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Hi Nan,

Yes it sounds similar to what I have.

I understand the lack of oxygen I have

been saying this for ages to my Dr It feels like oxygen doesn’t get to my

brain!!

When I get attacks like this I do not get

pain but I shake like mad, have to lie down cannot sit up as everything kind of

goes backwards and I fall luckily it doesn’t last for more than a  few

hours, then its gone and I feel almost normal it kind of releases something??

My neck and shoulders are also so very

painful it’s unbelievable, I see an osteopath every Friday for massage or

he cracks my neck and back.

The naturopath I have seen told me its

chronic fatigue but like you I doubt it as its too extreme, I tried oxygen

therapy a few times you have a canular up your nose and breathe in oxygen in

its triple or double state I cannot remember, it did work and the dizziness and

neck pain went and I could see things really clearly…my vision is awful.

The next few times I went it was not so effective because I was told I needed

longer on the machine than I was having, but I could not afford it and

certainly cannot afford to buy one, they are about £4000.00.

The other thing is I found the journey

very difficult when you are dizzy 100% of the time going out is NO fun.

I can relate to the diet I am back on it

very strict and the weight is falling off me AGAIN, my leg muscles kill me even

waking me in the night.

I don’t think its anxiety it happens

with no rhyme or reason, the heart goes mental for a few mins then it’s

almost like it needed it to get it back to normal?

Does your brain feel like it

moves/wobbles/bangs/shakes at times inside your head? mine does…The reason

I no longer tell my Dr anything is its so hard to explain.

The weird thing is I CAN HAVE A FEW DAYS

WHERE I feel almost normal and think it’s gone only for it to return.

I wonder if you could try the oxygen

therapy, I know Rogene said they have a similar thing at her Drs surgery, it

may well help.

How is your vision?

I find it difficult to prepare meals too

like I said the dizziness totally dominates my life I rarely do anything

anymore.

I should have had a mammogram but cannot

face being out for long so have cancelled it three times, I should be going

back tomorrow but I know I will cancel again.

I have said this many times on here but I

feel like everything is coming from my head and not in a mental way but is REAL.

I WISH I COULD TAKE THIS HEAD OFF AND PUT another one on, can you understand

that?

I THINK WE SOUND PRETTY SIMILAR, maybe we

can try things together???

I find it really difficult to take in information,

if I have to read something that’s long it kind of over powers me and I

cannot face it, I need things explained in simple terms that I can in.

Lets try to get this worked out between

us, I am tired of living a half life…existing really.

Hang in there Nan.

Love Sue

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of nnnttwilliams

Sent: 08 January 2008 00:12

Subject: About the

attacks

Sue, I wish I could really describe them. They started

out like

complete fatigue and I would pass out for days. That is gone. Now

I get where I almost feel like there is no oxygen in my head like I

am being strangled, I start to feel a lot of pain, any movement or

noise is painful, and I just have to go to bed and wait it out for

days until it passes. I don't sleep, it is just like lying there

feeling like death. Then I can barely walk for weeks, I can't speak

right, it is so scary. Then I start to recover and after a few

months I notice I can go out and walk around at a normal level. I

can still barely hold my head up for long. I have a ton of " tender "

spots I have found on my neck and shoulders, but are more like

severely painful spots! I do not stay in bed much anymore, I have

been able to get up. But I am very careful about my activity.

Seems sort of extreme for fibromyalgia. Does that sound at all

familiar? I am so frustrated by not knowing what it is. And the

doctors have all said they have never heard anything like it. My

MRI is tomorrow, it was sch for today and they messed up. The neuro

said it sounds like MS attacks, but even he said he is not sure.

And I am really not describing what I have read about MS. I also

have an appt with the environmental medicine center next week which

is very pricey, but they say they treat women with implant illness,

so I will let you all know what they say. My husband is driving me

crazy trying to get me to go to the mayo clinic to try to get

someone to figure it out. Several doctors said fibro, several said

it is not. I totally went off the diet and back on sugar so I could

gain some weight. I feel like crap, but don't even have the energy

to go out and get fresh food. And I did finally gain some weight

back. I forgot the rashes! I have had outbreak after outbreak, all

over my neck and jawline, the neuro said he has no idea what it is.

Another trip to another doctor is just too much. I am going to PT

twice a week, and all the other stuff, it is just ridiculous. On the

better side, I have been able to walk a lot more, stretch a bit,

have more mental clarity, and the best is not having to stay in bed

for days. I had a slight attack a few days ago but caught it in

time so I was able to minimize it. ANY body have any attacks like

this? And Sue, yes mine at one point were like panic attacks with

bad heart beating and such, but most of the doctors said it is not

anxiety or panic (and I just had very bad anxiety at my last MRI and

it is nothing like what these attacks are so I am pretty confident

it is not that). Sorry so long! Love Nan

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Hi Nan,

Yes it sounds similar to what I have.

I understand the lack of oxygen I have

been saying this for ages to my Dr It feels like oxygen doesn’t get to my

brain!!

