Re: Hi Krista I have a few questions for you

[Guest guest]

Leanne,

Did you see those pics in the photos section under the ruptured

silicone gel folder?

YOu can see how the ribs have indented from the implants.

I think this happens more often than we realize, and not just from

the weight of the implant, but the pressure.

Patty

>

> Hey stranger how are ya doing? I was wondering when you had your

> surgery done did the capsule stay intact all the way around your

> implant when she removed it?? When I had mine taken out he took the

> implant out first Not enbloc and then took the anterior capsule out

and

> said that my scar tissue was so paper thin on my chest wall that

he

> could see through it and there was ALLOT of bleeding when he tried

so

> he left it in place. I guess i am kind of worried about it. I

know

> that Patty and some others have said that if you do not get all of

the

> capsule out that you may continue to be sick. Also I was wondering

> after your explant could you really feel the pocket where the

implant

> use to sit?? I can feel mine it is like a round crater in my chest

and

> I am hoping that it will close eventually. I am pretty small up

top

> and thin you can really feel my ribs also around where the implant

used

> to sit. I was just curious if you could feel anything like that.

>

> Hugs Leanne

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Leanne- I know, it's been a couple of weeks since I've posted. The

holidays were busy, but now things are starting to calm down so I

should be able to post more.

I'm doing pretty good. I went off my strict diet for the holidays and

now I'm paying for it. I was feeling really good, now have the fatigue

and achiness is back. But, starting on the 1st I am going on the

really strict diet, so hopefully I start to feel better.

Let's see....yes, she took out my implant en bloc with the capsule

still intact. She had to make the scars slightly longer then before to

get the implants out whole. I've heard that some women continue to

feel ill if they don't get the capsule completely removed, but it

sounds like yours might be so thin and he got most of it that you will

probably be just fine...I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Regarding the pocket where the implant used to sit, I can't exactly

feel a pocket or anything like that, but I do have a rib that is

sticking out. It's only on the left side and it is on the inside of my

breast. It's kind of a pain because thats right where my bra comes

together in the middle and it pushes on the rib and hurts. There are a

few bras that I just can't wear. I'm hoping if I can gain some weight

then I'll get some more fat and maybe even breast tissue in that area

and the rib won't stick out so much. I'm thinking your pocket will

probably close back up with time. I bet everything in that area looks

a lot different in a year from now, so try to just be patient with

your body.

I wish we could compare to know if we are seeing the same thing. Maybe

I'll try to have my husband take a picture and send it to you so you

can see what I mean.

How have you been feeling? Have you noticed if your symptoms have

gotten any better?

Love, Krista

>

> Hey stranger how are ya doing? I was wondering when you had your

> surgery done did the capsule stay intact all the way around your

> implant when she removed it?? When I had mine taken out he took the

> implant out first Not enbloc and then took the anterior capsule out and

> said that my scar tissue was so paper thin on my chest wall that he

> could see through it and there was ALLOT of bleeding when he tried so

> he left it in place. I guess i am kind of worried about it. I know

> that Patty and some others have said that if you do not get all of the

> capsule out that you may continue to be sick. Also I was wondering

> after your explant could you really feel the pocket where the implant

> use to sit?? I can feel mine it is like a round crater in my chest and

> I am hoping that it will close eventually. I am pretty small up top

> and thin you can really feel my ribs also around where the implant used

> to sit. I was just curious if you could feel anything like that.

>

> Hugs Leanne

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Hey stranger how are ya doing? I was wondering when you had your

> > surgery done did the capsule stay intact all the way around your

> > implant when she removed it?? When I had mine taken out he took

the

> > implant out first Not enbloc and then took the anterior capsule

out and

> > said that my scar tissue was so paper thin on my chest wall that

he

> > could see through it and there was ALLOT of bleeding when he

tried so

> > he left it in place. I guess i am kind of worried about it. I

know

> > that Patty and some others have said that if you do not get all

of the

> > capsule out that you may continue to be sick. Also I was

wondering

> > after your explant could you really feel the pocket where the

implant

> > use to sit?? I can feel mine it is like a round crater in my

chest and

> > I am hoping that it will close eventually. I am pretty small up

top

> > and thin you can really feel my ribs also around where the

implant used

> > to sit. I was just curious if you could feel anything like that.

> >

> > Hugs Leanne

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Hey stranger how are ya doing? I was wondering when you had your

> > surgery done did the capsule stay intact all the way around your

> > implant when she removed it?? When I had mine taken out he took

the

> > implant out first Not enbloc and then took the anterior capsule

out and

> > said that my scar tissue was so paper thin on my chest wall that

he

> > could see through it and there was ALLOT of bleeding when he

tried so

> > he left it in place. I guess i am kind of worried about it. I

know

> > that Patty and some others have said that if you do not get all

of the

> > capsule out that you may continue to be sick. Also I was

wondering

> > after your explant could you really feel the pocket where the

implant

> > use to sit?? I can feel mine it is like a round crater in my

chest and

> > I am hoping that it will close eventually. I am pretty small up

top

> > and thin you can really feel my ribs also around where the

implant used

> > to sit. I was just curious if you could feel anything like that.

> >

> > Hugs Leanne

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Hey stranger how are ya doing? I was wondering when you had your

> > surgery done did the capsule stay intact all the way around your

> > implant when she removed it?? When I had mine taken out he took

the

> > implant out first Not enbloc and then took the anterior capsule

out

> and

> > said that my scar tissue was so paper thin on my chest wall that

> he

> > could see through it and there was ALLOT of bleeding when he

tried

> so

> > he left it in place. I guess i am kind of worried about it. I

> know

> > that Patty and some others have said that if you do not get all

of

> the

> > capsule out that you may continue to be sick. Also I was

wondering

> > after your explant could you really feel the pocket where the

> implant

> > use to sit?? I can feel mine it is like a round crater in my

chest

> and

> > I am hoping that it will close eventually. I am pretty small up

> top

> > and thin you can really feel my ribs also around where the

implant

> used

> > to sit. I was just curious if you could feel anything like that.

> >

> > Hugs Leanne

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Hey stranger how are ya doing? I was wondering when you had your

> > surgery done did the capsule stay intact all the way around your

> > implant when she removed it?? When I had mine taken out he took

the

> > implant out first Not enbloc and then took the anterior capsule

out

> and

> > said that my scar tissue was so paper thin on my chest wall that

> he

> > could see through it and there was ALLOT of bleeding when he

tried

> so

> > he left it in place. I guess i am kind of worried about it. I

> know

> > that Patty and some others have said that if you do not get all

of

> the

> > capsule out that you may continue to be sick. Also I was

wondering

> > after your explant could you really feel the pocket where the

> implant

> > use to sit?? I can feel mine it is like a round crater in my

chest

> and

> > I am hoping that it will close eventually. I am pretty small up

> top

> > and thin you can really feel my ribs also around where the

implant

> used

> > to sit. I was just curious if you could feel anything like that.

> >

> > Hugs Leanne

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Leanne,

Be sure you're wearing a snug sports bra. It will help keep fluids from accumulating in the pockets and will help the internal scar tissue support you.

It's pretty normal to feel down after explant when the symptoms don't suddenly go away. . . . It's likely that some of the fluids that were contained by the capsules were released into your body when your doctor removed part of the capsule before the implant. Your body will take time to process that garbage out. It's a shame your doctor didn't take your request seriously!

Please keep a journal of how you feel and what you're doing. You'll make progress, but it will be hard to see on a daily basis. . . Right now, monitoring how you feel on a weekly basis may show some progress.

And, regardless of how difficult it is right now, be sure to continue eating healthy. Your body needs the right materials to rebuild itself.

