Re: Foot Bath & uplifting Story patty

[Guest guest]

Aww Patty thank you,

I could get an adaptor but if all the

electrics have to be changed!!!!

I am going to have a really good look

tonight, on the internet.

They do them at my local nail salon but I

cannot stand the smell in there, they use all this stuff to make false nails

yuck.The units I have used are much more fancy than the ones I have seen on

ionic oasis so will cost a lot more, I only want the basic one.

I have had a lady come to my home when I used

them but they are so expensive £30.00 a time, seems so unreasonable when you

can buy the unit for less than that.

I have a paypal account on ebay so paying

for a unit is not a problem.

My husband has been doing a lot of

research for me lately (bless his heart) he is convinced I need colonic

irrigation, he is going to get it done himself in the next couple of weeks to prove

to me its ok. He is also going to do the liver flush…bless him he wants

me to get well and is doing these things to show me its not too bad.

Thanks for the offer Patty.

I have also sent an email to in the

canaries hopefully she will be able to point me in the right direction.

Love Sue

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of glory2glory1401

Sent: 08 January 2008 15:22

Subject: Re: Foot Bath & uplifting

Story

Sue,

I'm sure that one of us could ship to England for you! I'm not sure

how it would work with the electrical plug, and if you'd have to get

an adapter, but if you'd like to buy one of the foot baths, I'd

volunteer to get it on Ebay and send it to you.

Patty

> >

> > ,

> >

> > The foot bath Krista is talking about is made by the people who

> sell them . . . They cost far less than other foot baths . . but do

> the same job. . . minus the fancy case and computer tracking

> stuff. . . They'll last much longer and costs much less to replace

> the arrays . . . A really good deal.! The ebay price is half that

of

> the IonicOasis.com website.

> >

> > If you offer them $25 less than their " buy it now " price,

they'll

> likely take it.

> >

> > Rogene

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Aww Patty thank you,

I could get an adaptor but if all the

electrics have to be changed!!!!

I am going to have a really good look

tonight, on the internet.

They do them at my local nail salon but I

cannot stand the smell in there, they use all this stuff to make false nails

yuck.The units I have used are much more fancy than the ones I have seen on

ionic oasis so will cost a lot more, I only want the basic one.

I have had a lady come to my home when I used

them but they are so expensive £30.00 a time, seems so unreasonable when you

can buy the unit for less than that.

I have a paypal account on ebay so paying

for a unit is not a problem.

My husband has been doing a lot of

research for me lately (bless his heart) he is convinced I need colonic

irrigation, he is going to get it done himself in the next couple of weeks to prove

to me its ok. He is also going to do the liver flush…bless him he wants

me to get well and is doing these things to show me its not too bad.

Thanks for the offer Patty.

I have also sent an email to in the

canaries hopefully she will be able to point me in the right direction.

Love Sue

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of glory2glory1401

Sent: 08 January 2008 15:22

Subject: Re: Foot Bath & uplifting

Story

Sue,

I'm sure that one of us could ship to England for you! I'm not sure

how it would work with the electrical plug, and if you'd have to get

an adapter, but if you'd like to buy one of the foot baths, I'd

volunteer to get it on Ebay and send it to you.

Patty

> >

> > ,

> >

> > The foot bath Krista is talking about is made by the people who

> sell them . . . They cost far less than other foot baths . . but do

> the same job. . . minus the fancy case and computer tracking

> stuff. . . They'll last much longer and costs much less to replace

> the arrays . . . A really good deal.! The ebay price is half that

of

> the IonicOasis.com website.

> >

> > If you offer them $25 less than their " buy it now " price,

they'll

> likely take it.

> >

> > Rogene

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sue,

Your husband sounds like such a sweetheart! My husband also did the

colonics and the liver flushes with me. He is my hero! He does

everything that I do. Doesn't it feel wonderful to have a man that

cares that much? We are blessed Sue.

Hopefully will come through for you. It sounds like she found

the right place.

Sue, please forgive me if I keep bringing up the same issue with the

hormones....I feel like I am a squawking bird about it lately, but I

say this because of my own experience recently. I just have to

wonder if this is part of your problem. I know how debilitating the

dizziness can be, or how scary it is to feel like your brain is

taking off on you and doing its own thing and making you feel crazy.

When I started working, I fell behind in using my bio-identical

hormones...the progesterone and triple estrogen cream. I started to

get numbness and tingling, and my brain fog started coming back. I

thought it was stress, perhaps the cheese I was eating at work,

dietary changes, too much sugar, whatever.....I even had the crawly

feeling back in my leg once or twice. That started to shake me up.

I couldn't do much about the schedule I was on, but I did do one

thing....I made sure I was putting on my hormone creams every night,

without fail.

And everything cleared up! I even still ate a few sweets over

Christmas. I started my New Year's diet change in earnest when 2008

rang in, but I was feeling better already prior to that with the

dedication to putting on those hormone creams nightly. The biggest

change was my clear-headedness. And the numbness and tingling and

crawly feelings have not returned.

