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Jacquie,

In the spelling test area, I can only assume that chose not to perform

for the Dr. on the day of the testing.

Until they find a particular gene to dianose ADHD and ASD by, I think to

some extent, it's all guesswork rather than concrete knowledge of what our

kids have. It's more of a 'what slot do they fit best?' type of rationale.

Sorry it's not what you were after.

Sue

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Jacquie,

In the spelling test area, I can only assume that chose not to perform

for the Dr. on the day of the testing.

Until they find a particular gene to dianose ADHD and ASD by, I think to

some extent, it's all guesswork rather than concrete knowledge of what our

kids have. It's more of a 'what slot do they fit best?' type of rationale.

Sorry it's not what you were after.

Sue

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Jacquie,

In the spelling test area, I can only assume that chose not to perform

for the Dr. on the day of the testing.

Until they find a particular gene to dianose ADHD and ASD by, I think to

some extent, it's all guesswork rather than concrete knowledge of what our

kids have. It's more of a 'what slot do they fit best?' type of rationale.

Sorry it's not what you were after.

Sue

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GEEZ!!! OUCH!!! insurance doesn't cover it either, OMG!!

>

>

> > in the states, if the parents don't agree with the school testing

> > they have the right to obtain an outside agency to test, and the

> > school board has to pay for it. what about the asd? maybe i

didn't

> > read carefully enough, but was that mentioned? i don't know who

did

> > the testing, but a second opinion can't hurt

>

> Our schools don't test our kids. - well, they will when he is in

grade NINE.

>

> I paid $800 for this assessment.

>

> Jacquie

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GEEZ!!! OUCH!!! insurance doesn't cover it either, OMG!!

>

>

> > in the states, if the parents don't agree with the school testing

> > they have the right to obtain an outside agency to test, and the

> > school board has to pay for it. what about the asd? maybe i

didn't

> > read carefully enough, but was that mentioned? i don't know who

did

> > the testing, but a second opinion can't hurt

>

> Our schools don't test our kids. - well, they will when he is in

grade NINE.

>

> I paid $800 for this assessment.

>

> Jacquie

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Did they ever offer to redo the spelling part? I'm not sure if that's possible.

I know so little about tests like this. Is what this saying is that is

academically on level?

Ughh stupid things always confuse me sorry to ask dumb questions.

doubtful yet ambivelant

Got 's psychologist's report today.

Findings of assessments:

" Overall intelellectual scores are at the upper level of the normal range for

his age, falling at the sixty-ninth percentile. " Visual intelligence scored at

the 88th percentile, " 's score in the area of verbal processing is lower,

*although it nonetheless falls within normal limits for his age.* " Numerical

reasoning scored at the top of his age range. " I make particular notw of the on

e significantly low score among the verbal subtests. This measures social

comprehension; 's score is at only the 5th percentile. It is not uncommon

to find a relatively low score on this subtest among children at the high end of

the autism spectrum. "

Now, I buy all of this, until I get to the next bit. He says 's reading

is one grade level higher than he is; and then says this about spelling: " In

contrast to 's strong reading skills, he had great difficulty on the

spelling test. He was unable to spell his name and made a number of errors

spelling single letter sounds and blends. *his score is below the grade one

level* "

WRONG!!! Wrong, wrong, WRONG. Not only has he been able to spell his name

for, like, 3 years, but he gets a PERFECT mark on every single spelling test he

brings home from school!

So if the spelling assessment is SO WRONG, how can I possibly trust the rest

of the results?

Oral Language skills: receptive vocabulary and oral expression both fall

within normal range. " had considerably more difficulty on a test measuring

his ability to understand oral passages. His score falls at the 12th

percentile. "

memory: " strength is evident in visual retention. "

auditory distractibility: 13th percentile

Behavioural profile: one checklist indicates ADD. The Devereux - " two scores

were elevated. One is on the scale sensitive to attention deficit. The second

contains items that are likely to be elevated among children with ASD. The

latter elevation was not, however, extreme. "

Input he got from 's teacher: " Socially, Miss Broerse described as a

rather unique child in how he presents himself. He has poor eye contact and can

be very loud and awkward. "

Recommendations: " For , the history, observations at home, in the

classroom, and during testing, and the results of testing are consistent in

indicating a problem with attention. I concluded, therefore, that there was

sufficient basis for diagnosis of an attention deficit hyeractivity disorder. "

He goes on to suggest a pediatrician, books to read, etc.

