just curious

[Guest guest]

>Breast fed or formula fed -we have both in this group with apraxia.

I'm curious if there is anyone here with a child formula fed with

the new EFA enriched formula that is now apraxic. Anyone?

Landon was a formula baby with EFA's. I didn't know there was a

problem with Landon until he was 15 months old. That was when it

was obvious there was a problem.

Tina

>

> Hi Dana!

>

> Many of us breast fed our babies who later were diagnosed as

> apraxic. Many of us come from families of no speech impairments.

> About the essential fatty acids in the breast milk -that's true

they

> are supposed to be there. If however you don't consume enough in

> your diet, which most of us don't, then the baby's growing brain

> will pull from the mother's supply. We learned this at the First

> Apraxia Conference http://www.cherab.org/news/scientific.html

where

> Dr. ph Hibbeln was one of our speakers.

>

> Here's just one article that quotes him:

> " A 1998 study by ph Hibbeln of the National Institutes of

Health

> found a significant inverse correlation between DHA intake and

> incidence of clinical depression, and a more recent study by

Hibbeln

> found the same relationship between DHA levels in breast milk and

> incidence of postpartum depression. During pregnancy, the placenta

> pumps DHA from the expectant mother to the fetus, increasing the

> mother's susceptibility to depression. "

> http://www.beachpsych.com/pages/cc46.html

>

> Apparently different countries have different amounts

> of EFAs in the breast milk due to today's diet. US is low overall.

>

> Breast fed or formula fed -we have both in this group with

apraxia.

> I'm curious if there is anyone here with a child formula fed with

> the new EFA enriched formula that is now apraxic. Anyone?

>

> Since you are from NJ, (didn't someone just say South Jersey?!)

One

> of my best friends, -Ross MD is an internist through

> Kimball Medical and refers to her patients (mostly senior

citizens)

> as " fish deficient " She supplemented herself with essential fatty

> acids while she was pregnant with her son, and breast fed for

awhile

> too. When she started to use formula as well she squeezed a

capsule

> of fish oil into the formula. Added a capsule of fish oil to his

> food etc. What's amazing about this is that her son was born a

> preemie due to a pregnancy complication. It's not unusual for

> preemies to be slightly delayed. Her son is above average in his

> abilities! Sounds fishy huh? But it's true -that's why I posted

> her name and where she works because some of you have checked

(just

> don't bug her too much because she runs a very busy practice and

ask

> her questions she finds silly like why should I give my child fish

> oil or she'll ask you " why do you choose to feed your child french

> fries? " )

>

> (you're from the Tom's River area of Jersey right?)

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

I don't think there is a connection. Kids in Japan have been using

EFA/DHA enhanced formula for years. But, yes, my 2.0 year-old

appears to be apraxic and was raised on it from four months.

> >Breast fed or formula fed -we have both in this group with

apraxia.

> I'm curious if there is anyone here with a child formula fed with

> the new EFA enriched formula that is now apraxic. Anyone?

[Guest guest]

My son had the EFA formula- speech delay. Not diagnosed with anything yet.

He's 2 and says 5 words.

His 2 older sisters had regular formula- they were little chatter boxes. :-)

I wonder with my son I had gestastional diabetes in which I was on insulin.

I wonder if that affected anything?? I also remember for my stress tests

that I had one was very inactive. The doc was about to tell me to go to the

hospital, but the nurse suggested he was sleeping and for me to move around

in which it did become active again. I wonder if that had anything to do

with it. I was almost at the end of my pregnancy then.

>From: " Jeff " <kerripat@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: [ ] Re: just curious

>Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:55:47 -0000

>

>

> > I'm curious if there is anyone here with a child formula fed with

> > the new EFA enriched formula that is now apraxic. Anyone?