When I get attacks like this I do not get

pain but I shake like mad, have to lie down cannot sit up as everything kind of

goes backwards and I fall luckily it doesn’t last for more than a  few

hours, then its gone and I feel almost normal it kind of releases something??

My neck and shoulders are also so very

painful it’s unbelievable, I see an osteopath every Friday for massage or

he cracks my neck and back.

The naturopath I have seen told me its

chronic fatigue but like you I doubt it as its too extreme, I tried oxygen

therapy a few times you have a canular up your nose and breathe in oxygen in

its triple or double state I cannot remember, it did work and the dizziness and

neck pain went and I could see things really clearly…my vision is awful.

The next few times I went it was not so effective because I was told I needed

longer on the machine than I was having, but I could not afford it and

certainly cannot afford to buy one, they are about £4000.00.

The other thing is I found the journey

very difficult when you are dizzy 100% of the time going out is NO fun.

I can relate to the diet I am back on it

very strict and the weight is falling off me AGAIN, my leg muscles kill me even

waking me in the night.

I don’t think its anxiety it happens

with no rhyme or reason, the heart goes mental for a few mins then it’s

almost like it needed it to get it back to normal?

Does your brain feel like it

moves/wobbles/bangs/shakes at times inside your head? mine does…The reason

I no longer tell my Dr anything is its so hard to explain.

The weird thing is I CAN HAVE A FEW DAYS

WHERE I feel almost normal and think it’s gone only for it to return.

I wonder if you could try the oxygen

therapy, I know Rogene said they have a similar thing at her Drs surgery, it

may well help.

How is your vision?

I find it difficult to prepare meals too

like I said the dizziness totally dominates my life I rarely do anything

anymore.

I should have had a mammogram but cannot

face being out for long so have cancelled it three times, I should be going

back tomorrow but I know I will cancel again.

I have said this many times on here but I

feel like everything is coming from my head and not in a mental way but is REAL.

I WISH I COULD TAKE THIS HEAD OFF AND PUT another one on, can you understand

that?

I THINK WE SOUND PRETTY SIMILAR, maybe we

can try things together???

I find it really difficult to take in information,

if I have to read something that’s long it kind of over powers me and I

cannot face it, I need things explained in simple terms that I can in.

Lets try to get this worked out between

us, I am tired of living a half life…existing really.

Hang in there Nan.

Love Sue

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of nnnttwilliams

Sent: 08 January 2008 00:12

Subject: About the

attacks

Sue, I wish I could really describe them. They started

out like

complete fatigue and I would pass out for days. That is gone. Now

I get where I almost feel like there is no oxygen in my head like I

am being strangled, I start to feel a lot of pain, any movement or

noise is painful, and I just have to go to bed and wait it out for

days until it passes. I don't sleep, it is just like lying there

feeling like death. Then I can barely walk for weeks, I can't speak

right, it is so scary. Then I start to recover and after a few

months I notice I can go out and walk around at a normal level. I

can still barely hold my head up for long. I have a ton of " tender "

spots I have found on my neck and shoulders, but are more like

severely painful spots! I do not stay in bed much anymore, I have

been able to get up. But I am very careful about my activity.

Seems sort of extreme for fibromyalgia. Does that sound at all

familiar? I am so frustrated by not knowing what it is. And the

doctors have all said they have never heard anything like it. My

MRI is tomorrow, it was sch for today and they messed up. The neuro

said it sounds like MS attacks, but even he said he is not sure.

And I am really not describing what I have read about MS. I also

have an appt with the environmental medicine center next week which

is very pricey, but they say they treat women with implant illness,

so I will let you all know what they say. My husband is driving me

crazy trying to get me to go to the mayo clinic to try to get

someone to figure it out. Several doctors said fibro, several said

it is not. I totally went off the diet and back on sugar so I could

gain some weight. I feel like crap, but don't even have the energy

to go out and get fresh food. And I did finally gain some weight

back. I forgot the rashes! I have had outbreak after outbreak, all

over my neck and jawline, the neuro said he has no idea what it is.

Another trip to another doctor is just too much. I am going to PT

twice a week, and all the other stuff, it is just ridiculous. On the

better side, I have been able to walk a lot more, stretch a bit,

have more mental clarity, and the best is not having to stay in bed

for days. I had a slight attack a few days ago but caught it in

time so I was able to minimize it. ANY body have any attacks like

this? And Sue, yes mine at one point were like panic attacks with

bad heart beating and such, but most of the doctors said it is not

anxiety or panic (and I just had very bad anxiety at my last MRI and

it is nothing like what these attacks are so I am pretty confident

it is not that). Sorry so long! Love Nan

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Sue,

Do you have anything like ebay in England? . . . Maybe you could find one of the oxygen machines through it. . . I can't believe the machines should cost so much!

I think is thinking clearly now. Maybe she can help you find one that's affordable.

Be sure to eat plenty of healthy oils . . . Almonds are advocados were mentioned . . . Coconut oil is good too. ..

