Re: Bindi and Dr. Melmed and Test Results

[Guest guest]

Jill,

Yes, Melmed removed my implants. He removed all the scar tissue. I had a scar tissue analysis by a lab that says the same(I am assuming he did the same for you). It sounds like he did the best he could getting your scar tissue out, and I wouldn't worry about it until you see what the report says. Melmed differs from some in his theory as to what causes implant illness, and his views make some people mad. I happen to agree with him. He claims that the symptoms most implanted women suffer from are the result of the body going into a severe reactive state, perceiving the implants as foreign bodies (which they are), which in turn causes the downward spiral that we all experience.

I'll admit my symptoms are the same as classic fibromyalgia symptoms, but the fact that they have been improving over time makes them different than what most fibro sufferers experience. Jill, your fibro specialist probably had no luck treating you because you still had your implants until recently, and believe me, nothing is really going to help someone who is sick with implants if they still got 'em. Hooray for you that now you don't!

It's good that you got your hormones checked. I'll bet things will change for the better now that those bad puppies are out, but you can do much to help it along. There is a good book called Feeling Fat, Fuzzy or Frazzled, by Dr. Shames, that a lot of women in this group have read. It is really helpful with regards to hormone-related problems. I would definitely give it a good read. Also look in the archives on the group site for more info-- Patty has put some very useful stuff up about hormones. Your low cortisol levels are a huge part of what is going on for you. None of your body processes (including your thyroid) can work properly when your adrenals are exhausted like they are. I have low cortisol as well, and I have been taking adrenal extract as well as adaptogenic herbs that very useful for rebuilding the adrenals. Many women find that once they address the adrenals, their thyroid levels and other hormone levels improve. Did you do the 4x/day saliva cortisol panel? It will show not only whether you have low cortisol, but how your levels fluctuate during the course of the day, which really helps determine the condition of the adrenals. Mine were very low in the morning, when they should be at their highest--this points toward severe adrenal exhaustion. I am planning to have them retested soon. I am sure I have made progress, and it will be interesting to see how it plays out in my cortisol levels.

I would say that the biggest daily supplement you can take at this point is a large dose of patience, combined with an equal dose of faith that you WILL get well. It is going to take time, Jill. No matter what you do to help yourself, it will still take time. Maybe putting up a little reminder will help, something like EVERY DAY I AM GETTING BETTER. As I said before, exactly two years ago I was slamming this group with emails almost daily, desperate for reassurance. I felt so bad that even though my implants were out I just didn't believe I would ever feel better. I was in constant pain, exhaustion, brain fog, irritable, dizzy, etc etc. To give you a small glimpse into how far I've come, I was out until 2 am a few nights ago at a rock concert given by my daughter's band. I drank two beers and even ate a donut! The next day I was tired but functional. A year ago I would have been a beached whale after such an evening, two years ago I would have been close to dead. I'm certainly not planning to do this kind of thing often, but the fact that I can get away with it once in while is a sign that my body has come a long way. Healing is a process. It doesn't happen over night. The good news is we get a second chance to have a healthy life!

Feel free to email me privately if you like.

Bindi

[Guest guest]

Bindi,

I can't tell you how much your posts have uplifted me tonight. I'm

10 months post explant and feeling discouraged that my eyes and brain

fog are still bothering me. My energy has improved slightly so I

know I'm making progress but it's so slow!! Your messages are

encouraging...thanks!

I looked through the archives at some of your old posts but there

were 563 of them so I gave up after a while. I was wondering if you

could be more specific with your clean diet...did you eliminate fruit

as well? The only cheats I have are brown rice cakes, cashew butter

and commercial keifer but I have really strong cravings for them and

am wondering if I need to cut back. Did you do those or were you

super strict? Also, can you give some examples of meals you fixed

while recovering. I think that's what I and many of the women on the

forum struggle with. I'm constantly opening the fridge and feeling

hungry and deprived. I juice a lot and feel good about that although

I've read I need to be careful w/ the fruit.

Also, I know you had some visual disturbances but did you ever

experience one of your eyes feeling weaker than the other? I don't

know if it's from mercury or the implants but it's driving me nuts!