So, for what it's worth....please check into bio-identical hormone

replacement therapy. If it works, you'll find relief. If not, you

won't, and you can stop it when you decide to. But, please, just see

if it might work for you.

Low hormones have been implicated in MS and other autoimmune

diseases...and I, for one, think it is a very neglected issue for

some women who don't heal after explant.

Sending hugs,

Patty

> > >

> > > ,

> > >

> > > The foot bath Krista is talking about is made by the people who

> > sell them . . . They cost far less than other foot baths . . but

do

> > the same job. . . minus the fancy case and computer tracking

> > stuff. . . They'll last much longer and costs much less to

replace

> > the arrays . . . A really good deal.! The ebay price is half that

> of

> > the IonicOasis.com website.

> > >

> > > If you offer them $25 less than their " buy it now " price,

they'll

> > likely take it.

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sue,

Your husband sounds like such a sweetheart! My husband also did the

colonics and the liver flushes with me. He is my hero! He does

everything that I do. Doesn't it feel wonderful to have a man that

cares that much? We are blessed Sue.

Hopefully will come through for you. It sounds like she found

the right place.

Sue, please forgive me if I keep bringing up the same issue with the

hormones....I feel like I am a squawking bird about it lately, but I

say this because of my own experience recently. I just have to

wonder if this is part of your problem. I know how debilitating the

dizziness can be, or how scary it is to feel like your brain is

taking off on you and doing its own thing and making you feel crazy.

When I started working, I fell behind in using my bio-identical

hormones...the progesterone and triple estrogen cream. I started to

get numbness and tingling, and my brain fog started coming back. I

thought it was stress, perhaps the cheese I was eating at work,

dietary changes, too much sugar, whatever.....I even had the crawly

feeling back in my leg once or twice. That started to shake me up.

I couldn't do much about the schedule I was on, but I did do one

thing....I made sure I was putting on my hormone creams every night,

without fail.

And everything cleared up! I even still ate a few sweets over

Christmas. I started my New Year's diet change in earnest when 2008

rang in, but I was feeling better already prior to that with the

dedication to putting on those hormone creams nightly. The biggest

change was my clear-headedness. And the numbness and tingling and

crawly feelings have not returned.

So, for what it's worth....please check into bio-identical hormone

replacement therapy. If it works, you'll find relief. If not, you

won't, and you can stop it when you decide to. But, please, just see

if it might work for you.

Low hormones have been implicated in MS and other autoimmune

diseases...and I, for one, think it is a very neglected issue for

some women who don't heal after explant.

Sending hugs,

Patty

> > >

> > > ,

> > >

> > > The foot bath Krista is talking about is made by the people who

> > sell them . . . They cost far less than other foot baths . . but

do

> > the same job. . . minus the fancy case and computer tracking

> > stuff. . . They'll last much longer and costs much less to

replace

> > the arrays . . . A really good deal.! The ebay price is half that

> of

> > the IonicOasis.com website.

> > >

> > > If you offer them $25 less than their " buy it now " price,

they'll

> > likely take it.

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Patty,

I have been reading up on bio identical

hormones as much as I can but with this brain its hard.

I am not sure how to get it though, do I

have to see my Dr?

I am pretty sure its hormonal related in

some way, because if you go back a few years I was not this bad.

If I can get the bio identical hormones

what do you do with them ? where do you use them?

Its so different in this country, our NP

are not allowed to give you medicine only homeopathic, they cannot do bloods

either.

I did try the cortisol cream and had a

reaction to it.

I still need to get my blood work done

again, I was given the paperwork before Christmas so I should hurry and get it

done.

I would love a full hormone panel done but

its not something you are going to get done on the NHS too expensive.

I am also trying to get the adrenal issues

sorted.

Its so much to try and work out for me

though.

Thank you

LOVE SUE

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of glory2glory1401

Sent: 08 January 2008 16:12

Subject: Re: Foot Bath & uplifting

Story patty

Sue,

Your husband sounds like such a sweetheart! My husband also did the

colonics and the liver flushes with me. He is my hero! He does

everything that I do. Doesn't it feel wonderful to have a man that

cares that much? We are blessed Sue.

Hopefully will come through for you. It sounds like she found

the right place.

Sue, please forgive me if I keep bringing up the same issue with the

hormones....I feel like I am a squawking bird about it lately, but I

say this because of my own experience recently. I just have to

wonder if this is part of your problem. I know how debilitating the

dizziness can be, or how scary it is to feel like your brain is

taking off on you and doing its own thing and making you feel crazy.

When I started working, I fell behind in using my bio-identical

hormones...the progesterone and triple estrogen cream. I started to

get numbness and tingling, and my brain fog started coming back. I

thought it was stress, perhaps the cheese I was eating at work,

dietary changes, too much sugar, whatever.....I even had the crawly

feeling back in my leg once or twice. That started to shake me up.

I couldn't do much about the schedule I was on, but I did do one

thing....I made sure I was putting on my hormone creams every night,

without fail.

