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Hi ,I know this is easier said than done, but please try to relax. I know the symptoms are scary now but you WILL get through this. Your body is working well to detox and that's the reason for all these crazy symptoms.OK, so here's the condensed protocol from Andy Cutler's book:

Wait at least 4 days after amalgam removal to begin.

Start low and go slow with dosage (VERY important...people who try to move too fast and take greater dosages often harm themselves). Most people on the frequent dose chelation forum begin with 12.5 mg of DMSA and take it every four hours including waking up at night to take it. My capusles are 100 mg so I break it open and divide the powder on a plate into 8 equal piles with a knife or razor blade. Then I dip my finger in one dose and put it all in my mouth. Some people buy pill filler machines to do this. Most do it the way I am. If your capsule dosage is 50 mg., you'll separate it into 4.

Continue taking the DMSA for 3 days and then do 3 days off or more, depending on what your body needs. This equals one round. You will continue rounds for several months depending on how well your body excretes the mercury and how well you tolerate DMSA.

If you seem to tolerate going 4 days, do so, but take as many days off as you were on. You can work your way up as long as you feel comfortable. Some people can go 9 days, some can only go 3. Do what you need to do. I personally have done best by keeping the dosage low and not pushing myself to stay on round if I feel miserable. The one time I increased the dosage I had serious side effects.

Do NOT miss a dosage. I set my phone alarm for every 4 hours. If you miss a dosage by more than 1 hour, you need to stop and go off the round for as long as you were on.

DMSA can cause yeast growth for some. It does for me and I can tell when my symptoms are getting to the point where I need to stop the DMSA. Taking GSE has been helpful for me in controlling the yeast.

Be sure to take a fiber supplement...very important so that you excrete the mercury out of the bowels quickly in order to avoid redistribution. I take Garden of Life Super Seed. I also do colonics after I finish a round.

DMSA chelates good minerals as well so make sure you are taking a good mineral supplement. Patty said there is one listed under healing products in the Files or Links.

DMSA carries mercury out of the body but not out of the brain. You want to make sure your body burden of mercury is low and that's why you do DMSA before ALA. If you introduce ALA too soon you can cause redistribution into the brain.

Three months after almalgam removal you can introduce ALA with DMSA. I haven't done this yet but plan to this weekend. I still need to read up on it and I'll let you know.

Cutler's book is called Amalgam Illness and it is very comprehensive but also pretty technical. There is so much more to the protocol as far as supplements and tests and dealing with yeast and multiple chemical sensitivities, as well as changing the dosing schedule based on your particular side effects...too complex for me to describe. The frequent dose chelation forum has been extremely helpful and I highly recommend you joining because you will learn far more than I can tell you (although still feel free to as me anything!).

To join the forum, go to www. Click on Groups. Search Frequent Dose Chelation and a picture of his yellow book will come up. Click on that and you can join.

, you're on the right track! Getting rid of this mercury will help get rid of the candida and you can have your health back once and for all! Love, PH

