Most* teenaged addicts started smoking marijuana cigarettes. *Never let anyone persuade you to smoke even one marijuana cigarette. It is pure poison.* " 122' There is no question that studies comparing marijuana users with nonusers find that users are more likely to use heroin. But it is one thing to say that persons who use marijuana are more likely to try heroin; it is quite another thing to say that marijuana use leads to heroin use. It must be recognized that coffee drinkers, aspirin takers, tobacco smokers, and alcohol drinkers are all more likely to use illegal drugs than are noncoffee drinkers, nonaspirin takers, and so on. In fact, any user of any drug, legal or illegal, is more likely than a nonuser to use any other drug.123 As h Goode puts it, 'individuals who use drugs tend to be selectively recruited from segments of the population tha tare already oriented toward the use of drugs. In this sense, there is a kind of drug-taking " disposition. " Thus, even before we examine whether the effects of marijuana per se have anything to do with " causing " the use of more dangerous drugs, it is necessary to start with the question of whether the population characteristics of those who use marijuana might be correlated with those of individuals who use other drugs, to see whether dangerous drug users might not be selectively recruited out of the larger marijuana-using group.'124 Goode also points out that the criminal status of marijuana also isolates users to some degree from conventional society and incorporates them into a drug-taking subculture with its own particular norms and verbalized motives supporting all kinds of drug-taking. It is possible, he suggests, that removing the illegal status of marijuana might decrease the number of persons turning to heroin because it would neutralize the influence of the criminal drug-taking subculture. " ========== There is another section called " Marijuana and Conflict " but I will summarize, rather than typing verbatim. Marijuana was not included in the on Act of 1914 which put opiates and cocaine under strict control. The pharmaceutical industry objected because it was used in animal medicines and corn plasters. However, fears about it did build, especially because of Mexican migrant laborers that were coming to California. " The problem of marijuana and the problem of Mexican immigration became one. " [ok, typing verbatim again...this is really interesting!] " Political pressure for the federal prohibition of marijuana grew as its presumed link with race and crime was increasingly publicized. The racial element is illustrated by this excerpt from a 1936 letter from a Colorado newspaper editor to the Bureau of Narcotics: 'Is there any assistance your Bureau can give us in handling this drug?...I wish I could show you what a small marijuana cigarette can do to one of our degenerate Spanish-speaking residents. That's why our problem is so great: The greatest percentage of our population is composed of Spanish-speaking persons, most of whom are low mentally, because of social and racial conditions. While marijuana has figured in the greatest number of crimes in the past few years, officials fear it, not for what it has done, but for what it is capable of doing. They want to check it before an outbreak occurs.'127 In addition to marijuana's association with a powerless minority group, myths about the drug causing violent and perverted crimes were considerably elaborated. By 1936, for example, 68 percent of all crimes committed in New Orleans were attributed to marijuana users. A propaganda campaign was launched with the support of the Bureau of Narcotics to warn the public about the 'Marijuana Menace' and its role as a 'Killer Drug.' An illustrated poster was prepared for trains, buses, and streetcars: 'BEWARE! Young and old people in all walks of life! This marihuana cigarette may be handed to YOU by the *friendly stranger.* It contains the Killer Drug Marihuana in which lurks MURDER! INSANITY! DEATH!--WARNING! Dope Peddlers are shrewd! They may put some of this drug in the teapot or in the cocktail or in the tobacco cigarette.' The stream of misinformation about the drug is exemplified by this excerpt froma pamphlet issued by the International Narcotic Education Association: 'Prolonged use of marihuana frequently develops a delirious rage which sometimes leads to high crimes, such as assult and murder. Hence marihuana has been called the 'killer drug.' The habitual use of this narcotic poison always causes a very marked mental deterioration and sometimes produces insanity...While the marihuana habit leads to physical wreckage and mental decay, its effects upon character and morality are even more devastation. The victim frequently undergoes such degeneracy that he will lie and steal without scruple; he becomes utterly untrustworthy...Marihuana sometimes gives man the lust to kill unreasonably and without motive. Many cases of assualt, rape, robbey and murder are traced to the use of marihuana.'128 The evil dimensions of this drug were becoming clear: once used only by Mexicans, it was now spreading to black and lower-class whites and turning them into drug-crazed criminals. In 1937 another revenue bill, the Marihuana Tax Act, became law. This placed an extremely high tax on the drug, and responsibility for the law's enforcement was assigned to the Bureau of Narcotics. Another class of criminal was created. " ============ Woah, I thought this was very interesting...the process by which marijuana and those who use it became demonized and criminalized. Note the racial overtones. This seems to be a theme with other drugs as well, but that will have to be another post. I feel that my original