Re: ruptured?

January 3, 2008

Suzanna,

Your warranty is probably good . . . It will likely provide something towards replacing your implants, but you'll still be stuck with part of the bill . . . unless your surgeon wants to cut you a deal! . . Your surgeon should have given you a copy when you were implanted. If not, you can probably get a copy from the manufacturer.

HOWEVER,

Before you see your surgeon, please read through some of the old messages and the archives and articles in the Files and Links section.

You may not want to replace your implants! If you don't have symptoms now, you may want to just thank your lucky stars and forget about the implant world altogether.

The warranty does not apply unless you REPLACE those implants! . . . Why mess up the plastic surgeons' annuity?

I wish I could tell you that your replacement will be covered, and that you'll live happily ever after with your implants. However, that has not been the exerience of women in this group!

If your surgeon offers to do the surgery in his office . . . RUN! . . . If he tells you that you'll be depressed or deformed with out implants . ..RUN! . . If he tells you it will take an hour, or less, RUN!

We can help you with the questions to ask an explanting surgeon to ensure you have the best chance of avoiding what we've been through.

If you are having muscle/joint pain, chemical sensitivities, digestion problems, irritable bowel syndrome, or some of the other symptoms described, you may already be reacting to your implants. . . I hope not!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

ruptured?

I have saline breast implants for almost 4 years and never had any problem with it. Until today when I noticed that the right is much smaller than the left one. I made an appointment already for next week but still nervous. Should I go back to the original surgeon or try to find a new doctor? Can I ask my doctor about warranty? If I would replace it would it coast the same as a breast augmentation?thanks in advance for your time.

January 3, 2008

Suzanna,

Your warranty is probably good . . . It will likely provide something towards replacing your implants, but you'll still be stuck with part of the bill . . . unless your surgeon wants to cut you a deal! . . Your surgeon should have given you a copy when you were implanted. If not, you can probably get a copy from the manufacturer.

HOWEVER,

Before you see your surgeon, please read through some of the old messages and the archives and articles in the Files and Links section.

You may not want to replace your implants! If you don't have symptoms now, you may want to just thank your lucky stars and forget about the implant world altogether.

The warranty does not apply unless you REPLACE those implants! . . . Why mess up the plastic surgeons' annuity?

I wish I could tell you that your replacement will be covered, and that you'll live happily ever after with your implants. However, that has not been the exerience of women in this group!

If your surgeon offers to do the surgery in his office . . . RUN! . . . If he tells you that you'll be depressed or deformed with out implants . ..RUN! . . If he tells you it will take an hour, or less, RUN!

We can help you with the questions to ask an explanting surgeon to ensure you have the best chance of avoiding what we've been through.

If you are having muscle/joint pain, chemical sensitivities, digestion problems, irritable bowel syndrome, or some of the other symptoms described, you may already be reacting to your implants. . . I hope not!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

ruptured?

I have saline breast implants for almost 4 years and never had any problem with it. Until today when I noticed that the right is much smaller than the left one. I made an appointment already for next week but still nervous. Should I go back to the original surgeon or try to find a new doctor? Can I ask my doctor about warranty? If I would replace it would it coast the same as a breast augmentation?thanks in advance for your time.

January 3, 2008

Rogene,

Thank you so much for your answers. Unfortunetly I do not have copy

of the warranty. I`m not sure if i ever had. Needless to say I am

terrified now. I never had any problem with my implants! I have no

idea what happened. I was in the fitting room today when I noticed

the different. After having them only for 4 years I don`t think

ageing should be an issue.

Saline will absorb, I hope I wont have problem with that part. I`m

affraid of the financial part most. If I decide to replace the

implants will it cost removing fee plus the price of the breast

augmentation again? I wasn`t prepare to spend that much money for my

breast that soon. My appointment is Tuesday with the same surgeon but

maybe I should find a new one?

>

> Suzanna,

>

> Your warranty is probably good . . . It will likely provide

something towards replacing your implants, but you'll still be stuck

with part of the bill . . . unless your surgeon wants to cut you a

deal! . . Your surgeon should have given you a copy when you were

implanted. If not, you can probably get a copy from the manufacturer.