So glad you've come so far and just know you'll heal 100%. Love, PH

>

> Jill,

> Yes, Melmed removed my implants. He removed all the scar tissue. I

had a scar tissue analysis by a lab that says the same(I am assuming

he did the same for you). It sounds like he did the best he could

getting your scar tissue out, and I wouldn't worry about it until you

see what the report says. Melmed differs from some in his theory as

to what causes implant illness, and his views make some people mad. I

happen to agree with him. He claims that the symptoms most implanted

women suffer from are the result of the body going into a severe

reactive state, perceiving the implants as foreign bodies (which they

are), which in turn causes the downward spiral that we all

experience.

>

> I'll admit my symptoms are the same as classic fibromyalgia

symptoms, but the fact that they have been improving over time makes

them different than what most fibro sufferers experience. Jill, your

fibro specialist probably had no luck treating you because you still

had your implants until recently, and believe me, nothing is really

going to help someone who is sick with implants if they still

got 'em. Hooray for you that now you don't!

>

> It's good that you got your hormones checked. I'll bet things will

change for the better now that those bad puppies are out, but you can

do much to help it along. There is a good book called Feeling Fat,

Fuzzy or Frazzled, by Dr. Shames, that a lot of women in

this group have read. It is really helpful with regards to hormone-

related problems. I would definitely give it a good read. Also look

in the archives on the group site for more info-- Patty has put some

very useful stuff up about hormones. Your low cortisol levels are a

huge part of what is going on for you. None of your body processes

(including your thyroid) can work properly when your adrenals are

exhausted like they are. I have low cortisol as well, and I have been

taking adrenal extract as well as adaptogenic herbs that very useful

for rebuilding the adrenals. Many women find that once they address

the adrenals, their thyroid levels and other hormone levels improve.

Did you do the 4x/day saliva cortisol panel? It will show not only

whether you have low cortisol, but how your levels fluctuate during

the course of the day, which really helps determine the condition of

the adrenals. Mine were very low in the morning, when they should be

at their highest--this points toward severe adrenal exhaustion. I am

planning to have them retested soon. I am sure I have made progress,

and it will be interesting to see how it plays out in my cortisol

levels.

>

> I would say that the biggest daily supplement you can take at this

point is a large dose of patience, combined with an equal dose of

faith that you WILL get well. It is going to take time, Jill. No

matter what you do to help yourself, it will still take time. Maybe

putting up a little reminder will help, something like EVERY DAY I AM

GETTING BETTER. As I said before, exactly two years ago I was

slamming this group with emails almost daily, desperate for

reassurance. I felt so bad that even though my implants were out I

just didn't believe I would ever feel better. I was in constant pain,

exhaustion, brain fog, irritable, dizzy, etc etc. To give you a small

glimpse into how far I've come, I was out until 2 am a few nights ago

at a rock concert given by my daughter's band. I drank two beers and

even ate a donut! The next day I was tired but functional. A year ago

I would have been a beached whale after such an evening, two years

ago I would have been close to dead. I'm certainly not planning to do

this kind of thing often, but the fact that I can get away with it

once in while is a sign that my body has come a long way. Healing is

a process. It doesn't happen over night. The good news is we get a

second chance to have a healthy life!

>

> Feel free to email me privately if you like.

>

> Bindi

>

[Guest guest]

Jill,My feeling is that Dr. Melmed did everything he could to remove all the capsule possible. He is an excellent surgeon and he really cares about his patients. When I read the description of your symptoms, I see a line of dominoes. When one domino goes down, the rest follow. While we don't know what lies behind every one of these tests, we do know that, buy addressing fungal issues and embarking on a very healthy diet, (if you're like the rest of our ladies) many of these tests will return to normal. Your implants are already out, so you've already jumped the most important hurdle. That's not to say you won't find there are some other problems . . . like thyroid or adrenal . . . But you

need to start somewhere - And, regardless of what is going on with you, getting fungal issues under control and getting real nutrition to your body so it can begin repairing self will not hurt, and may make all the difference.The Maker's Diet is a very important book in that it explains why establishing a healthy digestive system is so important. Dr. Rubin has an online program where you can get recipes and network. Some of our ladies have tried it. They love the foods. The challenge is to take control of ones diet when one doesn't feel like cooking. However, we've seen ladies do this time and again. I can't recall a single woman who said she could follow a poor diet and get better. Physicians receive very, very little training in diet. . . Is it any wonder they rely so heavily on drugs? Some things I'd recommend: An antifungal like Caprylic Acid, Olive Leaf Extract, Oil of Oregano, or Garden of Life Fungal Defense. There

