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June 23, 2006

I just logged on after not being on for several years. I was looking

for a rheumy for my friends daughter. I just told he she MUST use

antiboitics!

I too joined the list around 1996, my story is still posted

on the " patients history " page. I too think about many of the people

you list. Occasionally Lisbeth (in New Zealand )and I write. Carol

(Carol E., I think you write on this list occasionally) and I live

near each other and we still take antibiotics and visit our

doctor in NJ together. Debby G and I talk regularly since we both

are also using photopheresis. Our doctor told me today he plans

to " write us up " for a medical journal since we have done so well

(our SD was very advanced with lung damage, so we added photo. to

our antibiotics) I continue to stay stable, and feel well (although

I am using photopheresis and gamma globulin since I also have

a " primary immune deficiency " )

Even though my path had to include additional treatments, I

truly believe that the antibiotics was a major part of my remission.

Hope you are all well, Take care of yourselves,

>

> Interesting timing. For awhile now I have been thinking of the

list as it was. I joined around 1996, I believe.

> I often wonder about some of the listers. a P. posts once in

a while, Ute just recently and the Fairy Lady. Geoff is quiet. Joe

G. and Janet in Tulsa apparently are managing. I wonder about

C., Liz G., Bev in Ontario, Ray B., Dr. Chiu. No doubt I have

missed some folks. We were a community.

> Don't even hear about Dr. Franco either.

>

> Pray the ry

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September 3, 2006

hi eEthel,

I have just completed a de worming course, how long should i wait till i do

the coffee enama???

Thanks Lynn

Ethel Snooks <emsnooks@...> wrote:

From: " Rizun " <eorizun@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:30 AM

Hi Ethel. Can you tell me what is a good detox method.

That depends on the area you are detoxing because each area requires something

different. It is thought best to start with a good bowel cleanse - one that will

remove the impacted fecal matter - and repeat it again later. Colonics would be

an excellent way to detox the bowel. You can ask at any good health food store

and they should be able to tell you who offers this service in your area. I

remember an RA patient in Texas telling me how many pounds she lost doing 5 days

of colonics. She drank a lot of organic apple juice before and during the

therapy. After the series was completed, a good probiotic was implanted to

replace any good bacteria lost in the procedure. Other colon therapists offer

herbs to clean the bowel. www.blessedherbs.com has a kit for several hundred

dollars.

Remember, 70% of immune function takes place in the gut. When it's out of

balance - watch out!

The well known herbalist, Dr. Schulze has a good oral bowel cleanse

called Intestinal I and Intestinal II. It's reasonable and effective. I go

through cleanses at least every six months and sometimes use this one.

www.herbdoc.com. You need to drink a LOT of water with this or any other such

cleanse.

The doctors I know who prescribe cleanses do a parasite cleanse before doing a

liver/gallbladder cleanse.

I've used Dr. Hulda 's parasite cleanse

(http://www..net/info/p_chart.htm) and also Premier Research Labs'

Parastat and Paracidin starting with one capsule three times a day and building

up to three capsules three tmes a day. I know these give results so I stick with

them.

There are a number of good liver/gallbladder cleanses on the net but the one I

like best was given to me by a doctor who battled breast cancer metastcized to

the bone, followed by what she diagnosed as MCTD. This was one sick doctor when

I met her. Her arms and legs were hard and bronze colored. I introduced her to

the AP protocol and she was juicing and detoxing. She also did DMSO IVs after

learning about them from Dr. s at Oregon State University.

I will post this liver cleanse separately. You need to repeat this cleanse until

you clean the area out. You will be amazed at what you see and how much of it is

there.

You also need to consider being tested for heavy metal toxicity. www.gsdl.com.

Intravenous chelation is sometimes used and then there is another product giving

good results called -

PCA-Rx by Maxam Neutraceutics - www.maxamlabs.com

It is said to act as a chelator of heavy metals, cardio and vascular plaque,

removes toxins and help rid body of mycoplasmas.

Dosage is 1 to 8 oral sprays - mist (trans-mucosal) 1 or more times daily

Another good product winning good reviews is NDF and NDF Plus from BioRay, Inc.

www.bioray2000.com

Dr. recommends the following:

Blend in blender - 1 clove garlic

½ cup almonds, cashews or other nuts

1 cup packed fresh cilantro leaves

2 tablespoons fresh lemon juice

6 tablespoons olive oil

Two teaspoons a day for two to three weeks. Freezes well so make several

batches.

(Liquid 3 to 1 ratio of oil to juice. Add touch of hot water to scrape blender.

Check for neurotoxins often present in chronic disease.

www.chronicneurotoxins.com. There is a visual test on this site you can take for

a nominal fee.

Several years ago a doctor handed me a brochure about a place (I think) called

Blueberry Hill. He said one of his patients had gone there and in 7 days (!) had

made a remarkable recovery from a debilitating illness. (I've forgotten the

diagnosis. Blueberry Hill was a home surrounded by landscaped acreage - a very

quiet, serene place. You were not allowed to talk on the phone, see friends or

family, or do any work.) The doctor decided to send another patient, and then

another, and the same thing occurred. He told me he was so impressed he was

going to take a week off and go himself. What was the therapy? Detoxing the body

and enhancing the immune system through diet and supplements.

