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Rogene...I am in the process of searching it. Basically, my body can not get rid of the iron and I have an "overload" of iron. I know I took iron pills both times when I was pregnant......not sure if that effects it or not if I was unable to rid the excess.

She said it is called "iron toxicity" and it is very dangerous. So much for my nice relaxing day without the kids huh.... :) Anyways, I have stopped researching it because once again....it scares the heck out of me. I will just wait to talk to my ND here locally and see what he says. I may even call her back and try to get more info. However, I am sure she will tell me the worst of it to try to get me to buy her supplement plan.......

Basically, from what I could see, the best way to get rid of the iron is to go give blood one step at a time till levels are back to normal. they also have iron chelating also.......

Much Love,

Beth

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Beth,Iron toxins is a new term to me . . . Let us know what you find out.Hugs,Rogene

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Rogene...I am in the process of searching it. Basically, my body can not get rid of the iron and I have an "overload" of iron. I know I took iron pills both times when I was pregnant......not sure if that effects it or not if I was unable to rid the excess.

She said it is called "iron toxicity" and it is very dangerous. So much for my nice relaxing day without the kids huh.... :) Anyways, I have stopped researching it because once again....it scares the heck out of me. I will just wait to talk to my ND here locally and see what he says. I may even call her back and try to get more info. However, I am sure she will tell me the worst of it to try to get me to buy her supplement plan.......

Basically, from what I could see, the best way to get rid of the iron is to go give blood one step at a time till levels are back to normal. they also have iron chelating also.......

Much Love,

Beth

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Beth,Iron toxins is a new term to me . . . Let us know what you find out.Hugs,Rogene

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Beth,I have heard of too much iron . . . Donating blood is one option. However, if you've had implants, you may not be qualified as a donor. . . The blood banks don't ask though. I donated blood for years before I learned this. Nobody stopped me. But when I told them, they quit calling for donations.Some people with it donate blood very frequently for this reason.I wonder if foot baths would pull iron out? . . The pull out other heavy metals. . . Lately we learned that fungus loves metals in the body.It sounds like she's onto something here.Hugs,Rogene Re: Iron problems

Beth,Iron toxins is a new term to me . . . Let us know what you find out.Hugs,Rogene

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Beth,I have heard of too much iron . . . Donating blood is one option. However, if you've had implants, you may not be qualified as a donor. . . The blood banks don't ask though. I donated blood for years before I learned this. Nobody stopped me. But when I told them, they quit calling for donations.Some people with it donate blood very frequently for this reason.I wonder if foot baths would pull iron out? . . The pull out other heavy metals. . . Lately we learned that fungus loves metals in the body.It sounds like she's onto something here.Hugs,Rogene Re: Iron problems

Beth,Iron toxins is a new term to me . . . Let us know what you find out.Hugs,Rogene

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Patty,

What about being Anemia does that mean you should supplement with iron too?

In a message dated 2/21/2008 10:39:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, glory2glory1401@... writes:

Beth,I was confused because I thought you said that you didn't have too much iron, just that your body didn't know what to do with it. So, you do have too much?Iron supplements are not normally needed. I read a book years ago called Iron and Your Heart (I think that was the name) and it discussed the tragic consequences of the slick marketing that happened with iron supplements. Anyone remember the slogan "iron-poor blood" from the makers of Geritol? They blitzed America and everyone started taking Geritol because they thought they had iron poor blood, but it wasn't needed. As a result, some people just had way too much iron in the body and it is not a good thing for the heart. Even my mother-in-law was taking iron tablets while she was post-menopausal, thinking she was doing a good thing! I set her straight!If you have periods, you lose blood every month, so that would be the only time it would be necessary to supplement. But even then, it would only be necessary to supplement if you were tested low in iron.When you have too much iron, you are correct...the only way to reduce it is to give blood.Patty >> Rogene...I am in the process of searching it. Basically, my body can not get rid of the iron and I have an "overload" of iron. I know I took iron pills both times when I was pregnant......not sure if that effects it or not if I was unable to rid the excess.> > She said it is called "iron toxicity" and it is very dangerous. So much for my nice relaxing day without the kids huh.... :) Anyways, I have stopped researching it because once again....it scares the heck out of me. I will just wait to talk to my ND here locally and see what he says. I may even call her back and try to get more info. However, I am sure she will tell me the worst of it to try to get me to buy her supplement plan.......> > Basically, from what I could see, the best way to get rid of the iron is to go give blood one step at a time till levels are back to normal. they also have iron chelating also.......> > Much Love,> Beth> > > Re: Iron problems> > Beth,> > Iron toxins is a new term to me . . . Let us know what you find out.> > Hugs,> > Rogene> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________> Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ> Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.

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Patty,

What about being Anemia does that mean you should supplement with iron too?