assertion, that marijuana should be legalized and that it is less harmful than our legal drugs alcohol and tobacco, is validated, on even more grounds than I originally claimed. Truly, I do not have the time now, but the analysis of alcohol in this same text shows that it has much more harmful effects and does have correlations with voilent crimes such as murder and rape. Later, Hicks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 > > Drug warriors lie. Always have, and still do. > > Finally -- and this really burns my butt -- the DEA has published a manual > and conducts workshops on how to debate against anti-prohibitionists, aka > " legalizers. " Think about that: your tax dollars are being spent by a > federal agency to advocate a particular political point of view in the public > square. How would people feel if HHS funded publications and seminars on how > to make abortion illegal? Or if the Dept of Education published tracts > against charter schools or school vouchers? > > What the DEA is doing is absolutely outrageous. They are spending our money > to advise people as to how to defeat and argue against our political views. > There oughta be a law....Actually, there is. > > --Mona-- Hi Mona, GRRRRRRRRR! I am feeling the first faint stirrings of activism coming on. Between this and the article posted, it looks like we are in for more of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 > > Drug warriors lie. Always have, and still do. > > Finally -- and this really burns my butt -- the DEA has published a manual > and conducts workshops on how to debate against anti-prohibitionists, aka > " legalizers. " Think about that: your tax dollars are being spent by a > federal agency to advocate a particular political point of view in the public > square. How would people feel if HHS funded publications and seminars on how > to make abortion illegal? Or if the Dept of Education published tracts > against charter schools or school vouchers? > > What the DEA is doing is absolutely outrageous. They are spending our money > to advise people as to how to defeat and argue against our political views. > There oughta be a law....Actually, there is. > > --Mona-- Hi Mona, GRRRRRRRRR! I am feeling the first faint stirrings of activism coming on. Between this and the article posted, it looks like we are in for more of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 Thanks for the lengthy quotations, (which I will snip). Thanks, too, for vindicating me for my remark to Annie that her initial question was framed in the context of whether or not MJ should be legal. She denied this, and I replied that I would not search every one of her posts to find out how she had contradicted herself, but, hey! There it is. > > > > H. said, > > > >In my mind marijuana certainly should be legal. It is much less > > > >harmful any way you look at it than alcohol. > > > > Anne said, > > > And the evidence for this? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 Thanks for the lengthy quotations, (which I will snip). Thanks, too, for vindicating me for my remark to Annie that her initial question was framed in the context of whether or not MJ should be legal. She denied this, and I replied that I would not search every one of her posts to find out how she had contradicted herself, but, hey! There it is. > > > > H. said, > > > >In my mind marijuana certainly should be legal. It is much less > > > >harmful any way you look at it than alcohol. > > > > Anne said, > > > And the evidence for this? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 > Thanks for the lengthy quotations, (which I will snip). Thanks, > too, for vindicating me for my remark to Annie that her initial > question was framed in the context of whether or not MJ should be > legal. She denied this, and I replied that I would not search every > one of her posts to find out how she had contradicted herself, but, > hey! There it is. Hi Kayleighs, You're welcome. Here is even more information about MJ. I picked up a book from the library titled: " Why Marijuana Should Be Legal, " by Ed Rosenthal and Steve Kubby. I am still reading this wonderful little book, but here is a quote from page one. " Before we make a reasoned decision about marijuana, we should weigh the effects marijuana has on society against the effects the marijuana laws have. If marijuana is more harmful to society than the laws, then the laws should be retained. If the laws are more harmful than the substance, the laws should be changed. " IMO, you could put just about any substance into this equasion for purposes of evaluation and come up with better solutions than our society currently has. I also liked a bumper sticker they quoted: Free or Drug-Free: You Can't Have Both. TTYL, Hicks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 > Thanks for the lengthy quotations, (which I will snip). Thanks, > too, for vindicating me for my remark to Annie that her initial > question was framed in the context of whether or not MJ should be > legal. She denied this, and I replied that I would not search every > one of her posts to find out how she had contradicted herself, but, > hey! There it is. Hi Kayleighs, You're welcome. Here is even more information about MJ. I picked up a book from the library titled: " Why Marijuana Should Be Legal, " by Ed Rosenthal and Steve Kubby. I am still reading this wonderful little book, but here is a quote from page one. " Before we make a reasoned decision about marijuana, we should weigh the effects marijuana has on society against the effects the marijuana laws have. If marijuana is more harmful to society than the laws, then the laws should be retained. If the laws are more harmful