I am dissatisfied with this. I expected something a lot more decisive.

<sigh>

Jacquie

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Did they ever offer to redo the spelling part? I'm not sure if that's possible.

I know so little about tests like this. Is what this saying is that is

academically on level?

Ughh stupid things always confuse me sorry to ask dumb questions.

doubtful yet ambivelant

Got 's psychologist's report today.

Findings of assessments:

" Overall intelellectual scores are at the upper level of the normal range for

his age, falling at the sixty-ninth percentile. " Visual intelligence scored at

the 88th percentile, " 's score in the area of verbal processing is lower,

*although it nonetheless falls within normal limits for his age.* " Numerical

reasoning scored at the top of his age range. " I make particular notw of the on

e significantly low score among the verbal subtests. This measures social

comprehension; 's score is at only the 5th percentile. It is not uncommon

to find a relatively low score on this subtest among children at the high end of

the autism spectrum. "

Now, I buy all of this, until I get to the next bit. He says 's reading

is one grade level higher than he is; and then says this about spelling: " In

contrast to 's strong reading skills, he had great difficulty on the

spelling test. He was unable to spell his name and made a number of errors

spelling single letter sounds and blends. *his score is below the grade one

level* "

WRONG!!! Wrong, wrong, WRONG. Not only has he been able to spell his name

for, like, 3 years, but he gets a PERFECT mark on every single spelling test he

brings home from school!

So if the spelling assessment is SO WRONG, how can I possibly trust the rest

of the results?

Oral Language skills: receptive vocabulary and oral expression both fall

within normal range. " had considerably more difficulty on a test measuring

his ability to understand oral passages. His score falls at the 12th

percentile. "

memory: " strength is evident in visual retention. "

auditory distractibility: 13th percentile

Behavioural profile: one checklist indicates ADD. The Devereux - " two scores

were elevated. One is on the scale sensitive to attention deficit. The second

contains items that are likely to be elevated among children with ASD. The

latter elevation was not, however, extreme. "

Input he got from 's teacher: " Socially, Miss Broerse described as a

rather unique child in how he presents himself. He has poor eye contact and can

be very loud and awkward. "

Recommendations: " For , the history, observations at home, in the

classroom, and during testing, and the results of testing are consistent in

indicating a problem with attention. I concluded, therefore, that there was

sufficient basis for diagnosis of an attention deficit hyeractivity disorder. "

He goes on to suggest a pediatrician, books to read, etc.

I am dissatisfied with this. I expected something a lot more decisive.

<sigh>

Jacquie

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In a message dated 1/21/03 12:40:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,

vhunnius@... writes:

> Like ADHD is a strong factor in his behaviour?

If this makes you feel any better the psyc that sees has also hinted

towards an adhd diagnois. I've pretty much stuffed that down her throat

though. Stay with me here... all the things that SPIKE when we are on a down

swing are dumping, hyperactive behavior, and sleeping problems. BUT when

has proper OT (2 or 3 times a week on top of what I do) these behaviors

all go away totally.

Is there any way you could have a sensory analysis done on ?

We are starting private OT and PT each one to one for an hour. I expect the

behaviors that I have been having problems with to decrease within the next

month. Someone remind me that I said this in March :)

Something to think about.

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In a message dated 1/21/03 12:40:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,

vhunnius@... writes:

> Like ADHD is a strong factor in his behaviour?

If this makes you feel any better the psyc that sees has also hinted

towards an adhd diagnois. I've pretty much stuffed that down her throat

though. Stay with me here... all the things that SPIKE when we are on a down

swing are dumping, hyperactive behavior, and sleeping problems. BUT when

has proper OT (2 or 3 times a week on top of what I do) these behaviors

all go away totally.

Is there any way you could have a sensory analysis done on ?

We are starting private OT and PT each one to one for an hour. I expect the

behaviors that I have been having problems with to decrease within the next

month. Someone remind me that I said this in March :)

Something to think about.

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In a message dated 1/21/03 12:40:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,

vhunnius@... writes:

> Like ADHD is a strong factor in his behaviour?

If this makes you feel any better the psyc that sees has also hinted

towards an adhd diagnois. I've pretty much stuffed that down her throat

though. Stay with me here... all the things that SPIKE when we are on a down

swing are dumping, hyperactive behavior, and sleeping problems. BUT when

has proper OT (2 or 3 times a week on top of what I do) these behaviors

all go away totally.