My daughter, a nurse, tells me back in the early 70s, one of the first things

they did when a patient was put in the hospital was to give them an enema. She

said you would be surprised at how many patients recovered from their illness

after the enema, but this practice was stopped years ago.

Please let me know if something isn't clear or you have questions.

Ethel

Ethel Snooks <emsnooks@...> wrote: The Fairy Lady (dermatomyositis)

made a complete recovery after changing her

diet and incorporating detoxing as part of her therapy. Upon remission she

studied to be a nutritionist and now has her own shop.

Ethel

rheumatic re: group

>

> Interesting timing. For awhile now I have been thinking of the list as it

> was. I joined around 1996, I believe.

> I often wonder about some of the listers. a P. posts once in a while,

> Ute just recently and the Fairy Lady. Geoff is quiet. Joe G. and Janet

> in Tulsa apparently are managing. I wonder about C., Liz G., Bev in

> Ontario, Ray B., Dr. Chiu. No doubt I have missed some folks. We were a

> community.

> Don't even hear about Dr. Franco either.

>

> Pray the ry

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February 27, 2008

Sandy ~

I would ask for the screw........

that way you can see if there was

any problem with it, even tho you wont

be able to see what your bodies reaction

was.

tell them you got screwed and you

want the memory of it in a jar.....

Happy Hump Day ! Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.

February 27, 2008

Sandy ~

I would ask for the screw........

that way you can see if there was

any problem with it, even tho you wont

be able to see what your bodies reaction

was.

tell them you got screwed and you

want the memory of it in a jar.....

Happy Hump Day ! Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.

February 27, 2008

My Family Physician

My family physician called in a perscription

The pharmacist called me at home and said the

perscription is an over the counter laxitve drink.

Orthopedic doctor -

I was explaining my immune system

and what the implants did to me.

His body talk indicated he did not believe me

whatsoever and smirking to hide his laughter

He said it would not hurt to leave the screw in my foot

I said no, it's got to go ASAP

I now have surger April 1'st

I can only imagine

what this old screw looks like

My only true caring support is at

I'd suggest taking the med your doctor recommends,

then follow up with the others later.Hugs,Rogene

February 27, 2008

My Family Physician

My family physician called in a perscription

The pharmacist called me at home and said the

perscription is an over the counter laxitve drink.

Orthopedic doctor -

I was explaining my immune system

and what the implants did to me.

His body talk indicated he did not believe me

whatsoever and smirking to hide his laughter

He said it would not hurt to leave the screw in my foot

I said no, it's got to go ASAP

I now have surger April 1'st

I can only imagine

what this old screw looks like

My only true caring support is at

I'd suggest taking the med your doctor recommends,

then follow up with the others later.Hugs,Rogene

February 27, 2008

Sandy,Discussing anything related to implants seldom elicits a good response from physicians. It's generally best just to deal with the symptoms. Once you are feeling better, you might tell him/her more about implants.They are so brainwashed, they're not likely to be very sympathetic. Are you doing any better today?Hugs,Rogene

February 27, 2008

Sandy,

I believe you are doing the right thing girlfriend!

Congratulations on getting your surgery scheduled.

That doctor's response is so typical. I can just see him smirking

and acting arrogant. It's so sad that they think they are gods.

Please forgive me for always being so down on doctors. I know some

of them are good and do good work. When I speak generally about

doctors in such negative ways, it is because I've seen and heard so

many horrible, terrible stories of the ways people have been treated,

and how dumb and ignorant some of these doctors really are, that it

makes me sick. I know I shouldn't stereotype doctors as all being

dumb and ignorant, because some of them are truly good. But I'd

still say that 90% of doctors are dumb and ignorant!!!! They think

they know everything when they really have got no clue about

nutrition and natural healing and how the body really works sometimes.

This doctor's response that it wouldn't hurt to leave the screw in

your foot indicates that he really does not understand how complex

the immune system is. You, my friend, are smarter than he.

Remember my trouble with my knee after I got my root canals, and how

I was limping around and in much pain?

Remember how my knee pain disappeared after those root canals were

removed? Now if I went around telling doctors that my knee pain was

due to my root canals, they would laugh me out of the room!!! But,

as God is my witness, that is exactly what it was! I have not had

knee pain to this day ever again! Only during that time frame that I

had root canals!

Sandy, your intuition is working for you. Stand your ground. I bet

that old screw is a nasty thing and I am praying that once it is

removed, you will see some healing.

God bless,

Patty

>

> My Family Physician

> My family physician called in a perscription

> The pharmacist called me at home and said the

> perscription is an over the counter laxitve drink.

>

> Orthopedic doctor -

> I was explaining my immune system

> and what the implants did to me.

>

> His body talk indicated he did not believe me

> whatsoever and smirking to hide his laughter

>

> He said it would not hurt to leave the screw in my foot

> I said no, it's got to go ASAP

> I now have surger April 1'st

>

> I can only imagine

> what this old screw looks like

>

> My only true caring support is at

>

> I'd suggest taking the med your doctor recommends,

> then follow up with the others later.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

February 27, 2008