> >

>

>

>Hi ,

>

>My family history is that my oldest Meg (3.5 apraxic) was very bad

>at latching on and really was having a hard time in general

>breastfeeding, so being a first-time mom I gave up in less than a

>week. She was NOT on EFA-enriched formula, because she was on a

>special one (Nutramigen) that didn't come enriched at that time. My

>second daughter Kate breastfed until around 6 months and then went

>on the EFA-enriched formula, and she is definitely NOT apraxic.

>

>So my family does support the theory.

>

>Kerri

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi !

Did you ever find that doctor you were looking for in Japan yet? It

doesn't appear that we have many members from Japan -but could be the

language barrier. Are there lots of other children like yours that

live around you? Perhaps you can let us know when you find that

doctor?

Also even though one would think the enriched formula is better than

non enriched with EFA -the formula of the EFAs as we now know is also

so important. Even though one capsule of ProEFA is 'about' the same

as the amount of EFAs in the infant formula -the way the body breaks

down the EFAs isn't the same as just giving them the right formula to

start as we've learned.

" The question is can EFAs be supplemented to younger children so that

verbal apraxia/dyspraxia can be prevented? The simple theoretical

answer to this is a yes. Recently, the U.S. Food and Drug

Administration approved the addition of 100 mg/day of DHA

(Docosahexaenoic, an omega-3 EFA) and 100 mg/day of ARA (arachidonic

acid, an omega-6 EFA) that is produced from GLA to infant formula. The

purpose is to make infant formulas more like breast milk. So, giving

the content of one ProEFA to an eight months old would provide about

the same amount of DHA and half the ARA. Since some of the linoleic

acid from the borage oil will be transformed by body into ARA, the

total ARA will be close to the 100 mg/day dose. The 140 mg of EPA will

be welcomed by the body. "

http://www.cherab.org/information/dietaryeffects/efatips.html#Here

(Guess my friend was ahead of her time just squeezing the

formula of fish oil choice right in her baby's formula)

Oh and your message about your friend's child who just started talking

at 3 -that's about 75% of late talkers. Chances are high most late

talkers will just start talking. My Aunt Betty was one of them and

now is fluent in two languages. But does the child also have soft

signs?

http://www.cherab.org/information/speechlanguage/parentfriendlysoftsigns.html

or signs of oral apraxia?

http://www.cherab.org/information/speechlanguage/oralapraxia.html

As I always say -not every tick or mosquito bite leads to West Nile or

Lyme Disease, and not every late talker will have apraxia -but it's at

least wise to know the warning signs.

=====

[Guest guest]

My first was breastfed for 5 mos and he spoke in sentences at 24

mos. My second was breastfed until 18 mos and she spoke in single

words at 18 mos. My third was breastfed for 30 mos and she spoke in

single words at 16 mos and my fourth is still breastfed at 33 mos

and he was diagnosed with apraxia and dysarthria. my fourth was born

with non-hereditary birth defects whereas my others were not.

I think being breastfed is best for optimal health. My son is a

resistent eater (he wouldn't even try solids until he was 12 mos

old) and he won't tolerate fish oil. He vomits every time. Since he

nevre finishes anything it's hard to disguise it in food and get him

to take the full dose. I even bought the Nordic Naturals DHA

Strawberry flavored one which smells like strawberry but doesn't

even remotely taste like it! LOL! (I know because I taste everything

I intend to give to my children.)

Best wishes,

Debra

>

> I am a mother of a 4year old with severe apraxia, mild

hypotonia, and mild right side dysarthria and SID ( sensory

seekinig). I was just curious about how many mothers breastfed

their child who were diagnosed with Apraxia. My son was breastfed

until he was almost 2 years old, and as far as I know breastfeeding

is suppose to be the best thing for babies it gives them all the

nutrients that are in all the fish oils we supplement our children

with, and it strengthens their oral cavitiy because it takes a lot

of facial muscles to breastfeed, so I cannot understand how my son

ended up with muscle and tongue weakness in the oral area. Also, my

in-laws keep asking me how he ended up with all these problems even

though I breastfed him Forever! I am going to scream! So out of

curiousity, how many mom's breastfed their children who were

diagnosed with oral and verbal Apraxia? I don't know if this

was ever posted, but I am just curious and would like to inform my

in- laws that I am not the only mother out there that nursed a child

who ended up with Apraxia. Thanks for all the info. Dana in NJ

(mom to 4years old with Apraxia )and ph 6 years old

(typical)

[Guest guest]

http://www.enfamil.com/lipil/aboutenfamillipil.html

I disagree with this. > " The question is can EFAs be supplemented to

younger children so that verbal apraxia/dyspraxia can be prevented?