And everything cleared up! I even still ate a few sweets over

Christmas. I started my New Year's diet change in earnest when 2008

rang in, but I was feeling better already prior to that with the

dedication to putting on those hormone creams nightly. The biggest

change was my clear-headedness. And the numbness and tingling and

crawly feelings have not returned.

So, for what it's worth....please check into bio-identical hormone

replacement therapy. If it works, you'll find relief. If not, you

won't, and you can stop it when you decide to. But, please, just see

if it might work for you.

Low hormones have been implicated in MS and other autoimmune

diseases...and I, for one, think it is a very neglected issue for

some women who don't heal after explant.

Sending hugs,

Patty

> > >

> > > ,

> > >

> > > The foot bath Krista is talking about is made by the people who

> > sell them . . . They cost far less than other foot baths . . but

do

> > the same job. . . minus the fancy case and computer tracking

> > stuff. . . They'll last much longer and costs much less to

replace

> > the arrays . . . A really good deal.! The ebay price is half that

> of

> > the IonicOasis.com website.

> > >

> > > If you offer them $25 less than their " buy it now "

price,

they'll

> > likely take it.

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Patty,

I have been reading up on bio identical

hormones as much as I can but with this brain its hard.

I am not sure how to get it though, do I

have to see my Dr?

I am pretty sure its hormonal related in

some way, because if you go back a few years I was not this bad.

If I can get the bio identical hormones

what do you do with them ? where do you use them?

Its so different in this country, our NP

are not allowed to give you medicine only homeopathic, they cannot do bloods

either.

I did try the cortisol cream and had a

reaction to it.

I still need to get my blood work done

again, I was given the paperwork before Christmas so I should hurry and get it

done.

I would love a full hormone panel done but

its not something you are going to get done on the NHS too expensive.

I am also trying to get the adrenal issues

sorted.

Its so much to try and work out for me

though.

Thank you

LOVE SUE

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of glory2glory1401

Sent: 08 January 2008 16:12

Subject: Re: Foot Bath & uplifting

Story patty

Sue,

Your husband sounds like such a sweetheart! My husband also did the

colonics and the liver flushes with me. He is my hero! He does

everything that I do. Doesn't it feel wonderful to have a man that

cares that much? We are blessed Sue.

Hopefully will come through for you. It sounds like she found

the right place.

Sue, please forgive me if I keep bringing up the same issue with the

hormones....I feel like I am a squawking bird about it lately, but I

say this because of my own experience recently. I just have to

wonder if this is part of your problem. I know how debilitating the

dizziness can be, or how scary it is to feel like your brain is

taking off on you and doing its own thing and making you feel crazy.

When I started working, I fell behind in using my bio-identical

hormones...the progesterone and triple estrogen cream. I started to

get numbness and tingling, and my brain fog started coming back. I

thought it was stress, perhaps the cheese I was eating at work,

dietary changes, too much sugar, whatever.....I even had the crawly

feeling back in my leg once or twice. That started to shake me up.

I couldn't do much about the schedule I was on, but I did do one

thing....I made sure I was putting on my hormone creams every night,

without fail.

And everything cleared up! I even still ate a few sweets over

Christmas. I started my New Year's diet change in earnest when 2008

rang in, but I was feeling better already prior to that with the

dedication to putting on those hormone creams nightly. The biggest

change was my clear-headedness. And the numbness and tingling and

crawly feelings have not returned.

So, for what it's worth....please check into bio-identical hormone

replacement therapy. If it works, you'll find relief. If not, you

won't, and you can stop it when you decide to. But, please, just see

if it might work for you.

Low hormones have been implicated in MS and other autoimmune

diseases...and I, for one, think it is a very neglected issue for

some women who don't heal after explant.

Sending hugs,

Patty

> > >

> > > ,

> > >

> > > The foot bath Krista is talking about is made by the people who

> > sell them . . . They cost far less than other foot baths . . but

do

> > the same job. . . minus the fancy case and computer tracking

> > stuff. . . They'll last much longer and costs much less to

replace

> > the arrays . . . A really good deal.! The ebay price is half that

> of

> > the IonicOasis.com website.

> > >

> > > If you offer them $25 less than their " buy it now "

price,

they'll

> > likely take it.

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sue,

I buy my triple estrogen cream from England, they ship here. But I

guess they can't ship within their own country. How weird is that???

But hopefully you can get progesterone cream. I would start with that

anyway, because those with MS show low levels of this hormone, or a

poor ratio of progesterone and estrogen.

I bet you can order the progesterone cream over the net...can you

look and see? I would think you could, so let me know.

I just rub a small spot of cream on my areas of thin skin, like

behind the knees, in the elbows, on the chest or neck, and inner

thigh. The LifeFlo comes with a pump dispenser which is really

nice...it's already measured. The estrogen cream I use comes with a

spoon, but I find that it is too much. I use about half of the

teaspoon.

