Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 UGH. This sounds like a bunch of half told stuff. Why did he think couldnt spell his name? Jacquie H doubtful yet ambivelant Got 's psychologist's report today. Findings of assessments: " Overall intelellectual scores are at the upper level of the normal range for his age, falling at the sixty-ninth percentile. " Visual intelligence scored at the 88th percentile, " 's score in the area of verbal processing is lower, *although it nonetheless falls within normal limits for his age.* " Numerical reasoning scored at the top of his age range. " I make particular notw of the on e significantly low score among the verbal subtests. This measures social comprehension; 's score is at only the 5th percentile. It is not uncommon to find a relatively low score on this subtest among children at the high end of the autism spectrum. " Now, I buy all of this, until I get to the next bit. He says 's reading is one grade level higher than he is; and then says this about spelling: " In contrast to 's strong reading skills, he had great difficulty on the spelling test. He was unable to spell his name and made a number of errors spelling single letter sounds and blends. *his score is below the grade one level* " WRONG!!! Wrong, wrong, WRONG. Not only has he been able to spell his name for, like, 3 years, but he gets a PERFECT mark on every single spelling test he brings home from school! So if the spelling assessment is SO WRONG, how can I possibly trust the rest of the results? Oral Language skills: receptive vocabulary and oral expression both fall within normal range. " had considerably more difficulty on a test measuring his ability to understand oral passages. His score falls at the 12th percentile. " memory: " strength is evident in visual retention. " auditory distractibility: 13th percentile Behavioural profile: one checklist indicates ADD. The Devereux - " two scores were elevated. One is on the scale sensitive to attention deficit. The second contains items that are likely to be elevated among children with ASD. The latter elevation was not, however, extreme. " Input he got from 's teacher: " Socially, Miss Broerse described as a rather unique child in how he presents himself. He has poor eye contact and can be very loud and awkward. " Recommendations: " For , the history, observations at home, in the classroom, and during testing, and the results of testing are consistent in indicating a problem with attention. I concluded, therefore, that there was sufficient basis for diagnosis of an attention deficit hyeractivity disorder. " He goes on to suggest a pediatrician, books to read, etc. I am dissatisfied with this. I expected something a lot more decisive. <sigh> Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 > " two scores were elevated. One is on the scale sensitive to > attention deficit. The second contains items that are likely to be > elevated among children with ASD. The latter elevation was not, > however, extreme. " > > > Well, this all sounds like the you write about... Does that, Raena? Like ADHD is a strong factor in his behaviour? Stronger than, maybe, or exacerbating, the challenges already there due to the autism? I don't know; I can't tell -- he's the only kid I know! Please give me your opinion on this - I'd really like to hear it. Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 > " two scores were elevated. One is on the scale sensitive to > attention deficit. The second contains items that are likely to be > elevated among children with ASD. The latter elevation was not, > however, extreme. " > > > Well, this all sounds like the you write about... Does that, Raena? Like ADHD is a strong factor in his behaviour? Stronger than, maybe, or exacerbating, the challenges already there due to the autism? I don't know; I can't tell -- he's the only kid I know! Please give me your opinion on this - I'd really like to hear it. Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 > " two scores were elevated. One is on the scale sensitive to > attention deficit. The second contains items that are likely to be > elevated among children with ASD. The latter elevation was not, > however, extreme. " > > > Well, this all sounds like the you write about... Does that, Raena? Like ADHD is a strong factor in his behaviour? Stronger than, maybe, or exacerbating, the challenges already there due to the autism? I don't know; I can't tell -- he's the only kid I know! Please give me your opinion on this - I'd really like to hear it. Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 > It's not the complete Dunn Profile (that is MASSIVE...takes over an > hour to fill out), but it is a good screen...gives you an idea of > which problems are the most significant for and how it is > impacting function... The OT and I already completed the Dunn, right before school began. She never shared the results with me, and only has 1 hour consults with him biweekly during school hours. You don't get home support unless the problems are grossly interfering with functioning, and 's aren't considered to be. Otherwise, we'd have to pay out-of-pocket for OT, and there's no way in hell we can afford it. Unfortunately, I am so baffled by the science of OT that even knowing many of 's triggers I am at loose ends as to how to address the sensory issues. I bought 'The Out Of Sync' child - an