The simple theoretical answer to this is a yes. "

Landon was on the formula that is suppose to be the closest thing to

breast milk since he was born and he has apraxia. He was a normal

babbling baby and he started talking at around 9 months. After we

took him off the formula he regressed and there was silence. My

older son was also a formula baby after he was about 2 months old.

No lipil formula and he has been a chatter box since he was 11

months old.

I have read sensory integration dysfunction starts in the womb.

This is something Landon also has. I had a difficult delivery with

him also. I am probably one that is EFA deficient. There are so

many possible reasons to what causes apraxia.

Tina

>

> Hi !

>

> Did you ever find that doctor you were looking for in Japan yet?

It

> doesn't appear that we have many members from Japan -but could be

the

> language barrier. Are there lots of other children like yours

that

> live around you? Perhaps you can let us know when you find that

> doctor?

>

> Also even though one would think the enriched formula is better

than

> non enriched with EFA -the formula of the EFAs as we now know is

also

> so important. Even though one capsule of ProEFA is 'about' the

same

> as the amount of EFAs in the infant formula -the way the body

breaks

> down the EFAs isn't the same as just giving them the right formula

to

> start as we've learned.

>

> " The question is can EFAs be supplemented to younger children so

that

> verbal apraxia/dyspraxia can be prevented? The simple theoretical

> answer to this is a yes. Recently, the U.S. Food and Drug

> Administration approved the addition of 100 mg/day of DHA

> (Docosahexaenoic, an omega-3 EFA) and 100 mg/day of ARA

(arachidonic

> acid, an omega-6 EFA) that is produced from GLA to infant formula.

The

> purpose is to make infant formulas more like breast milk. So,

giving

> the content of one ProEFA to an eight months old would provide

about

> the same amount of DHA and half the ARA. Since some of the

linoleic

> acid from the borage oil will be transformed by body into ARA, the

> total ARA will be close to the 100 mg/day dose. The 140 mg of EPA

will

> be welcomed by the body. "

> http://www.cherab.org/information/dietaryeffects/efatips.html#Here

>

> (Guess my friend was ahead of her time just squeezing the

> formula of fish oil choice right in her baby's formula)

>

> Oh and your message about your friend's child who just started

talking

> at 3 -that's about 75% of late talkers. Chances are high most

late

> talkers will just start talking. My Aunt Betty was one of them

and

> now is fluent in two languages. But does the child also have soft

> signs?

>

http://www.cherab.org/information/speechlanguage/parentfriendlysoftsi

gns.html

>

> or signs of oral apraxia?

> http://www.cherab.org/information/speechlanguage/oralapraxia.html

>

> As I always say -not every tick or mosquito bite leads to West

Nile or

> Lyme Disease, and not every late talker will have apraxia -but

it's at

> least wise to know the warning signs.

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

Debra if your child is that resistant to new foods I would not try

to get the whole or even half the dosage into him at once. As you

will see from a very old archive below which is now up on CHERAB and

Speechville, at times I had to use a drop to a few drops mixed into

food just to get him to not notice the fish oil (this is when we

used the Efalex -the ProEFA is less fishy)

Also just like the formula post I put out -if it's the wrong formula

of EFAs it either won't work, or won't work that well. The pure DHA

formula is higher in DHA than EPA (you want one higher in EPA than

DHA -both of which are Omega 3s) and it has no GLA -or Omega 6. The

cod liver oil or any oil from the liver of the fish naturally

contains vitamin A as well which you may or may not want. Fish oils

not made from the liver of the fish do not contain the vitamin A.