Hugs,

Rogene

Re: Hi Krista I have a few questions for you

> >> > Hey stranger how are ya doing? I was wondering when you had your > > surgery done did the capsule stay intact all the way around your > > implant when she

removed it?? When I had mine taken out he took the > > implant out first Not enbloc and then took the anterior capsule out and > > said that my scar tissue was so paper thin on my chest wall that he > > could see through it and there was ALLOT of bleeding when he tried so > > he left it in place. I guess i am kind of worried about it. I know > > that Patty and some others have said that if you do not get all of the > > capsule out that you may continue to be sick. Also I was wondering > > after your explant could you really feel the pocket where the implant > > use to sit?? I can feel mine it is like a round crater in my chest and > > I am hoping that it will close eventually. I am pretty small up top > > and thin you can really feel my ribs also around where the implant used > > to sit. I was just

curious if you could feel anything like that.> > > > Hugs Leanne> >>

[Guest guest]

Leanne,

Be sure you're wearing a snug sports bra. It will help keep fluids from accumulating in the pockets and will help the internal scar tissue support you.

It's pretty normal to feel down after explant when the symptoms don't suddenly go away. . . . It's likely that some of the fluids that were contained by the capsules were released into your body when your doctor removed part of the capsule before the implant. Your body will take time to process that garbage out. It's a shame your doctor didn't take your request seriously!

Please keep a journal of how you feel and what you're doing. You'll make progress, but it will be hard to see on a daily basis. . . Right now, monitoring how you feel on a weekly basis may show some progress.

And, regardless of how difficult it is right now, be sure to continue eating healthy. Your body needs the right materials to rebuild itself.

Hugs,

Rogene

Re: Hi Krista I have a few questions for you

> >> > Hey stranger how are ya doing? I was wondering when you had your > > surgery done did the capsule stay intact all the way around your > > implant when she

removed it?? When I had mine taken out he took the > > implant out first Not enbloc and then took the anterior capsule out and > > said that my scar tissue was so paper thin on my chest wall that he > > could see through it and there was ALLOT of bleeding when he tried so > > he left it in place. I guess i am kind of worried about it. I know > > that Patty and some others have said that if you do not get all of the > > capsule out that you may continue to be sick. Also I was wondering > > after your explant could you really feel the pocket where the implant > > use to sit?? I can feel mine it is like a round crater in my chest and > > I am hoping that it will close eventually. I am pretty small up top > > and thin you can really feel my ribs also around where the implant used > > to sit. I was just

curious if you could feel anything like that.> > > > Hugs Leanne> >>

[Guest guest]

> >Hi Krista

>

> I can kind of feel a slightly raised part of my rib on the outside

> area of (what is left of it) left breast. I have a feeling that it

> has maybe always been there but now that the positioning and shape

of

> my breasts are different i can feel it more now. Before implants

> when I would do breast exames I could always really feel ribs on my

> chest wall. I am not feeling any better at all thanks for asking.

> Maybe even a little worse. I have been feeling a little down. I was

> laying in bed last night and I had a few tears. I said to my

husband

> I just want to feel better. I want my old self back so much and it

> makes me sad. I think about not having the energy or health to do

> all the things I want to do with my kids like skiing and skating. I

> just really have to try to keep going. I hope your health continues

> to improve,It sounds like you are one the right track with your

diet.

> I think you are right about this pocket I feel I think over time it

> will probably fill in. I will ask my ps about it when I see him in

> two weeks.

>

> Love

> Leanne

>

> Hey Leanne- I know, it's been a couple of weeks since I've posted.

> The

> > holidays were busy, but now things are starting to calm down so I

> > should be able to post more.

> > I'm doing pretty good. I went off my strict diet for the holidays

> and

> > now I'm paying for it. I was feeling really good, now have the

> fatigue

> > and achiness is back. But, starting on the 1st I am going on the

> > really strict diet, so hopefully I start to feel better.

> > Let's see....yes, she took out my implant en bloc with the capsule

> > still intact. She had to make the scars slightly longer then

before

> to

> > get the implants out whole. I've heard that some women continue to

> > feel ill if they don't get the capsule completely removed, but it

> > sounds like yours might be so thin and he got most of it that you

> will

> > probably be just fine...I wouldn't worry too much about it.

> > Regarding the pocket where the implant used to sit, I can't

exactly

> > feel a pocket or anything like that, but I do have a rib that is

> > sticking out. It's only on the left side and it is on the inside

of

> my

> > breast. It's kind of a pain because thats right where my bra comes

> > together in the middle and it pushes on the rib and hurts. There

> are a

> > few bras that I just can't wear. I'm hoping if I can gain some

> weight

> > then I'll get some more fat and maybe even breast tissue in that

> area

> > and the rib won't stick out so much. I'm thinking your pocket will

> > probably close back up with time. I bet everything in that area

> looks

> > a lot different in a year from now, so try to just be patient with

> > your body.

> > I wish we could compare to know if we are seeing the same thing.

> Maybe

> > I'll try to have my husband take a picture and send it to you so

you

> > can see what I mean.

> > How have you been feeling? Have you noticed if your symptoms have

> > gotten any better?

> > Love, Krista

> >

> > --- In , " ljaager " <ljaager@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Hey stranger how are ya doing? I was wondering when you had

your

> > > surgery done did the capsule stay intact all the way around

your

> > > implant when she removed it?? When I had mine taken out he took

> the

> > > implant out first Not enbloc and then took the anterior capsule

> out and

> > > said that my scar tissue was so paper thin on my chest wall

that

> he

> > > could see through it and there was ALLOT of bleeding when he

> tried so

> > > he left it in place. I guess i am kind of worried about it. I

> know

> > > that Patty and some others have said that if you do not get all

> of the

> > > capsule out that you may continue to be sick. Also I was

> wondering

> > > after your explant could you really feel the pocket where the

> implant

> > > use to sit?? I can feel mine it is like a round crater in my

> chest and

> > > I am hoping that it will close eventually. I am pretty small up

> top

> > > and thin you can really feel my ribs also around where the

> implant used

> > > to sit. I was just curious if you could feel anything like that.

> > >

> > > Hugs Leanne

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> >Hi Krista

>

> I can kind of feel a slightly raised part of my rib on the outside

> area of (what is left of it) left breast. I have a feeling that it

> has maybe always been there but now that the positioning and shape

of

> my breasts are different i can feel it more now. Before implants

> when I would do breast exames I could always really feel ribs on my

> chest wall. I am not feeling any better at all thanks for asking.

> Maybe even a little worse. I have been feeling a little down. I was

> laying in bed last night and I had a few tears. I said to my

husband

> I just want to feel better. I want my old self back so much and it

> makes me sad. I think about not having the energy or health to do

> all the things I want to do with my kids like skiing and skating. I

> just really have to try to keep going. I hope your health continues

> to improve,It sounds like you are one the right track with your

diet.

> I think you are right about this pocket I feel I think over time it

> will probably fill in. I will ask my ps about it when I see him in

> two weeks.

>

> Love

> Leanne

>

> Hey Leanne- I know, it's been a couple of weeks since I've posted.

> The

> > holidays were busy, but now things are starting to calm down so I

> > should be able to post more.

> > I'm doing pretty good. I went off my strict diet for the holidays

> and

> > now I'm paying for it. I was feeling really good, now have the

> fatigue

> > and achiness is back. But, starting on the 1st I am going on the

> > really strict diet, so hopefully I start to feel better.

> > Let's see....yes, she took out my implant en bloc with the capsule

> > still intact. She had to make the scars slightly longer then

before

> to

> > get the implants out whole. I've heard that some women continue to

> > feel ill if they don't get the capsule completely removed, but it

> > sounds like yours might be so thin and he got most of it that you

> will

> > probably be just fine...I wouldn't worry too much about it.