In a message dated 2/21/2008 10:39:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, glory2glory1401@... writes:

Beth,I was confused because I thought you said that you didn't have too much iron, just that your body didn't know what to do with it. So, you do have too much?Iron supplements are not normally needed. I read a book years ago called Iron and Your Heart (I think that was the name) and it discussed the tragic consequences of the slick marketing that happened with iron supplements. Anyone remember the slogan "iron-poor blood" from the makers of Geritol? They blitzed America and everyone started taking Geritol because they thought they had iron poor blood, but it wasn't needed. As a result, some people just had way too much iron in the body and it is not a good thing for the heart. Even my mother-in-law was taking iron tablets while she was post-menopausal, thinking she was doing a good thing! I set her straight!If you have periods, you lose blood every month, so that would be the only time it would be necessary to supplement. But even then, it would only be necessary to supplement if you were tested low in iron.When you have too much iron, you are correct...the only way to reduce it is to give blood.Patty >> Rogene...I am in the process of searching it. Basically, my body can not get rid of the iron and I have an "overload" of iron. I know I took iron pills both times when I was pregnant......not sure if that effects it or not if I was unable to rid the excess.> > She said it is called "iron toxicity" and it is very dangerous. So much for my nice relaxing day without the kids huh.... :) Anyways, I have stopped researching it because once again....it scares the heck out of me. I will just wait to talk to my ND here locally and see what he says. I may even call her back and try to get more info. However, I am sure she will tell me the worst of it to try to get me to buy her supplement plan.......> > Basically, from what I could see, the best way to get rid of the iron is to go give blood one step at a time till levels are back to normal. they also have iron chelating also.......> > Much Love,> Beth> > > Re: Iron problems> > Beth,> > Iron toxins is a new term to me . . . Let us know what you find out.> > Hugs,> > Rogene> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________> Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ> Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.

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Beth,

The only thing that comes to mind about this is that when there are

heavy metals in the body, such as mercury, they can actually take the

place of the spot of the iron in the red blood cell, causing fatigue

from a lack of oxygen. I hope I am saying that right...I need to

look everything back up, and I don't have the time to do that

properly, but I would suggest looking into the heavy metal issues and

doing a proper detox of metals if that is the issue.

Patty

>

> I just got off the phone with the ND that ran my first hair

anaylsis. I do not plan on going back to her as she is very rude and

expensive. I have found someone closer and I plan to call their

office Monday to ask some of these questions but I thought I would

run it past everyone here to see if anyone has had this problem or

knows anything about this....

>

> My ND said one of my problems that came back on my hair analysis

was iron. She said I have iron toxins. Basically, it is not that I

have too much iron, it is just that my body does not know what to do

with the iron. She said this could be causing alot of symptoms such

as dizziness, fatigue, ect....... Just wondering if anyone knows how

to go about correcting this on my own. I plan to do an interent

search on it also....

>

> Much Love,

> Beth

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Beth,

The only thing that comes to mind about this is that when there are

heavy metals in the body, such as mercury, they can actually take the

place of the spot of the iron in the red blood cell, causing fatigue

from a lack of oxygen. I hope I am saying that right...I need to

look everything back up, and I don't have the time to do that

properly, but I would suggest looking into the heavy metal issues and

doing a proper detox of metals if that is the issue.

Patty

>

> I just got off the phone with the ND that ran my first hair

anaylsis. I do not plan on going back to her as she is very rude and

expensive. I have found someone closer and I plan to call their

office Monday to ask some of these questions but I thought I would

run it past everyone here to see if anyone has had this problem or

knows anything about this....

>

> My ND said one of my problems that came back on my hair analysis

was iron. She said I have iron toxins. Basically, it is not that I

have too much iron, it is just that my body does not know what to do

with the iron. She said this could be causing alot of symptoms such

as dizziness, fatigue, ect....... Just wondering if anyone knows how

to go about correcting this on my own. I plan to do an interent

search on it also....

>

> Much Love,

> Beth

>

>

>

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Beth,

I was confused because I thought you said that you didn't have too

much iron, just that your body didn't know what to do with it.

So, you do have too much?

Iron supplements are not normally needed. I read a book years ago

called Iron and Your Heart (I think that was the name) and it

discussed the tragic consequences of the slick marketing that

happened with iron supplements. Anyone remember the slogan " iron-

poor blood " from the makers of Geritol? They blitzed America and

everyone started taking Geritol because they thought they had iron

poor blood, but it wasn't needed. As a result, some people just had

way too much iron in the body and it is not a good thing for the

heart. Even my mother-in-law was taking iron tablets while she was

post-menopausal, thinking she was doing a good thing! I set her

straight!

If you have periods, you lose blood every month, so that would be the

only time it would be necessary to supplement. But even then, it

would only be necessary to supplement if you were tested low in iron.