>

> HOWEVER,

>

> Before you see your surgeon, please read through some of the old

messages and the archives and articles in the Files and Links

section.

>

> You may not want to replace your implants! If you don't have

symptoms now, you may want to just thank your lucky stars and forget

about the implant world altogether.

>

> The warranty does not apply unless you REPLACE those

implants! . . . Why mess up the plastic surgeons' annuity?

>

> I wish I could tell you that your replacement will be covered, and

that you'll live happily ever after with your implants. However, that

has not been the exerience of women in this group!

>

> If your surgeon offers to do the surgery in his office . . .

RUN! . . . If he tells you that you'll be depressed or deformed with

out implants . ..RUN! . . If he tells you it will take an hour, or

less, RUN!

>

> We can help you with the questions to ask an explanting surgeon to

ensure you have the best chance of avoiding what we've been through.

>

> If you are having muscle/joint pain, chemical sensitivities,

digestion problems, irritable bowel syndrome, or some of the other

symptoms described, you may already be reacting to your implants. . .

I hope not!

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

> ruptured?

>

> I have saline breast implants for almost 4 years and never had any

> problem with it. Until today when I noticed that the right is much

> smaller than the left one. I made an appointment already for next

week

> but still nervous. Should I go back to the original surgeon or try

to

> find a new doctor? Can I ask my doctor about warranty? If I would

> replace it would it coast the same as a breast augmentation?

>

> thanks in advance for your time.

>

January 3, 2008

Rogene,

Thank you so much for your answers. Unfortunetly I do not have copy

of the warranty. I`m not sure if i ever had. Needless to say I am

terrified now. I never had any problem with my implants! I have no

idea what happened. I was in the fitting room today when I noticed

the different. After having them only for 4 years I don`t think

ageing should be an issue.

Saline will absorb, I hope I wont have problem with that part. I`m

affraid of the financial part most. If I decide to replace the

implants will it cost removing fee plus the price of the breast

augmentation again? I wasn`t prepare to spend that much money for my

breast that soon. My appointment is Tuesday with the same surgeon but

maybe I should find a new one?

>

> Suzanna,

>

> Your warranty is probably good . . . It will likely provide

something towards replacing your implants, but you'll still be stuck

with part of the bill . . . unless your surgeon wants to cut you a

deal! . . Your surgeon should have given you a copy when you were

implanted. If not, you can probably get a copy from the manufacturer.

>

> HOWEVER,

>

> Before you see your surgeon, please read through some of the old

messages and the archives and articles in the Files and Links

section.

>

> You may not want to replace your implants! If you don't have

symptoms now, you may want to just thank your lucky stars and forget

about the implant world altogether.

>

> The warranty does not apply unless you REPLACE those

implants! . . . Why mess up the plastic surgeons' annuity?

>

> I wish I could tell you that your replacement will be covered, and

that you'll live happily ever after with your implants. However, that

has not been the exerience of women in this group!

>

> If your surgeon offers to do the surgery in his office . . .

RUN! . . . If he tells you that you'll be depressed or deformed with

out implants . ..RUN! . . If he tells you it will take an hour, or

less, RUN!

>

> We can help you with the questions to ask an explanting surgeon to

ensure you have the best chance of avoiding what we've been through.

>

> If you are having muscle/joint pain, chemical sensitivities,

digestion problems, irritable bowel syndrome, or some of the other

symptoms described, you may already be reacting to your implants. . .

I hope not!

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

> ruptured?

>

> I have saline breast implants for almost 4 years and never had any

> problem with it. Until today when I noticed that the right is much

> smaller than the left one. I made an appointment already for next

week

> but still nervous. Should I go back to the original surgeon or try

to

> find a new doctor? Can I ask my doctor about warranty? If I would

> replace it would it coast the same as a breast augmentation?

>

> thanks in advance for your time.

>

January 3, 2008

Suzanna,

There's a good chance that your surgeon didn't do anything to cause your implants to rupture . . .

As they get older, the silicone envelope degrades - sending microscopic pieces throughout your body.

Women in show biz get theirs replaced every three years (according to one of our members who was in the biz) . . . The warranty (if you have the standard implants (and not the experimental some of our women have had) should be replaced every ten years.