> > Regarding the pocket where the implant used to sit, I can't

exactly

> > feel a pocket or anything like that, but I do have a rib that is

> > sticking out. It's only on the left side and it is on the inside

of

> my

> > breast. It's kind of a pain because thats right where my bra comes

> > together in the middle and it pushes on the rib and hurts. There

> are a

> > few bras that I just can't wear. I'm hoping if I can gain some

> weight

> > then I'll get some more fat and maybe even breast tissue in that

> area

> > and the rib won't stick out so much. I'm thinking your pocket will

> > probably close back up with time. I bet everything in that area

> looks

> > a lot different in a year from now, so try to just be patient with

> > your body.

> > I wish we could compare to know if we are seeing the same thing.

> Maybe

> > I'll try to have my husband take a picture and send it to you so

you

> > can see what I mean.

> > How have you been feeling? Have you noticed if your symptoms have

> > gotten any better?

> > Love, Krista

> >

> > --- In , " ljaager " <ljaager@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Hey stranger how are ya doing? I was wondering when you had

your

> > > surgery done did the capsule stay intact all the way around

your

> > > implant when she removed it?? When I had mine taken out he took

> the

> > > implant out first Not enbloc and then took the anterior capsule

> out and

> > > said that my scar tissue was so paper thin on my chest wall

that

> he

> > > could see through it and there was ALLOT of bleeding when he

> tried so

> > > he left it in place. I guess i am kind of worried about it. I

> know

> > > that Patty and some others have said that if you do not get all

> of the

> > > capsule out that you may continue to be sick. Also I was

> wondering

> > > after your explant could you really feel the pocket where the

> implant

> > > use to sit?? I can feel mine it is like a round crater in my

> chest and

> > > I am hoping that it will close eventually. I am pretty small up

> top

> > > and thin you can really feel my ribs also around where the

> implant used

> > > to sit. I was just curious if you could feel anything like that.

> > >

> > > Hugs Leanne

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Leanne- Yeah, I was wondering if my ribs have always been that way

too, but I am just now noticing it because of the lack of breast

tissue and also the little breast that I do have is now positioned

more off to the side then it was before, making my ribs more prominent

and noticeable.

I'm so sorry to hear that you are feeling worse. I felt worse right

after my surgery too. For about the first 4 weeks right after I felt

horrible and cried a lot too. But, I started feeling slightly better

at about week 4. I think changing my diet and doing the round of

caprylic acid really helped. Are you doing any type of detox or diet

change? Are you going to try and see a Naturopath? Those things can

all be helpful. Let me know if I can help with giving you ideas on

where to start with detox. There are some simple things that you can

do to start out that don't cost a lot.

I totally understand about wanting your life back. I am in the same

boat...so tired of being tired and sick all the time!! It's been

almost a year for me now and I'm so ready to be back to the old

Krista. We'll get there though, it just takes patience and dedication

to getting there!

Love, Krista

> > >

> > > Hey stranger how are ya doing? I was wondering when you had your

> > > surgery done did the capsule stay intact all the way around your

> > > implant when she removed it?? When I had mine taken out he took

> the

> > > implant out first Not enbloc and then took the anterior capsule

> out and

> > > said that my scar tissue was so paper thin on my chest wall that

> he

> > > could see through it and there was ALLOT of bleeding when he

> tried so

> > > he left it in place. I guess i am kind of worried about it. I

> know

> > > that Patty and some others have said that if you do not get all

> of the

> > > capsule out that you may continue to be sick. Also I was

> wondering

> > > after your explant could you really feel the pocket where the

> implant

> > > use to sit?? I can feel mine it is like a round crater in my

> chest and

> > > I am hoping that it will close eventually. I am pretty small up

> top

> > > and thin you can really feel my ribs also around where the

> implant used

> > > to sit. I was just curious if you could feel anything like that.

> > >

> > > Hugs Leanne

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Leanne- Yeah, I was wondering if my ribs have always been that way

too, but I am just now noticing it because of the lack of breast

tissue and also the little breast that I do have is now positioned

more off to the side then it was before, making my ribs more prominent

and noticeable.

I'm so sorry to hear that you are feeling worse. I felt worse right

after my surgery too. For about the first 4 weeks right after I felt

horrible and cried a lot too. But, I started feeling slightly better

at about week 4. I think changing my diet and doing the round of

caprylic acid really helped. Are you doing any type of detox or diet

change? Are you going to try and see a Naturopath? Those things can

all be helpful. Let me know if I can help with giving you ideas on

where to start with detox. There are some simple things that you can

do to start out that don't cost a lot.

I totally understand about wanting your life back. I am in the same

boat...so tired of being tired and sick all the time!! It's been

almost a year for me now and I'm so ready to be back to the old

Krista. We'll get there though, it just takes patience and dedication

to getting there!

Love, Krista

> > >

> > > Hey stranger how are ya doing? I was wondering when you had your

> > > surgery done did the capsule stay intact all the way around your

> > > implant when she removed it?? When I had mine taken out he took

> the

> > > implant out first Not enbloc and then took the anterior capsule

> out and

> > > said that my scar tissue was so paper thin on my chest wall that

> he

> > > could see through it and there was ALLOT of bleeding when he

> tried so

> > > he left it in place. I guess i am kind of worried about it. I

> know

> > > that Patty and some others have said that if you do not get all

> of the

> > > capsule out that you may continue to be sick. Also I was

> wondering

> > > after your explant could you really feel the pocket where the

> implant

> > > use to sit?? I can feel mine it is like a round crater in my

> chest and

> > > I am hoping that it will close eventually. I am pretty small up

> top

> > > and thin you can really feel my ribs also around where the

> implant used

> > > to sit. I was just curious if you could feel anything like that.

> > >

> > > Hugs Leanne

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Leanne,

Hopefully you will be feeling better by March . . .

Right now, getting those toxins out of your body is important . . . I know you're into eating healthy, etc. . . but I forget what else you're doing.

Maybe we can help you come up with some ways to get that stuff out - whether it wants to come out or not!

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Leanne,

Hopefully you will be feeling better by March . . .

Right now, getting those toxins out of your body is important . . . I know you're into eating healthy, etc. . . but I forget what else you're doing.

Maybe we can help you come up with some ways to get that stuff out - whether it wants to come out or not!

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

> > >Hi Krista

> >

> > I can kind of feel a slightly raised part of my rib on the

outside

> > area of (what is left of it) left breast. I have a feeling that

it

> > has maybe always been there but now that the positioning and

shape of

> > my breasts are different i can feel it more now. Before implants

> > when I would do breast exames I could always really feel ribs

on my

> > chest wall. I am not feeling any better at all thanks for

asking.

> > Maybe even a little worse. I have been feeling a little down. I

was

> > laying in bed last night and I had a few tears. I said to my

husband

> > I just want to feel better. I want my old self back so much and

it

> > makes me sad. I think about not having the energy or health to

do

> > all the things I want to do with my kids like skiing and

skating. I

> > just really have to try to keep going. I hope your health

continues

> > to improve,It sounds like you are one the right track with your

diet.

> > I think you are right about this pocket I feel I think over time

it

> > will probably fill in. I will ask my ps about it when I see him

in

> > two weeks.

> >

> > Love

> > Leanne

> >

> >

> >

> > Hey Leanne- I know, it's been a couple of weeks since I've

posted.

> > The

> > > holidays were busy, but now things are starting to calm down so

I

> > > should be able to post more.

> > > I'm doing pretty good. I went off my strict diet for the

holidays

> > and

> > > now I'm paying for it. I was feeling really good, now have the

> > fatigue

> > > and achiness is back. But, starting on the 1st I am going on the

> > > really strict diet, so hopefully I start to feel better.