Is there any way you could have a sensory analysis done on ?

We are starting private OT and PT each one to one for an hour. I expect the

behaviors that I have been having problems with to decrease within the next

month. Someone remind me that I said this in March :)

Something to think about.

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>> " Overall intelellectual scores are at the upper level of the

normal range for his age, falling at the sixty-ninth percentile. "

Visual intelligence scored at the 88th percentile, " 's score in

the area of verbal processing is lower, *although it nonetheless

falls within normal limits for his age.* " Numerical reasoning scored

at the top of his age range. " I make particular notw of the on e

significantly low score among the verbal subtests. This measures

social comprehension; 's score is at only the 5th percentile. It

is not uncommon to find a relatively low score on this subtest among

children at the high end of the autism spectrum. " >

Well...he's a smart, autistic kid, right? But you knew that...

> Now, I buy all of this, until I get to the next bit. He says

's reading is one grade level higher than he is; and then says

this about spelling: " In contrast to 's strong reading skills,

he had great difficulty on the spelling test. He was unable to spell

his name and made a number of errors spelling single letter sounds

and blends. *his score is below the grade one level* "

>

> WRONG!!! Wrong, wrong, WRONG. Not only has he been able to spell

his name for, like, 3 years, but he gets a PERFECT mark on every

single spelling test he brings home from school! >>

Stress, maybe? Rebellion? I remember when took the WISC-II

(or so), he consistently said " pass " on ANY math problem, no matter

how simple. I said the the psych, " He can DO those " , and she

said, " Yeah, he probably can, but not under the stress of testing " .

> Oral Language skills: receptive vocabulary and oral expression

both fall within normal range. " had considerably more

difficulty on a test measuring his ability to understand oral

passages. His score falls at the 12th percentile. "

>

> memory: " strength is evident in visual retention. "

>

> auditory distractibility: 13th percentile

>

> Behavioural profile: one checklist indicates ADD. The Devereux -

" two scores were elevated. One is on the scale sensitive to

attention deficit. The second contains items that are likely to be

elevated among children with ASD. The latter elevation was not,

however, extreme. " >

Well, this all sounds like the you write about...

> Input he got from 's teacher: " Socially, Miss Broerse

described as a rather unique child in how he presents himself.

He has poor eye contact and can be very loud and awkward. " >

Still sounds accurate, from what little I know about him. :-)

> Recommendations: " For , the history, observations at home, in

the classroom, and during testing, and the results of testing are

consistent in indicating a problem with attention. I concluded,

therefore, that there was sufficient basis for diagnosis of an

attention deficit hyeractivity disorder. " He goes on to suggest a

pediatrician, books to read, etc.

>

> I am dissatisfied with this. I expected something a lot more

decisive. >

Sorry. I once paid $250 to hear a respected child neurologist

observe, " He certainly is a perplexing child! " Hmph.

Raena

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>> " Overall intelellectual scores are at the upper level of the

normal range for his age, falling at the sixty-ninth percentile. "

Visual intelligence scored at the 88th percentile, " 's score in

the area of verbal processing is lower, *although it nonetheless

falls within normal limits for his age.* " Numerical reasoning scored

at the top of his age range. " I make particular notw of the on e

significantly low score among the verbal subtests. This measures

social comprehension; 's score is at only the 5th percentile. It

is not uncommon to find a relatively low score on this subtest among

children at the high end of the autism spectrum. " >

Well...he's a smart, autistic kid, right? But you knew that...

> Now, I buy all of this, until I get to the next bit. He says

's reading is one grade level higher than he is; and then says

this about spelling: " In contrast to 's strong reading skills,

he had great difficulty on the spelling test. He was unable to spell

his name and made a number of errors spelling single letter sounds

and blends. *his score is below the grade one level* "

>

> WRONG!!! Wrong, wrong, WRONG. Not only has he been able to spell

his name for, like, 3 years, but he gets a PERFECT mark on every

single spelling test he brings home from school! >>

Stress, maybe? Rebellion? I remember when took the WISC-II

(or so), he consistently said " pass " on ANY math problem, no matter

how simple. I said the the psych, " He can DO those " , and she

said, " Yeah, he probably can, but not under the stress of testing " .