The problem with rupture is that the saline solution has only a two years shelf life . . . in a bottle . . . in a dark place. . . Put it into a shell that is semi-permable, that degrades, with defective valves . . . and fluids from your body can get into the implant as well as come out. Some of our women have found there was a huge number of toxic organisms in their (supposedly) safe saline implants. One woman, formerly an electrical engineer, now waiting for SSDI approval, had 22 organisms in hers . . . plus particles from her surgeon's dropped ceiling tiles. A rupture saline implant can cause a dramatic decline in health that can be reversed only by explant and extensive lifestyle changes and detoxing. Proper removal for symptomatic women can run from $6,000 to $22,000. Only your doctor can tell you how much you will have to pay for replacement.

Supposedly you signed an "Informed Consent" form when you received your implants . . . That form should have told you that implants aren't lifetime devices, and that you should expect to replace them periodically. . . What the FDA needs to tell women is to set aside thousands of dollars for the possiblity of removal or replacement. . . It's not a matter of if . . it's when!

The FDA has a considerable amount of information about the problems with breast implants on their implant website . . . If I try to go there from here, I'll lose what I've typed . . . But as soon as I get this sent, I'll find it and post it.

Hugs,

Rogene

January 3, 2008

Suzanna,

There's a good chance that your surgeon didn't do anything to cause your implants to rupture . . .

As they get older, the silicone envelope degrades - sending microscopic pieces throughout your body.

Women in show biz get theirs replaced every three years (according to one of our members who was in the biz) . . . The warranty (if you have the standard implants (and not the experimental some of our women have had) should be replaced every ten years.

The problem with rupture is that the saline solution has only a two years shelf life . . . in a bottle . . . in a dark place. . . Put it into a shell that is semi-permable, that degrades, with defective valves . . . and fluids from your body can get into the implant as well as come out. Some of our women have found there was a huge number of toxic organisms in their (supposedly) safe saline implants. One woman, formerly an electrical engineer, now waiting for SSDI approval, had 22 organisms in hers . . . plus particles from her surgeon's dropped ceiling tiles. A rupture saline implant can cause a dramatic decline in health that can be reversed only by explant and extensive lifestyle changes and detoxing. Proper removal for symptomatic women can run from $6,000 to $22,000. Only your doctor can tell you how much you will have to pay for replacement.

Supposedly you signed an "Informed Consent" form when you received your implants . . . That form should have told you that implants aren't lifetime devices, and that you should expect to replace them periodically. . . What the FDA needs to tell women is to set aside thousands of dollars for the possiblity of removal or replacement. . . It's not a matter of if . . it's when!

The FDA has a considerable amount of information about the problems with breast implants on their implant website . . . If I try to go there from here, I'll lose what I've typed . . . But as soon as I get this sent, I'll find it and post it.

Hugs,

Rogene

January 3, 2008

B ~

Ruptures happen because of injury........

but more often because of a tiny hole

that occurs during surgery, or because

your body is attacking it as an invader

in the body. Our bodies are designed

to handle most things, just not huge

implanted things full of toxins.....

I also believe there are thin spots in the

outter shells that are just defects.

When our bodies attack them, the thin

spots just break open. The scar caps that

form around the implants can hold in junk

and swelling and infection giving the appearance

of normal implants when actually they are

ruptured, and there is a toxic and infected mess

growing in there. I had gangrene in my chest......

pretty nasty, huh? and for 2 years the doctors

and radiologists kept telling me it was all in my head.

Right now, I know 3 people that have had horrible

long term and ongoing infections in their breasts from

implants. So bad that even with the implants explanted

the infection is still keeping them ill.

This is sick and sad.......

Dede

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January 3, 2008

B ~

Ruptures happen because of injury........

but more often because of a tiny hole

that occurs during surgery, or because

your body is attacking it as an invader

in the body. Our bodies are designed

to handle most things, just not huge

implanted things full of toxins.....

I also believe there are thin spots in the

outter shells that are just defects.