All the fungal stuff has it's own weight, so you can expect to lose some weight initially . . . but it should come back when you start putting healthy organisms back in your body. . . It's not just about eliminating foods, it's about eating healthy ones too . . . Look for calorie packed foods like nuts!. . . Do you have pecans there? . . . They are incredible after being roasted for just a bit.

Love,

Rogene

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Sue,

Do you have anything like ebay in England? . . . Maybe you could find one of the oxygen machines through it. . . I can't believe the machines should cost so much!

I think is thinking clearly now. Maybe she can help you find one that's affordable.

Be sure to eat plenty of healthy oils . . . Almonds are advocados were mentioned . . . Coconut oil is good too. ..

All the fungal stuff has it's own weight, so you can expect to lose some weight initially . . . but it should come back when you start putting healthy organisms back in your body. . . It's not just about eliminating foods, it's about eating healthy ones too . . . Look for calorie packed foods like nuts!. . . Do you have pecans there? . . . They are incredible after being roasted for just a bit.

Love,

Rogene

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Hi Rogene,

Yes we do have ebay but they don’t sell

them over here (foot baths)

I have not looked at the machines or if

they sell them on ebay I will though.

We do have pecans but I thought I could

not eat nuts on the candida diet??

Thanks Sue

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of saxony01

Sent: 08 January 2008 14:37

Subject: Re: About

the attacks nan

Sue,

Do you have anything

like ebay in England?

.. . . Maybe you could find one of the oxygen machines through it. . . I can't

believe the machines should cost so much!

I think is

thinking clearly now. Maybe she can help you find one that's affordable.

Be sure to eat plenty

of healthy oils . . . Almonds are advocados were mentioned . . . Coconut oil is

good too. ..

All the fungal stuff

has it's own weight, so you can expect to lose some weight initially . . . but

it should come back when you start putting healthy organisms back in your body.

.. . It's not just about eliminating foods, it's about eating healthy ones too .

.. . Look for calorie packed foods like nuts!. . . Do you have pecans there? . .

.. They are incredible after being roasted for just a bit.

Love,

Rogene

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Hi Rogene,

Yes we do have ebay but they don’t sell

them over here (foot baths)

I have not looked at the machines or if

they sell them on ebay I will though.

We do have pecans but I thought I could

not eat nuts on the candida diet??

Thanks Sue

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of saxony01

Sent: 08 January 2008 14:37

Subject: Re: About

the attacks nan

Sue,

Do you have anything

like ebay in England?

.. . . Maybe you could find one of the oxygen machines through it. . . I can't

believe the machines should cost so much!

I think is

thinking clearly now. Maybe she can help you find one that's affordable.

Be sure to eat plenty

of healthy oils . . . Almonds are advocados were mentioned . . . Coconut oil is

good too. ..

All the fungal stuff

has it's own weight, so you can expect to lose some weight initially . . . but

it should come back when you start putting healthy organisms back in your body.

.. . It's not just about eliminating foods, it's about eating healthy ones too .

.. . Look for calorie packed foods like nuts!. . . Do you have pecans there? . .

.. They are incredible after being roasted for just a bit.

Love,

Rogene

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Sue,

I would avoid peanuts - and possibly pistachio's - altogether. . . The problem is mold. I haven't seen anything on pistachios having a mold problem . . . but I question some I've seen. Roasting nuts for a bit should help kill off any mold spores.

However, when you need calories and protein, I can't see anything wrong with nuts . . . Sugar and refined grains are the major problems . . . As long as you stay away from those, you should be able to eat nuts in moderation . . . Almonds are especially good . . . One friend swears that seven almonds a day keeps her healthy. She's in her mid seventies and doing great!

I'm wondering if someone might try to sell an oxygen device that they bought but don't want anymore through your ebay . . . If so, you might find a very good price - but you would have to watch it regularly. . .

We also have www.craigslist.com here . . . It's like ebay, but there's no charge for listing things. I've heard it's going world-wide. . . It's really intended for people to personally pick up whatever they buy- so finding something here wouldn't be acceptable . . . especially since the wiring requirements are different.

Hugs,

Rogene

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Sue,

I would avoid peanuts - and possibly pistachio's - altogether. . . The problem is mold. I haven't seen anything on pistachios having a mold problem . . . but I question some I've seen. Roasting nuts for a bit should help kill off any mold spores.

However, when you need calories and protein, I can't see anything wrong with nuts . . . Sugar and refined grains are the major problems . . . As long as you stay away from those, you should be able to eat nuts in moderation . . . Almonds are especially good . . . One friend swears that seven almonds a day keeps her healthy. She's in her mid seventies and doing great!

I'm wondering if someone might try to sell an oxygen device that they bought but don't want anymore through your ebay . . . If so, you might find a very good price - but you would have to watch it regularly. . .

We also have www.craigslist.com here . . . It's like ebay, but there's no charge for listing things. I've heard it's going world-wide. . . It's really intended for people to personally pick up whatever they buy- so finding something here wouldn't be acceptable . . . especially since the wiring requirements are different.

Hugs,

Rogene

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