When you have too much iron, you are correct...the only way to reduce

it is to give blood.

Patty

>

> Rogene...I am in the process of searching it. Basically, my body

can not get rid of the iron and I have an " overload " of iron. I know

I took iron pills both times when I was pregnant......not sure if

that effects it or not if I was unable to rid the excess.

>

> She said it is called " iron toxicity " and it is very dangerous. So

much for my nice relaxing day without the kids huh.... :) Anyways,

I have stopped researching it because once again....it scares the

heck out of me. I will just wait to talk to my ND here locally and

see what he says. I may even call her back and try to get more

info. However, I am sure she will tell me the worst of it to try to

get me to buy her supplement plan.......

>

> Basically, from what I could see, the best way to get rid of the

iron is to go give blood one step at a time till levels are back to

normal. they also have iron chelating also.......

>

> Much Love,

> Beth

>

>

> Re: Iron problems

>

> Beth,

>

> Iron toxins is a new term to me . . . Let us know what you find out.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Beth,

I was confused because I thought you said that you didn't have too

much iron, just that your body didn't know what to do with it.

So, you do have too much?

Iron supplements are not normally needed. I read a book years ago

called Iron and Your Heart (I think that was the name) and it

discussed the tragic consequences of the slick marketing that

happened with iron supplements. Anyone remember the slogan " iron-

poor blood " from the makers of Geritol? They blitzed America and

everyone started taking Geritol because they thought they had iron

poor blood, but it wasn't needed. As a result, some people just had

way too much iron in the body and it is not a good thing for the

heart. Even my mother-in-law was taking iron tablets while she was

post-menopausal, thinking she was doing a good thing! I set her

straight!

If you have periods, you lose blood every month, so that would be the

only time it would be necessary to supplement. But even then, it

would only be necessary to supplement if you were tested low in iron.

When you have too much iron, you are correct...the only way to reduce

it is to give blood.

Patty

>

> Rogene...I am in the process of searching it. Basically, my body

can not get rid of the iron and I have an " overload " of iron. I know

I took iron pills both times when I was pregnant......not sure if

that effects it or not if I was unable to rid the excess.

>

> She said it is called " iron toxicity " and it is very dangerous. So

much for my nice relaxing day without the kids huh.... :) Anyways,

I have stopped researching it because once again....it scares the

heck out of me. I will just wait to talk to my ND here locally and

see what he says. I may even call her back and try to get more

info. However, I am sure she will tell me the worst of it to try to

get me to buy her supplement plan.......

>

> Basically, from what I could see, the best way to get rid of the

iron is to go give blood one step at a time till levels are back to

normal. they also have iron chelating also.......

>

> Much Love,

> Beth

>

>

> Re: Iron problems

>

> Beth,

>

> Iron toxins is a new term to me . . . Let us know what you find out.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Patty - yeah, I am a little confused also. My ND is good at confusing me.......

Anyways, she just said my body does not appear to be able to handle the amount of iron in my body. I am not sure that I have too much as my body just does not know what to do with what I have.

As far as I know, I have never had an iron problem....when I was pregnant both times, I was given iron pills so I am not sure if that would have caused an elevation in iron and overloaded my body or if it is just that I am not handling the "normal" amounts of iron I have. So whether I have too much or just can not handle the normal amounts I have....I have no idea. She was not clear on that part.

I do know that my hair analysis she did had not shown any toxicity of heavy metals. They all fell under the "normal" range. I had hardly any traces of mercury show up.....

I am having another hair analysis done as we speak by the local ND. When I showed him the one I had done in Cincy (by the ND that says I have iron toxicity), he said that was one of the worst excuses for a hair analysis he has ever seen. I am at the point that I do not buy much of what the ND in Cincy is saying but when she said I had iron toxicity, I got concerned and wanted to see what you girls thought of it.

Wouldn't that show up in blood test???? I can always give blood....and yes, I still have periods so I will lose some that way.

Much Love,

Beth

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Patty - yeah, I am a little confused also. My ND is good at confusing me.......

Anyways, she just said my body does not appear to be able to handle the amount of iron in my body. I am not sure that I have too much as my body just does not know what to do with what I have.

As far as I know, I have never had an iron problem....when I was pregnant both times, I was given iron pills so I am not sure if that would have caused an elevation in iron and overloaded my body or if it is just that I am not handling the "normal" amounts of iron I have. So whether I have too much or just can not handle the normal amounts I have....I have no idea. She was not clear on that part.

I do know that my hair analysis she did had not shown any toxicity of heavy metals. They all fell under the "normal" range. I had hardly any traces of mercury show up.....

I am having another hair analysis done as we speak by the local ND. When I showed him the one I had done in Cincy (by the ND that says I have iron toxicity), he said that was one of the worst excuses for a hair analysis he has ever seen. I am at the point that I do not buy much of what the ND in Cincy is saying but when she said I had iron toxicity, I got concerned and wanted to see what you girls thought of it.

