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Hi Chie,

>>>not my husband, all he thinks of is what food i would cook for him for

>>>the day and serve him like a slave (our tradition)<<<

Have you thought about printing up some of the information you have learned

from group, some posts and examples of what is going on with you, maybe even

your own posts that you have described how horrible you have felt...put them

on a plate and SERVE THEM TO HIM! Tell him when he is done reading them, he

will get the *food* for his belly?

Might be something to think about, besides, you are in this country now, not

the country of your origin, and you know what they say, " When in Rome, do as

the Romans do " ...besides, slavery has been gone in this country for a long

time. Time for hubby to realize this!

Talk to you soon,

Jody

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Hi Chie,

>>>not my husband, all he thinks of is what food i would cook for him for

>>>the day and serve him like a slave (our tradition)<<<

Have you thought about printing up some of the information you have learned

from group, some posts and examples of what is going on with you, maybe even

your own posts that you have described how horrible you have felt...put them

on a plate and SERVE THEM TO HIM! Tell him when he is done reading them, he

will get the *food* for his belly?

Might be something to think about, besides, you are in this country now, not

the country of your origin, and you know what they say, " When in Rome, do as

the Romans do " ...besides, slavery has been gone in this country for a long

time. Time for hubby to realize this!

Talk to you soon,

Jody

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Hi Deb!

Thank you so much for directing me to the link where Shani, you, and others

posted what they are going through. I am so sorry that everyone is having to

go through all of this " crap " that Grave's forces us to face in our lives.

Remember YOU too are not alone, and it really is such a wonderful thing that

all of you, us, are willing to share in this! Support is SO important!

I read most of what was posted on the link to Joe and he listened and agreed

with what everyone said about their feelings -- it really helps him to know

he's not a monster (he keeps telling me this, although I know that), and that

he's not alone. He also said that he's really thankful that I joined the

group so that I can better understand what it is he's going through.

I know he is carrying a lot of guilt right now for his unpredictable

behavior, but I've told him that with each new day he must wake up and first

forgive himself, as I forgive him. It's very difficult for him to do that as

he knows he's already put our relationship through a lot. But I reassure him

several times a day that we will get through this -- that it's worth it and

we'll make it.

Hang in there and thank you so much Deb!

Ann ;)

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Hi Deb!

Thank you so much for directing me to the link where Shani, you, and others

posted what they are going through. I am so sorry that everyone is having to

go through all of this " crap " that Grave's forces us to face in our lives.

Remember YOU too are not alone, and it really is such a wonderful thing that

all of you, us, are willing to share in this! Support is SO important!

I read most of what was posted on the link to Joe and he listened and agreed

with what everyone said about their feelings -- it really helps him to know

he's not a monster (he keeps telling me this, although I know that), and that

he's not alone. He also said that he's really thankful that I joined the

group so that I can better understand what it is he's going through.

I know he is carrying a lot of guilt right now for his unpredictable

behavior, but I've told him that with each new day he must wake up and first

forgive himself, as I forgive him. It's very difficult for him to do that as

he knows he's already put our relationship through a lot. But I reassure him

several times a day that we will get through this -- that it's worth it and

we'll make it.

Hang in there and thank you so much Deb!

Ann ;)

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Thank you Jody!

I want you to know that I absolutely would never take offense to anything you

have to contribute! :) I, truthfully, feel fortunate that I am not the one

with Grave's. I have, as you know, conquered my own disease and have learned

to live -- happily even! -- in having Type 1 diabetes for 18 years! Having

the disease yourself is an entirely personal journey.

Fortunately Joe has been asking his endo the right questions, and I received

the two books you mentioned from and Noble two weeks ago! What Joe is

discovering is that there is a great deal to learn about this disease. He is

finding that there is no " quick fix. " I honestly feel he thought RAI would

make it go away and all would be well. He is grateful for me learning so

much about it and it has opened up the floor for open dialogue between us on

his emotional and physical state. We discuss how he's feeling on a daily

basis and are watching for changes -- like, are his legs tired form working

or is it Grave's symptoms?