than the substance, the laws should be changed. " IMO, you could put just about any substance into this equasion for purposes of evaluation and come up with better solutions than our society currently has. I also liked a bumper sticker they quoted: Free or Drug-Free: You Can't Have Both. TTYL, Hicks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 .. I also liked a bumper sticker they quoted: Free or Drug-Free: You Can't Have Both I want that. Badly. --Mona-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 .. I also liked a bumper sticker they quoted: Free or Drug-Free: You Can't Have Both I want that. Badly. --Mona-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 .. I also liked a bumper sticker they quoted: Free or Drug-Free: You Can't Have Both I want that. Badly. --Mona-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 What you say is exactly what I wanted to say to a friend I had lunch with today, except you have said it so much better. He says that (as a Legal Aid lawyer) he has seen the pieces that the feds have to pick up and if marijuana were legalized, it would be that much worse. My thought, which I didn't express at the time, was that the tab we taxpayers pick up now for the WOD is far more expensive than consequences of drug use could be, if it were legal. How elegant to say, " If marijuana is more harmful to society than the laws, then the laws should be retained. If the laws are more harmful than the substance, the laws should be changed. " This guy asserts that he believes the government should be our nanny. Yet he doesn't think that the government has any role in our sex lives, despite AIDS. Go figure. > > Thanks for the lengthy quotations, (which I will snip). > Thanks, > > too, for vindicating me for my remark to Annie that her initial > > question was framed in the context of whether or not MJ should be > > legal. She denied this, and I replied that I would not search every > > one of her posts to find out how she had contradicted herself, but, > > hey! There it is. > > Hi Kayleighs, > > You're welcome. Here is even more information about MJ. I picked up > a book from the library titled: " Why Marijuana Should Be Legal, " by > Ed Rosenthal and Steve Kubby. I am still reading this wonderful > little book, but here is a quote from page one. " Before we make a > reasoned decision about marijuana, we should weigh the effects > marijuana has on society against the effects the marijuana laws have. > If marijuana is more harmful to society than the laws, then the laws > should be retained. If the laws are more harmful than the substance, > the laws should be changed. " IMO, you could put just about any > substance into this equasion for purposes of evaluation and come up > with better solutions than our society currently has. I also liked a > bumper sticker they quoted: Free or Drug-Free: You Can't Have Both. > > TTYL, > Hicks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 > What you say is exactly what I wanted to say to a friend I had lunch > with today, except you have said it so much better. He says that (as > a Legal Aid lawyer) he has seen the pieces that the feds have to pick > up and if marijuana were legalized, it would be that much worse. My > thought, which I didn't express at the time, was that the tab we > taxpayers pick up now for the WOD is far more expensive than > consequences of drug use could be, if it were legal. How elegant to > say, " If marijuana is more harmful to society than the laws, then the > laws should be retained. If the laws are more harmful than the > substance, the laws should be changed. " Oh Kayleighs, You are making me blush...I only quoted someone else. It is nice though, and diffuses some of side issues and rhetoric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 > What you say is exactly what I wanted to say to a friend I had lunch > with today, except you have said it so much better. He says that (as > a Legal Aid lawyer) he has seen the pieces that the feds have to pick > up and if marijuana were legalized, it would be that much worse. My > thought, which I didn't express at the time, was that the tab we > taxpayers pick up now for the WOD is far more expensive than > consequences of drug use could be, if it were legal. How elegant to > say, " If marijuana is more harmful to society than the laws, then the > laws should be retained. If the laws are more harmful than the > substance, the laws should be changed. " Oh Kayleighs, You are making me blush...I only quoted someone else. It is nice though, and diffuses some of side issues and rhetoric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 I know you are quoting, but I feel good to have something I can say that is so much more elegant than what I could think up myself. > > What you say is exactly what I wanted to say to a friend I had lunch > > with today, except you have said it so much better. He says that > (as > > a Legal Aid lawyer) he has seen the pieces that the feds have to > pick > > up and if marijuana were legalized, it would be that much worse. My > > thought, which I didn't express at the time, was that the tab we > > taxpayers pick up now for the WOD is far more expensive than > > consequences of drug use could be, if it were legal. How elegant to > > say, " If marijuana is more harmful to society than the laws, then > the > > laws should be retained. If the laws are more harmful than the > > substance, the laws should be changed. " > > Oh Kayleighs, > > You are making me blush...I only quoted someone else. It is nice > though, and diffuses some of side issues and rhetoric. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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