Guest guest Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 I was just reading about your battle with blood clots with the possibility of PE. I don't think I read everything you said about it, but I did see you mention that you can feel a blood clot coming on. I just wanted to share my experience with PE. At first, I wasn't going to, but then I read the post about how you feel about death. So, I don't think this will scare you, just give you another perspective. Four years ago my mom wasn't feeling well. She had blood work done and they discovered she had an internal bleed and needed immediate blood transfusions. I can't remember the exact amount she received, but it was a lot. She got out of the hospital a few days later and felt much better. She went back to work as a nurse and all was fine. Apparently, after receiving transfusions you are suppossed to go on blood thinners, but they never figured out where her internal bleed was, so they couldn't. About a month later, we both were going to the Dr.'s together. She was getting a brief checkup and I was needing more vicodin for my pain that no one knew why I was having. I was taking my 2 yr old twins so she could sit with them while it was my turn. I was at home getting the twins packed up so I could go pick her up. The phone rang and I could here my grandma was on the line, but I could barely here her because my mom's dogs were growling and barking in the back round. I was able to make out that my mom had passed out. I told my grandma to call 911 and I would be right there. I buckled up my half dressed twins and rushed over there. My mom lived 2 blocks over. We were extremely close and best friends. When I got there, the paramedics were somehow already there. My mom was on the floor in the kitchen and was alert and seemed fine except she was sweating profusely. She said she wasn't experiencing any pain and felt ok. I was sooo relieved. I had always had a huge fear of losing her, to the point that I had nightmares. I got a weyt washcloth and wiped her face off. Then I went in the other room to make some calls to find a sitter so I could meet her at the hospital. My twins LOVED their grandma and were hanging out with her. Then I started hearing screaming and the paramedics yelling at me to get my babies out of the room. I ran back into the room and my mom was seizing violently. I was so torn because I wanted to protect my children from seeing what was happening, but I didn't want to leave my mom's side. I actually can't remember what I did. I just remember all of a sudden being alone in the house with my twins and my terrified grandmother after they took her in the ambulance. I knew she was dead, but I went into a weird denial and trance. I was really good at panicing, but I knew I couldn't because of my little children and my very fragil grandmother. I was so calm it was spooky. I was even making jokes to get my grandma to relax. I called my husband and told him he needed to come home and take me down to the hospital. Then I calmly took my grandma's blood pressure, which was thru the roof, and then gave her her meds. I then packed up all her meds and loaded her and the twins up and took them back to my house. My girlfriend came and stayed with them while my husband took me to the hospital. While we were on our way, I told him she was going to be fine even though I knew she was dead. I just could not process it, so I pretended she wasn't. She was at the same hospital that she was a charge nurse at. I had already called her co-workers and asked them to sit with her until I could get there. I was still in such denial. When we got to the ER I asked to see my mom. They took us back in the ER, but instead of going into a room I noticed I was being lead into an office. I thought, ok, she's in surgery and they are going to explain it to me. I noticed a bunch of nurses coming up behind me and one in particular with a wheelchair headed right for me and as I wondered what the wheelchair was for I heard my mom's boss say, " Jill, we lost your mom. She didn't make it. " The wheelchair was for me. I heard someone screaming and I realized it was me. It was the most devastating day of my life. I completely shut down and wound up in the psychward a couple days later. The only reason I hung on was because of my twins. The day my mom died is the day I went from having some challanging but manageable heath issues to having full- blown, debilitating fibromyalgia. It was like a bomb of disease went off in me. My mom died of a PE. No past history, no symptoms. I don't fear death either, but I do fear what it will do to my children. I know we all have to let go of our parents at sometime. It must be horrible to have so many side effects from a med that is so crucial for you to be on. I can completely understand you questioning if it is worth it. If you do decide it is not worh it and go off of it, I strongly encourage you to have a heart-to-heart with your husband and kids. Make sure they understand why you can't do it anymore and let them know you will be ok one way or another and that you would rather live a better quality of life for perhaps a shorter amount of time, then to have a poor quality of life for a longer amount of time. I think this will help them tremendously if something should happen. But, I agree with what was said before. You are still here because you are a wonderful role-model and have so much to share and give to others. I hope I didn't overstep any boundaries or say anything to hurt you. Like I said, I wanted to share my story to give you another perspective to consider. Best Wishes, JIll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 