Wouldn't that show up in blood test???? I can always give blood....and yes, I still have periods so I will lose some that way.

Much Love,

Beth

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If your anemia is " iron deficiency anemia " then you need iron. But

you can have anemia that is not related to iron deficiency, but

rather from a low red blood cell count or low hemoglobin.

Before supplementing with iron, I would definitely be tested! There

are multivitamins that are iron-free because you don't want too much

iron, and many people don't need it. They get enough iron from their

diet.

Patty

> >

> > Rogene...I am in the process of searching it. Basically, my body

> can not get rid of the iron and I have an " overload " of iron. I

know

> I took iron pills both times when I was pregnant....I took iron

> that effects it or not if I was unable to rid the excess.

> >

> > She said it is called " iron toxicity " and it is very dangerous.

So

> much for my nice relaxing day without the kids huh.... :) Anyways,

> I have stopped researching it because once again....it scares the

> heck out of me. I will just wait to talk to my ND here locally and

> see what he says. I may even call her back and try to get more

> info. However, I am sure she will tell me the worst of it to try

to

> get me to buy her supplement plan.......

> >

> > Basically, from what I could see, the best way to get rid of the

> iron is to go give blood one step at a time till levels are back

to

> normal. they also have iron chelating also.......

> >

> > Much Love,

> > Beth

> >

> >

> > Re: Iron problems

> >

> > Beth,

> >

> > Iron toxins is a new term to me . . . Let us know what you find

out.

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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>

>

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If your anemia is " iron deficiency anemia " then you need iron. But

you can have anemia that is not related to iron deficiency, but

rather from a low red blood cell count or low hemoglobin.

Before supplementing with iron, I would definitely be tested! There

are multivitamins that are iron-free because you don't want too much

iron, and many people don't need it. They get enough iron from their

diet.

Patty

> >

> > Rogene...I am in the process of searching it. Basically, my body

> can not get rid of the iron and I have an " overload " of iron. I

know

> I took iron pills both times when I was pregnant....I took iron

> that effects it or not if I was unable to rid the excess.

> >

> > She said it is called " iron toxicity " and it is very dangerous.

So

> much for my nice relaxing day without the kids huh.... :) Anyways,

> I have stopped researching it because once again....it scares the

> heck out of me. I will just wait to talk to my ND here locally and

> see what he says. I may even call her back and try to get more

> info. However, I am sure she will tell me the worst of it to try

to

> get me to buy her supplement plan.......

> >

> > Basically, from what I could see, the best way to get rid of the

> iron is to go give blood one step at a time till levels are back

to

> normal. they also have iron chelating also.......

> >

> > Much Love,

> > Beth

> >

> >

> > Re: Iron problems

> >

> > Beth,

> >

> > Iron toxins is a new term to me . . . Let us know what you find

out.

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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>

>

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Thats for all you help...I just sent you a personal email with some more info on it.....

How are you feeling today????

Much Love,

Beth

Iron problems

Beth ~

I think that ND you were seeing was rude and didnt

like to explain things cuz of her intelligence level.

There are many things about iron in the body..

There are many tests you can have that tell the tell

of iron in your body.

http://www.questdia gnostics. com/kbase/ topic/medtest/ hw41550/descrip. htm

Test Overview

An iron test checks the amount of iron in the blood to see how well iron is metabolized in the body. Iron (Fe) is a mineral needed for hemoglobin, the protein in red blood cells that carries oxygen. Iron is also needed for energy, good muscle and organ function.

About 70% of the body's iron is bound to hemoglobin in red blood cells. The rest is bound to other proteins (transferrin in blood or ferritin in bone marrow) or stored in other body tissues. When red blood cells die, their iron is released and carried by transferrin to the bone marrow. In the bone marrow, iron is stored and used as needed to make new red blood cells.

The source of all the body's iron is food, such as liver and other meat, eggs, fish, and leafy green vegetables. The body needs more iron at times of growth (such as during adolescence) , for pregnancy, during breast-feeding, or at times when there are low levels of iron in the body (such as after bleeding).

Healthy adult men get enough iron from the food they eat. Men have enough reserves of iron in their bodies to last for several years, even if they take in no new iron. Men rarely develop an iron deficiency because of their diets. Women, however, can lose large amounts of iron because of menstrual bleeding, during pregnancy, or while breast-feeding. Therefore, women are more likely than men to develop an iron deficiency and may need to take an iron supplement.. Iron deficiency in men and in women past menopause is often from abnormal bleeding, often in the gastrointestinal tract, such as from stomach ulcers or colon cancer.