, shellyjo1021@... wrote:>> Ph,> I am really bad off...I am not sleeping ..Tell me how to do it step by step > please.> Your the only one that seems to be detailed in helping with this and your all> I got. I ordered 3 bottles of DMSA and nutrients for chelating. How long > before you> started feeling better? Sorry for all the questions. Hopefully it comes with > instructons.> I ordered it what Patty said ...5 rounds at 4 days is how long in time frame?> I need to get my fillings out first but still send me instructions so I can > print it and I will> start it as soon as fillings are out. I cannot live like this no more.> Love > > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:36:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > perfecthealth68@... writes:> > > > > ,> From what Andy Cutler suggests, it can take one to three years to > chelate almost all the mercury. That is of course based on severity > of symptoms. However, I've spoken with people on the chelation forum > who feel much better before that. According to my symptoms, it > should take me 3 years. But, I've only completed 5 rounds at 4 days > each and I am feeling much better as far as brain fog and blurriness. > Love, PH> > >> Ph,> I am really bad off...I am not sleeping ..Tell me how to do it step by step > please.> Your the only one that seems to be detailed in helping with this and your all> I got. I ordered 3 bottles of DMSA and nutrients for chelating. How long > before you> started feeling better? Sorry for all the questions. Hopefully it comes with > instructons.> I ordered it what Patty said ...5 rounds at 4 days is how long in time frame?> I need to get my fillings out first but still send me instructions so I can > print it and I will> start it as soon as fillings are out. I cannot live like this no more.> Love > > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:36:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > perfecthealth68@... writes:> > > > > ,> From what Andy Cutler suggests, it can take one to three years to > chelate almost all the mercury. That is of course based on severity > of symptoms. However, I've spoken with people on the chelation forum > who feel much better before that. According to my symptoms, it > should take me 3 years. But, I've only completed 5 rounds at 4 days > each and I am feeling much better as far as brain fog and blurriness. > Love, PH> > --- In _ @SalineSupporSal_ (mailto: ) > , shellyjo1021@, shel> >> > Wow girls> > I wished I would have had a proper dental amagram removal....I have > just > > about done everything> > wrong. I knew I was worse after dentist. > > Thanks Patty for the site to order the DMSA because my dentist is > full of > > bull.And so was that> > chelation of EDTA they gave me which your not suppose to have when > you have > > mercury fillings> > either. I am just trying to find out why the brain fog is so bad > and the > > nervous system.> > Sorry girls i didn't mean to make any one worry so much but I know > if I was > > high in mercury> > back then I know I am higher now because of my dentist of improper > removal.> > No wonder why I am not getting better....I have got to get the rest > of my > > fillings out and> > then detox that mercury.> > does anyone know( I think PH can answer this or anyone else whos > been thru > > this) How long> > does it normally take to detox mercury ..I read you have to take it > slow. At > > least I know> > what I am fighting now with the brain fog.> > Thanks everyone this has put me at ease along with the capsulectomy.> > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:02:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > saxony01@ writes:> > > > > > > > > > > > Lea,> > > > Surely someone has checked your x-rays by now! . . . > Unbelievable! . . . > > > > Does it normally take this long to get a diagnostician to check > them?> > > > I know you're ready for that leg to get well!> > > > I had a great massage this evening! . . . I'm ready to go now!> > > > Rogene> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, > Money & > > Finance. (_http://money.http://moneyhttp://money.<WBhttp://mo_ > (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) )> >> > > > > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)>

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Hi ,Yes, you can do coffee enemas while chelating. Patty said she did. I know she also used a colema board so she could do colonics at home but I don't know if she did those on round or off.

GSE stands for grapefruit seed extract. It is a natrual antifungal. This is the brand I use although you could probably use whatever is at your healthfood store (if you have one). http://www.vitacost.com/NutriBiotic-GSE-Liquid-Concentrate-Grapefruit-Seed-Extract

As far as a mineral supplement during chelation I take what my doc gave me and I can't find it online. Patty recommended this from the Links section

http://www.druckerlabs.com/intramax.html

No, DMSA does not chelate from the brain. ALA does. I can't explain it but after 5 rounds my brain fog has diminished significantly...still have occasional moments but none of the drunk, foggy, out- of- it- type feeling. My brain still doesn't feel right, but all I know is I'm improving. All along though I've been doing other therapies and I'm sure they helped as well. No one knows what makes the brain fog appear or disappear but it does and it will for you too. Just try to be patient.

One thing that Cutler's book mentions is that garlic and other sulfur foods can redistribute mercury causing bad side effects for some. Some can tolerate it and others can't. Maybe some of your reaction could be from that. Chelating helps in that eventually there will be very few foods we react to once the mercury is out and our guts healed.