When our bodies attack them, the thin

spots just break open. The scar caps that

form around the implants can hold in junk

and swelling and infection giving the appearance

of normal implants when actually they are

ruptured, and there is a toxic and infected mess

growing in there. I had gangrene in my chest......

pretty nasty, huh? and for 2 years the doctors

and radiologists kept telling me it was all in my head.

Right now, I know 3 people that have had horrible

long term and ongoing infections in their breasts from

implants. So bad that even with the implants explanted

the infection is still keeping them ill.

This is sick and sad.......

Dede

Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

January 3, 2008

Hi Roegen - I just had a question....I have seen on several posts about surgeons doing the surgery in their office. My PS did both my explanting and explanting surgery in the office. I was told this is safer because there can be an increase risk for infection and other things in a hospital. I felt as through everything was very clean and it was a newer facility. Was I wrong to think this was safe????? I also was under the inpression that most other surgeons do the surgery in thier office. Most of them have a surgery room there. When I was looking into possibly changing doctors for my explant - the other PS's I called also did theirs in the office. I still have alot of faith that my PS did the best job possible during explant, but I still wory

sometimes since she was not on the recommended list.........

Much Love,

Beth

ruptured?

I have saline breast implants for almost 4 years and never had any problem with it. Until today when I noticed that the right is much smaller than the left one. I made an appointment already for next week but still nervous. Should I go back to the original surgeon or try to find a new doctor? Can I ask my doctor about warranty? If I would replace it would it coast the same as a breast augmentation?thanks in advance for your time.

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January 3, 2008

Hi Roegen - I just had a question....I have seen on several posts about surgeons doing the surgery in their office. My PS did both my explanting and explanting surgery in the office. I was told this is safer because there can be an increase risk for infection and other things in a hospital. I felt as through everything was very clean and it was a newer facility. Was I wrong to think this was safe????? I also was under the inpression that most other surgeons do the surgery in thier office. Most of them have a surgery room there. When I was looking into possibly changing doctors for my explant - the other PS's I called also did theirs in the office. I still have alot of faith that my PS did the best job possible during explant, but I still wory

sometimes since she was not on the recommended list.........

Much Love,

Beth

ruptured?

I have saline breast implants for almost 4 years and never had any problem with it. Until today when I noticed that the right is much smaller than the left one. I made an appointment already for next week but still nervous. Should I go back to the original surgeon or try to find a new doctor? Can I ask my doctor about warranty? If I would replace it would it coast the same as a breast augmentation?thanks in advance for your time.

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January 3, 2008

Beth,

Let's let the ladies here chime in on what they think about where their implants were placed and removed. . .

Doctors don't have the oversight in their offices that they do in surgical centers . . . nor the backup should something go wrong. Undoubtedly some doctors surgical suites are clean and some hospitals are dirty. In hospitals and surgery centers, they must observe much more stringent regulations. Regardless of what doctors do with their own records, you should be able to get a proper surgical report from hospitals or surgical centers.

My implants were placed in a hospital and removed in a surgical center. However, I heard that my implanting doctor removed implants in his own surgical suite . . . He did a local, opened the woman's breast, popped the implants out, threw them in the trash, sewed her up and sent her home. . . bad, bad, bad! The woman was very sick afterwards.

Based on what I've been seeing on the news, doctors who mistreat their patients are far more likely to do the procedure in their own surgical suite. IMHO, properly done explant is too complicated to be done in the doctor's office.

Rogene

January 3, 2008

Beth,

Let's let the ladies here chime in on what they think about where their implants were placed and removed. . .

Doctors don't have the oversight in their offices that they do in surgical centers . . . nor the backup should something go wrong. Undoubtedly some doctors surgical suites are clean and some hospitals are dirty. In hospitals and surgery centers, they must observe much more stringent regulations. Regardless of what doctors do with their own records, you should be able to get a proper surgical report from hospitals or surgical centers.

My implants were placed in a hospital and removed in a surgical center. However, I heard that my implanting doctor removed implants in his own surgical suite . . . He did a local, opened the woman's breast, popped the implants out, threw them in the trash, sewed her up and sent her home. . . bad, bad, bad! The woman was very sick afterwards.

Based on what I've been seeing on the news, doctors who mistreat their patients are far more likely to do the procedure in their own surgical suite. IMHO, properly done explant is too complicated to be done in the doctor's office.