The iron test checks the:

Amount of iron bound to transferrin in the blood (serum). Amount of iron needed to bind to all of the transferrin. This value is called the total iron-binding capacity (TIBC). Percentage of transferrin with iron bound to them. This value is called transferrin saturation.

A test for iron is done to:

Check for iron deficiency anemia. Check for a condition called hemochromatosis. Check nutritional status. Check to see if iron and nutritional treatment is working.

Results

An iron test checks the amount of iron in the blood to see how well iron is metabolized in the body.

Normal

Normal results may vary from lab to lab.

Serum iron

Men:

80–180 micrograms per deciliter (µg/dL) or 14–32 micromoles per liter (µmol/L) (SI units)

Women:

60–160 µg/dL or 11–29 µmol/L

Children:

50-120 µg/dL

Total iron-binding capacity (TIBC)

Men and women:

250–450 µg/dL or 45–82 µmol/L

Transferrin saturation

Men:

20%–50%

Women:

15%–50%

High and low values

The values for serum iron, total iron-binding capacity (TIBC), and transferrin saturation are used to see whether a low amount of iron in the body is from iron deficiency anemia or another condition. The values are also used to see whether a high amount of iron is due to hemochromatosis or another condition. Other conditions that affect iron, TIBC, and transferrin saturation levels include:

Hemolytic anemia. This causes a low amount of oxygen-carrying hemoglobin found in red blood cells. The iron levels are often normal.. Thalassemia. This is a blood disorder that runs in families (inherited). It changes how the body makes hemoglobin. The iron levels are often normal, but ferritin levels may be high if the person has had a lot of blood transfusions. Cirrhosis. This is a condition that occurs when inflammation and scarring damage the liver. Lead poisoning. This develops from months or years of exposure to small amounts of lead in the environment. Iron deficiency anemia. This occurs when low iron levels cause a low amount of oxygen-carrying hemoglobin in red blood cells. The iron levels are low, the transferrin saturation is high, and the ferritin level is low. Rheumatoid arthritis. This form of arthritis inflames the membranes or tissues lining the joints. Overuse of iron supplements. Bleeding. Kidney failure. Severe infection.

What To Think About

Taking iron supplements for tiredness can mask an iron problem. Talk to your doctor about taking iron supplements. Iron levels change during the day. Iron tests are best done in the morning, when iron levels are highest. The results of an iron test are also checked with results of a complete blood count (CBC), ferritin, and transferrin tests. The ferritin test is often better than an iron test to see whether iron deficiency is present. An iron test and ferritin test are often done at the same time. For more information, see the medical tests Complete Blood Count (CBC) and Ferritin. A test called the siderocyte stain test checks the number of red blood cells that have particles of iron not bound to hemoglobin (siderocytes) . Normally, very low numbers of siderocytes are present in blood. High levels of siderocytes in adults may mean a type of anemia, iron overload, lead poisoning, hemochromatosis, or a severe infection are present. When iron deficiency anemia is diagnosed, the source of the anemia must be found and treated. Iron deficiency can be caused by long-term (chronic) blood loss from heavy menstrual bleeding, pregnancy, not enough iron in the diet, or bleeding inside the intestinal tract (from ulcers, colon polyps, colon cancer, hemorrhoids, or other conditions). In rare cases, too much iron may be lost through the skin (because of a disease such as psoriasis) or in the urine. Iron deficiency anemia can be easily treated with iron supplements, but the key is to identify it and stop the iron loss. Hemochromatosis can be treated with medicines to help the body get rid of extra iron. A procedure called a phlebotomy can also be done to remove iron from the body.Ferritin, which shows your iron stores:

http://www.questdia gnostics. com/kbase/ topic/medtest/ hw6212/descrip. htm

Test Overview

A ferritin blood test checks the amount of ferritin in the blood. Ferritin is a protein in the body that binds to iron; most of the iron stored in the body is bound to ferritin. Ferritin is found in the liver , spleen , skeletal muscles, and bone marrow. Only a small amount of ferritin is found in the blood. The amount of ferritin in the blood shows how much iron is stored in your body.

A ferritin blood test is done to:

Find the cause of anemia, especially iron deficiency anemia. See whether inflammation is present. See whether too much iron (hemochromatosis) is present. Check to see whether iron treatment to raise or lower the iron level is working.

Iron Storage (Ferritin)

Results

A ferritin blood test checks the amount of ferritin in the blood. Ferritin is a protein in the body that binds to iron; most of the iron stored in the body is bound to ferritin. The amount of ferritin found in the blood is the same amount that is in the body.

Normal

Normal values may vary from lab to lab.