> > > Let's see....yes, she took out my implant en bloc with the

capsule

> > > still intact. She had to make the scars slightly longer then

before

> > to

> > > get the implants out whole. I've heard that some women continue

to

> > > feel ill if they don't get the capsule completely removed, but

it

> > > sounds like yours might be so thin and he got most of it that

you

> > will

> > > probably be just fine...I wouldn't worry too much about it.

> > > Regarding the pocket where the implant used to sit, I can't

exactly

> > > feel a pocket or anything like that, but I do have a rib that is

> > > sticking out. It's only on the left side and it is on the

inside of

> > my

> > > breast. It's kind of a pain because thats right where my bra

comes

> > > together in the middle and it pushes on the rib and hurts.

There

> > are a

> > > few bras that I just can't wear. I'm hoping if I can gain some

> > weight

> > > then I'll get some more fat and maybe even breast tissue in

that

> > area

> > > and the rib won't stick out so much. I'm thinking your pocket

will

> > > probably close back up with time. I bet everything in that area

> > looks

> > > a lot different in a year from now, so try to just be patient

with

> > > your body.

> > > I wish we could compare to know if we are seeing the same

thing.

> > Maybe

> > > I'll try to have my husband take a picture and send it to you

so you

> > > can see what I mean.

> > > How have you been feeling? Have you noticed if your symptoms

have

> > > gotten any better?

> > > Love, Krista

> > >

> > > --- In , " ljaager " <ljaager@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hey stranger how are ya doing? I was wondering when you had

your

> > > > surgery done did the capsule stay intact all the way around

your

> > > > implant when she removed it?? When I had mine taken out he

took

> > the

> > > > implant out first Not enbloc and then took the anterior

capsule

> > out and

> > > > said that my scar tissue was so paper thin on my chest wall

that

> > he

> > > > could see through it and there was ALLOT of bleeding when he

> > tried so

> > > > he left it in place. I guess i am kind of worried about it.

I

> > know

> > > > that Patty and some others have said that if you do not get

all

> > of the

> > > > capsule out that you may continue to be sick. Also I was

> > wondering

> > > > after your explant could you really feel the pocket where the

> > implant

> > > > use to sit?? I can feel mine it is like a round crater in my

> > chest and

> > > > I am hoping that it will close eventually. I am pretty small

up

> > top

> > > > and thin you can really feel my ribs also around where the

> > implant used

> > > > to sit. I was just curious if you could feel anything like

that.

> > > >

> > > > Hugs Leanne

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> > >Hi Krista

> >

> > I can kind of feel a slightly raised part of my rib on the

outside

> > area of (what is left of it) left breast. I have a feeling that

it

> > has maybe always been there but now that the positioning and

shape of

> > my breasts are different i can feel it more now. Before implants

> > when I would do breast exames I could always really feel ribs

on my

> > chest wall. I am not feeling any better at all thanks for

asking.

> > Maybe even a little worse. I have been feeling a little down. I

was

> > laying in bed last night and I had a few tears. I said to my

husband

> > I just want to feel better. I want my old self back so much and

it

> > makes me sad. I think about not having the energy or health to

do

> > all the things I want to do with my kids like skiing and

skating. I

> > just really have to try to keep going. I hope your health

continues

> > to improve,It sounds like you are one the right track with your

diet.

> > I think you are right about this pocket I feel I think over time

it

> > will probably fill in. I will ask my ps about it when I see him

in

> > two weeks.

> >

> > Love

> > Leanne

> >

> >

> >

> > Hey Leanne- I know, it's been a couple of weeks since I've

posted.

> > The

> > > holidays were busy, but now things are starting to calm down so

I

> > > should be able to post more.

> > > I'm doing pretty good. I went off my strict diet for the

holidays

> > and

> > > now I'm paying for it. I was feeling really good, now have the

> > fatigue

> > > and achiness is back. But, starting on the 1st I am going on the

> > > really strict diet, so hopefully I start to feel better.

> > > Let's see....yes, she took out my implant en bloc with the

capsule

> > > still intact. She had to make the scars slightly longer then

before

> > to

> > > get the implants out whole. I've heard that some women continue

to

> > > feel ill if they don't get the capsule completely removed, but

it

> > > sounds like yours might be so thin and he got most of it that

you

> > will

> > > probably be just fine...I wouldn't worry too much about it.

> > > Regarding the pocket where the implant used to sit, I can't

exactly

> > > feel a pocket or anything like that, but I do have a rib that is

> > > sticking out. It's only on the left side and it is on the

inside of

> > my

> > > breast. It's kind of a pain because thats right where my bra

comes

> > > together in the middle and it pushes on the rib and hurts.

There

> > are a

> > > few bras that I just can't wear. I'm hoping if I can gain some

> > weight

> > > then I'll get some more fat and maybe even breast tissue in

that

> > area

> > > and the rib won't stick out so much. I'm thinking your pocket

will

> > > probably close back up with time. I bet everything in that area

> > looks

> > > a lot different in a year from now, so try to just be patient

with

> > > your body.

> > > I wish we could compare to know if we are seeing the same

thing.

> > Maybe

> > > I'll try to have my husband take a picture and send it to you

so you

> > > can see what I mean.

> > > How have you been feeling? Have you noticed if your symptoms

have

> > > gotten any better?

> > > Love, Krista

> > >

> > > --- In , " ljaager " <ljaager@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hey stranger how are ya doing? I was wondering when you had

your

> > > > surgery done did the capsule stay intact all the way around

your

> > > > implant when she removed it?? When I had mine taken out he

took

> > the

> > > > implant out first Not enbloc and then took the anterior

capsule

> > out and

> > > > said that my scar tissue was so paper thin on my chest wall

that

> > he

> > > > could see through it and there was ALLOT of bleeding when he

> > tried so

> > > > he left it in place. I guess i am kind of worried about it.

I

> > know

> > > > that Patty and some others have said that if you do not get

all

> > of the

> > > > capsule out that you may continue to be sick. Also I was

> > wondering

> > > > after your explant could you really feel the pocket where the

> > implant

> > > > use to sit?? I can feel mine it is like a round crater in my

> > chest and

> > > > I am hoping that it will close eventually. I am pretty small

up

> > top

> > > > and thin you can really feel my ribs also around where the

> > implant used

> > > > to sit. I was just curious if you could feel anything like

that.

> > > >

> > > > Hugs Leanne

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Leanne- Yes, I think crying a lot is pretty common amongst all of us.

PH said she cried every day for months after her explant. It is very

emotionally draining to be dealing with body image plus the sickness

on top of everything else. Once you start to feel better, your

emotions should become more stabilized.

So, with diet in detox….in my opinion (and I think most will agree)

that diet is the single most important thing you can do for your body

right now. Your body is already working hard to try and detox itself,

so you want to be sure not to put any more chemicals and crap in your

body on top of the current toxic overload. Currently, a bunch of us

are on The Maker's Diet. Here is a little blurb that PH posted

recently on the diet:

• Phase One: Phase one lasts for fourteen days. During this phase,

high-starch foods such as potatoes, beans, pasta, bread, and legumes

are avoided, along with sugar and dairy products. Organic, grass-fed

meats, free-range poultry, and wild fish are allowed, as are most

vegetables, nuts and seeds, berries and citrus fruits, certain fats

and oils, and honey as a sweetener. In addition morning and evening

prayer, morning and evening exercise, vitamin supplementation, and a

strict bedtime of 10:30 p.m is followed. As well, one day a week is a

" partial fast day, " in which breakfast and lunch are omitted and only

an evening dinner is eaten.