Rogene

January 3, 2008

I was extremely ill with it, was diagnosed with about 20

different things that they said wasnt related to the

massive silicone rupture that I had had........and it did not

show up on 5 x-rays or 2 mri's. I did not have fever, nor did

I have a high white count showing infection.........I did have

lots of pain in my right pec, and I had numbness and burning

up my arm and neck, and down to my hand, and I dropped

things all the time. The surgery to remove the tumor that

was there took 6 hours and it was a really nasty tumor and

they had to remove most of my right pectoral muscle due

to the infection. The tumor was labled thick rubbery ovid

cystic silicone filled mass 10x7x4 cm was the size of it, and

the gangrene and necrotic tissue was around it. I have all

my reports on it...........something described like that tumor

should have in fact showed up on xray and mri.......

but it didnt ! !

Nasty, Nasty, Nasty ! ! !

What I think happened is my entire immune system

didnt work cuz of it. I still have low B cells and no

immune system.....

Hugs Dede

Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

January 3, 2008

I was extremely ill with it, was diagnosed with about 20

different things that they said wasnt related to the

massive silicone rupture that I had had........and it did not

show up on 5 x-rays or 2 mri's. I did not have fever, nor did

I have a high white count showing infection.........I did have

lots of pain in my right pec, and I had numbness and burning

up my arm and neck, and down to my hand, and I dropped

things all the time. The surgery to remove the tumor that

was there took 6 hours and it was a really nasty tumor and

they had to remove most of my right pectoral muscle due

to the infection. The tumor was labled thick rubbery ovid

cystic silicone filled mass 10x7x4 cm was the size of it, and

the gangrene and necrotic tissue was around it. I have all

my reports on it...........something described like that tumor

should have in fact showed up on xray and mri.......

but it didnt ! !

Nasty, Nasty, Nasty ! ! !

What I think happened is my entire immune system

didnt work cuz of it. I still have low B cells and no

immune system.....

Hugs Dede

Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

January 3, 2008

Beth,

Did you get a copy of your operative report from explant?

I've also heard that hospitals are risky with all the infectious

materials everywhere, but I had my explant in a hospital. I took a

long time to heal, but I did not have any problems. I think every

surgeon's office is open to being unsafe...it all depends on the

procedures that they adhere to for cleanliness and sanitation. One

could be very good, and one could be very bad. You just don't know.

I personally feel that my implanting surgeon was not careful enough,

because I ended up with hot, fevered breasts about 8 months post-

implant. I believe I had an infection there. The surgery was done

right there in his office, and unfortunately for me, it was at the

beginning of the Memorial Day weekend, and he seemed to have

forgotten that I was scheduled. I remember having to wait for him to

get there.

There are always questions when you use a doctor that is not known

for doing explants correctly. That's why the list was developed.

That is not to say that they are all on there...you could have found

another doctor we can add to the list, as long as you have proof that

they did a proper, correct explant with a total capsulectomy. The

only way you can verify that is to read your operative report and

find out what exactly they did when they opened you up.

Patty

>

> Hi Roegen - I just had a question....I have seen on several posts

about surgeons doing the surgery in their office. My PS did both my

explanting and explanting surgery in the office. I was told this is

safer because there can be an increase risk for infection and other

things in a hospital. I felt as through everything was very clean

and it was a newer facility. Was I wrong to think this was

safe????? I also was under the inpression that most other surgeons

do the surgery in thier office. Most of them have a surgery room

there. When I was looking into possibly changing doctors for my

explant - the other PS's I called also did theirs in the office. I

still have alot of faith that my PS did the best job possible during

explant, but I still wory sometimes since she was not on the

recommended list.........

>

> Much Love,

> Beth

>

> ruptured?

>

> I have saline breast implants for almost 4 years and never had any

> problem with it. Until today when I noticed that the right is much

> smaller than the left one. I made an appointment already for next

week

> but still nervous. Should I go back to the original surgeon or try

to

> find a new doctor? Can I ask my doctor about warranty? If I would

> replace it would it coast the same as a breast augmentation?

>

> thanks in advance for your time.

>

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