For the adrenals, I would just make sure you are getting enough

Vitamin C and the other nutrients, (Pantothenic Acid, Vit E, B6, and

there are adrenal herbs as well--licorice root, ginseng). You can

also take DHEA and pregnenolone by pill to help your adrenals with

hormone production.

It's so hard with the current medical system...I don't know the

English one, but I do know that even in America it is maddening to

get the doctors to understand some basic ideas of subclinical

manifestations of hormonal imbalance! We are headed for a medical

meltdown, not to mention an economic meltdown if these doctors can't

learn to recognize the kinds of hormonal issues people are dealing

with. We are like the canary bird in the mine...we who have been sick

from our implants are an indication of what is going on on a small

scale due to toxicity. But with the toxins, poisons and pollution

all people are getting everywhere, we are seeing more and more

autoimmune disease, more people with adrenal issues and thyroid

issues (it's now called stress and depression, which they treat with

more drugs, what a slippery slope they are on!), to the point that

what I see in the future is a very messed up world with very poor

health! OUr endocrine systems are going to just freak!

Yikes!

Patty

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > >

> > > > The foot bath Krista is talking about is made by the people

who

> > > sell them . . . They cost far less than other foot baths . .

but

> do

> > > the same job. . . minus the fancy case and computer tracking

> > > stuff. . . They'll last much longer and costs much less to

> replace

> > > the arrays . . . A really good deal.! The ebay price is half

that

> > of

> > > the IonicOasis.com website.

> > > >

> > > > If you offer them $25 less than their " buy it now " price,

> they'll

> > > likely take it.

> > > >

> > > > Rogene

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The other thing Patty

In England we get offered HRT patches (HOMONE

REPLACEMENT THERAPY) these have been proven in cause breast cancer

I would not be a candidate for this as my

mum had breast cancer twice; my sister was offered it because she is menopausal

when she mentioned my mum the Dr said no you cannot have it.

My Dr wants me to take calcium tablets

because I have had so many children, another thing I cannot take as I react.

The problem I have is I do not like trying

anything new as the reactions I have make me so ill it puts me off.

Sue

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of glory2glory1401

Sent: 08 January 2008 16:12

Subject: Re: Foot Bath & uplifting

Story patty

Sue,

Your husband sounds like such a sweetheart! My husband also did the

colonics and the liver flushes with me. He is my hero! He does

everything that I do. Doesn't it feel wonderful to have a man that

cares that much? We are blessed Sue.

Hopefully will come through for you. It sounds like she found

the right place.

Sue, please forgive me if I keep bringing up the same issue with the

hormones....I feel like I am a squawking bird about it lately, but I

say this because of my own experience recently. I just have to

wonder if this is part of your problem. I know how debilitating the

dizziness can be, or how scary it is to feel like your brain is

taking off on you and doing its own thing and making you feel crazy.

When I started working, I fell behind in using my bio-identical

hormones...the progesterone and triple estrogen cream. I started to

get numbness and tingling, and my brain fog started coming back. I

thought it was stress, perhaps the cheese I was eating at work,

dietary changes, too much sugar, whatever.....I even had the crawly

feeling back in my leg once or twice. That started to shake me up.

I couldn't do much about the schedule I was on, but I did do one

thing....I made sure I was putting on my hormone creams every night,

without fail.

And everything cleared up! I even still ate a few sweets over

Christmas. I started my New Year's diet change in earnest when 2008

rang in, but I was feeling better already prior to that with the

dedication to putting on those hormone creams nightly. The biggest

change was my clear-headedness. And the numbness and tingling and

crawly feelings have not returned.

So, for what it's worth....please check into bio-identical hormone

replacement therapy. If it works, you'll find relief. If not, you

won't, and you can stop it when you decide to. But, please, just see

if it might work for you.

Low hormones have been implicated in MS and other autoimmune

diseases...and I, for one, think it is a very neglected issue for

some women who don't heal after explant.

Sending hugs,

Patty

> > >

> > > ,

> > >

> > > The foot bath Krista is talking about is made by the people who

> > sell them . . . They cost far less than other foot baths . . but

do

> > the same job. . . minus the fancy case and computer tracking

> > stuff. . . They'll last much longer and costs much less to

replace

> > the arrays . . . A really good deal.! The ebay price is half that

> of

> > the IonicOasis.com website.

> > >

> > > If you offer them $25 less than their " buy it now "

price,

they'll

> > likely take it.

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sue,

I buy my triple estrogen cream from England, they ship here. But I

guess they can't ship within their own country. How weird is that???

But hopefully you can get progesterone cream. I would start with that

anyway, because those with MS show low levels of this hormone, or a

poor ratio of progesterone and estrogen.

I bet you can order the progesterone cream over the net...can you

look and see? I would think you could, so let me know.

I just rub a small spot of cream on my areas of thin skin, like

behind the knees, in the elbows, on the chest or neck, and inner

thigh. The LifeFlo comes with a pump dispenser which is really

nice...it's already measured. The estrogen cream I use comes with a

spoon, but I find that it is too much. I use about half of the

teaspoon.