• Phase Two: The next fourteen days continue the lifestyle makeover,

reintroducing a number of foods to the diet and continuing the healthy

lifestyle habits of phase one. Certain dairy products may be added to

the menu, along with peanut oil, certain beans and legumes, a number

of fruits, and stevia (sweet herb, a natural sugar substitute).

• Phase Three: The final phase of the forty-day plan continues to

build on the previous stages. Additional nuts, seeds, beans, and

legumes may be added to the diet, along with additional fruits,

grains, and maple syrup for sweetening. The other lifestyle changes

are continued.

This is a very strict diet, you can purchase the book on

http://www.half.ebay.com/

for a few dollars. Or check it out online at

http://www.makersdiet.com/publicsite/interstitial.aspx.

My ND said it was fine for me to be on this diet. However, if this is

too strict for you, I'd try first with cutting out the main food

allergies that people tend to have. Even if you've never had allergies

to these foods before, you may have developed them as so many others

with implant illness have. Try cutting out sugars, wheat and dairy. It

sounds impossible, but it's really not. Just concentrate on lots of

vegetables, eggs, organic meats (beef, chicken, fish, turkey, etc.,)

fruits, beans, nuts, brown rice, quinoa is a good substitute for

pasta. If you can, go to a health food store and get some foods

without gluten (wheat free,) they have bread and crackers that are

gluten free. You can also have goat milk products, these can also be

purchased at a health food store.

Then, I'd do the threelac candida test. Here is the link to that:

http://www.victorie-inc.us/Threelac_Candida_Free_Test.htm.

This will tell you whether or not you have a yeast overgrowth. Rogene

says that the majority of women who have gotten sick from implants

have a yeast overgrowth problem. This can really wreak havoc on your

body. If you find your do have this problem, then you need to get some

caprylic acid. This can be purchased at health food stores or online

and it is very affordable. You want to take 3600 milligrams for 3

weeks. This is usually 10 pills a day so you want to start off slow

and space them out throughout your day. On top of that, take a

probiotic which will bring good bacteria back to your body. You can

get probiotics through yogurt, kefir and sauerkraut. Also, you can

take a supplement to get your probiotic. I'm currently taking

Saccharomycin DF, but a lot of the ladies said that Primal Defense is

really good, http://www.gardenoflife.com/detail_primal_defense.shtml.

Next, if you can try and purchase an ionic foot bath. We found the

best price on these on ebay, here is the link,

http://stores.ebay.com/ionicfootbath-mfg57. You can get one for around

$200.00. Make sure you are taking a good multi-vitamin, and extra

calcium and magnesium since the foot baths draw out the good minerals too.

Then, you are going to detox through your skin, your bowels and your

urine, so any way that you can support these 3 is really going to

benefit you. For your urine, make sure you are drinking at least 100

ounces of water a day (with lemon.) For your bowels, get any fungal

overgrowth under control, make sure you are " going " at least once a

day, you want to be sure you are regular. If you aren't, a lot of the

ladies can make suggestions for you. I recommend a good digestive

enzyme….does wonders for you if you aren't regular! Colonics is also

good for the bowels, many women are doing that, though I haven't

jumped on that one yet!

For the skin, purchase a skin brush, here the link to one I found for

a few dollars,

http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1 & pid=5651 & at=0. Brush your

skin every day before you get in the shower. You want to brush your

limbs, your mid section, your back (if you can reach,) and you want to

brush towards your heart. This will help with lymphatic flow and

getting dead skin cells off your skin to help with detox through the

skin. Also, if you can….you want to sweat! A lot of women have

purchased the far infrared saunas. I can't afford to purchase one, so

I go down to the local gym and sit in the sauna….15 minutes, then

break, then another 15 minutes. Bikram (hot) yoga is also really good

for sweating.

I think it would be really good for you to see a Naturopath (ND.)

Definitely don't go back to the one you went to. You can't have a

doctor treat you if they don't believe in your illness! When I was

looking for an ND, I emailed mine first and let her know what my story

was to get a feel of how she would react about the implants. She

immediately starting doing research on what chemicals and toxins are

in implants, so she would know exactly what I am dealing with. I'd

say, that's a great doctor!

Oh, also try and cut out chemicals and toxins from your every day

life. Usually, we are able to detox these things out, but with the

overload we have now, it is much more difficult. I've switched all of

my cleaning products to natural. Target (do you guys have Target in

Canada?) had a great line called " Method. " Try installing a shower

filter to eliminate chlorine. No air fresheners, perfumes, scented

candles, dry cleaning, new

carpeting or furniture, fresh paint, tobacco smoke, etc.

Okay, this has gotten really long. But, that gives you some ideas on

where to start with detoxing. Of course, there are so many other ways

to detox from liver flushes (oh, also try to get some milk thistle to

take as well, this supports your liver while you are detoxing, since

the toxins are filtered through the kidney) chelation, coffee enemas,

fasting, etc. The other women can give you more info on those if you

are interested. Let me know if you have any questions!

Love, Krista

> > > > >

> > > > > Hey stranger how are ya doing? I was wondering when you had

> your

> > > > > surgery done did the capsule stay intact all the way around

> your

> > > > > implant when she removed it?? When I had mine taken out he

> took

> > > the

> > > > > implant out first Not enbloc and then took the anterior

> capsule

> > > out and

> > > > > said that my scar tissue was so paper thin on my chest wall

> that

> > > he

> > > > > could see through it and there was ALLOT of bleeding when he

> > > tried so

> > > > > he left it in place. I guess i am kind of worried about it.

> I

> > > know

> > > > > that Patty and some others have said that if you do not get

> all

> > > of the

> > > > > capsule out that you may continue to be sick. Also I was

> > > wondering

> > > > > after your explant could you really feel the pocket where the

> > > implant

> > > > > use to sit?? I can feel mine it is like a round crater in my

> > > chest and

> > > > > I am hoping that it will close eventually. I am pretty small

> up

> > > top

> > > > > and thin you can really feel my ribs also around where the

> > > implant used

> > > > > to sit. I was just curious if you could feel anything like

> that.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hugs Leanne

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Leanne- Yes, I think crying a lot is pretty common amongst all of us.

PH said she cried every day for months after her explant. It is very

emotionally draining to be dealing with body image plus the sickness

on top of everything else. Once you start to feel better, your

emotions should become more stabilized.

So, with diet in detox….in my opinion (and I think most will agree)

that diet is the single most important thing you can do for your body

right now. Your body is already working hard to try and detox itself,

so you want to be sure not to put any more chemicals and crap in your

body on top of the current toxic overload. Currently, a bunch of us

are on The Maker's Diet. Here is a little blurb that PH posted

recently on the diet:

• Phase One: Phase one lasts for fourteen days. During this phase,

high-starch foods such as potatoes, beans, pasta, bread, and legumes

are avoided, along with sugar and dairy products. Organic, grass-fed

meats, free-range poultry, and wild fish are allowed, as are most

vegetables, nuts and seeds, berries and citrus fruits, certain fats

and oils, and honey as a sweetener. In addition morning and evening

prayer, morning and evening exercise, vitamin supplementation, and a

strict bedtime of 10:30 p.m is followed. As well, one day a week is a

" partial fast day, " in which breakfast and lunch are omitted and only

an evening dinner is eaten.

• Phase Two: The next fourteen days continue the lifestyle makeover,

reintroducing a number of foods to the diet and continuing the healthy

lifestyle habits of phase one. Certain dairy products may be added to

the menu, along with peanut oil, certain beans and legumes, a number

of fruits, and stevia (sweet herb, a natural sugar substitute).

• Phase Three: The final phase of the forty-day plan continues to

build on the previous stages. Additional nuts, seeds, beans, and

legumes may be added to the diet, along with additional fruits,

grains, and maple syrup for sweetening. The other lifestyle changes

are continued.