Ferritin

Men:

12–300 nanograms per milliliter (ng/mL) or 12–300 micrograms per liter (mcg/L)

Women:

10–150 ng/mL or 10-150 mcg/L

Children 6 months to 15 years:

7–142 ng/mL

Babies 2 to 5 months:

50–200 ng/mL

Babies 1 month:

200–600 ng/mL

Newborn babies:

25–200 ng/mL

High values

Very high ferritin levels (greater than 1,000 ng/mL) can mean a large buildup of iron in the body (hemochromatosis). One form of this condition is passed on in families (genetic hemochromatosis) . Some diseases, including alcoholism, thalassemia, and some types of anemia that cause red blood cells to be destroyed, can also cause hemochromatosis. Also, if you have many blood transfusions, this can sometimes cause the body to store too much iron (acquired hemochromatosis) . High ferritin levels may also be caused by liver disease (cirrhosis or hepatitis), Hodgkin's disease, leukemia, infection, inflammatory conditions (such as arthritis or lupus), or a diet that is too high in iron. Too much iron in body organs, such as the pancreas or heart, can affect how the organ works.

Low values

Low ferritin levels often mean an iron deficiency is present. This can be caused by long-term (chronic) blood loss from heavy menstrual bleeding, pregnancy, not enough iron in the diet, or bleeding inside the intestinal tract (from ulcers, colon polyps, colon cancer, hemorrhoids, or other conditions). In rare cases, too much iron may be lost through the skin (because of a disease such as psoriasis) or in the urine.

What Affects the Test

Reasons you may not be able to have the test or why the results may not be helpful include:

Having a blood transfusion in the past 4 months. Being a female athlete doing sports that change the menstrual cycle. Having conditions that cause inflammation in the body, such as from illness or from a surgery. Having a radioactive scan in the past 3 days. Taking medicines, such as birth control pills and antithyroid medicines. Age. Older adults may have a higher ferritin value. Eating a diet high in red meats.

What To Think About

A ferritin test is often done with other tests to check the amount of iron in the blood, especially the iron and iron-binding capacity levels. For more information, see the medical test Iron. A bone marrow biopsy can check the amount of iron stored in the bone marrow. For more information, see the medical test Bone Marrow Aspiration and Biopsy. Because inflammation in the body can cause high ferritin levels, a test result that is slightly high does not always mean a buildup of iron (hemochromatosis) is present.

gene testing for iron overload, I dont remember the name for it. Anyway, dont worry about it, this doctor is absurd !

I have a high hemaglobin ( 15.8) , and my ferritin was bouncing from

82-288. so they did gene testing to check me for hemachromatosis

which is iron overload, and I have one of the genes for it, but not both,

so I do NOT have it.

Anyway, I hope this helps you......... ....

bottom line, this doc you saw is....." less than "perhaps you should

make a report so others dont get deceived by her:

http://www.doctorsc orecard.com/ doctors?sta= TX, you can change

it to your state and town.......

Please, rest at ease......keep me posted, I am very curious as to

the truth behind the mystery ! !

Love Dede

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Thats for all you help...I just sent you a personal email with some more info on it.....

How are you feeling today????

Much Love,

Beth

Iron problems

Beth ~

I think that ND you were seeing was rude and didnt

like to explain things cuz of her intelligence level.

There are many things about iron in the body..

There are many tests you can have that tell the tell

of iron in your body.

http://www.questdia gnostics. com/kbase/ topic/medtest/ hw41550/descrip. htm

Test Overview

An iron test checks the amount of iron in the blood to see how well iron is metabolized in the body. Iron (Fe) is a mineral needed for hemoglobin, the protein in red blood cells that carries oxygen. Iron is also needed for energy, good muscle and organ function.

About 70% of the body's iron is bound to hemoglobin in red blood cells. The rest is bound to other proteins (transferrin in blood or ferritin in bone marrow) or stored in other body tissues. When red blood cells die, their iron is released and carried by transferrin to the bone marrow. In the bone marrow, iron is stored and used as needed to make new red blood cells.

The source of all the body's iron is food, such as liver and other meat, eggs, fish, and leafy green vegetables. The body needs more iron at times of growth (such as during adolescence) , for pregnancy, during breast-feeding, or at times when there are low levels of iron in the body (such as after bleeding).

Healthy adult men get enough iron from the food they eat. Men have enough reserves of iron in their bodies to last for several years, even if they take in no new iron. Men rarely develop an iron deficiency because of their diets. Women, however, can lose large amounts of iron because of menstrual bleeding, during pregnancy, or while breast-feeding. Therefore, women are more likely than men to develop an iron deficiency and may need to take an iron supplement.. Iron deficiency in men and in women past menopause is often from abnormal bleeding, often in the gastrointestinal tract, such as from stomach ulcers or colon cancer.

The iron test checks the:

Amount of iron bound to transferrin in the blood (serum). Amount of iron needed to bind to all of the transferrin. This value is called the total iron-binding capacity (TIBC). Percentage of transferrin with iron bound to them. This value is called transferrin saturation.