Here's the message of how I got fish oils into my son Tanner. He

today swallows the capsules (Thank you!!!)

My 5 year old apraxic son Tanner is a trooper and takes the ProEFA

from a spoon every day. I hold his nose for him, but he doesn't mind

the taste. We started the holding the nose thing when Tanner used to

take the efalex, which is very fishy smelling and tasting, and it's

kind of our ritual now.

I rip only half of the protective waxy seal off the top of the

ProEFA bottle, and put a pin in the part that is left. When it's

time to give Tanner his ProEFA, I open the top of the bottle, pull

out the pin, put a hole in the capsule, put back the pin, and

squeeze the oil onto a spoon.

Here are some other things we used to have to do when Tanner took

the efalex which he hated. (Efalex is fishier tasting and smelling)

1. We would put just put a drop of fish oil in the middle of the

bread for a sandwich and cover with peanut butter, a drop in the

middle of a pancake, a drop in the middle of a bowl of spaghetti,

etc. if we put too much fish oil, Tanner would not eat the food.

2. Glenn and Tanner and Dakota would each hold a cup filled with a

dash of juice. Tanner's juice was always " spiked " with efalex.

Tanner is very competitive and would love a good race. " Ready set

Go! " and Glenn would hold the cup to his mouth without drinking and

then stop and have all three compare who drank the most. Of course,

Tanner was winning! They would keep doing this until Tanner won

(which meant he finished the efalex fish oil spiked juice)

3. I used to bribe Tanner with gummy bears that he could have after.

Didn't work as good as the first two. But for a long time we did a

combination of number one and number three.

4. Tanner's older brother started taking the fish oil, and Tanner

wants to do what Dakota does.

5. As Tanner got older, at about four, we started calling the fish

oil " yucky magic fish oil which helps you talk " and we really made a

big deal about how yucky it was, and would " show off " to people how

Tanner could take this yucky stuff and eat it right off the spoon.

It worked for Tanner!

It was lots of work, but well worth the results. If your child will

not take ProEFA, maybe buy some efalex and try that. Compared to

efalex, a sock would probably be a treat!

Again, some EFAs are liked by some children-hated by others. With

ProEFA - many kids from the Cherab group will just eat it from a

spoon, or chew the capsule since borage oil is naturally sweet. I

can say that ProEFA does not smell like some of the other EFAs we've

used. After a year and a half of Tanner hiding behind the couch when

it was time to take other fish oils, this was amazing even without

all the great breakthroughs he's had!

The improvements when on the right supplement and the regressions on

the wrong one are pretty quick-within weeks in most cases-so again

you can see for yourself-like most of us did already!

http://www.cherab.org/information/dietaryeffects/efatips.html#My

=====

[Guest guest]

> Oh and your message about your friend's child who just started

talking

> at 3 -that's about 75% of late talkers. Chances are high most

late

> talkers will just start talking. My Aunt Betty was one of them

and

> now is fluent in two languages. But does the child also have soft

> signs?

I haven't found a doctor yet, but that will have to wait for a

couple months because we are just too busy this time of year.

You mention that 75 percent of late talkers just start talking, and

I have heard that figure, too, but I have yet to hear a profile of

the kids who actually followed that trajectory. There are many forms

of late talking - not just apraxia, as you well know. The only

information that I have come across gives more positive outcomes to

kids who point and gesture, and to those who have a lot of sounds in

their repertoire, regardless of lack of word use. So, I have been

really disheartened because my son has so few sounds. To hear that a

child with no consonants by age two developed naturally into speech

made me feel more hopeful than I have for many months. I shared

because I think there might be others on this board who have really

young kids.

Did the child have any soft signs? Well, she mentioned that he had

trouble blowing through a straw and that therapy that helped him to

develop strength in his diaphragm and oral coordination was best. It

could be a soft sign, or maybe not but...