This is a very strict diet, you can purchase the book on

http://www.half.ebay.com/

for a few dollars. Or check it out online at

http://www.makersdiet.com/publicsite/interstitial.aspx.

My ND said it was fine for me to be on this diet. However, if this is

too strict for you, I'd try first with cutting out the main food

allergies that people tend to have. Even if you've never had allergies

to these foods before, you may have developed them as so many others

with implant illness have. Try cutting out sugars, wheat and dairy. It

sounds impossible, but it's really not. Just concentrate on lots of

vegetables, eggs, organic meats (beef, chicken, fish, turkey, etc.,)

fruits, beans, nuts, brown rice, quinoa is a good substitute for

pasta. If you can, go to a health food store and get some foods

without gluten (wheat free,) they have bread and crackers that are

gluten free. You can also have goat milk products, these can also be

purchased at a health food store.

Then, I'd do the threelac candida test. Here is the link to that:

http://www.victorie-inc.us/Threelac_Candida_Free_Test.htm.

This will tell you whether or not you have a yeast overgrowth. Rogene

says that the majority of women who have gotten sick from implants

have a yeast overgrowth problem. This can really wreak havoc on your

body. If you find your do have this problem, then you need to get some

caprylic acid. This can be purchased at health food stores or online

and it is very affordable. You want to take 3600 milligrams for 3

weeks. This is usually 10 pills a day so you want to start off slow

and space them out throughout your day. On top of that, take a

probiotic which will bring good bacteria back to your body. You can

get probiotics through yogurt, kefir and sauerkraut. Also, you can

take a supplement to get your probiotic. I'm currently taking

Saccharomycin DF, but a lot of the ladies said that Primal Defense is

really good, http://www.gardenoflife.com/detail_primal_defense.shtml.

Next, if you can try and purchase an ionic foot bath. We found the

best price on these on ebay, here is the link,

http://stores.ebay.com/ionicfootbath-mfg57. You can get one for around

$200.00. Make sure you are taking a good multi-vitamin, and extra

calcium and magnesium since the foot baths draw out the good minerals too.

Then, you are going to detox through your skin, your bowels and your

urine, so any way that you can support these 3 is really going to

benefit you. For your urine, make sure you are drinking at least 100

ounces of water a day (with lemon.) For your bowels, get any fungal

overgrowth under control, make sure you are " going " at least once a

day, you want to be sure you are regular. If you aren't, a lot of the

ladies can make suggestions for you. I recommend a good digestive

enzyme….does wonders for you if you aren't regular! Colonics is also

good for the bowels, many women are doing that, though I haven't

jumped on that one yet!

For the skin, purchase a skin brush, here the link to one I found for

a few dollars,

http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1 & pid=5651 & at=0. Brush your

skin every day before you get in the shower. You want to brush your

limbs, your mid section, your back (if you can reach,) and you want to

brush towards your heart. This will help with lymphatic flow and

getting dead skin cells off your skin to help with detox through the

skin. Also, if you can….you want to sweat! A lot of women have

purchased the far infrared saunas. I can't afford to purchase one, so

I go down to the local gym and sit in the sauna….15 minutes, then

break, then another 15 minutes. Bikram (hot) yoga is also really good

for sweating.

I think it would be really good for you to see a Naturopath (ND.)

Definitely don't go back to the one you went to. You can't have a

doctor treat you if they don't believe in your illness! When I was

looking for an ND, I emailed mine first and let her know what my story

was to get a feel of how she would react about the implants. She

immediately starting doing research on what chemicals and toxins are

in implants, so she would know exactly what I am dealing with. I'd

say, that's a great doctor!

Oh, also try and cut out chemicals and toxins from your every day

life. Usually, we are able to detox these things out, but with the

overload we have now, it is much more difficult. I've switched all of

my cleaning products to natural. Target (do you guys have Target in

Canada?) had a great line called " Method. " Try installing a shower

filter to eliminate chlorine. No air fresheners, perfumes, scented

candles, dry cleaning, new

carpeting or furniture, fresh paint, tobacco smoke, etc.

Okay, this has gotten really long. But, that gives you some ideas on

where to start with detoxing. Of course, there are so many other ways

to detox from liver flushes (oh, also try to get some milk thistle to

take as well, this supports your liver while you are detoxing, since

the toxins are filtered through the kidney) chelation, coffee enemas,

fasting, etc. The other women can give you more info on those if you

are interested. Let me know if you have any questions!

Love, Krista

> > > > >

> > > > > Hey stranger how are ya doing? I was wondering when you had

> your

> > > > > surgery done did the capsule stay intact all the way around

> your

> > > > > implant when she removed it?? When I had mine taken out he

> took

> > > the

> > > > > implant out first Not enbloc and then took the anterior

> capsule

> > > out and

> > > > > said that my scar tissue was so paper thin on my chest wall

> that

> > > he

> > > > > could see through it and there was ALLOT of bleeding when he

> > > tried so

> > > > > he left it in place. I guess i am kind of worried about it.

> I

> > > know

> > > > > that Patty and some others have said that if you do not get

> all

> > > of the

> > > > > capsule out that you may continue to be sick. Also I was

> > > wondering

> > > > > after your explant could you really feel the pocket where the

> > > implant

> > > > > use to sit?? I can feel mine it is like a round crater in my

> > > chest and

> > > > > I am hoping that it will close eventually. I am pretty small

> up

> > > top

> > > > > and thin you can really feel my ribs also around where the

> > > implant used

> > > > > to sit. I was just curious if you could feel anything like

> that.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hugs Leanne

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Wow, Leanne. Did Krista give you a thorough response or what?! She

has it all in there! Yes, I cried every day for months because it

was so hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel. But, the

crying has been less and less over time...even though I admit I cried

today because in the back of my mind I was somehow hoping that I'd

wake up in 2008 miraculously healed! But, EVERYONE on the forum says

it just takes time. When I feel scared or hopeless I read this post

below by . She was extremely ill and was then able to write

this after lots of detoxing. It cheers me up every time! Love, PH

From: JOSEPH PALANCA

; Pam ; Larena ; rach679@... Mucha

Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 1:30 AM

Subject: health improvement

All my sisters, I was lying in bed, and had to post this message. I

have been feeling steadier more well as the days come and go, for

these last 6 months, that my hubby was asking when we can start

trying again. As you know, or not I have a 3 and a half year old son.

I told him to give me some more time. Maybe later the year of

2004....I am still recuperating , and want to cleanse more for the

health of our next child, and to give my poor body a true chance at

getting well. As much as my tummy tingles at babies....I have to stay

focused. Starting the 1st of this new year, I am planning a 2 to 3

week juicing fast (eliminating the greens) and daily enema's along

with liver flushes (Patty- I'll need you!) To clean up.

But I am posting this all, because I wanted to share my happiness! I

cant believe how much better I am feeling. It has been a year and 2

months since explant. I am really almost back to my old self again.

Except for a small amount of totally bearable joint pain left behind,

all my symptoms have slowly, by the grace of God been going away. As

you all know, I was very ill, and thought there was no way I would

ever feel this good. I knew God would heal me, in some ways, but

never like this!

For a while, I did have some new symptoms come up, and then go away

after explant. And still- some hormonal issues I am balancing (wacked

adrenals, hmmm...wonder why? and also some estrogen dominance)

But still, all and all, I feel great! I sleep better, have a better

appetite , I am finally losing weight (but still so slowly, that's ok

though) have a better mood, can think straight, no more headaches, no

more neck pain, no more scary muscle twitchings into the night, no

more viral issues like I used to have, no more yeast infections, no

more nervousness, or balance problems, or fuzzy blurry vision, I can

finally look into the sunlight without putting sunglasses on,

perfumes don't smell so strong, my periods are better, no more

urinary track infections, no more blotchy- looks like poor

circulation skin on my arms or legs, like no more terribly stiff

Rheumatoid arthritis like hands, fingers and feet in the mornings,

(just a little is left, but I think it will go away in time) my

shoulder doesn't hurt like it sometimes did, no more crying for no

reason, or feeling panicky, no more shortness of breath, or rashes on

my chest, or bloating, or constipation, I feel so much more like my

old self.