Love, PH

>> Ph,> I tried joining the group but it wont let me it says its bouncing so I cant > look back > at anything of all the protcols...This is why it has taken me so long to get > better.> Thank you so much for this know this took time to write out for me and I > really really> appreciate it. I printed it out to follow it step by step.> > You said you do colonics after your round of DMSA I dont have that around > here can I > use coffee enemas will that work just the same.> > What is GSE that you use in controlling the yeast?> > What is a good supplement to take while chelating and do you take this on > and off too or > just keep taking it to build up your minerals?> > You mean to tell me it doesn't take mercury out of the brain than how does > the> brain fog go away? Can we get brain cancer from this!!!!> Love > > > In a message dated 3/6/2008 10:33:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > perfecthealth68@... writes:> > > > > Hi ,> I know this is easier said than done, but please try to relax. I know the > symptoms are scary now but you WILL get through this. Your body is working > well to detox and that's the reason for all these crazy symptoms.> OK, so here's the condensed protocol from Andy Cutler's book: > 1. Wait at least 4 days after amalgam removal to begin. > 2. Start low and go slow with dosage (VERY important...Start low and go > slow with dosage (VERY important...<WBR>people who try to move Most people > on the frequent dose chelation forum begin with 12.5 mg of DMSA and take it > every four hours including waking up at night to take it. My capusles are > 100 mg so I break it open and divide the powder on a plate into 8 equal piles > with a knife or razor blade. Then I dip my finger in one dose and put it all > in my mouth. Some people buy pill filler machines to do this. Most do it > the way I am. If your capsule dosage is 50 mg., you'll separate it into 4. > 3. Continue taking the DMSA for 3 days and then do 3 days off or more, > depending on what your body needs. This equals one round. You will continue > rounds for several months depending on how well your body excretes the > mercury and how well you tolerate DMSA. > 4. If you seem to tolerate going 4 days, do so, but take as many days > off as you were on. You can work your way up as long as you feel comfortable. > Some people can go 9 days, some can only go 3. Do what you need to do. I > personally have done best by keeping the dosage low and not pushing myself to > stay on round if I feel miserable. The one time I increased the dosage I > had serious side effects. > 5. Do NOT miss a dosage. I set my phone alarm for every 4 hours. If > you miss a dosage by more than 1 hour, you need to stop and go off the round > for as long as you were on. > 6. DMSA can cause yeast growth for some. It does for me and I can tell > when my symptoms are getting to the point where I need to stop the DMSA. > Taking GSE has been helpful for me in controlling the yeast. > 7. Be sure to take a fiber supplement..Be sure to take a fiber > supplement..<WBR>.very important so that you excrete the mercury out of the bowels > quickl I take Garden of Life Super Seed. I also do colonics after I finish a > round. > 8. DMSA chelates good minerals as well so make sure you are taking a > good mineral supplement. Patty said there is one listed under healing products > in the Files or Links. > 9. DMSA carries mercury out of the body but not out of the brain. You > want to make sure your body burden of mercury is low and that's why you do > DMSA before ALA. If you introduce ALA too soon you can cause redistribution > into the brain. > 10. Three months after almalgam removal you can introduce ALA with DMSA. > I haven't done this yet but plan to this weekend. I still need to read up > on it and I'll let you know. > 11. Cutler's book is called Amalgam Illness and it is very > comprehensive but also pretty technical. There is so much more to the protocol as > far as supplements and tests and dealing with yeast and multiple chemical > sensitivities, as well as changing the dosing schedule based on your particular > side effects...too complex for me to describe. The frequent dose chelation > forum has been extremely helpful and I highly recommend you joining because > you will learn far more than I can tell you (although still feel free to as me > anything!). > 12. To join the forum, go to _www._ (http://www./) > Click on Groups. Search Frequent Dose Chelation and a picture of his yellow > book will come up. Click on that and you can join.> , you're on the right track! Getting rid of this mercury will help > get rid of the candida and you can have your health back once and for all! > Love, PH > 1. _ @SalineSupporSal_ > (mailto: ) , shellyjo1021@, sh> >> > Ph,> > I am really bad off...I am not sleeping ..Tell me how to do it step by > step > > please.> > Your the only one that seems to be detailed in helping with this and your > all> > I got. I ordered 3 bottles of DMSA and nutrients for chelating. How long > > before you> > started feeling better? Sorry for all the questions. Hopefully it comes > with > > instructons.> > I ordered it what Patty said ...5 rounds at 4 days is how long in time > frame?> > I need to get my fillings out first but still send me instructions so I > can > > print it and I will> > start it as soon as fillings are out. I cannot live like this no more.