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Kerry,

The trans cranial vault is the one to go with, it will catch it. My

Dominick was very low also and it covered it. He was 23mm TCV. The

skull base numbers will tell you how far the ears are out and the mid

face numbers will tell you about facial asymmetery. Hope that helps.

CAROLG

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> Hi everyone,

> we are taking Noah to a free eval at a Hanger place next week to

get

> his head assymetry measured. He is 10 mos. now and we are not

really

> interested in a band since it is very minor, but we just want to

see

> the numbers before we put the issue to rest. If they are worse

than we

> expect we could then decide to travel the distance to CT (San

> to Houston). I am confused about the different measurements. In

> looking at the site given on a previous post, the trans cranial

vault

> assymetry number is achieved by taking diagonal measurements from

> points on the sides of the head to points on the face. Noah's mild

> assymetry is only in the very back on the actual occipital bone,

not

> really visible from the very top of his head. So, it doesn't seem

this

> measurement would catch that. Do we want to look for a skull base

> assymetry number? I have heard this mentioned on some posts but it

was

> not mentioned on the site I referred to above. Any insight would

be

> appreciated.

> Kerry

>

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Kerry,

The trans cranial vault is the one to go with, it will catch it. My

Dominick was very low also and it covered it. He was 23mm TCV. The

skull base numbers will tell you how far the ears are out and the mid

face numbers will tell you about facial asymmetery. Hope that helps.

CAROLG

--- In Plagiocephaly , " kerrykink " <ronandkerry@s...>

wrote:

>

> Hi everyone,

> we are taking Noah to a free eval at a Hanger place next week to

get

> his head assymetry measured. He is 10 mos. now and we are not

really

> interested in a band since it is very minor, but we just want to

see

> the numbers before we put the issue to rest. If they are worse

than we

> expect we could then decide to travel the distance to CT (San

> to Houston). I am confused about the different measurements. In

> looking at the site given on a previous post, the trans cranial

vault

> assymetry number is achieved by taking diagonal measurements from

> points on the sides of the head to points on the face. Noah's mild

> assymetry is only in the very back on the actual occipital bone,

not

> really visible from the very top of his head. So, it doesn't seem

this

> measurement would catch that. Do we want to look for a skull base

> assymetry number? I have heard this mentioned on some posts but it

was

> not mentioned on the site I referred to above. Any insight would

be

> appreciated.

> Kerry

>

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I'm sorry, I'm still a little confused about what the "trans cranial vault"  measurement is.  I don't see where it is described on the Craiofacial Anthropometry page ( http://www.plagiocephaly.org/resources/anthropometry.htm ).  CT gave us a "Clinical Anthropometric Form" that included measurements for "Traditional  Cranial Vault Asym." (14) and "Cranial Vault Asym" (23).  Are either of these the "trans cranial vault" measurement?  Sorry if I'm being a little slow on this one.Thanks,andyOn Jan 10, 2006, at 8:31 AM, Carol G. wrote: Kerry, The trans cranial vault is the one to go with, it will catch it. My Dominick was very low also and it covered it. He was 23mm TCV. The skull base numbers will tell you how far the ears are out and the mid face numbers will tell you about facial asymmetery. Hope that helps.                         CAROLG > > Hi everyone, > we are taking Noah to a free eval at a Hanger place next week to get > his head assymetry measured.  He is 10 mos. now and we are not really > interested in a band since it is very minor, but we just want to see > the numbers before we put the issue to rest.  If they are worse than we > expect we could then decide to travel the distance to CT (San > to Houston).  I am confused about the different measurements.  In > looking at the site given on a previous post, the trans cranial vault > assymetry number is achieved by taking diagonal measurements from > points on the sides of the head to points on the face.  Noah's mild > assymetry is only in the very back on the actual occipital bone, not > really visible from the very top of his head.  So, it doesn't seem this > measurement would catch that.  Do we want to look for a skull base > assymetry number?  I have heard this mentioned on some posts but it was > not mentioned on the site I referred to above.  Any insight would be > appreciated. > Kerry > For more plagio info

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I'm sorry, I'm still a little confused about what the "trans cranial vault"  measurement is.  I don't see where it is described on the Craiofacial Anthropometry page ( http://www.plagiocephaly.org/resources/anthropometry.htm ).  CT gave us a "Clinical Anthropometric Form" that included measurements for "Traditional  Cranial Vault Asym." (14) and "Cranial Vault Asym" (23).  Are either of these the "trans cranial vault" measurement?  Sorry if I'm being a little slow on this one.Thanks,andyOn Jan 10, 2006, at 8:31 AM, Carol G. wrote: Kerry, The trans cranial vault is the one to go with, it will catch it. My Dominick was very low also and it covered it. He was 23mm TCV. The skull base numbers will tell you how far the ears are out and the mid face numbers will tell you about facial asymmetery. Hope that helps.                         CAROLG > > Hi everyone, > we are taking Noah to a free eval at a Hanger place next week to get > his head assymetry measured.  He is 10 mos. now and we are not really > interested in a band since it is very minor, but we just want to see > the numbers before we put the issue to rest.  If they are worse than we > expect we could then decide to travel the distance to CT (San > to Houston).  I am confused about the different measurements.  In > looking at the site given on a previous post, the trans cranial vault > assymetry number is achieved by taking diagonal measurements from > points on the sides of the head to points on the face.  Noah's mild > assymetry is only in the very back on the actual occipital bone, not > really visible from the very top of his head.  So, it doesn't seem this > measurement would catch that.  Do we want to look for a skull base > assymetry number?  I have heard this mentioned on some posts but it was > not mentioned on the site I referred to above.  Any insight would be > appreciated. > Kerry > For more plagio info

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Thanks ! Over the phone the woman said they would be doing

measurments. She said they use a scanner when actually making the

helments but that for the eval they measure the traditional way. I

guess I have a hard time understanding just how accurate these

measurements can be when your talking about a mild case, moving baby,

and differences of just a few millimeters? I have heard that the

numbers aren't the most important thing, it how it looks to me that's

important. But after studying his head so much I feel I really need

some numbers to verify (or not) what I am seeing.

Kerry

>

> Kerry,

> You may want to make sure they take measurements before you go.

Not

> everyone does. Or maybe they have a scanner?

>

>

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Thanks ! Over the phone the woman said they would be doing

measurments. She said they use a scanner when actually making the

helments but that for the eval they measure the traditional way. I

guess I have a hard time understanding just how accurate these

measurements can be when your talking about a mild case, moving baby,

and differences of just a few millimeters? I have heard that the

numbers aren't the most important thing, it how it looks to me that's

important. But after studying his head so much I feel I really need

some numbers to verify (or not) what I am seeing.

Kerry

>

> Kerry,

> You may want to make sure they take measurements before you go.

Not

> everyone does. Or maybe they have a scanner?

>

>

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