I went over my records the other night, and I found I had over 32

apts w/ doctors for all my problems my last year with implants. WOW!

This last year, I have had 6. One is with my gyne, and of the others

most really not needed, as Dr Mercola likes to see you a lot in the

beginning, most not a medical neccessity.

I can work out with one sport bra, sleep on my stomach, have natural

cleavage again, wear tight button down tops, I can be intimate again

without me being uncomfortable, as they used to hurt or feel strange

when touched. When I hold my son, he is closer to my heart, and feels

softer to my chest. When I hug strangers, I feel warmth, not

wondering thoughts if they feel these cement balls under my shirt. I

can hug better! Who would have thought???? I feel softer, more

beautiful, more balanced, more alert, more peaceful. I feel like,

well... me! The old is finding her way back home. And I missed

her.

So, I just wanted to shout this out , don't ever give up hope. It may

take weeks, or months, or years to feel the effects of wellness after

explant, but really all of us have improved in different ways! And

Thank you Lord for holding me close, and promising me a new chance of

recovery and life again. Thank you Lord! And thank you group....for

all your help! I feel so marvelous in my natural skin again! Love

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hey stranger how are ya doing? I was wondering when you

had

> > your

> > > > > > surgery done did the capsule stay intact all the way

around

> > your

> > > > > > implant when she removed it?? When I had mine taken out

he

> > took

> > > > the

> > > > > > implant out first Not enbloc and then took the anterior

> > capsule

> > > > out and

> > > > > > said that my scar tissue was so paper thin on my chest

wall

> > that

> > > > he

> > > > > > could see through it and there was ALLOT of bleeding when

he

> > > > tried so

> > > > > > he left it in place. I guess i am kind of worried about

it.

> > I

> > > > know

> > > > > > that Patty and some others have said that if you do not

get

> > all

> > > > of the

> > > > > > capsule out that you may continue to be sick. Also I was

> > > > wondering

> > > > > > after your explant could you really feel the pocket where

the

> > > > implant

> > > > > > use to sit?? I can feel mine it is like a round crater in

my

> > > > chest and

> > > > > > I am hoping that it will close eventually. I am pretty

small

> > up

> > > > top

> > > > > > and thin you can really feel my ribs also around where

the

> > > > implant used

> > > > > > to sit. I was just curious if you could feel anything

like

> > that.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hugs Leanne

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Wow, Leanne. Did Krista give you a thorough response or what?! She

has it all in there! Yes, I cried every day for months because it

was so hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel. But, the

crying has been less and less over time...even though I admit I cried

today because in the back of my mind I was somehow hoping that I'd

wake up in 2008 miraculously healed! But, EVERYONE on the forum says

it just takes time. When I feel scared or hopeless I read this post

below by . She was extremely ill and was then able to write

this after lots of detoxing. It cheers me up every time! Love, PH

From: JOSEPH PALANCA

; Pam ; Larena ; rach679@... Mucha

Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 1:30 AM

Subject: health improvement

All my sisters, I was lying in bed, and had to post this message. I

have been feeling steadier more well as the days come and go, for

these last 6 months, that my hubby was asking when we can start

trying again. As you know, or not I have a 3 and a half year old son.

I told him to give me some more time. Maybe later the year of

2004....I am still recuperating , and want to cleanse more for the

health of our next child, and to give my poor body a true chance at

getting well. As much as my tummy tingles at babies....I have to stay

focused. Starting the 1st of this new year, I am planning a 2 to 3

week juicing fast (eliminating the greens) and daily enema's along

with liver flushes (Patty- I'll need you!) To clean up.

But I am posting this all, because I wanted to share my happiness! I

cant believe how much better I am feeling. It has been a year and 2

months since explant. I am really almost back to my old self again.

Except for a small amount of totally bearable joint pain left behind,

all my symptoms have slowly, by the grace of God been going away. As

you all know, I was very ill, and thought there was no way I would

ever feel this good. I knew God would heal me, in some ways, but

never like this!

For a while, I did have some new symptoms come up, and then go away

after explant. And still- some hormonal issues I am balancing (wacked

adrenals, hmmm...wonder why? and also some estrogen dominance)

But still, all and all, I feel great! I sleep better, have a better

appetite , I am finally losing weight (but still so slowly, that's ok

though) have a better mood, can think straight, no more headaches, no

more neck pain, no more scary muscle twitchings into the night, no

more viral issues like I used to have, no more yeast infections, no

more nervousness, or balance problems, or fuzzy blurry vision, I can

finally look into the sunlight without putting sunglasses on,

perfumes don't smell so strong, my periods are better, no more

urinary track infections, no more blotchy- looks like poor

circulation skin on my arms or legs, like no more terribly stiff

Rheumatoid arthritis like hands, fingers and feet in the mornings,

(just a little is left, but I think it will go away in time) my

shoulder doesn't hurt like it sometimes did, no more crying for no

reason, or feeling panicky, no more shortness of breath, or rashes on

my chest, or bloating, or constipation, I feel so much more like my

old self.

I went over my records the other night, and I found I had over 32

apts w/ doctors for all my problems my last year with implants. WOW!

This last year, I have had 6. One is with my gyne, and of the others

most really not needed, as Dr Mercola likes to see you a lot in the

beginning, most not a medical neccessity.

I can work out with one sport bra, sleep on my stomach, have natural

cleavage again, wear tight button down tops, I can be intimate again

without me being uncomfortable, as they used to hurt or feel strange

when touched. When I hold my son, he is closer to my heart, and feels

softer to my chest. When I hug strangers, I feel warmth, not

wondering thoughts if they feel these cement balls under my shirt. I

can hug better! Who would have thought???? I feel softer, more

beautiful, more balanced, more alert, more peaceful. I feel like,

well... me! The old is finding her way back home. And I missed

her.

So, I just wanted to shout this out , don't ever give up hope. It may

take weeks, or months, or years to feel the effects of wellness after

explant, but really all of us have improved in different ways! And

Thank you Lord for holding me close, and promising me a new chance of

recovery and life again. Thank you Lord! And thank you group....for

all your help! I feel so marvelous in my natural skin again! Love

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hey stranger how are ya doing? I was wondering when you

had

> > your

> > > > > > surgery done did the capsule stay intact all the way

around

> > your

> > > > > > implant when she removed it?? When I had mine taken out

he

> > took

> > > > the

> > > > > > implant out first Not enbloc and then took the anterior

> > capsule

> > > > out and

> > > > > > said that my scar tissue was so paper thin on my chest

wall

> > that

> > > > he

> > > > > > could see through it and there was ALLOT of bleeding when

he

> > > > tried so

> > > > > > he left it in place. I guess i am kind of worried about

it.