[Guest guest]

Thank you that was very inspirational. God Bless Your Family, Dana

[Guest guest]

Just another thought in this...when I looked back on when Abby's

speech issues started, they were at around 17 months. She previously

had babbled and had some words. Ironically, she weaned herself at

around 15 months, and by that time, she also was on cow's milk

rather than formula (which has EFA's). She has done very well since

we started her on omegas. Unlike many of the other kids with

apraxia -she seemed to develop hers after a series of illnesses

around the same time (15-16 months), and when she was weaned

(imagine my guilt...I had nursed my first until he was almost 2 1/2,

he just wouldn't give it up...)she was in fact not getting any of

the extra EFAs either through breastmilk or forumla....Anyway - lots

of factors here - but I wonder if the lack of EFA's in any way

contributed to her problems, immunity wise or speech wise...anyway -

just some more to ponder.

Ann (mom to 2 1/2 year old Abby, who finally started

imitating " mmmm " this week...)

>

> Hi Dana!

>

> Many of us breast fed our babies who later were diagnosed as

> apraxic. Many of us come from families of no speech impairments.

> About the essential fatty acids in the breast milk -that's true

they

> are supposed to be there. If however you don't consume enough in

> your diet, which most of us don't, then the baby's growing brain

> will pull from the mother's supply. We learned this at the First

> Apraxia Conference http://www.cherab.org/news/scientific.html

where

> Dr. ph Hibbeln was one of our speakers.

>

> Here's just one article that quotes him:

> " A 1998 study by ph Hibbeln of the National Institutes of

Health

> found a significant inverse correlation between DHA intake and

> incidence of clinical depression, and a more recent study by

Hibbeln

> found the same relationship between DHA levels in breast milk and

> incidence of postpartum depression. During pregnancy, the placenta

> pumps DHA from the expectant mother to the fetus, increasing the

> mother's susceptibility to depression. "

> http://www.beachpsych.com/pages/cc46.html

>

> Apparently different countries have different amounts

> of EFAs in the breast milk due to today's diet. US is low overall.

>

> Breast fed or formula fed -we have both in this group with

apraxia.

> I'm curious if there is anyone here with a child formula fed with

> the new EFA enriched formula that is now apraxic. Anyone?

>

> Since you are from NJ, (didn't someone just say South Jersey?!)

One

> of my best friends, -Ross MD is an internist through

> Kimball Medical and refers to her patients (mostly senior

citizens)

> as " fish deficient " She supplemented herself with essential fatty

> acids while she was pregnant with her son, and breast fed for

awhile

> too. When she started to use formula as well she squeezed a

capsule

> of fish oil into the formula. Added a capsule of fish oil to his

> food etc. What's amazing about this is that her son was born a

> preemie due to a pregnancy complication. It's not unusual for

> preemies to be slightly delayed. Her son is above average in his

> abilities! Sounds fishy huh? But it's true -that's why I posted

> her name and where she works because some of you have checked

(just

> don't bug her too much because she runs a very busy practice and

ask

> her questions she finds silly like why should I give my child fish

> oil or she'll ask you " why do you choose to feed your child french

> fries? " )

>

> (you're from the Tom's River area of Jersey right?)

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

I am the mother of a 4.5 year old who was breastfed for 13 months. He

showed signs of oral apraxia from the moment of birth (he had a poor suck

and I even commented to the post partum nurse, who thought I was a crazy

first time mother.) I am also a pediatric nurse who has had years of

experience feeding children with speech and feeding difficulties. I knew my

son was showing signs of oral motor dysfunction from the very beginning;

unfortunately, no one else believed there was anything wrong until he walked

and his " global apraxia " signs became more significant. I was interested

(seeing as my son has a left sided deficit) to read your post b/c I do not

find that many people write here about children who seem to display

dysarthria signs on predominately one side of their body. This just shows

you that the apraxia has nothing to due with being breastfed; otherwise it

would not have been apparent in my sons first day of life.