> > Love > > > > > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:36:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > perfecthealth68@ perf> > > > > > > > > > ,> > From what Andy Cutler suggests, it can take one to three years to > > chelate almost all the mercury. That is of course based on severity > > of symptoms. However, I've spoken with people on the chelation forum > > who feel much better before that. According to my symptoms, it > > should take me 3 years. But, I've only completed 5 rounds at 4 days > > each and I am feeling much better as far as brain fog and blurriness. > > Love, PH> > > > --- In __ @_ @_ > (mailto:_ @SalineSupporSal) _ (_mailto:SalineSuppormailto:SalineSmai_ > (mailto: ) ) > > , shellyjo1021@ shel> > >> > > Wow girls> > > I wished I would have had a proper dental amagram removal....I have > > just > > > about done everything> > > wrong. I knew I was worse after dentist. > > > Thanks Patty for the site to order the DMSA because my dentist is > > full of > > > bull.And so was that> > > chelation of EDTA they gave me which your not suppose to have when > > you have > > > mercury fillings> > > either. I am just trying to find out why the brain fog is so bad > > and the > > > nervous system.> > > Sorry girls i didn't mean to make any one worry so much but I know > > if I was > > > high in mercury> > > back then I know I am higher now because of my dentist of improper > > removal.> > > No wonder why I am not getting better....I have got to get the rest > > of my > > > fillings out and> > > then detox that mercury.> > > does anyone know( I think PH can answer this or anyone else whos > > been thru > > > this) How long> > > does it normally take to detox mercury ..I read you have to take it > > slow. At > > > least I know> > > what I am fighting now with the brain fog.> > > Thanks everyone this has put me at ease along with the capsulectomy.> > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:02:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > > saxony01@ writes:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lea,> > > > > > Surely someone has checked your x-rays by now! . . . > > Unbelievable! . . . > > > > > > Does it normally take this long to get a diagnostician to check > > them?> > > > > > I know you're ready for that leg to get well!> > > > > > I had a great massage this evening! . . . I'm ready to go now!> > > > > > Rogene> > > > > & g t; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, > > Money & > > > Finance. (_http://money. Finance. Finance.<WBhttp://mo_ > > (_http://money.http://moneyhttp://money.<WBhttp://mo_ > (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ) )> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and ad & > > Finance. (_http://money.http://moneyhttp://money.<WBhttp://mo_ > (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) )> >> > --- In @ In--- In Salin--- In Sal> >> > Ph,> > I am really bad off...I am not sleeping ..Tell me how to do it step by > step > > please.> > Your the only one that seems to be detailed in helping with this and your > all> > I got. I ordered 3 bottles of DMSA and nutrients for chelating. How long > > before you> > started feeling better? Sorry for all the questions. Hopefully it comes > with > > instructons.> > I ordered it what Patty said ...5 rounds at 4 days is how long in time > frame?> > I need to get my fillings out first but still send me instructions so I > can > > print it and I will> > start it as soon as fillings are out. I cannot live like this no more.> > Love > > > > > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:36:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > perfecthealth68@ perf> > > > > > > > > > ,> > From what Andy Cutler suggests, it can take one to three years to > > chelate almost all the mercury. That is of course based on severity > > of symptoms. However, I've spoken with people on the chelation fo rum > > who feel much better before that. According to my symptoms, it > > should take me 3 years. But, I've only completed 5 rounds at 4 days > > each and I am feeling much better as far as brain fog and blurriness. > > Love, PH> > > > --- In _ @ --- In _ @<WBR>SalineSu --- In _ --- > > , shellyjo1021@ , > > >> > > Wow girls> > > I wished I would have had a proper dental amagram removal....I have > > just > > > about done everything> > > wrong. I knew I was worse after dentist. > > > Thanks Patty for the site to order the DMSA because my dentist is > > full of > > > bull.And so was that> > > chelation of EDTA they gave me which your not suppose to have when > > you have > > > mercury fillings> > > either. I am just trying to find out why the brain fog is so bad > > and the > > > nervous system.> > > Sorry girls i didn't mean to make any one worry so much but I know > > if I was > > > high in mercury> > > back then I know I am higher now because of my dentist of improper > > removal.> > > No wonder why I am not getting better....I have got to get the rest > > of my > > > fillings out and> > > then detox that mercury.> > > does anyone know( I think PH can answer this or anyone else whos > > been thru > > > this) How long> > > does it normally take to detox mercury ..I read you have to take it > > slow. At > > > least I know> > > what I am fighting now with the brain fog.> > > Thanks everyone this has put me at ease along with the capsulectomy.> > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:02:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > > saxony01@ writes:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lea,> > > > > > Surely someone has checked your x-rays by now! . . . > > Unbelievable! . . . > > > > > > Does it normally take this long to get a diagnostician to check > > them?> > > > > > I know you're ready for that leg to get well!> > > > > > I had a great massage this evening! . . . I'm ready to go now!> > > > > > Rogene> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, > > Money & > > > Finance. (_http://money. Finance. Finance.<WBhttp://mo_ > > (http://money. (http (http://m 00000001) )> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice > o & > > Finance. (http://money. Finance. Finance. Finance. > >> > > > > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)>