> Oral Language skills: receptive vocabulary and oral expression

both fall within normal range. " had considerably more

difficulty on a test measuring his ability to understand oral

passages. His score falls at the 12th percentile. "

>

> memory: " strength is evident in visual retention. "

>

> auditory distractibility: 13th percentile

>

> Behavioural profile: one checklist indicates ADD. The Devereux -

" two scores were elevated. One is on the scale sensitive to

attention deficit. The second contains items that are likely to be

elevated among children with ASD. The latter elevation was not,

however, extreme. " >

Well, this all sounds like the you write about...

> Input he got from 's teacher: " Socially, Miss Broerse

described as a rather unique child in how he presents himself.

He has poor eye contact and can be very loud and awkward. " >

Still sounds accurate, from what little I know about him. :-)

> Recommendations: " For , the history, observations at home, in

the classroom, and during testing, and the results of testing are

consistent in indicating a problem with attention. I concluded,

therefore, that there was sufficient basis for diagnosis of an

attention deficit hyeractivity disorder. " He goes on to suggest a

pediatrician, books to read, etc.

>

> I am dissatisfied with this. I expected something a lot more

decisive. >

Sorry. I once paid $250 to hear a respected child neurologist

observe, " He certainly is a perplexing child! " Hmph.

Raena

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>> " Overall intelellectual scores are at the upper level of the

normal range for his age, falling at the sixty-ninth percentile. "

Visual intelligence scored at the 88th percentile, " 's score in

the area of verbal processing is lower, *although it nonetheless

falls within normal limits for his age.* " Numerical reasoning scored

at the top of his age range. " I make particular notw of the on e

significantly low score among the verbal subtests. This measures

social comprehension; 's score is at only the 5th percentile. It

is not uncommon to find a relatively low score on this subtest among

children at the high end of the autism spectrum. " >

Well...he's a smart, autistic kid, right? But you knew that...

> Now, I buy all of this, until I get to the next bit. He says

's reading is one grade level higher than he is; and then says

this about spelling: " In contrast to 's strong reading skills,

he had great difficulty on the spelling test. He was unable to spell

his name and made a number of errors spelling single letter sounds

and blends. *his score is below the grade one level* "

>

> WRONG!!! Wrong, wrong, WRONG. Not only has he been able to spell

his name for, like, 3 years, but he gets a PERFECT mark on every

single spelling test he brings home from school! >>

Stress, maybe? Rebellion? I remember when took the WISC-II

(or so), he consistently said " pass " on ANY math problem, no matter

how simple. I said the the psych, " He can DO those " , and she

said, " Yeah, he probably can, but not under the stress of testing " .

> Oral Language skills: receptive vocabulary and oral expression

both fall within normal range. " had considerably more

difficulty on a test measuring his ability to understand oral

passages. His score falls at the 12th percentile. "

>

> memory: " strength is evident in visual retention. "

>

> auditory distractibility: 13th percentile

>

> Behavioural profile: one checklist indicates ADD. The Devereux -

" two scores were elevated. One is on the scale sensitive to

attention deficit. The second contains items that are likely to be

elevated among children with ASD. The latter elevation was not,

however, extreme. " >

Well, this all sounds like the you write about...

> Input he got from 's teacher: " Socially, Miss Broerse

described as a rather unique child in how he presents himself.

He has poor eye contact and can be very loud and awkward. " >

Still sounds accurate, from what little I know about him. :-)

> Recommendations: " For , the history, observations at home, in

the classroom, and during testing, and the results of testing are

consistent in indicating a problem with attention. I concluded,

therefore, that there was sufficient basis for diagnosis of an

attention deficit hyeractivity disorder. " He goes on to suggest a

pediatrician, books to read, etc.

>

> I am dissatisfied with this. I expected something a lot more

decisive. >

Sorry. I once paid $250 to hear a respected child neurologist

observe, " He certainly is a perplexing child! " Hmph.

Raena

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Got 's psychologist's report today.

Findings of assessments:

" Overall intelellectual scores are at the upper level of the normal range for

his age, falling at the sixty-ninth percentile. " Visual intelligence scored at

the 88th percentile, " 's score in the area of verbal processing is lower,

*although it nonetheless falls within normal limits for his age.* " Numerical

reasoning scored at the top of his age range. " I make particular notw of the on

e significantly low score among the verbal subtests. This measures social

comprehension; 's score is at only the 5th percentile. It is not uncommon

to find a relatively low score on this subtest among children at the high end of

the autism spectrum. "

Now, I buy all of this, until I get to the next bit. He says 's reading is

one grade level higher than he is; and then says this about spelling: " In

contrast to 's strong reading skills, he had great difficulty on the

spelling test. He was unable to spell his name and made a number of errors

spelling single letter sounds and blends. *his score is below the grade one

level* "

WRONG!!! Wrong, wrong, WRONG. Not only has he been able to spell his name for,

like, 3 years, but he gets a PERFECT mark on every single spelling test he

brings home from school!