I truly believe that we are the turning point in his discovery that he has

much to discover. And I'll be right here with him discovering! My poor

baby! I wish with all of my spirit that I could take away all this suffering

he is going through. I am doing all I can. And I think now he knows for

certain that I am by his side for better or worse; that brings him much

comfort.

Thanks again Jody.

Ann :)

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On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 11:39:17 -0400 " Jody Spitale "

writes:

> Hi Chie,

> >>>not my husband, all he thinks of is what food i would cook for

> him for

> >>>the day and serve him like a slave (our tradition)<<<

I debated saying anything but changed my mind - here goes. I have a very

traditional household - my husband brings home the " bacon, " I fry it up

in a pan. He works very hard for us, with next to no time to unwind. He

comes home to supper, homework, bedtime, and a few nights a week, night

school.

I think that what got us all reacting to Chie's message was the way she

phrased it. Personally, I don't think some of the advice given will be

constructive. What might help is saying something like this: " Something

isn't working if I feel like a slave. Please bear with me while I get my

health back. It might mean a slackening of the standards you've got used

to, less elaborate meals, more takeout etc. " You may want to get regular

cleaning help.

You need to gently explain his role in regaining your health. Once he

feels that you will still take care of him to the best of your abilities

you can take stock of your life and see what kind of pressures and

attitudes that you have to deal with might have led to the stress that

got you ill to begin with. Do you have any kind of a network, social,

cultural, or religious, of friends or older women who know where you're

coming from, that you can discuss these issues with? A traditional

lifestyle per se is not something you need to feel bad about or have to

defend.

Take care, Fay

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On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 11:39:17 -0400 " Jody Spitale "

writes:

> Hi Chie,

> >>>not my husband, all he thinks of is what food i would cook for

> him for

> >>>the day and serve him like a slave (our tradition)<<<

I debated saying anything but changed my mind - here goes. I have a very

traditional household - my husband brings home the " bacon, " I fry it up

in a pan. He works very hard for us, with next to no time to unwind. He

comes home to supper, homework, bedtime, and a few nights a week, night

school.

I think that what got us all reacting to Chie's message was the way she

phrased it. Personally, I don't think some of the advice given will be

constructive. What might help is saying something like this: " Something

isn't working if I feel like a slave. Please bear with me while I get my

health back. It might mean a slackening of the standards you've got used

to, less elaborate meals, more takeout etc. " You may want to get regular

cleaning help.

You need to gently explain his role in regaining your health. Once he

feels that you will still take care of him to the best of your abilities

you can take stock of your life and see what kind of pressures and

attitudes that you have to deal with might have led to the stress that

got you ill to begin with. Do you have any kind of a network, social,

cultural, or religious, of friends or older women who know where you're

coming from, that you can discuss these issues with? A traditional

lifestyle per se is not something you need to feel bad about or have to

defend.

Take care, Fay

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On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 11:39:17 -0400 " Jody Spitale "

writes:

> Hi Chie,

> >>>not my husband, all he thinks of is what food i would cook for

> him for

> >>>the day and serve him like a slave (our tradition)<<<

I debated saying anything but changed my mind - here goes. I have a very

traditional household - my husband brings home the " bacon, " I fry it up

in a pan. He works very hard for us, with next to no time to unwind. He

comes home to supper, homework, bedtime, and a few nights a week, night

school.

I think that what got us all reacting to Chie's message was the way she

phrased it. Personally, I don't think some of the advice given will be

constructive. What might help is saying something like this: " Something

isn't working if I feel like a slave. Please bear with me while I get my

health back. It might mean a slackening of the standards you've got used

to, less elaborate meals, more takeout etc. " You may want to get regular

cleaning help.

You need to gently explain his role in regaining your health. Once he

feels that you will still take care of him to the best of your abilities

you can take stock of your life and see what kind of pressures and

attitudes that you have to deal with might have led to the stress that

got you ill to begin with. Do you have any kind of a network, social,

cultural, or religious, of friends or older women who know where you're

coming from, that you can discuss these issues with? A traditional

lifestyle per se is not something you need to feel bad about or have to

defend.

Take care, Fay

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