Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 airbucket@... wrote: > > Does anyone know what a parent can do if their child is NOT an ESE > student, has no 504 or IEP but is obviously having significant reading > delays? Is there an eval the parent can request that is not > necessarily a special ed eval? This is a regular ed student and the > parents feel the school should give extra help with reading problem he > has. > Depending on the county, if they are having delays, the school is probably working on interventions. The state has begun to adopt the RTi process which means that before any student is evaluated for ESE they have to be given ample opportunities to succeed through intensive interventions and the school has ruled out any sensory issues (sight/hearing). It is requiring that any students working below level are receiving interventions. Here's a flier about RTi: http://www.florida-rti.org/RtI-Parent-Brochure.pdf For instance, in my county...below level students are given extra reading time with small groups and the teacher, work on a reading computer program 3-5x a week, and we create a plan with more individual interventions on how to get the student to achieve a years progress in a year. We meet with parents frequently and discuss the individual's progress and needs. These students are always included in any resource we have available at our site (tutoring, resource teachers, etc).. There is no " test " or evaluation or diagnosis beyond 504/ESE or ELL in the school system that I know of. The way they know there's a problem is through the county/state wide tests and classroom observation. Unfortunately, there are many students who fall through the cracks because they don't qualify for ESE services because their evaluation scores don't point to a disability. The RTi process is meant to help those students as well as stop over-qualification into ESE groups. I'd recommend tutoring--if they have the resources 1-1 tutoring is the best option--and the parent working closely with the teacher to come up with ways to help the student " catch up " as much as possible. I hope this helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 airbucket@... wrote: > > Does anyone know what a parent can do if their child is NOT an ESE > student, has no 504 or IEP but is obviously having significant reading > delays? Is there an eval the parent can request that is not > necessarily a special ed eval? This is a regular ed student and the > parents feel the school should give extra help with reading problem he > has. > Depending on the county, if they are having delays, the school is probably working on interventions. The state has begun to adopt the RTi process which means that before any student is evaluated for ESE they have to be given ample opportunities to succeed through intensive interventions and the school has ruled out any sensory issues (sight/hearing). It is requiring that any students working below level are receiving interventions. Here's a flier about RTi: http://www.florida-rti.org/RtI-Parent-Brochure.pdf For instance, in my county...below level students are given extra reading time with small groups and the teacher, work on a reading computer program 3-5x a week, and we create a plan with more individual interventions on how to get the student to achieve a years progress in a year. We meet with parents frequently and discuss the individual's progress and needs. These students are always included in any resource we have available at our site (tutoring, resource teachers, etc).. There is no " test " or evaluation or diagnosis beyond 504/ESE or ELL in the school system that I know of. The way they know there's a problem is through the county/state wide tests and classroom observation. Unfortunately, there are many students who fall through the cracks because they don't qualify for ESE services because their evaluation scores don't point to a disability. The RTi process is meant to help those students as well as stop over-qualification into ESE groups. I'd recommend tutoring--if they have the resources 1-1 tutoring is the best option--and the parent working closely with the teacher to come up with ways to help the student " catch up " as much as possible. I hope this helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 The parents don’t know but arent thinking along those lines, they are thinking along the lines of what can they request from the school to get their child reading help. Would that be dyslexia testing? Thanks for your help. From: M T C Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 8:55 AM To: sList Subject: Re: question http://www.fldoe.org/Schools/florida-reponse-to-intervention.aspRtIHow do the parents know that there is no disability? Have they provied a written request for testing to learn if the child has a learning disability or dyslexia? From: airbucketcomcast (DOT) net <airbucketcomcast (DOT) net>Subject: questionTo: sList Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 7:59 PM Does anyone know what a parent can do if their child is NOT an ESE student, has no 504 or IEP but is obviously having significant reading delays? Is there an eval the parent can request that is not necessarily a special ed eval? This is a regular ed student and the parents feel the school should give extra help with reading problem he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 The parents don’t know but arent thinking along those lines, they are thinking along the lines of what can they request from the school to get their child reading help. Would that be dyslexia testing? Thanks for your help. From: M T C Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 8:55 AM To: sList Subject: Re: question http://www.fldoe.org/Schools/florida-reponse-to-intervention.aspRtIHow do the parents know that there is no disability? Have they provied a written request for testing to learn if the child has a learning disability or dyslexia? From: airbucketcomcast (DOT) net <airbucketcomcast (DOT) net>Subject: questionTo: sList Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 