, in NJ

_____

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Dana & Matt

Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 8:30 AM

Subject: [ ] just curious

I am a mother of a 4year old with severe apraxia, mild hypotonia, and

mild right side dysarthria and SID ( sensory seekinig). I was just

curious about how many mothers breastfed their child who were diagnosed

with Apraxia. My son was breastfed until he was almost 2 years old,

and as far as I know breastfeeding is suppose to be the best thing for

babies it gives them all the nutrients that are in all the fish oils we

supplement our children with, and it strengthens their oral cavitiy

because it takes a lot of facial muscles to breastfeed, so I cannot

understand how my son ended up with muscle and tongue weakness in the

oral area. Also, my in-laws keep asking me how he ended up with all

these problems even though I breastfed him Forever! I am going to

scream! So out of curiousity, how many mom's breastfed their children

who were diagnosed with oral and verbal Apraxia? I don't know if this

was ever posted, but I am just curious and would like to inform my in-

laws that I am not the only mother out there that nursed a child who

ended up with Apraxia. Thanks for all the info. Dana in NJ (mom to

4years old with Apraxia )and ph 6 years old (typical)

[Guest guest]

go to: http://www.cidpusa.org/P/ivig.htm so far it has worked for me.. Ask your Doctor about it..gina_blincoe2000 <reddog02@...> wrote: What is IVIG? I am all for trying anything that doesn't have the sideeffects that the shots have. __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

My two boys, including my apraxic child got their first teeth in their

5th month. They were normal sized teeth and almost perfectly

straight. My apraxic child has had three cavities, two on each front

tooth most likely because he couldn't lick food off there. His

hardest tongue placement was for the L sound. He just got his second

filling this past month on one of his 2 yr old molars. He'll be 6 in

Sept. My oldest has at least half a dozen filling which I attribute

more to no fluoride in the water than weak enamel. His filling were

all done at age 4 and we had no fluoride in the water until age 3.5.

I have lots of fillings as an adult, but I have excellent oral

hygeine. Since the big day of many fillings (all done without

anesthesia for all my kids and in white since it bonds better - we

avoided silver crowns this way!) we have used a brushed on and spit

out fluoride treatment weekly and it has pretty much kept the cavities

at bay.

Now my just turned 1 yr old daughter got her first teeth at 11 months.

Her first two are nice and straight and normal sized. We're watching

her carefully for speech issues. She has little variation in sounds

and only says Mama so far and once in a blue moon she'll say Hi.

Miche

On 8/17/07, Liz <lizlaw@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Was either your apraxic kid and/or any of your kids, late to get teeth?

> If so, can you give me gender and age of first tooth? Also, are teeth

> unusually big, crooked? Weak teeth enamel?

>

>

[Guest guest]

No problems here. 's first tooth: six months. Nice and

straight with no cavities thus far (but no x-rays yet either).

>

> Was either your apraxic kid and/or any of your kids, late to get

teeth?

> If so, can you give me gender and age of first tooth? Also, are teeth

> unusually big, crooked? Weak teeth enamel?

>

[Guest guest]

all 3 of my kids (1 dx apraxic) got their first teeth around 11 - 12

mos old. Many people told me (esp. in-laws) that was late, I didn't

mind as I was BF. My oldest has weak enamel on her 2 upper front

teeth, but she's not the apraxic one! My son w/ apraxia hates to have

his teeth brushed (loves to chew on the brush instead), so I hate to

see what his teeth are like according to the dentist. He's always gone

w/ me to the dentist and actually sat in the chair and let them count

his teeth last time at about 26 mos. old.

Bonnie

>

> Was either your apraxic kid and/or any of your kids, late to get

teeth?

> If so, can you give me gender and age of first tooth? Also, are teeth

> unusually big, crooked? Weak teeth enamel?

>

[Guest guest]

Please find out what white they used. Some whites are worse than silver.