For the adrenals, I would just make sure you are getting enough

Vitamin C and the other nutrients, (Pantothenic Acid, Vit E, B6, and

there are adrenal herbs as well--licorice root, ginseng). You can

also take DHEA and pregnenolone by pill to help your adrenals with

hormone production.

It's so hard with the current medical system...I don't know the

English one, but I do know that even in America it is maddening to

get the doctors to understand some basic ideas of subclinical

manifestations of hormonal imbalance! We are headed for a medical

meltdown, not to mention an economic meltdown if these doctors can't

learn to recognize the kinds of hormonal issues people are dealing

with. We are like the canary bird in the mine...we who have been sick

from our implants are an indication of what is going on on a small

scale due to toxicity. But with the toxins, poisons and pollution

all people are getting everywhere, we are seeing more and more

autoimmune disease, more people with adrenal issues and thyroid

issues (it's now called stress and depression, which they treat with

more drugs, what a slippery slope they are on!), to the point that

what I see in the future is a very messed up world with very poor

health! OUr endocrine systems are going to just freak!

Yikes!

Patty

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > >

> > > > The foot bath Krista is talking about is made by the people

who

> > > sell them . . . They cost far less than other foot baths . .

but

> do

> > > the same job. . . minus the fancy case and computer tracking

> > > stuff. . . They'll last much longer and costs much less to

> replace

> > > the arrays . . . A really good deal.! The ebay price is half

that

> > of

> > > the IonicOasis.com website.

> > > >

> > > > If you offer them $25 less than their " buy it now " price,

> they'll

> > > likely take it.

> > > >

> > > > Rogene

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The other thing Patty

In England we get offered HRT patches (HOMONE

REPLACEMENT THERAPY) these have been proven in cause breast cancer

I would not be a candidate for this as my

mum had breast cancer twice; my sister was offered it because she is menopausal

when she mentioned my mum the Dr said no you cannot have it.

My Dr wants me to take calcium tablets

because I have had so many children, another thing I cannot take as I react.

The problem I have is I do not like trying

anything new as the reactions I have make me so ill it puts me off.

Sue

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of glory2glory1401

Sent: 08 January 2008 16:12

Subject: Re: Foot Bath & uplifting

Story patty

Sue,

Your husband sounds like such a sweetheart! My husband also did the

colonics and the liver flushes with me. He is my hero! He does

everything that I do. Doesn't it feel wonderful to have a man that

cares that much? We are blessed Sue.

Hopefully will come through for you. It sounds like she found

the right place.

Sue, please forgive me if I keep bringing up the same issue with the

hormones....I feel like I am a squawking bird about it lately, but I

say this because of my own experience recently. I just have to

wonder if this is part of your problem. I know how debilitating the

dizziness can be, or how scary it is to feel like your brain is

taking off on you and doing its own thing and making you feel crazy.

When I started working, I fell behind in using my bio-identical

hormones...the progesterone and triple estrogen cream. I started to

get numbness and tingling, and my brain fog started coming back. I

thought it was stress, perhaps the cheese I was eating at work,

dietary changes, too much sugar, whatever.....I even had the crawly

feeling back in my leg once or twice. That started to shake me up.

I couldn't do much about the schedule I was on, but I did do one

thing....I made sure I was putting on my hormone creams every night,

without fail.

And everything cleared up! I even still ate a few sweets over

Christmas. I started my New Year's diet change in earnest when 2008

rang in, but I was feeling better already prior to that with the

dedication to putting on those hormone creams nightly. The biggest

change was my clear-headedness. And the numbness and tingling and

crawly feelings have not returned.

So, for what it's worth....please check into bio-identical hormone

replacement therapy. If it works, you'll find relief. If not, you

won't, and you can stop it when you decide to. But, please, just see

if it might work for you.

Low hormones have been implicated in MS and other autoimmune

diseases...and I, for one, think it is a very neglected issue for

some women who don't heal after explant.

Sending hugs,

Patty

> > >

> > > ,

> > >

> > > The foot bath Krista is talking about is made by the people who

> > sell them . . . They cost far less than other foot baths . . but

do

> > the same job. . . minus the fancy case and computer tracking

> > stuff. . . They'll last much longer and costs much less to

replace

> > the arrays . . . A really good deal.! The ebay price is half that

> of

> > the IonicOasis.com website.

> > >

> > > If you offer them $25 less than their " buy it now "

price,

they'll

> > likely take it.

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Patty,

I have just looked up progesterone and I

can get it here.

One make I found has these ingredients …what

do you think.

Natural progesterone

Tocotrienal (vit E )

PRIMROSE OIL

ALOE VERA

MSM

GRAPE SEED EXTRACT

Does this one sound ok?

Its only £15.00 so it seems reasonable.

Sue

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of glory2glory1401

Sent: 08 January 2008 16:44

Subject: Re: Foot Bath & uplifting

Story patty

Sue,

I buy my triple estrogen cream from England, they ship here. But I

guess they can't ship within their own country. How weird is that???