utter waste of money, IMHO. It didn't tell me anything I don't already know, and it didn't tell me what to DO. I need to be told EXACTLY WHAT TO DO, and that's just not out there -- not that I've found. Jacquie -really frustrated with this whole sensory nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 > It's not the complete Dunn Profile (that is MASSIVE...takes over an > hour to fill out), but it is a good screen...gives you an idea of > which problems are the most significant for and how it is > impacting function... The OT and I already completed the Dunn, right before school began. She never shared the results with me, and only has 1 hour consults with him biweekly during school hours. You don't get home support unless the problems are grossly interfering with functioning, and 's aren't considered to be. Otherwise, we'd have to pay out-of-pocket for OT, and there's no way in hell we can afford it. Unfortunately, I am so baffled by the science of OT that even knowing many of 's triggers I am at loose ends as to how to address the sensory issues. I bought 'The Out Of Sync' child - an utter waste of money, IMHO. It didn't tell me anything I don't already know, and it didn't tell me what to DO. I need to be told EXACTLY WHAT TO DO, and that's just not out there -- not that I've found. Jacquie -really frustrated with this whole sensory nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 > It's not the complete Dunn Profile (that is MASSIVE...takes over an > hour to fill out), but it is a good screen...gives you an idea of > which problems are the most significant for and how it is > impacting function... The OT and I already completed the Dunn, right before school began. She never shared the results with me, and only has 1 hour consults with him biweekly during school hours. You don't get home support unless the problems are grossly interfering with functioning, and 's aren't considered to be. Otherwise, we'd have to pay out-of-pocket for OT, and there's no way in hell we can afford it. Unfortunately, I am so baffled by the science of OT that even knowing many of 's triggers I am at loose ends as to how to address the sensory issues. I bought 'The Out Of Sync' child - an utter waste of money, IMHO. It didn't tell me anything I don't already know, and it didn't tell me what to DO. I need to be told EXACTLY WHAT TO DO, and that's just not out there -- not that I've found. Jacquie -really frustrated with this whole sensory nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 > Did they ever offer to redo the spelling part? I'm not sure if that's possible. I know so little about tests like this. Is what this saying is that is academically on level? > Ughh stupid things always confuse me sorry to ask dumb questions. Bah. Never apologize for being confused! If I did that, I'd never say anything but " whoops, I'm sorry. yikes, I'm sorry. " Yeah, it's saying that is academically level all across the board. I can't comprehend that. At 3 years old, his intellectual tests were spiked and dipped all over the place. How, in three years, could he go from a math ability 4 years advanced and a verbal ability 2 years delayed to everything at the normal first grade level? It makes absolutely no sense to me. Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 > Did they ever offer to redo the spelling part? I'm not sure if that's possible. I know so little about tests like this. Is what this saying is that is academically on level? > Ughh stupid things always confuse me sorry to ask dumb questions. Bah. Never apologize for being confused! If I did that, I'd never say anything but " whoops, I'm sorry. yikes, I'm sorry. " Yeah, it's saying that is academically level all across the board. I can't comprehend that. At 3 years old, his intellectual tests were spiked and dipped all over the place. How, in three years, could he go from a math ability 4 years advanced and a verbal ability 2 years delayed to everything at the normal first grade level? It makes absolutely no sense to me. Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 > Did they ever offer to redo the spelling part? I'm not sure if that's possible. I know so little about tests like this. Is what this saying is that is academically on level? > Ughh stupid things always confuse me sorry to ask dumb questions. Bah. Never apologize for being confused! If I did that, I'd never say anything but " whoops, I'm sorry. yikes, I'm sorry. " Yeah, it's saying that is academically level all across the board. I can't comprehend that. At 3 years old, his intellectual tests were spiked and dipped all over the place. How, in three years, could he go from a math ability 4 years advanced and a verbal ability 2 years delayed to everything at the normal first grade level? It makes absolutely no sense to me. Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 > Does this psych specialize in autism? If not, well, I > don't expect much from anyone who doesn't have experience > in autism. This I think is our basic problem with Dr. > Kaye... Yeah. This guy admitted his experience with asd is limited, and gave me the name of a ped in a nearby city who concentrates specifically on autism and ADHD. I have to get the referral from my family doc; I'll be seeing her at the end of the month. Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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