7:59 PM Does anyone know what a parent can do if their child is NOT an ESE student, has no 504 or IEP but is obviously having significant reading delays? Is there an eval the parent can request that is not necessarily a special ed eval? This is a regular ed student and the parents feel the school should give extra help with reading problem he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 thanks for your help. The school isnt working on interventions and even told the family the child doesn’t qualify for after school reading help when the child clearly has reading problems and is 8 years old. so basically the parent should request RTI or request again help for the child's reading issue? thanks! From: Jess Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 9:10 AM To: sList Subject: Re: question airbucket@... wrote:>> Does anyone know what a parent can do if their child is NOT an ESE > student, has no 504 or IEP but is obviously having significant reading > delays? Is there an eval the parent can request that is not > necessarily a special ed eval? This is a regular ed student and the > parents feel the school should give extra help with reading problem he > has.> Depending on the county, if they are having delays, the school is probably working on interventions. The state has begun to adopt the RTi process which means that before any student is evaluated for ESE they have to be given ample opportunities to succeed through intensive interventions and the school has ruled out any sensory issues (sight/hearing). It is requiring that any students working below level are receiving interventions.Here's a flier about RTi: http://www.florida-rti.org/RtI-Parent-Brochure.pdfFor instance, in my county...below level students are given extra reading time with small groups and the teacher, work on a reading computer program 3-5x a week, and we create a plan with more individual interventions on how to get the student to achieve a years progress in a year. We meet with parents frequently and discuss the individual's progress and needs. These students are always included in any resource we have available at our site (tutoring, resource teachers, etc)..There is no "test" or evaluation or diagnosis beyond 504/ESE or ELL in the school system that I know of. The way they know there's a problem is through the county/state wide tests and classroom observation. Unfortunately, there are many students who fall through the cracks because they don't qualify for ESE services because their evaluation scores don't point to a disability. The RTi process is meant to help those students as well as stop over-qualification into ESE groups.I'd recommend tutoring--if they have the resources 1-1 tutoring is the best option--and the parent working closely with the teacher to come up with ways to help the student "catch up" as much as possible.I hope this helps!------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 thanks for your help. The school isnt working on interventions and even told the family the child doesn’t qualify for after school reading help when the child clearly has reading problems and is 8 years old. so basically the parent should request RTI or request again help for the child's reading issue? thanks! From: Jess Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 9:10 AM To: sList Subject: Re: question airbucket@... wrote:>> Does anyone know what a parent can do if their child is NOT an ESE > student, has no 504 or IEP but is obviously having significant reading > delays? Is there an eval the parent can request that is not > necessarily a special ed eval? This is a regular ed student and the > parents feel the school should give extra help with reading problem he > has.> Depending on the county, if they are having delays, the school is probably working on interventions. The state has begun to adopt the RTi process which means that before any student is evaluated for ESE they have to be given ample opportunities to succeed through intensive interventions and the school has ruled out any sensory issues (sight/hearing). It is requiring that any students working below level are receiving interventions.Here's a flier about RTi: http://www.florida-rti.org/RtI-Parent-Brochure.pdfFor instance, in my county...below level students are given extra reading time with small groups and the teacher, work on a reading computer program 3-5x a week, and we create a plan with more individual interventions on how to get the student to achieve a years progress in a year. We meet with parents frequently and discuss the individual's progress and needs. These students are always included in any resource we have available at our site (tutoring, resource teachers, etc)..There is no "test" or evaluation or diagnosis beyond 504/ESE or ELL in the school system that I know of. The way they know there's a problem is through the county/state wide tests and classroom observation. Unfortunately, there are many students who fall through the cracks because they don't qualify for ESE services because their evaluation scores don't point to a disability. The RTi process is meant to help those students as well as stop over-qualification into ESE groups.I'd recommend tutoring--if they have the resources 1-1 tutoring is the best option--and the parent working closely with the teacher to come up with ways to help the student "catch up" as much as possible.I hope this helps!------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Some schools have reading specialists. Ask the ESE specialist at your school for who this person is at your school or the zoned/district person. From: airbucket@... Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:59 PM To: sList Subject: question Does anyone know what a parent can do if their child is NOT an ESE student, has no 504 or IEP but is obviously having significant reading delays? Is there an eval the parent can request that is not necessarily a special ed eval? This is a regular ed student and the parents feel the school should give extra help with reading problem he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Some schools have reading specialists. Ask the ESE specialist at your school for who this person is at your school or the zoned/district person. From: airbucket@... Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:59 PM To: sList Subject: question Does anyone know what a parent can do if their child is NOT an ESE student, has no 504 or IEP but is obviously having significant reading delays? Is there an eval the parent can request that is not necessarily a special ed eval? This is a regular ed student and the parents feel the school should give extra help with reading problem he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 there is also the possibility of a visual tracking problem. It is very common in spectrum kids, and not uncommon in NT's. We had seen the autism center at UCSF, the ophthalmologist, the pediatric neuroophthalmologist (also UCSF) and the developmental pediatrician (UC ) before the last one told me about the best visual report about a child she had ever read. It was from the binocular vision clinic at the ophthalmology school at UCBerkeley. After the exam, they found the problem was that he is unable to visually track lines of print. He received special lenses and exercises to improve his vision. The school was no help at all ( " well, he can see to play video games, so he is acting out about the reading " ) No, they are two different visual tasks. My son received the most complete, thorough exam and evaluation I have ever seen. And a three hour workup was under $110 to boot. They were amazing. If you want to call them, 510 642-2020, ask them where you can get your kid evaluated in your area for their type of workup. The written report will blow away everyone who says there is no problem. > > http://www.fldoe.org/Schools/florida-reponse-to-intervention.asp > RtI > > How do the parents know that there is no disability? Have they > provied a written request for testing to learn if the child has a > learning disability or dyslexia? > > > > > Subject: question > To: sList > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 7:59 PM > > > > Does anyone know what a parent can do if their child is NOT an ESE > student, has no 504 or IEP but is obviously having significant > reading delays? Is there an eval the parent can request that is not > necessarily a special ed eval? This is a regular ed student and the > parents feel the school should give extra help with reading problem > he has. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 there is also the possibility of a visual tracking problem. It is very common in spectrum kids, and not uncommon in NT's. We had seen the autism center at UCSF, the ophthalmologist, the pediatric neuroophthalmologist (also UCSF) and the developmental pediatrician (UC ) before the last one told me about the best visual report about a child she had ever read. It was from the binocular vision clinic at the ophthalmology school at UCBerkeley. After the exam, they found the problem was that he is unable to visually track lines of print. He received special lenses and exercises to improve his vision. The school was no help at all ( " well, he can see to play video games, so he is acting out about the reading " ) No, they are two different visual tasks. My son received the most complete, thorough exam and evaluation I have ever seen. And a three hour workup was under $110 to boot. They were amazing. If you want to call them, 510 642-2020, ask them where you can get your kid evaluated in your area for their type of workup. The written report will blow away everyone who says there is no problem. > > http://www.fldoe.org/Schools/florida-reponse-to-intervention.asp > RtI > > How do the parents know that there is no disability? Have they > provied a written request for testing to learn if the child has a > learning disability or dyslexia? > > > > > Subject: question > To: sList > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 7:59 PM > > > > Does anyone know what a parent can do if their child is NOT an ESE > student, has no 504 or IEP but is obviously having significant > reading delays? Is there an eval the parent can request that is not > necessarily a special ed eval? This is a regular ed student and the > parents feel the school should give extra help with reading problem > he has. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 there is also the possibility of a visual tracking problem. It is very common in spectrum kids, and not uncommon in NT's. We had seen the autism center at UCSF, the ophthalmologist, the pediatric neuroophthalmologist (also UCSF) and the developmental pediatrician (UC ) before the last one told me about the best visual report about a child she had ever read. It was from the binocular vision clinic at the ophthalmology school at UCBerkeley. After the exam, they found the problem was that he is unable to visually track lines of print. He received special lenses and exercises to improve his vision. The school was no help at all ( " well, he can see to play video games, so he is acting out about the reading " ) No, they are two different visual tasks. My son received the most complete, thorough exam and evaluation I have ever seen. And a three hour workup was under $110 to boot. They were amazing. If you want to call them, 510 642-2020, ask them where you can get your kid evaluated in your area for their type of workup. The written report will blow away everyone who says there is no problem. > > http://www.fldoe.org/Schools/florida-reponse-to-intervention.asp > RtI > > How do the parents know that there is no disability? Have they > provied a written request for testing to learn if the child has a > learning disability or dyslexia? > > > > > Subject: question > To: sList > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 7:59 PM > > > > Does anyone know what a parent can do if their child is NOT an ESE > student, has no 504 or IEP but is obviously having significant > reading delays? Is there an eval the parent can request that is not > necessarily a special ed eval? This is a regular ed student and the > parents feel the school should give extra help with reading problem > he has. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I have recently gone through some nastiness with my ex. 1-Prior to my daughter’s last IEP meeting, I sent letters via email to the advocate rescinding her participation and authorization to be her advocate, and also send another email to the ESE specialist. The day of the IEP meeting, the advocate is there(and whom the ex is paying). 2-Now thanks to the ex and the advocate(sounds like a baaad tv show), my daughter is segregated 75% in the cluster classroom. This is against my wish to have her educated in gen ed with her peers. 3-Our recent mediation agreement after he took me back to court(not wanting to pay child support) says we have to agree on everything medical and educational. 4-Today my older son, who is 17 told his dad that he didn’t want to go to his house anymore-he is supposed to go to his house until Thursday. Does at his age have a right to stay with me? He does not like the way he treats him(abusive), and he is afraid of him. So now the ex(the nastiness) is going to go back to court! 5-And his IEP is tomorrow. . . OH HAPPY DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Best of luck to you and . Sent from my iPhone I have recently gone through some nastiness with my ex. 1-Prior to my daughter’s last IEP meeting, I sent letters via email to the advocate rescinding her participation and authorization to be her advocate, and also send another email to the ESE specialist. The day of the IEP meeting, the advocate is there(and whom the ex is paying). 2-Now thanks to the ex and the advocate(sounds like a baaad tv show), my daughter is segregated 75% in the cluster classroom. This is against my wish to have her educated in gen ed with her peers. 3-Our recent mediation agreement after he took me back to court(not wanting to pay child support) says we have to agree on everything medical and educational. 4-Today my older son, who is 17 told his dad that he didn’t want to go to his house anymore-he is supposed to go to his house until Thursday. Does at his age have a right to stay with me? He does not like the way he treats him(abusive), and he is afraid of him. So now the ex(the nastiness) is going to go back to court! 5-And his IEP is tomorrow. . . OH HAPPY DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Best of luck to you and . Sent from my iPhone I have recently gone through some nastiness with my ex. 1-Prior to my daughter’s last IEP meeting, I sent letters via email to the advocate rescinding her participation and authorization to be her advocate, and also send another email to the ESE specialist. The day of the IEP meeting, the advocate is there(and whom the ex is paying). 2-Now thanks to the ex and the advocate(sounds like a baaad tv show), my daughter is segregated 75% in the cluster classroom. This is against my wish to have her educated in gen ed with her peers. 3-Our recent mediation agreement after he took me back to court(not wanting to pay child support) says we have to agree on everything medical and educational. 4-Today my older son, who is 17 told his dad that he didn’t want to go to his house anymore-he is supposed to go to his house until Thursday. Does at his age have a right to stay with me? He does not like the way he treats him(abusive), and he is afraid of him. So now the ex(the nastiness) is going to go back to court! 5-And his IEP is tomorrow. . . OH HAPPY DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Divorces and separations are very painful for everyone involved and they can lead some to engage in behaviors they wouldn't ordinarily engage in, usually out of fear and pain. If your son is expressing he doesn't want to go with his dad and you are the only one hearing it, it may be interpreted as parental alienation. I'm not saying this is the case but it happens. During separations/divorces, we parents need to be extremely careful as to what we say in front of our children. Even with being careful, children often feel they have to take sides with one parent viewed as victim and one as perpetrator. If your son was abused by his father/your ex, were there any abuse reports filed? Does your son see a therapist? I do believe at some point your child can state his wishes as to whether he wants to spend time or how much time with his father. A co-parenting agreement may be in order, clearing stating the obligations of the parents. Couples therapy for this purpose may also be an option. An advocate supported separating your daughter for most of the day in a cluster classroom? hmmmmm..... Good luck. What a challenging situation to be in... From: sherry blanco Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:32 PM To: Parent_to_Parents Cc: sList Subject: question I have recently gone through some nastiness with my ex. 1-Prior to my daughter’s last IEP meeting, I sent letters via email to the advocate rescinding her participation and authorization to be her advocate, and also send another email to the ESE specialist. The day of the IEP meeting, the advocate is there(and whom the ex is paying). 2-Now thanks to the ex and the advocate(sounds like a baaad tv show), my daughter is segregated 75% in the cluster classroom. This is against my wish to have her educated in gen ed with her peers. 3-Our recent mediation agreement after he took me back to court(not wanting to pay child support) says we have to agree on everything medical and educational. 4-Today my older son, who is 17 told his dad that he didn’t want to go to his house anymore-he is supposed to go to his house until Thursday. Does at his age have a right to stay with me? He does not like the way he treats him(abusive), and he is afraid of him. So now the ex(the nastiness) is going to go back to court! 5-And his IEP is tomorrow. . . OH HAPPY DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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