are some prescription drugs that are effective too . . Diflucan is one. "The Yeast Connection" is an old, but still valid book, describing the problems that come with an overgrowth of fungal organism.Once fungal issues have been suppressed, it's time to start probiotics. . . There are a host of them . . I like Garden of Life Primal Defense - but there are others. It will be necessary to take probiotics for a long time. How long, depends on how closely you follow an antifungal diet that included probiotic foods like yogurt, organic sauerkraut and Kefir. . . and stay away from things that feed fungus - like sugar and refined grains. There is a spit test . . . Three Lac spit test . . . you can find with an online search. . . Great thing is that it's free so you can do it as often as you want. It's not scientific, but I've found it tracks very well with how closely I'm following a healthy program.The Maker's Diet recommends eating

organic whole foods . . . no processed food, no microwaving, no deep frying, no sugar, refined grains, alcohol, pork, etc. . . It's really not as bad as it sounds when you start concentrating on what you CAN eat, versus what you can't eat. Gluten sensitivity is a huge issue. So, if you can go gluten free, you may see an abrupt improvement. . . . Diet changes are hard. If you'll gradually change over to healthy eating by finding foods you really enjoy, you'll gradually crowd the bad stuff out of your diet. If you'll plan to make your diet changes permanent, you'll be way ahead.There are some detox programs that can be very effective . . . You'll have to decide what you're comfortable with and what you can afford. . . A partial list: Coffee enemas, colonics, liver/gall bladder flushes, ionic foot baths, FAR infrared sauna, Epsom Salt baths, Clay baths, as well as some supplements that help clear toxins . . Milk Thistle comes to mind right

now. . . Just don't try to do them all at once!There are some medicinal foods . . . fresh, raw, crushed garlic is one of the best. It's a natural probiotic, antibiotic and antifungal! . . . Cilantro is one of the best herbs for detoxing heavy metals. We have a lot of information in the archives, and between all of us here, we've tried all these programs. Please look them over. Ask about those that you feel good about. We'll try to help you get on your way.One more very important thing is attitude! . . . It takes some mental gymnastics to change ones mindset from seeing ourselves as chronically ill to seeing ourselves as healing. Meditation and self-programming can help. Prayer definitely helps. None of this is easy! . . . It takes discipline, commitment and patience - all in abundance. Once you start seeing progress, motivating yourself will become easier. . . For that reason, keep a journal of everything you're doing and

taking . . . and how you feel. This can help you isolate things that don't agree with you, remember what works, and when those inevitable bad days occur, will help you look back and see how far you've come.Hugs and prayer,Rogene

[Guest guest]

PH,

Did I really post 563 times? Yikes.

My diet has been somewhat looser than those of many of the women in this group. I was never, nor am I now strict about my diet in the sense that I do eat sugar and wheat occasionally, though I almost never eat processed or fast foods (I think they taste terrible). I eat LOTS of fruits and vegetables, which I have always loved. I also eat organic poultry, organic diary, free range eggs from my chickens, wild salmon, olive and coconut oils, grains, seeds and beans. Occasionally I'll eat wild boar or venison. A typical meal for me would be a stir fry of chicken or salmon with shitakes, green beans, onions, red pepper over brown rice pasta or steamed red or brown rice. Or I might throw a bunch of root vegetables, onions, chopped herbs, garlic and olive oil in a baking dish and roast them in the oven, along with a chicken, and make a salad to go with it. I make lots of soups. I eat a LOT of garlic, always have (I'm Italian) and lots of cilantro. I don't drink alcohol very often because I don't tolerate it well anymore.

I take 5 grams fish oil, an adrenal extract, alpha lipoic acid, l-arginine and l-ornithine, green tea extract, reveratrol extract, a probiotic, and CoQ10. I don't take a multi-vitamin, as there is a lot of evidence that they do more harm than good, though I do take a cal/mag/D complex. I also take rhodiola rosea, ashwaganda, shitake, reishi, maitake (all good for adrenals, and for recovery from all kinds of illness-- these I buy in powder form from Mountain Rose Herbs and cap them myself. I drink a lot of tulsi (holy basil) tea from herbs that I grow myself-- excellent for adrenals.