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No, I don't think we can get brain cancer from this. I haven't come

across anyone who's had brain cancer from mercury. The way I look at

it is I plan to chelate, detox and build up my immune system like

crazy until I am stronger and healthier in mind, body and spirit than

I was before implants!! I'm not settling at all, no ifs ands or

buts. Just keep plugging along and you'll achieve the health you've

missed out on for far too long. God is with you all the way. Love,

PH

> >

> > Ph,

> > I tried joining the group but it wont let me it says its bouncing

so I

> cant

> > look back

> > at anything of all the protcols...This is why it has taken me so

long

> to get

> > better.

> > Thank you so much for this know this took time to write out for

me and

> I

> > really really

> > appreciate it. I printed it out to follow it step by step.

> >

> > You said you do colonics after your round of DMSA I dont have that

> around

> > here can I

> > use coffee enemas will that work just the same.

> >

> > What is GSE that you use in controlling the yeast?

> >

> > What is a good supplement to take while chelating and do you take

this

> on

> > and off too or

> > just keep taking it to build up your minerals?

> >

> > You mean to tell me it doesn't take mercury out of the brain than

how

> does

> > the

> > brain fog go away? Can we get brain cancer from this!!!!

> > Love

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 3/6/2008 10:33:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> > perfecthealth68@ writes:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi ,

> > I know this is easier said than done, but please try to relax. I

know

> the

> > symptoms are scary now but you WILL get through this. Your body is

> working

> > well to detox and that's the reason for all these crazy symptoms.

> > OK, so here's the condensed protocol from Andy Cutler's book:

> > 1. Wait at least 4 days after amalgam removal to begin.

> > 2. Start low and go slow with dosage (VERY important...Start low

and

> go

> > slow with dosage (VERY important...<WBR>people who try to move

Most

> people

> > on the frequent dose chelation forum begin with 12.5 mg of DMSA

and

> take it

> > every four hours including waking up at night to take it. My

capusles

> are

> > 100 mg so I break it open and divide the powder on a plate into 8

> equal piles

> > with a knife or razor blade. Then I dip my finger in one dose and

put

> it all

> > in my mouth. Some people buy pill filler machines to do this.

Most do

> it

> > the way I am. If your capsule dosage is 50 mg., you'll separate it

> into 4.