I am still working on this before my new crown arrives.

The Fluoride tooth enamel argument only goes so far. It could be that

the no fluoride and weak teeth generally due to metal, malabsorption,

both, some other reason as yet unknown, caused that. Just a thought.

I, too have a mouth full of metal and excellent dental hygeine,

fluoridated water my whole life. Hmm.

I do think it is great that the baby is making the m sound in a word

already.

Grassia wrote:

>My two boys, including my apraxic child got their first teeth in their

>5th month. They were normal sized teeth and almost perfectly

>straight. My apraxic child has had three cavities, two on each front

>tooth most likely because he couldn't lick food off there. His

>hardest tongue placement was for the L sound. He just got his second

>filling this past month on one of his 2 yr old molars. He'll be 6 in

>Sept. My oldest has at least half a dozen filling which I attribute

>more to no fluoride in the water than weak enamel. His filling were

>all done at age 4 and we had no fluoride in the water until age 3.5.

>I have lots of fillings as an adult, but I have excellent oral

>hygeine. Since the big day of many fillings (all done without

>anesthesia for all my kids and in white since it bonds better - we

>avoided silver crowns this way!) we have used a brushed on and spit

>out fluoride treatment weekly and it has pretty much kept the cavities

>at bay.

>

>Now my just turned 1 yr old daughter got her first teeth at 11 months.

> Her first two are nice and straight and normal sized. We're watching

>her carefully for speech issues. She has little variation in sounds

>and only says Mama so far and once in a blue moon she'll say Hi.

>

>Miche

>

>On 8/17/07, Liz <lizlaw@...> wrote:

>

>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>Was either your apraxic kid and/or any of your kids, late to get teeth?

>> If so, can you give me gender and age of first tooth? Also, are teeth

>> unusually big, crooked? Weak teeth enamel?

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

No, mine had his first tooth at 5.5 months and they are perfect and

white now.

>

> Was either your apraxic kid and/or any of your kids, late to get

teeth?

> If so, can you give me gender and age of first tooth? Also, are teeth

> unusually big, crooked? Weak teeth enamel?

>

[Guest guest]

hi,

To answer your questions. My son was late to get his first tooth at age 8mos

according to our pediatrician. Some of his adult teeth are coming in bigger and

very crooked especially the two front top teeth. Some of his others are coming

in bigger and also crooked. He has been going to a dentist since age 3 yo. So

far now at age 9yo (july 31st) he has not had any cavities or any signs of any

decay at all. He actually has not had much flouride that i know of so far except

in tooth paste . I did give him the prescribed flouride drops as a baby due to

he gagged on them.

There one thing about my sons mouth i would like to tell you about though. The

dentist told me that my sons mouth was very small and under developed and his

jaw also looks underdeveloped . My son has had xrays of his teeth several times

now. They all seem to show according to the dentist the same finding so far due

the fact every time my son goes the dentist tells me the same thing about his

mouth. The dentist also mentioned my son has the mouth of a preemie due the

extent of the development of it. He was full term they claim. (another story).

Please I have no answers yet to this information due to the fact that none of

doctors my son sees has any idea what this all means. They all seem to think it

could be related to my sons developmental delays and the oral and verbal

dyspraxia. Along with a whole host of isssues.

My son they claim will be having some oral surgery done when he turn 12 on his

mouth. He has no more room for any more adult teeth. He has only lost 8 so far.

Plus looks like he will require braces to when he turns 12 or so.

Hope i have been of some help.

Jeanne

Berlin, NH

Liz <lizlaw@...> wrote:

Was either your apraxic kid and/or any of your kids, late to get

teeth?

If so, can you give me gender and age of first tooth? Also, are teeth

unusually big, crooked? Weak teeth enamel?

[Guest guest]

Are they weak or thing in any way...like gluten sensitive teeth?

wrote:

>No, mine had his first tooth at 5.5 months and they are perfect and

>white now.