A test for iron is done to:

Check for iron deficiency anemia. Check for a condition called hemochromatosis. Check nutritional status. Check to see if iron and nutritional treatment is working.

Results

An iron test checks the amount of iron in the blood to see how well iron is metabolized in the body.

Normal

Normal results may vary from lab to lab.

Serum iron

Men:

80–180 micrograms per deciliter (µg/dL) or 14–32 micromoles per liter (µmol/L) (SI units)

Women:

60–160 µg/dL or 11–29 µmol/L

Children:

50-120 µg/dL

Total iron-binding capacity (TIBC)

Men and women:

250–450 µg/dL or 45–82 µmol/L

Transferrin saturation

Men:

20%–50%

Women:

15%–50%

High and low values

The values for serum iron, total iron-binding capacity (TIBC), and transferrin saturation are used to see whether a low amount of iron in the body is from iron deficiency anemia or another condition. The values are also used to see whether a high amount of iron is due to hemochromatosis or another condition. Other conditions that affect iron, TIBC, and transferrin saturation levels include:

Hemolytic anemia. This causes a low amount of oxygen-carrying hemoglobin found in red blood cells. The iron levels are often normal.. Thalassemia. This is a blood disorder that runs in families (inherited). It changes how the body makes hemoglobin. The iron levels are often normal, but ferritin levels may be high if the person has had a lot of blood transfusions. Cirrhosis. This is a condition that occurs when inflammation and scarring damage the liver. Lead poisoning. This develops from months or years of exposure to small amounts of lead in the environment. Iron deficiency anemia. This occurs when low iron levels cause a low amount of oxygen-carrying hemoglobin in red blood cells. The iron levels are low, the transferrin saturation is high, and the ferritin level is low. Rheumatoid arthritis. This form of arthritis inflames the membranes or tissues lining the joints. Overuse of iron supplements. Bleeding. Kidney failure. Severe infection.

What To Think About

Taking iron supplements for tiredness can mask an iron problem. Talk to your doctor about taking iron supplements. Iron levels change during the day. Iron tests are best done in the morning, when iron levels are highest. The results of an iron test are also checked with results of a complete blood count (CBC), ferritin, and transferrin tests. The ferritin test is often better than an iron test to see whether iron deficiency is present. An iron test and ferritin test are often done at the same time. For more information, see the medical tests Complete Blood Count (CBC) and Ferritin. A test called the siderocyte stain test checks the number of red blood cells that have particles of iron not bound to hemoglobin (siderocytes) . Normally, very low numbers of siderocytes are present in blood. High levels of siderocytes in adults may mean a type of anemia, iron overload, lead poisoning, hemochromatosis, or a severe infection are present. When iron deficiency anemia is diagnosed, the source of the anemia must be found and treated. Iron deficiency can be caused by long-term (chronic) blood loss from heavy menstrual bleeding, pregnancy, not enough iron in the diet, or bleeding inside the intestinal tract (from ulcers, colon polyps, colon cancer, hemorrhoids, or other conditions). In rare cases, too much iron may be lost through the skin (because of a disease such as psoriasis) or in the urine. Iron deficiency anemia can be easily treated with iron supplements, but the key is to identify it and stop the iron loss. Hemochromatosis can be treated with medicines to help the body get rid of extra iron. A procedure called a phlebotomy can also be done to remove iron from the body.Ferritin, which shows your iron stores:

http://www.questdia gnostics. com/kbase/ topic/medtest/ hw6212/descrip. htm

Test Overview

A ferritin blood test checks the amount of ferritin in the blood. Ferritin is a protein in the body that binds to iron; most of the iron stored in the body is bound to ferritin. Ferritin is found in the liver , spleen , skeletal muscles, and bone marrow. Only a small amount of ferritin is found in the blood. The amount of ferritin in the blood shows how much iron is stored in your body.

A ferritin blood test is done to:

Find the cause of anemia, especially iron deficiency anemia. See whether inflammation is present. See whether too much iron (hemochromatosis) is present. Check to see whether iron treatment to raise or lower the iron level is working.

Iron Storage (Ferritin)

Results

A ferritin blood test checks the amount of ferritin in the blood. Ferritin is a protein in the body that binds to iron; most of the iron stored in the body is bound to ferritin. The amount of ferritin found in the blood is the same amount that is in the body.

Normal

Normal values may vary from lab to lab.