So if the spelling assessment is SO WRONG, how can I possibly trust the rest of

the results?

Oral Language skills: receptive vocabulary and oral expression both fall within

normal range. " had considerably more difficulty on a test measuring his

ability to understand oral passages. His score falls at the 12th percentile. "

memory: " strength is evident in visual retention. "

auditory distractibility: 13th percentile

Behavioural profile: one checklist indicates ADD. The Devereux - " two scores

were elevated. One is on the scale sensitive to attention deficit. The second

contains items that are likely to be elevated among children with ASD. The

latter elevation was not, however, extreme. "

Input he got from 's teacher: " Socially, Miss Broerse described as a

rather unique child in how he presents himself. He has poor eye contact and can

be very loud and awkward. "

Recommendations: " For , the history, observations at home, in the

classroom, and during testing, and the results of testing are consistent in

indicating a problem with attention. I concluded, therefore, that there was

sufficient basis for diagnosis of an attention deficit hyeractivity disorder. "

He goes on to suggest a pediatrician, books to read, etc.

I am dissatisfied with this. I expected something a lot more decisive.

<sigh>

Jacquie

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> in the states, if the parents don't agree with the school testing

> they have the right to obtain an outside agency to test, and the

> school board has to pay for it. what about the asd? maybe i didn't

> read carefully enough, but was that mentioned? i don't know who did

> the testing, but a second opinion can't hurt

Our schools don't test our kids. - well, they will when he is in grade NINE.

I paid $800 for this assessment.

Jacquie

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> in the states, if the parents don't agree with the school testing

> they have the right to obtain an outside agency to test, and the

> school board has to pay for it. what about the asd? maybe i didn't

> read carefully enough, but was that mentioned? i don't know who did

> the testing, but a second opinion can't hurt

Our schools don't test our kids. - well, they will when he is in grade NINE.

I paid $800 for this assessment.

Jacquie

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> in the states, if the parents don't agree with the school testing

> they have the right to obtain an outside agency to test, and the

> school board has to pay for it. what about the asd? maybe i didn't

> read carefully enough, but was that mentioned? i don't know who did

> the testing, but a second opinion can't hurt

Our schools don't test our kids. - well, they will when he is in grade NINE.

I paid $800 for this assessment.

Jacquie

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" I make particular notw of the on e

significantly low score among the verbal subtests. This

measures social comprehension; 's score is at only the

5th percentile. It is not uncommon to find a relatively

low score on this subtest among children at the high end of

the autism spectrum. "

I bet this is the same one that Enrique scored in the 9th

percentile...

Now, I buy all of this, until I get to the next bit. He

says 's reading is one grade level higher than he is;

and then says this about spelling: " In contrast to 's

strong reading skills, he had great difficulty on the

spelling test. He was unable to spell his name and made a

number of errors spelling single letter sounds and blends.

*his score is below the grade one level* "

But what was up to during this section of the test?

Perhaps that is a more significant question. I mean,

spelling is a pretty darned objective thing. A word is

either spelled right or it is not with a few exceptions in

words that have a couple of " correct " spellings.

So if the spelling assessment is SO WRONG, how can I

possibly trust the rest of the results?

It depends on why he did so poorly on spelling...

I think if everything else rings true for you then you can

probably assume that just decided not to spell well

that day. Very bizarre, well, for . If it were Putter

I would expect it.

Recommendations: " For , the history, observations at

home, in the classroom, and during testing, and the results

of testing are consistent in indicating a problem with

attention. I concluded, therefore, that there was

sufficient basis for diagnosis of an attention deficit

hyeractivity disorder. " He goes on to suggest a

pediatrician, books to read, etc.

Does this psych specialize in autism? If not, well, I

don't expect much from anyone who doesn't have experience

in autism. This I think is our basic problem with Dr.

Kaye...

Salli

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" I make particular notw of the on e

significantly low score among the verbal subtests. This

measures social comprehension; 's score is at only the

5th percentile. It is not uncommon to find a relatively

low score on this subtest among children at the high end of

the autism spectrum. "

I bet this is the same one that Enrique scored in the 9th

percentile...