> > 3. Continue taking the DMSA for 3 days and then do 3 days off or

more,

> > depending on what your body needs. This equals one round. You will

> continue

> > rounds for several months depending on how well your body

excretes the

> > mercury and how well you tolerate DMSA.

> > 4. If you seem to tolerate going 4 days, do so, but take as many

days

> > off as you were on. You can work your way up as long as you feel

> comfortable.

> > Some people can go 9 days, some can only go 3. Do what you need

to do.

> I

> > personally have done best by keeping the dosage low and not

pushing

> myself to

> > stay on round if I feel miserable. The one time I increased the

dosage

> I

> > had serious side effects.

> > 5. Do NOT miss a dosage. I set my phone alarm for every 4 hours.

If

> > you miss a dosage by more than 1 hour, you need to stop and go

off the

> round

> > for as long as you were on.

> > 6. DMSA can cause yeast growth for some. It does for me and I can

tell

> > when my symptoms are getting to the point where I need to stop the

> DMSA.

> > Taking GSE has been helpful for me in controlling the yeast.

> > 7. Be sure to take a fiber supplement..Be sure to take a fiber

> > supplement..<WBR>.very important so that you excrete the mercury

out

> of the bowels

> > quickl I take Garden of Life Super Seed. I also do colonics after

I

> finish a

> > round.

> > 8. DMSA chelates good minerals as well so make sure you are

taking a

> > good mineral supplement. Patty said there is one listed under

healing

> products

> > in the Files or Links.

> > 9. DMSA carries mercury out of the body but not out of the brain.

You

> > want to make sure your body burden of mercury is low and that's

why

> you do

> > DMSA before ALA. If you introduce ALA too soon you can cause

> redistribution

> > into the brain.

> > 10. Three months after almalgam removal you can introduce ALA with

> DMSA.

> > I haven't done this yet but plan to this weekend. I still need to

read

> up

> > on it and I'll let you know.

> > 11. Cutler's book is called Amalgam Illness and it is very

> > comprehensive but also pretty technical. There is so much more to

the

> protocol as

> > far as supplements and tests and dealing with yeast and multiple

> chemical

> > sensitivities, as well as changing the dosing schedule based on

your

> particular

> > side effects...too complex for me to describe. The frequent dose

> chelation

> > forum has been extremely helpful and I highly recommend you

joining

> because

> > you will learn far more than I can tell you (although still feel

free

> to as me

> > anything!).

> > 12. To join the forum, go to _www._

(http://www./)

> > Click on Groups. Search Frequent Dose Chelation and a picture of

his

> yellow

> > book will come up. Click on that and you can join.

> > , you're on the right track! Getting rid of this mercury

will

> help

> > get rid of the candida and you can have your health back once and

for

> all!

> > Love, PH

> > 1. _ @SalineSupporSal_

> > (mailto: ) , shellyjo1021@, sh

> > >

> > > Ph,

> > > I am really bad off...I am not sleeping ..Tell me how to do it

step

> by

> > step

> > > please.

> > > Your the only one that seems to be detailed in helping with

this and

> your

> > all

> > > I got. I ordered 3 bottles of DMSA and nutrients for chelating.

How

> long

> > > before you

> > > started feeling better? Sorry for all the questions. Hopefully

it

> comes

> > with

> > > instructons.

> > > I ordered it what Patty said ...5 rounds at 4 days is how long

in

> time

> > frame?

> > > I need to get my fillings out first but still send me

instructions

> so I

> > can

> > > print it and I will

> > > start it as soon as fillings are out. I cannot live like this no

> more.

> > > Love

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:36:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> > > perfecthealth68@ perf

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ,

> > > From what Andy Cutler suggests, it can take one to three years

to

> > > chelate almost all the mercury. That is of course based on

severity

> > > of symptoms. However, I've spoken with people on the chelation

forum

> > > who feel much better before that. According to my symptoms, it

> > > should take me 3 years. But, I've only completed 5 rounds at 4

days

> > > each and I am feeling much better as far as brain fog and

> blurriness.