I don't subscribe to the fungal/yeast theory, nor have I gotten on the Maker's Diet/Garden of Life bandwagon. A lot of what 's book says seems to me to be common sense(eat a diet of pure organic food), and the rest of it is to me a little wacky. I am also dismayed at some of the ethical choices he's made with regards to marketing himself and his products. That said, if he helps those who are struggling with trying to eat healthy, he's doing a good thing.

I have never done a foot bath, a coffee enema, a liver flush. I would like to get a FAR Infrared sauna some day because there is some solid research backing up its benefits.

PH, finding the right balance with your healing diet is a personal thing. I suppose if you try cutting out some foods and find that you feel better, than that should tell you something, but at the same time, feeling guilty about eating a few cookies as part of a diet rich in healthy foods seems extreme to me. I can't tell you how many a night I'd felt crappy and baked up a batch of homemade cookies, and yep, I sure did feel better after. Brown rice cakes just wouldn't cut it in this kid of situation.

For years I was a professional chef, and cooking and eating are a big part of my life. I strive to make and eat food that is beautiful, delicious and healthy. I truly believe that after a long period of suffering, part of our healing journey is to retrain our brains to make those feel-good chemicals again.

My eyes have improved greatly, but I still need to wear reading glasses, which started when I first became sick three years ago. I suppose it could be from aging (what, who me?).

Yeah, the one-year post-explant mark can be hard. You have gotten over the novelty of no longer feeling as if you were going to die, but you still don't feel normal. Just remind yourself that day by day your are truly getting better. You'll start having more good days than bad. You'll forget what it feels like to feel really bad. You'll have a bad day and get really annoyed at the nuisance, because they will have become the exception rather than the rule.

Yours,

Bindi

[Guest guest]

PH,

Did I really post 563 times? Yikes.

My diet has been somewhat looser than those of many of the women in this group. I was never, nor am I now strict about my diet in the sense that I do eat sugar and wheat occasionally, though I almost never eat processed or fast foods (I think they taste terrible). I eat LOTS of fruits and vegetables, which I have always loved. I also eat organic poultry, organic diary, free range eggs from my chickens, wild salmon, olive and coconut oils, grains, seeds and beans. Occasionally I'll eat wild boar or venison. A typical meal for me would be a stir fry of chicken or salmon with shitakes, green beans, onions, red pepper over brown rice pasta or steamed red or brown rice. Or I might throw a bunch of root vegetables, onions, chopped herbs, garlic and olive oil in a baking dish and roast them in the oven, along with a chicken, and make a salad to go with it. I make lots of soups. I eat a LOT of garlic, always have (I'm Italian) and lots of cilantro. I don't drink alcohol very often because I don't tolerate it well anymore.

I take 5 grams fish oil, an adrenal extract, alpha lipoic acid, l-arginine and l-ornithine, green tea extract, reveratrol extract, a probiotic, and CoQ10. I don't take a multi-vitamin, as there is a lot of evidence that they do more harm than good, though I do take a cal/mag/D complex. I also take rhodiola rosea, ashwaganda, shitake, reishi, maitake (all good for adrenals, and for recovery from all kinds of illness-- these I buy in powder form from Mountain Rose Herbs and cap them myself. I drink a lot of tulsi (holy basil) tea from herbs that I grow myself-- excellent for adrenals.

I don't subscribe to the fungal/yeast theory, nor have I gotten on the Maker's Diet/Garden of Life bandwagon. A lot of what 's book says seems to me to be common sense(eat a diet of pure organic food), and the rest of it is to me a little wacky. I am also dismayed at some of the ethical choices he's made with regards to marketing himself and his products. That said, if he helps those who are struggling with trying to eat healthy, he's doing a good thing.

I have never done a foot bath, a coffee enema, a liver flush. I would like to get a FAR Infrared sauna some day because there is some solid research backing up its benefits.

PH, finding the right balance with your healing diet is a personal thing. I suppose if you try cutting out some foods and find that you feel better, than that should tell you something, but at the same time, feeling guilty about eating a few cookies as part of a diet rich in healthy foods seems extreme to me. I can't tell you how many a night I'd felt crappy and baked up a batch of homemade cookies, and yep, I sure did feel better after. Brown rice cakes just wouldn't cut it in this kid of situation.

For years I was a professional chef, and cooking and eating are a big part of my life. I strive to make and eat food that is beautiful, delicious and healthy. I truly believe that after a long period of suffering, part of our healing journey is to retrain our brains to make those feel-good chemicals again.