Now, I buy all of this, until I get to the next bit. He

says 's reading is one grade level higher than he is;

and then says this about spelling: " In contrast to 's

strong reading skills, he had great difficulty on the

spelling test. He was unable to spell his name and made a

number of errors spelling single letter sounds and blends.

*his score is below the grade one level* "

But what was up to during this section of the test?

Perhaps that is a more significant question. I mean,

spelling is a pretty darned objective thing. A word is

either spelled right or it is not with a few exceptions in

words that have a couple of " correct " spellings.

So if the spelling assessment is SO WRONG, how can I

possibly trust the rest of the results?

It depends on why he did so poorly on spelling...

I think if everything else rings true for you then you can

probably assume that just decided not to spell well

that day. Very bizarre, well, for . If it were Putter

I would expect it.

Recommendations: " For , the history, observations at

home, in the classroom, and during testing, and the results

of testing are consistent in indicating a problem with

attention. I concluded, therefore, that there was

sufficient basis for diagnosis of an attention deficit

hyeractivity disorder. " He goes on to suggest a

pediatrician, books to read, etc.

Does this psych specialize in autism? If not, well, I

don't expect much from anyone who doesn't have experience

in autism. This I think is our basic problem with Dr.

Kaye...

Salli

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" I make particular notw of the on e

significantly low score among the verbal subtests. This

measures social comprehension; 's score is at only the

5th percentile. It is not uncommon to find a relatively

low score on this subtest among children at the high end of

the autism spectrum. "

I bet this is the same one that Enrique scored in the 9th

percentile...

Now, I buy all of this, until I get to the next bit. He

says 's reading is one grade level higher than he is;

and then says this about spelling: " In contrast to 's

strong reading skills, he had great difficulty on the

spelling test. He was unable to spell his name and made a

number of errors spelling single letter sounds and blends.

*his score is below the grade one level* "

But what was up to during this section of the test?

Perhaps that is a more significant question. I mean,

spelling is a pretty darned objective thing. A word is

either spelled right or it is not with a few exceptions in

words that have a couple of " correct " spellings.

So if the spelling assessment is SO WRONG, how can I

possibly trust the rest of the results?

It depends on why he did so poorly on spelling...

I think if everything else rings true for you then you can

probably assume that just decided not to spell well

that day. Very bizarre, well, for . If it were Putter

I would expect it.

Recommendations: " For , the history, observations at

home, in the classroom, and during testing, and the results

of testing are consistent in indicating a problem with

attention. I concluded, therefore, that there was

sufficient basis for diagnosis of an attention deficit

hyeractivity disorder. " He goes on to suggest a

pediatrician, books to read, etc.

Does this psych specialize in autism? If not, well, I

don't expect much from anyone who doesn't have experience

in autism. This I think is our basic problem with Dr.

Kaye...

Salli

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>> Is there any way you could have a sensory analysis done on ? >

Jacquie...a place to start (you could do it and take your results to

the OT with questions/requests for ideas) is the Sensory Profile at:

http://www.apraxia-kids.org/topics/sensoryintegration.html

It's not the complete Dunn Profile (that is MASSIVE...takes over an

hour to fill out), but it is a good screen...gives you an idea of

which problems are the most significant for and how it is

impacting function...

Raena

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>> Is there any way you could have a sensory analysis done on ? >

Jacquie...a place to start (you could do it and take your results to

the OT with questions/requests for ideas) is the Sensory Profile at:

http://www.apraxia-kids.org/topics/sensoryintegration.html

It's not the complete Dunn Profile (that is MASSIVE...takes over an

hour to fill out), but it is a good screen...gives you an idea of

which problems are the most significant for and how it is

impacting function...

Raena

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>> Is there any way you could have a sensory analysis done on ? >

Jacquie...a place to start (you could do it and take your results to

the OT with questions/requests for ideas) is the Sensory Profile at:

http://www.apraxia-kids.org/topics/sensoryintegration.html

It's not the complete Dunn Profile (that is MASSIVE...takes over an

hour to fill out), but it is a good screen...gives you an idea of

which problems are the most significant for and how it is

impacting function...

Raena

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UGH. This sounds like a bunch of half told stuff. Why did he think couldnt

spell his name?

Jacquie H

doubtful yet ambivelant

Got 's psychologist's report today.