> > > Love, PH

> > >

> > > --- In __ @_ @_

> > (mailto:_ @SalineSupporSal) _

> (_mailto:SalineSuppormailto:SalineSmai_

> > (mailto: ) )

> > > , shellyjo1021@ shel

> > > >

> > > > Wow girls

> > > > I wished I would have had a proper dental amagram removal....I

> have

> > > just

> > > > about done everything

> > > > wrong. I knew I was worse after dentist.

> > > > Thanks Patty for the site to order the DMSA because my

dentist is

> > > full of

> > > > bull.And so was that

> > > > chelation of EDTA they gave me which your not suppose to have

when

> > > you have

> > > > mercury fillings

> > > > either. I am just trying to find out why the brain fog is so

bad

> > > and the

> > > > nervous system.

> > > > Sorry girls i didn't mean to make any one worry so much but I

know

> > > if I was

> > > > high in mercury

> > > > back then I know I am higher now because of my dentist of

improper

> > > removal.

> > > > No wonder why I am not getting better....I have got to get the

> rest

> > > of my

> > > > fillings out and

> > > > then detox that mercury.

> > > > does anyone know( I think PH can answer this or anyone else

whos

> > > been thru

> > > > this) How long

> > > > does it normally take to detox mercury ..I read you have to

take

> it

> > > slow. At

> > > > least I know

> > > > what I am fighting now with the brain fog.

> > > > Thanks everyone this has put me at ease along with the

> capsulectomy.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:02:37 P.M. Eastern Standard

Time,

> > > > saxony01@ writes:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Lea,

> > > >

> > > > Surely someone has checked your x-rays by now! . . .

> > > Unbelievable! . . .

> > > >

> > > > Does it normally take this long to get a diagnostician to

check

> > > them?

> > > >

> > > > I know you're ready for that leg to get well!

> > > >

> > > > I had a great massage this evening! . . . I'm ready to go now!

> > > >

> > > > Rogene

> > > >

> > > & g t;

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ************ ************<WBR>**It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms,

and

> ad &

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> > >

> >

> > --- In @ In--- In Salin--- In Sal

> > >

> > > Ph,

> > > I am really bad off...I am not sleeping ..Tell me how to do it

step

> by

> > step

> > > please.

> > > Your the only one that seems to be detailed in helping with

this and

> your

> > all

> > > I got. I ordered 3 bottles of DMSA and nutrients for chelating.

How

> long

> > > before you

> > > started feeling better? Sorry for all the questions. Hopefully

it

> comes

> > with

> > > instructons.

> > > I ordered it what Patty said ...5 rounds at 4 days is how long

in

> time

> > frame?

> > > I need to get my fillings out first but still send me

instructions

> so I

> > can

> > > print it and I will

> > > start it as soon as fillings are out. I cannot live like this no

> more.

> > > Love

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:36:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> > > perfecthealth68@ perf

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ,

> > > From what Andy Cutler suggests, it can take one to three years

to

> > > chelate almost all the mercury. That is of course based on

severity

> > > of symptoms. However, I've spoken with people on the chelation

fo

> rum

> > > who feel much better before that. According to my symptoms, it

> > > should take me 3 years. But, I've only completed 5 rounds at 4

days

> > > each and I am feeling much better as far as brain fog and

> blurriness.

> > > Love, PH

> > >

> > > --- In _ @ --- In _ @<WBR>SalineSu ---

In _

> ---

> > > , shellyjo1021@ ,

> > > >

> > > > Wow girls

> > > > I wished I would have had a proper dental amagram removal....I

> have

> > > just

> > > > about done everything

> > > > wrong. I knew I was worse after dentist.

> > > > Thanks Patty for the site to order the DMSA because my

dentist is

> > > full of

> > > > bull.And so was that

> > > > chelation of EDTA they gave me which your not suppose to have

when

> > > you have

> > > > mercury fillings

> > > > either. I am just trying to find out why the brain fog is so

bad

> > > and the

> > > > nervous system.