My eyes have improved greatly, but I still need to wear reading glasses, which started when I first became sick three years ago. I suppose it could be from aging (what, who me?).

Yeah, the one-year post-explant mark can be hard. You have gotten over the novelty of no longer feeling as if you were going to die, but you still don't feel normal. Just remind yourself that day by day your are truly getting better. You'll start having more good days than bad. You'll forget what it feels like to feel really bad. You'll have a bad day and get really annoyed at the nuisance, because they will have become the exception rather than the rule.

Yours,

Bindi

[Guest guest]

LOL Bindi,You are following a terrific program . . . You're right . . . most of what The Maker's Diet recommends is common sense . . . If everyone could take enough from it to follow the kind of diet you do, they'd do fine too. What I take from it is that we must eat healthy if we are to be healthy. A sweet treat now and then isn't going to break the bank! . . . And stressing over diet is counter productive. . . It's wonderful to see you doing so well!Hugs,Rogene----- Original

[Guest guest]

LOL Bindi,You are following a terrific program . . . You're right . . . most of what The Maker's Diet recommends is common sense . . . If everyone could take enough from it to follow the kind of diet you do, they'd do fine too. What I take from it is that we must eat healthy if we are to be healthy. A sweet treat now and then isn't going to break the bank! . . . And stressing over diet is counter productive. . . It's wonderful to see you doing so well!Hugs,Rogene----- Original

[Guest guest]

Jill,I don't know how much tissue you have . . . but if you'll wear a snug but comfortable sports bra 24/7 until healing is well underway, any internal scar tissue will serve to provide support. It can take as long as a year before what you see is what you get. . . The scars will fade away to almost nothing.It's a shame they don't warn women getting implants that THIS could be their outcome, isn't it?BTW, there is a portion of Silva Mind Control you can try for free online. . . That's just a teaser though! There's much more to it than what you can get online.Hugs and prayers,Rogene

[Guest guest]

Jill,I don't know how much tissue you have . . . but if you'll wear a snug but comfortable sports bra 24/7 until healing is well underway, any internal scar tissue will serve to provide support. It can take as long as a year before what you see is what you get. . . The scars will fade away to almost nothing.It's a shame they don't warn women getting implants that THIS could be their outcome, isn't it?BTW, there is a portion of Silva Mind Control you can try for free online. . . That's just a teaser though! There's much more to it than what you can get online.Hugs and prayers,Rogene

[Guest guest]

Jill,As I see it, the first two weeks are to apply pressure to keep fluid from accumulating . . . The next (approximate) four weeks are for shaping. The bummer is that you'll look flat for a little longer before you can get into some cute bras - but in the long run, it will be worth it.Silva really is great! . . . I didn't know they still have classes until I detected something that Dede said that I thought came from Silva . . Think about this . . . What is the difference between you and anybody else out there? . .. The ones who succeed, the ones who fail - and those who live their life in misery? . . . Given that they have normal intellect, the main difference is how

they think! . . . How one thinks makes ALL the difference. Recognizing that and learning how to reprogram your mind so you can have the kind of life you want is, in large part, what Silva MC is all about.If you've been bogged down by negative thinking, you'll really, really get a lot out of this course.Hugs,Rogene

[Guest guest]

Jill,As I see it, the first two weeks are to apply pressure to keep fluid from accumulating . . . The next (approximate) four weeks are for shaping. The bummer is that you'll look flat for a little longer before you can get into some cute bras - but in the long run, it will be worth it.Silva really is great! . . . I didn't know they still have classes until I detected something that Dede said that I thought came from Silva . . Think about this . . . What is the difference between you and anybody else out there? . .. The ones who succeed, the ones who fail - and those who live their life in misery? . . . Given that they have normal intellect, the main difference is how

they think! . . . How one thinks makes ALL the difference. Recognizing that and learning how to reprogram your mind so you can have the kind of life you want is, in large part, what Silva MC is all about.If you've been bogged down by negative thinking, you'll really, really get a lot out of this course.Hugs,Rogene

[Guest guest]

,

I buy my powdered herbs from www.mountainroseherbs.com. They strive to sell organic herbs and their prices are quite reasonable. There are other sites that sell cheap glycerin capsules and capsule machines. I like to cap mine at night, while listening to archives of This American Life on http://thisamericanlife.org/Radio_Archive.aspx.