But hopefully you can get progesterone cream. I would start with that

anyway, because those with MS show low levels of this hormone, or a

poor ratio of progesterone and estrogen.

I bet you can order the progesterone cream over the net...can you

look and see? I would think you could, so let me know.

I just rub a small spot of cream on my areas of thin skin, like

behind the knees, in the elbows, on the chest or neck, and inner

thigh. The LifeFlo comes with a pump dispenser which is really

nice...it's already measured. The estrogen cream I use comes with a

spoon, but I find that it is too much. I use about half of the

teaspoon.

For the adrenals, I would just make sure you are getting enough

Vitamin C and the other nutrients, (Pantothenic Acid, Vit E, B6, and

there are adrenal herbs as well--licorice root, ginseng). You can

also take DHEA and pregnenolone by pill to help your adrenals with

hormone production.

It's so hard with the current medical system...I don't know the

English one, but I do know that even in America it is maddening to

get the doctors to understand some basic ideas of subclinical

manifestations of hormonal imbalance! We are headed for a medical

meltdown, not to mention an economic meltdown if these doctors can't

learn to recognize the kinds of hormonal issues people are dealing

with. We are like the canary bird in the mine...we who have been sick

from our implants are an indication of what is going on on a small

scale due to toxicity. But with the toxins, poisons and pollution

all people are getting everywhere, we are seeing more and more

autoimmune disease, more people with adrenal issues and thyroid

issues (it's now called stress and depression, which they treat with

more drugs, what a slippery slope they are on!), to the point that

what I see in the future is a very messed up world with very poor

health! OUr endocrine systems are going to just freak!

Yikes!

Patty

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > >

> > > > The foot bath Krista is talking about is made by the people

who

> > > sell them . . . They cost far less than other foot baths . .

but

> do

> > > the same job. . . minus the fancy case and computer tracking

> > > stuff. . . They'll last much longer and costs much less to

> replace

> > > the arrays . . . A really good deal.! The ebay price is half

that

> > of

> > > the IonicOasis.com website.

> > > >

> > > > If you offer them $25 less than their " buy it

now " price,

> they'll

> > > likely take it.

> > > >

> > > > Rogene

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Patty,

I have just looked up progesterone and I

can get it here.

One make I found has these ingredients …what

do you think.

Natural progesterone

Tocotrienal (vit E )

PRIMROSE OIL

ALOE VERA

MSM

GRAPE SEED EXTRACT

Does this one sound ok?

Its only £15.00 so it seems reasonable.

Sue

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of glory2glory1401

Sent: 08 January 2008 16:44

Subject: Re: Foot Bath & uplifting

Story patty

Sue,

I buy my triple estrogen cream from England, they ship here. But I

guess they can't ship within their own country. How weird is that???

But hopefully you can get progesterone cream. I would start with that

anyway, because those with MS show low levels of this hormone, or a

poor ratio of progesterone and estrogen.

I bet you can order the progesterone cream over the net...can you

look and see? I would think you could, so let me know.

I just rub a small spot of cream on my areas of thin skin, like

behind the knees, in the elbows, on the chest or neck, and inner

thigh. The LifeFlo comes with a pump dispenser which is really

nice...it's already measured. The estrogen cream I use comes with a

spoon, but I find that it is too much. I use about half of the

teaspoon.

For the adrenals, I would just make sure you are getting enough

Vitamin C and the other nutrients, (Pantothenic Acid, Vit E, B6, and

there are adrenal herbs as well--licorice root, ginseng). You can

also take DHEA and pregnenolone by pill to help your adrenals with

hormone production.

It's so hard with the current medical system...I don't know the

English one, but I do know that even in America it is maddening to

get the doctors to understand some basic ideas of subclinical

manifestations of hormonal imbalance! We are headed for a medical

meltdown, not to mention an economic meltdown if these doctors can't

learn to recognize the kinds of hormonal issues people are dealing

with. We are like the canary bird in the mine...we who have been sick

from our implants are an indication of what is going on on a small

scale due to toxicity. But with the toxins, poisons and pollution

all people are getting everywhere, we are seeing more and more

autoimmune disease, more people with adrenal issues and thyroid

issues (it's now called stress and depression, which they treat with

more drugs, what a slippery slope they are on!), to the point that

what I see in the future is a very messed up world with very poor

health! OUr endocrine systems are going to just freak!

Yikes!

Patty

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > >

> > > > The foot bath Krista is talking about is made by the people

who

> > > sell them . . . They cost far less than other foot baths . .

but

> do

> > > the same job. . . minus the fancy case and computer tracking

> > > stuff. . . They'll last much longer and costs much less to

> replace

> > > the arrays . . . A really good deal.! The ebay price is half

that

> > of

> > > the IonicOasis.com website.

> > > >

> > > > If you offer them $25 less than their " buy it

now " price,

> they'll

> > > likely take it.