Ferritin

Men:

12–300 nanograms per milliliter (ng/mL) or 12–300 micrograms per liter (mcg/L)

Women:

10–150 ng/mL or 10-150 mcg/L

Children 6 months to 15 years:

7–142 ng/mL

Babies 2 to 5 months:

50–200 ng/mL

Babies 1 month:

200–600 ng/mL

Newborn babies:

25–200 ng/mL

High values

Very high ferritin levels (greater than 1,000 ng/mL) can mean a large buildup of iron in the body (hemochromatosis). One form of this condition is passed on in families (genetic hemochromatosis) . Some diseases, including alcoholism, thalassemia, and some types of anemia that cause red blood cells to be destroyed, can also cause hemochromatosis. Also, if you have many blood transfusions, this can sometimes cause the body to store too much iron (acquired hemochromatosis) . High ferritin levels may also be caused by liver disease (cirrhosis or hepatitis), Hodgkin's disease, leukemia, infection, inflammatory conditions (such as arthritis or lupus), or a diet that is too high in iron. Too much iron in body organs, such as the pancreas or heart, can affect how the organ works.

Low values

Low ferritin levels often mean an iron deficiency is present. This can be caused by long-term (chronic) blood loss from heavy menstrual bleeding, pregnancy, not enough iron in the diet, or bleeding inside the intestinal tract (from ulcers, colon polyps, colon cancer, hemorrhoids, or other conditions). In rare cases, too much iron may be lost through the skin (because of a disease such as psoriasis) or in the urine.

What Affects the Test

Reasons you may not be able to have the test or why the results may not be helpful include:

Having a blood transfusion in the past 4 months. Being a female athlete doing sports that change the menstrual cycle. Having conditions that cause inflammation in the body, such as from illness or from a surgery. Having a radioactive scan in the past 3 days. Taking medicines, such as birth control pills and antithyroid medicines. Age. Older adults may have a higher ferritin value. Eating a diet high in red meats.

What To Think About

A ferritin test is often done with other tests to check the amount of iron in the blood, especially the iron and iron-binding capacity levels. For more information, see the medical test Iron. A bone marrow biopsy can check the amount of iron stored in the bone marrow. For more information, see the medical test Bone Marrow Aspiration and Biopsy. Because inflammation in the body can cause high ferritin levels, a test result that is slightly high does not always mean a buildup of iron (hemochromatosis) is present.

gene testing for iron overload, I dont remember the name for it. Anyway, dont worry about it, this doctor is absurd !

I have a high hemaglobin ( 15.8) , and my ferritin was bouncing from

82-288. so they did gene testing to check me for hemachromatosis

which is iron overload, and I have one of the genes for it, but not both,

so I do NOT have it.

Anyway, I hope this helps you......... ....

bottom line, this doc you saw is....." less than "perhaps you should

make a report so others dont get deceived by her:

http://www.doctorsc orecard.com/ doctors?sta= TX, you can change

it to your state and town.......

Please, rest at ease......keep me posted, I am very curious as to

the truth behind the mystery ! !

Love Dede

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Patty - what my ND is going from is also from the test results of my hair analysis I had sent to you. It says my iron was over 200% for my body and my fe/cu was something like 425%. It is from the chart I had sent. Does any of it stand out to you that I may have problems??? Did you get the results ok before??? I remember you saying you had a similar test done and thought you might be able to understand what the report was saying. Any luck??

I have no idea what she meant by her comments about my iron. I guess I took it that I had elevated levels because my body did not know how to use it.....but once again she does not explain things very well so I am jsut guessing here.

Let me know what you think from the chart if you still have it....if not, I can send it again if needed!!!!!

Much Love,

Beth

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Patty - what my ND is going from is also from the test results of my hair analysis I had sent to you. It says my iron was over 200% for my body and my fe/cu was something like 425%. It is from the chart I had sent. Does any of it stand out to you that I may have problems??? Did you get the results ok before??? I remember you saying you had a similar test done and thought you might be able to understand what the report was saying. Any luck??

I have no idea what she meant by her comments about my iron. I guess I took it that I had elevated levels because my body did not know how to use it.....but once again she does not explain things very well so I am jsut guessing here.

Let me know what you think from the chart if you still have it....if not, I can send it again if needed!!!!!

Much Love,

Beth

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Beth,Since your readings are so out of normal range, you may want to ask your medical doctor to run these tests again.It's possible the test wasn't processed correctly.Hugs,Rogene

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Thanks Rogene..I do plan to have a complete blood test done to check numerous things and will make sure my iron is included in this. I would think it would have been from taking the iron while pregnant and that my body ould not handle to load of iron I was taking it would have shown up in blood test by now.

When I went through processing for my hubby's job and to move overseas, they ran all kinds of blood test. I do not have the results but I know they tested for just about everything and I was normal on everything. That was in May 2007. 2 months after I got my implants. I am wondering if this is something that has just happened......I would have thought it would have shown up previously......as I have had about 3 blood test ran since implants.....

Much Love,

Beth

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Beth,Since your readings are so out of normal range, you may want to ask your medical doctor to run these tests again.It's possible the test wasn't processed correctly.Hugs,Rogene

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