Findings of assessments:

" Overall intelellectual scores are at the upper level of the normal range for

his age, falling at the sixty-ninth percentile. " Visual intelligence scored at

the 88th percentile, " 's score in the area of verbal processing is lower,

*although it nonetheless falls within normal limits for his age.* " Numerical

reasoning scored at the top of his age range. " I make particular notw of the on

e significantly low score among the verbal subtests. This measures social

comprehension; 's score is at only the 5th percentile. It is not uncommon

to find a relatively low score on this subtest among children at the high end of

the autism spectrum. "

Now, I buy all of this, until I get to the next bit. He says 's reading

is one grade level higher than he is; and then says this about spelling: " In

contrast to 's strong reading skills, he had great difficulty on the

spelling test. He was unable to spell his name and made a number of errors

spelling single letter sounds and blends. *his score is below the grade one

level* "

WRONG!!! Wrong, wrong, WRONG. Not only has he been able to spell his name

for, like, 3 years, but he gets a PERFECT mark on every single spelling test he

brings home from school!

So if the spelling assessment is SO WRONG, how can I possibly trust the rest

of the results?

Oral Language skills: receptive vocabulary and oral expression both fall

within normal range. " had considerably more difficulty on a test measuring

his ability to understand oral passages. His score falls at the 12th

percentile. "

memory: " strength is evident in visual retention. "

auditory distractibility: 13th percentile

Behavioural profile: one checklist indicates ADD. The Devereux - " two scores

were elevated. One is on the scale sensitive to attention deficit. The second

contains items that are likely to be elevated among children with ASD. The

latter elevation was not, however, extreme. "

Input he got from 's teacher: " Socially, Miss Broerse described as a

rather unique child in how he presents himself. He has poor eye contact and can

be very loud and awkward. "

Recommendations: " For , the history, observations at home, in the

classroom, and during testing, and the results of testing are consistent in

indicating a problem with attention. I concluded, therefore, that there was

sufficient basis for diagnosis of an attention deficit hyeractivity disorder. "

He goes on to suggest a pediatrician, books to read, etc.

I am dissatisfied with this. I expected something a lot more decisive.

<sigh>

Jacquie

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UGH. This sounds like a bunch of half told stuff. Why did he think couldnt

spell his name?

Jacquie H

doubtful yet ambivelant

Got 's psychologist's report today.

Findings of assessments:

" Overall intelellectual scores are at the upper level of the normal range for

his age, falling at the sixty-ninth percentile. " Visual intelligence scored at

the 88th percentile, " 's score in the area of verbal processing is lower,

*although it nonetheless falls within normal limits for his age.* " Numerical

reasoning scored at the top of his age range. " I make particular notw of the on

e significantly low score among the verbal subtests. This measures social

comprehension; 's score is at only the 5th percentile. It is not uncommon

to find a relatively low score on this subtest among children at the high end of

the autism spectrum. "

Now, I buy all of this, until I get to the next bit. He says 's reading

is one grade level higher than he is; and then says this about spelling: " In

contrast to 's strong reading skills, he had great difficulty on the

spelling test. He was unable to spell his name and made a number of errors

spelling single letter sounds and blends. *his score is below the grade one

level* "

WRONG!!! Wrong, wrong, WRONG. Not only has he been able to spell his name

for, like, 3 years, but he gets a PERFECT mark on every single spelling test he

brings home from school!

So if the spelling assessment is SO WRONG, how can I possibly trust the rest

of the results?

Oral Language skills: receptive vocabulary and oral expression both fall

within normal range. " had considerably more difficulty on a test measuring

his ability to understand oral passages. His score falls at the 12th

percentile. "

memory: " strength is evident in visual retention. "

auditory distractibility: 13th percentile

Behavioural profile: one checklist indicates ADD. The Devereux - " two scores

were elevated. One is on the scale sensitive to attention deficit. The second

contains items that are likely to be elevated among children with ASD. The

latter elevation was not, however, extreme. "

Input he got from 's teacher: " Socially, Miss Broerse described as a

rather unique child in how he presents himself. He has poor eye contact and can

be very loud and awkward. "

Recommendations: " For , the history, observations at home, in the

classroom, and during testing, and the results of testing are consistent in

indicating a problem with attention. I concluded, therefore, that there was

sufficient basis for diagnosis of an attention deficit hyeractivity disorder. "

He goes on to suggest a pediatrician, books to read, etc.

I am dissatisfied with this. I expected something a lot more decisive.

<sigh>

Jacquie

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