>

>

>

>

>>Was either your apraxic kid and/or any of your kids, late to get

>>

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>teeth?

>

>

>>If so, can you give me gender and age of first tooth? Also, are teeth

>>unusually big, crooked? Weak teeth enamel?

>>

>>

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>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

During one of my Bradley training seminars in NY I met a nice woman

from LI with three babies. Her middle child was 16 mos old and did not

have a single tooth - she is perfectly fine and they came in by 2.5. I

think this has more to do with genetics than disorders actually. The

age range varies so much for many milestones including teeth that I am

sure the pediatricians can hardly keep it straight.

April

[Guest guest]

What is the range?

April Larsen wrote:

>During one of my Bradley training seminars in NY I met a nice woman

>from LI with three babies. Her middle child was 16 mos old and did not

>have a single tooth - she is perfectly fine and they came in by 2.5. I

>think this has more to do with genetics than disorders actually. The

>age range varies so much for many milestones including teeth that I am

>sure the pediatricians can hardly keep it straight.

>April

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

At 09:04 AM 8/19/2007, you wrote:

>What is the range?

I asked my daugther's pediatrician at her 9 mo check when no tooth

was in sight. She said the normal range for the first tooth is

between 4 and 12 months, but she's seen children get it before and

some after so I shouldn't worry. I've known a couple babies who were

born with teeth. My sons both got their first at 5 months with two

more popping up about every two weeks. My daughter got her first two

at 11 months and there is no sign of more coming and it's been five

weeks since those first. There is a wide range of normal with

teeth! Amazingly she is a better eater than both of my sons. She

manages to gum and squish just about everything with her tongue. She

also overstuffs like my apraxic son did.

Miche

[Guest guest]

Your daughter's tooth pattern fits my son's to a t. There is a funny

story line I think in My Big Fat Greek Wedding about a baby born with

teeth.

Grassia wrote:

>At 09:04 AM 8/19/2007, you wrote:

>

>

>

>>What is the range?

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>

>I asked my daugther's pediatrician at her 9 mo check when no tooth

>was in sight. She said the normal range for the first tooth is

>between 4 and 12 months, but she's seen children get it before and

>some after so I shouldn't worry. I've known a couple babies who were

>born with teeth. My sons both got their first at 5 months with two

>more popping up about every two weeks. My daughter got her first two

>at 11 months and there is no sign of more coming and it's been five

>weeks since those first. There is a wide range of normal with

>teeth! Amazingly she is a better eater than both of my sons. She

>manages to gum and squish just about everything with her tongue. She

>also overstuffs like my apraxic son did.

>

>Miche

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

first boy (NT for now, assessment for ASD coming up): 1st tooth at 11 months,

normal teeth

second boy (DCD, verbal apraxia, Asperger's) : 1st tooth at 4months, normal

size, but crooked, normal teeth

third boy (NT) : 1st tooth at 5months, nice shape, but very bad enamel, lots

of cavities due to BF for 3 years.

Liz <lizlaw@...> wrote:

Was either your apraxic kid and/or any of your kids, late to get

teeth?

If so, can you give me gender and age of first tooth? Also, are teeth

unusually big, crooked? Weak teeth enamel?

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Use parchment paper to line a baking sheet. I think it browns things

better, anyway. I can taste the metal if I eat things baked in or on

aluminum. Ick. It makes me drool. I think it might be OK to tent a

dish with aluminum foil to keep it warm, but be wary of the foil

touching acidic foods (tomato sauce). If you use it to cover things

in the fridge, first put a layer of wax or parchment paper and then

the foil (same goes for plastic wrap).

>

> What about aluminum foil? I sometimes wrap it over the top of food

to keep

> it warm while I'm finishing some other cooking item. Or I use it

to line

> the cookie sheet when heating something like fries. Does that

cause

> aluminum to go into food? Is there some study that found that to

be true?

> (I'm not looking for anyone to just give their best guess.)

>

> Best,

> Lora

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