I take Iso-Cort, an adrenal extract by Bezwecken. You can find it easily online. It is kind of pricey, but one bottle last a long time. You don't need a prescription for it, but you do need to be very careful to start out slow. It makes you feel strange at first. Dr. Shames' book has a chapter on adrenals that discusses the various treatment options. You can also use licorice extract, but I wouldn't use adrenal extract and licorice together-- too potent.

I've been wanting to buy cordyceps powder(an excellent adrenal medicinal) from Aloha Medicinals for an long time, but their minimum order is two kilos which is $80. If anyone out there wants to do a split on a boatload of cordyceps, let me know! There are other places to get it, but it comes from China, and there's been evidence that Chinese cordyceps has high lead levels. Aloha Medicinals grows their own cordyceps, and has a good reputation.

Good luck with your adrenal recovery!

Bindi

[Guest guest]

,

I buy my powdered herbs from www.mountainroseherbs.com. They strive to sell organic herbs and their prices are quite reasonable. There are other sites that sell cheap glycerin capsules and capsule machines. I like to cap mine at night, while listening to archives of This American Life on http://thisamericanlife.org/Radio_Archive.aspx.

I take Iso-Cort, an adrenal extract by Bezwecken. You can find it easily online. It is kind of pricey, but one bottle last a long time. You don't need a prescription for it, but you do need to be very careful to start out slow. It makes you feel strange at first. Dr. Shames' book has a chapter on adrenals that discusses the various treatment options. You can also use licorice extract, but I wouldn't use adrenal extract and licorice together-- too potent.

I've been wanting to buy cordyceps powder(an excellent adrenal medicinal) from Aloha Medicinals for an long time, but their minimum order is two kilos which is $80. If anyone out there wants to do a split on a boatload of cordyceps, let me know! There are other places to get it, but it comes from China, and there's been evidence that Chinese cordyceps has high lead levels. Aloha Medicinals grows their own cordyceps, and has a good reputation.

Good luck with your adrenal recovery!

Bindi

[Guest guest]

Jill,

After my surgery with Melmed, I looked like the Bride of enstein. I had a lift, so I had these hideous puckered stitches, and was lopsided and deflated. It was depressing.

People kept reassuring me that in time they would improve, and they were 100% correct. Today, two years after surgery, my girls look fabulous, if I say so myself. I'd say that they improved the most in the first year, but they are still improving now. They are fluffed and perky, the incisions are all smoothed out, and I've even recovered most of the feeling that was lost from having implants--yipee!. Yeah, I have scars, but they are not very noticable. I look better than I did before I went and got implants. I even went up a cup size for some reason. My sweetheart agrees, and wonders why I didn't just get a lift in the first place. Sigh.

It takes months to heal and get your final result, but you will just keep getting better over time. Though Melmed didn't insist on it, I wore a sportsbra for a month as recommended by the women in this group, just to be safe. Boy was I glad to throw that thing out. Then I wore lightweight cotton shelf-bra camisoles to bed for the support, which I do still wear, though I don't feel the need for them anymore. In the beginning your breasts feel vulnerable.

Once your poor girls are well on their way to healing, you are going to LOVE them, Jill! They will be soft, natural and all you.

Bindi

[Guest guest]

Jill,

After my surgery with Melmed, I looked like the Bride of enstein. I had a lift, so I had these hideous puckered stitches, and was lopsided and deflated. It was depressing.

People kept reassuring me that in time they would improve, and they were 100% correct. Today, two years after surgery, my girls look fabulous, if I say so myself. I'd say that they improved the most in the first year, but they are still improving now. They are fluffed and perky, the incisions are all smoothed out, and I've even recovered most of the feeling that was lost from having implants--yipee!. Yeah, I have scars, but they are not very noticable. I look better than I did before I went and got implants. I even went up a cup size for some reason. My sweetheart agrees, and wonders why I didn't just get a lift in the first place. Sigh.

It takes months to heal and get your final result, but you will just keep getting better over time. Though Melmed didn't insist on it, I wore a sportsbra for a month as recommended by the women in this group, just to be safe. Boy was I glad to throw that thing out. Then I wore lightweight cotton shelf-bra camisoles to bed for the support, which I do still wear, though I don't feel the need for them anymore. In the beginning your breasts feel vulnerable.

Once your poor girls are well on their way to healing, you are going to LOVE them, Jill! They will be soft, natural and all you.

Bindi