> > I

> > > > know

> > > > > > that Patty and some others have said that if you do not

get

> > all

> > > > of the

> > > > > > capsule out that you may continue to be sick. Also I was

> > > > wondering

> > > > > > after your explant could you really feel the pocket where

the

> > > > implant

> > > > > > use to sit?? I can feel mine it is like a round crater in

my

> > > > chest and

> > > > > > I am hoping that it will close eventually. I am pretty

small

> > up

> > > > top

> > > > > > and thin you can really feel my ribs also around where

the

> > > > implant used

> > > > > > to sit. I was just curious if you could feel anything

like

> > that.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hugs Leanne

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hey stranger how are ya doing? I was wondering when you

had

> > your

> > > > > > surgery done did the capsule stay intact all the way

around

> > your

> > > > > > implant when she removed it?? When I had mine taken out

he

> > took

> > > > the

> > > > > > implant out first Not enbloc and then took the anterior

> > capsule

> > > > out and

> > > > > > said that my scar tissue was so paper thin on my chest

wall

> > that

> > > > he

> > > > > > could see through it and there was ALLOT of bleeding when

he

> > > > tried so

> > > > > > he left it in place. I guess i am kind of worried about

it.

> > I

> > > > know

> > > > > > that Patty and some others have said that if you do not

get

> > all

> > > > of the

> > > > > > capsule out that you may continue to be sick. Also I was

> > > > wondering

> > > > > > after your explant could you really feel the pocket where

the

> > > > implant

> > > > > > use to sit?? I can feel mine it is like a round crater in

my

> > > > chest and

> > > > > > I am hoping that it will close eventually. I am pretty

small

> > up

> > > > top

> > > > > > and thin you can really feel my ribs also around where

the

> > > > implant used

> > > > > > to sit. I was just curious if you could feel anything

like

> > that.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hugs Leanne

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hey stranger how are ya doing? I was wondering when you

had

> > your

> > > > > > surgery done did the capsule stay intact all the way

around

> > your

> > > > > > implant when she removed it?? When I had mine taken out

he

> > took

> > > > the

> > > > > > implant out first Not enbloc and then took the anterior

> > capsule

> > > > out and

> > > > > > said that my scar tissue was so paper thin on my chest

wall

> > that

> > > > he

> > > > > > could see through it and there was ALLOT of bleeding when

he

> > > > tried so

> > > > > > he left it in place. I guess i am kind of worried about

it.

> > I

> > > > know

> > > > > > that Patty and some others have said that if you do not

get

> > all

> > > > of the

> > > > > > capsule out that you may continue to be sick. Also I was

> > > > wondering

> > > > > > after your explant could you really feel the pocket where

the

> > > > implant

> > > > > > use to sit?? I can feel mine it is like a round crater in

my

> > > > chest and

> > > > > > I am hoping that it will close eventually. I am pretty

small

> > up

> > > > top

> > > > > > and thin you can really feel my ribs also around where

the

> > > > implant used

> > > > > > to sit. I was just curious if you could feel anything

like

> > that.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hugs Leanne

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I have found a wonderful cleaning product online called... Organic and Nature. I requested the MSDA sheets from their corporate office and there is nothing in them that is offensive to my chemical sensitivities. Method does use chemicals that they call "non-toxic" but are not all natural. Organic and Nature has a great bathroom cleaning product that works better then any all natural product I have tested. www.organicandnature.com ljaager <ljaager@...> wrote: > > > >

> >> > > > > > Hey stranger how are ya doing? I was wondering when you had > > your > > > > > > surgery done did the capsule stay intact all the way around > > your > > > > > > implant when she removed it?? When I had mine taken out he > > took > > > > the > > > > > > implant out first Not enbloc and then took the anterior > > capsule > > > > out and > > > > > > said that my scar tissue was so paper thin on my chest wall > > that > > > > he > > > > > > could see through it and there was ALLOT of bleeding when he > > > > tried so > > > > > > he left it in place. I guess i am kind of worried about it. > > I > > > > know > > > > > >

that Patty and some others have said that if you do not get > > all > > > > of the > > > > > > capsule out that you may continue to be sick. Also I was > > > > wondering > > > > > > after your explant could you really feel the pocket where the > > > > implant > > > > > > use to sit?? I can feel mine it is like a round crater in my > > > > chest and > > > > > > I am hoping that it will close eventually. I am pretty small > > up > > > > top > > > > > > and thin you can really feel my ribs also around where the > > > > implant used > > > > > > to sit. I was just curious if you could feel anything like > > that.> > > > > > > > > > > > Hugs Leanne>

> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>-

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[Guest guest]

I have found a wonderful cleaning product online called... Organic and Nature. I requested the MSDA sheets from their corporate office and there is nothing in them that is offensive to my chemical sensitivities. Method does use chemicals that they call "non-toxic" but are not all natural. Organic and Nature has a great bathroom cleaning product that works better then any all natural product I have tested. www.organicandnature.com ljaager <ljaager@...> wrote: > > > >

> >> > > > > > Hey stranger how are ya doing? I was wondering when you had > > your > > > > > > surgery done did the capsule stay intact all the way around > > your > > > > > > implant when she removed it?? When I had mine taken out he > > took > > > > the > > > > > > implant out first Not enbloc and then took the anterior > > capsule > > > > out and > > > > > > said that my scar tissue was so paper thin on my chest wall > > that > > > > he > > > > > > could see through it and there was ALLOT of bleeding when he > > > > tried so > > > > > > he left it in place. I guess i am kind of worried about it. > > I > > > > know > > > > > >

that Patty and some others have said that if you do not get > > all > > > > of the > > > > > > capsule out that you may continue to be sick. Also I was > > > > wondering > > > > > > after your explant could you really feel the pocket where the > > > > implant > > > > > > use to sit?? I can feel mine it is like a round crater in my > > > > chest and > > > > > > I am hoping that it will close eventually. I am pretty small > > up > > > > top > > > > > > and thin you can really feel my ribs also around where the > > > > implant used > > > > > > to sit. I was just curious if you could feel anything like > > that.> > > > > > > > > > > > Hugs Leanne>

> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>-

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[Guest guest]

Leanne- You are always more then welcome to email me personally. My

regular email address is schellkrista@... (that's the

address, if that part doesn't show up.) And, as PH said many of us

have myspace accounts and we correspond privately through there. PH

and I email back and forth almost every day! It's been fun seeing what

people look like and a see a peek into their personal lives. Here is

the link to my page: http://www.myspace.com/kristaschell if you want

to see me or if you get your own space!

Try not to worry and stress too much. That is one of my biggest

downfalls too, worrying about everything and thinking I have every

disease and condition! It doesn't help to worry! I'm sure your PS did

a great job and with time and patience you (and all all us) will be

back to ourselves again.

As far as the forum goes, it is totally fine to take breaks when you

need to. Everyone understands and when you take breaks....you are

always welcome back when you are ready! You can always just email

people personally if you need to talk or need advice.

Love, Krista

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hey stranger how are ya doing? I was wondering when you

> had

> > > your

> > > > > > > surgery done did the capsule stay intact all the way

> around

> > > your

> > > > > > > implant when she removed it?? When I had mine taken out

> he

> > > took

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > implant out first Not enbloc and then took the anterior

> > > capsule

> > > > > out and

> > > > > > > said that my scar tissue was so paper thin on my chest

> wall

> > > that

> > > > > he

> > > > > > > could see through it and there was ALLOT of bleeding when

> he

> > > > > tried so

> > > > > > > he left it in place. I guess i am kind of worried about

> it.

> > > I

> > > > > know

> > > > > > > that Patty and some others have said that if you do not

> get

> > > all

> > > > > of the

> > > > > > > capsule out that you may continue to be sick. Also I was

> > > > > wondering

> > > > > > > after your explant could you really feel the pocket where

> the

> > > > > implant

> > > > > > > use to sit?? I can feel mine it is like a round crater in

> my

> > > > > chest and

> > > > > > > I am hoping that it will close eventually. I am pretty

> small

> > > up

> > > > > top

> > > > > > > and thin you can really feel my ribs also around where

> the

> > > > > implant used

> > > > > > > to sit. I was just curious if you could feel anything

> like

> > > that.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hugs Leanne

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>