> > > >

> > > > Rogene

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sue,

YOu definitely do NOT want to take the synthetics. Synthetics are

what cause those problems.

There is a huge difference between HRT with man-made patented, $$$$$$

producing fake hormones by greedy manufacturers, and natural, bio-

identical hormones that are an exact replication of what your body

produces naturally. Natural bio-identical hormones cannot be

patented, so they don't make anyone money. They are the last things

to be given out by doctors. But it is the very thing you want.

Usually HRT focuses on the estrogens primarily. Those are the ones

that are most often associated with cancer. (There is estradiol,

estrone and estriol, and each has a different cancer propensity, with

estriol actually being protective against cancer.)

But first of all, you will want to focus on the progesterone. And

second of all, estrogens should NEVER, EVER, EVER be taken without

progesterone! Women who are given HRT withouth progesterone

concurrently are headed for trouble.

Sue, you should do what you feel most comfortable with. But I hope

you will seriously consider at least the progesterone. If your

dizziness is in any way associated with MS like symptoms, you could

be feeling relief....just give it more thought. If you feel better,

you've got an answer. If you don't, you can stop it when you need to.

But I have a feeling you are going to feel better.

Do you think you can find a doctor who will consider the bio-

identical hormone replacement?

Patty

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > >

> > > > The foot bath Krista is talking about is made by the people

who

> > > sell them . . . They cost far less than other foot baths . .

but

> do

> > > the same job. . . minus the fancy case and computer tracking

> > > stuff. . . They'll last much longer and costs much less to

> replace

> > > the arrays . . . A really good deal.! The ebay price is half

that

> > of

> > > the IonicOasis.com website.

> > > >

> > > > If you offer them $25 less than their " buy it now " price,

> they'll

> > > likely take it.

> > > >

> > > > Rogene

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sue,

YOu definitely do NOT want to take the synthetics. Synthetics are

what cause those problems.

There is a huge difference between HRT with man-made patented, $$$$$$

producing fake hormones by greedy manufacturers, and natural, bio-

identical hormones that are an exact replication of what your body

produces naturally. Natural bio-identical hormones cannot be

patented, so they don't make anyone money. They are the last things

to be given out by doctors. But it is the very thing you want.

Usually HRT focuses on the estrogens primarily. Those are the ones

that are most often associated with cancer. (There is estradiol,

estrone and estriol, and each has a different cancer propensity, with

estriol actually being protective against cancer.)

But first of all, you will want to focus on the progesterone. And

second of all, estrogens should NEVER, EVER, EVER be taken without

progesterone! Women who are given HRT withouth progesterone

concurrently are headed for trouble.

Sue, you should do what you feel most comfortable with. But I hope

you will seriously consider at least the progesterone. If your

dizziness is in any way associated with MS like symptoms, you could

be feeling relief....just give it more thought. If you feel better,

you've got an answer. If you don't, you can stop it when you need to.

But I have a feeling you are going to feel better.

Do you think you can find a doctor who will consider the bio-

identical hormone replacement?

Patty

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > >

> > > > The foot bath Krista is talking about is made by the people

who

> > > sell them . . . They cost far less than other foot baths . .

but

> do

> > > the same job. . . minus the fancy case and computer tracking

> > > stuff. . . They'll last much longer and costs much less to

> replace

> > > the arrays . . . A really good deal.! The ebay price is half

that

> > of

> > > the IonicOasis.com website.

> > > >

> > > > If you offer them $25 less than their " buy it now " price,

> they'll

> > > likely take it.

> > > >

> > > > Rogene

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sue,

That's the one! Go for it!

Patty

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > >

> > > > > The foot bath Krista is talking about is made by the people

> who

> > > > sell them . . . They cost far less than other foot baths . .

> but

> > do

> > > > the same job. . . minus the fancy case and computer tracking

> > > > stuff. . . They'll last much longer and costs much less to

> > replace

> > > > the arrays . . . A really good deal.! The ebay price is half

> that

> > > of

> > > > the IonicOasis.com website.

> > > > >

> > > > > If you offer them $25 less than their " buy it now " price,

> > they'll

> > > > likely take it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rogene

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sue,

That's the one! Go for it!

Patty

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > >

> > > > > The foot bath Krista is talking about is made by the people

> who

> > > > sell them . . . They cost far less than other foot baths . .

> but

> > do

> > > > the same job. . . minus the fancy case and computer tracking

> > > > stuff. . . They'll last much longer and costs much less to

> > replace

> > > > the arrays . . . A really good deal.! The ebay price is half

> that

> > > of

> > > > the IonicOasis.com website.

> > > > >

> > > > > If you offer them $25 less than their " buy it now " price,

> > they'll

> > > > likely take it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rogene

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ok I have ordered it; I hope it doesn’t

take long before I see some improvement.

I am hopeful this will work.

Sue

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of glory2glory1401

Sent: 08 January 2008 17:01

Subject: Re: Foot Bath & uplifting

Story patty

Sue,

That's the one! Go for it!