I was just reading about your battle with blood clots with the possibility of PE. I don't think I read everything you said about it, but I did see you mention that you can feel a blood clot coming on. I just wanted to share my experience with PE. At first, I wasn't going to, but then I read the post about how you feel about death. So, I don't think this will scare you, just give you another perspective. Four years ago my mom wasn't feeling well. She had blood work done and they discovered she had an internal bleed and needed immediate blood transfusions. I can't remember the exact amount she received, but it was a lot. She got out of the hospital a few days later and felt much better. She went back to work as a nurse and all was fine. Apparently, after receiving transfusions you are suppossed to go on blood thinners, but they never figured out where her internal bleed was, so they couldn't. About a month later, we both were going to the Dr.'s together. She was getting a brief checkup and I was needing more vicodin for my pain that no one knew why I was having. I was taking my 2 yr old twins so she could sit with them while it was my turn. I was at home getting the twins packed up so I could go pick her up. The phone rang and I could here my grandma was on the line, but I could barely here her because my mom's dogs were growling and barking in the back round. I was able to make out that my mom had passed out. I told my grandma to call 911 and I would be right there. I buckled up my half dressed twins and rushed over there. My mom lived 2 blocks over. We were extremely close and best friends. When I got there, the paramedics were somehow already there. My mom was on the floor in the kitchen and was alert and seemed fine except she was sweating profusely. She said she wasn't experiencing any pain and felt ok. I was sooo relieved. I had always had a huge fear of losing her, to the point that I had nightmares. I got a weyt washcloth and wiped her face off. Then I went in the other room to make some calls to find a sitter so I could meet her at the hospital. My twins LOVED their grandma and were hanging out with her. Then I started hearing screaming and the paramedics yelling at me to get my babies out of the room. I ran back into the room and my mom was seizing violently. I was so torn because I wanted to protect my children from seeing what was happening, but I didn't want to leave my mom's side. I actually can't remember what I did. I just remember all of a sudden being alone in the house with my twins and my terrified grandmother after they took her in the ambulance. I knew she was dead, but I went into a weird denial and trance. I was really good at panicing, but I knew I couldn't because of my little children and my very fragil grandmother. I was so calm it was spooky. I was even making jokes to get my grandma to relax. I called my husband and told him he needed to come home and take me down to the hospital. Then I calmly took my grandma's blood pressure, which was thru the roof, and then gave her her meds. I then packed up all her meds and loaded her and the twins up and took them back to my house. My girlfriend came and stayed with them while my husband took me to the hospital. While we were on our way, I told him she was going to be fine even though I knew she was dead. I just could not process it, so I pretended she wasn't. She was at the same hospital that she was a charge nurse at. I had already called her co-workers and asked them to sit with her until I could get there. I was still in such denial. When we got to the ER I asked to see my mom. They took us back in the ER, but instead of going into a room I noticed I was being lead into an office. I thought, ok, she's in surgery and they are going to explain it to me. I noticed a bunch of nurses coming up behind me and one in particular with a wheelchair headed right for me and as I wondered what the wheelchair was for I heard my mom's boss say, " Jill, we lost your mom. She didn't make it. " The wheelchair was for me. I heard someone screaming and I realized it was me. It was the most devastating day of my life. I completely shut down and wound up in the psychward a couple days later. The only reason I hung on was because of my twins. The day my mom died is the day I went from having some challanging but manageable heath issues to having full- blown, debilitating fibromyalgia. It was like a bomb of disease went off in me. My mom died of a PE. No past history, no symptoms. I don't fear death either, but I do fear what it will do to my children. I know we all have to let go of our parents at sometime. It must be horrible to have so many side effects from a med that is so crucial for you to be on. I can completely understand you questioning if it is worth it. If you do decide it is not worh it and go off of it, I strongly encourage you to have a heart-to-heart with your husband and kids. Make sure they understand why you can't do it anymore and let them know you will be ok one way or another and that you would rather live a better quality of life for perhaps a shorter amount of time, then to have a poor quality of life for a longer amount of time. I think this will help them tremendously if something should happen. But, I agree with what was said before. You are still here because you are a wonderful role-model and have so much to share and give to others. I hope I didn't overstep any boundaries or say anything to hurt you. Like I said, I wanted to share my story to give you another perspective to consider. Best Wishes, JIll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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