Patty

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > >

> > > > > The foot bath Krista is talking about is made by the

people

> who

> > > > sell them . . . They cost far less than other foot baths .

..

> but

> > do

> > > > the same job. . . minus the fancy case and computer

tracking

> > > > stuff. . . They'll last much longer and costs much less to

> > replace

> > > > the arrays . . . A really good deal.! The ebay price is

half

> that

> > > of

> > > > the IonicOasis.com website.

> > > > >

> > > > > If you offer them $25 less than their " buy it

now " price,

> > they'll

> > > > likely take it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rogene

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ok I have ordered it; I hope it doesn’t

take long before I see some improvement.

I am hopeful this will work.

Sue

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of glory2glory1401

Sent: 08 January 2008 17:01

Subject: Re: Foot Bath & uplifting

Story patty

Sue,

That's the one! Go for it!

Patty

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > >

> > > > > The foot bath Krista is talking about is made by the

people

> who

> > > > sell them . . . They cost far less than other foot baths .

..

> but

> > do

> > > > the same job. . . minus the fancy case and computer

tracking

> > > > stuff. . . They'll last much longer and costs much less to

> > replace

> > > > the arrays . . . A really good deal.! The ebay price is

half

> that

> > > of

> > > > the IonicOasis.com website.

> > > > >

> > > > > If you offer them $25 less than their " buy it

now " price,

> > they'll

> > > > likely take it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rogene

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I will be anxious to hear....

Keep me posted! Be sure to give it a few weeks at least!

Patty

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The foot bath Krista is talking about is made by the

people

> > who

> > > > > sell them . . . They cost far less than other foot

baths . .

> > but

> > > do

> > > > > the same job. . . minus the fancy case and computer

tracking

> > > > > stuff. . . They'll last much longer and costs much less to

> > > replace

> > > > > the arrays . . . A really good deal.! The ebay price is

half

> > that

> > > > of

> > > > > the IonicOasis.com website.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If you offer them $25 less than their " buy it now " price,

> > > they'll

> > > > > likely take it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rogene

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I will be anxious to hear....

Keep me posted! Be sure to give it a few weeks at least!

Patty

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The foot bath Krista is talking about is made by the

people

> > who

> > > > > sell them . . . They cost far less than other foot

baths . .

> > but

> > > do

> > > > > the same job. . . minus the fancy case and computer

tracking

> > > > > stuff. . . They'll last much longer and costs much less to

> > > replace

> > > > > the arrays . . . A really good deal.! The ebay price is

half

> > that

> > > > of

> > > > > the IonicOasis.com website.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If you offer them $25 less than their " buy it now " price,

> > > they'll

> > > > > likely take it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rogene

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Patty, which brand do you use? Are the ingredients in the cream safe

and not toxic?

Steph

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > >

> > > > > The foot bath Krista is talking about is made by the people

> who

> > > > sell them . . . They cost far less than other foot baths . .

> but

> > do

> > > > the same job. . . minus the fancy case and computer tracking

> > > > stuff. . . They'll last much longer and costs much less to

> > replace

> > > > the arrays . . . A really good deal.! The ebay price is half

> that

> > > of

> > > > the IonicOasis.com website.

> > > > >

> > > > > If you offer them $25 less than their " buy it now " price,

> > they'll

> > > > likely take it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rogene

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Patty, which brand do you use? Are the ingredients in the cream safe

and not toxic?

Steph

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > >

> > > > > The foot bath Krista is talking about is made by the people

> who

> > > > sell them . . . They cost far less than other foot baths . .

> but

> > do

> > > > the same job. . . minus the fancy case and computer tracking

> > > > stuff. . . They'll last much longer and costs much less to

> > replace

> > > > the arrays . . . A really good deal.! The ebay price is half

> that

> > > of

> > > > the IonicOasis.com website.

> > > > >

> > > > > If you offer them $25 less than their " buy it now " price,

> > they'll

> > > > likely take it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rogene

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sue,

Have you tried to take a liquid mineral supplement?

You might be able to handle that, vs. capsules or tablets.

It doesn't need the binders, and is absorbed by the digestive system much better.

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Rogene,

Do you know one that is not in citric? I had big problems with tat.

BTW, no response yet from 's Ministry.

Lynda

At 01:43 PM 1/8/2008, you wrote:

>Sue,

>

>Have you tried to take a liquid mineral supplement?

>

>You might be able to handle that, vs. capsules or tablets.

>

>It doesn't need the binders, and is absorbed by the digestive system

>much better.

>

>Hugs,

>

>Rogene

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

No Lynda,

I don't know of a liquid mineral not in citric . . . I'm sure that's done to help the taste . . . I don't like it either!

Maybe you could check with some of the supplement manufacturers. - Have you checked the Standard process brand?

I hope you hear from the 's Ministers . . . I don't know what their capablity is where you are. Hopefully they can help you. The worst they can do is say No . . .

It might take them a little time to make arrangements if they do decide they can help you.

Love,

Rogene