> > > > Sorry girls i didn't mean to make any one worry so much but I

know

> > > if I was

> > > > high in mercury

> > > > back then I know I am higher now because of my dentist of

improper

> > > removal.

> > > > No wonder why I am not getting better....I have got to get the

> rest

> > > of my

> > > > fillings out and

> > > > then detox that mercury.

> > > > does anyone know( I think PH can answer this or anyone else

whos

> > > been thru

> > > > this) How long

> > > > does it normally take to detox mercury ..I read you have to

take

> it

> > > slow. At

> > > > least I know

> > > > what I am fighting now with the brain fog.

> > > > Thanks everyone this has put me at ease along with the

> capsulectomy.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:02:37 P.M. Eastern Standard

Time,

> > > > saxony01@ writes:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Lea,

> > > >

> > > > Surely someone has checked your x-rays by now! . . .

> > > Unbelievable! . . .

> > > >

> > > > Does it normally take this long to get a diagnostician to

check

> > > them?

> > > >

> > > > I know you're ready for that leg to get well!

> > > >

> > > > I had a great massage this evening! . . . I'm ready to go now!

> > > >

> > > > Rogene

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ************ ************<WBR>**It's Tax Time! Get tips,

forms,

> > > Money &

> > > > Finance. (_http://money. Finance. Finance.<WBhttp://mo_

> > > (http://money. (http (http://m 00000001) )

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ************ ************<WBR>**It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms,

and

> advice

> > o &

> > > Finance. (http://money. Finance. Finance. Finance.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL

Money

> &

> > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

> >

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Sorry PH,

I just found your Post that answers my ???

This stupid brain fog.....I hate it!!!!!

I must of saved it and forgot about it silly me

Love

Patty,

That site that Ph gave me for vitamins and minerals say you need

a health practioner to order it did you?

In a message dated 3/6/2008 8:06:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, perfecthealth68@... writes:

Hi ,

Hi ,Yes, you can do coffee enemas while chelating. Patty said she did. I know she also used a colema board so she could do colonics at home but I don't know if she did those on round or off.

GSE stands for grapefruit seed extract. It is a natrual antifungal. This is the brand I use although you could probably use whatever is at your healthfood store (if you have one). http://www.vitacost.com/NutriBiotic-GSE-Liquid-Concentrate-Grapefruit-Seed-Extract

As far as a mineral supplement during chelation I take what my doc gave me and I can't find it online. Patty recommended this from the Links section

http://www.druckerlabs.com/intramax.html

No, DMSA does not chelate from the brain. ALA does. I can't explain it but after 5 rounds my brain fog has diminished significantly...still have occasional moments but none of the drunk, foggy, out- of- it- type feeling. My brain still doesn't feel right, but all I know is I'm improving. All along though I've been doing other therapies and I'm sure they helped as well. No one knows what makes the brain fog appear or disappear but it does and it will for you too. Just try to be patient.

One thing that Cutler's book mentions is that garlic and other sulfur foods can redistribute mercury causing bad side effects for some. Some can tolerate it and others can't. Maybe some of your reaction could be from that. Chelating helps in that eventually there will be very few foods we react to once the mercury is out and our guts healed.

Love, PH

>> Ph,> I tried joining the group but it wont let me it says its bouncing so I cant > look back > at anything of all the protcols...This is why it has taken me so long to get > better.> Thank you so much for this know this took time to write out for me and I > really really> appreciate it. I printed it out to follow it step by step.> > You said you do colonics after your round of DMSA I dont have that around > here can I > use coffee enemas will that work just the same.> > What is GSE that you use in controlling the yeast?> > What is a good supplement to take while chelating and do you take this on > and off too or > just keep taking it to build up your minerals?> > You mean to tell me it doesn't take mercury out of the brain than how does > the> brain fog go away? Can we get brain cancer from this!!!!> Love > > > In a message dated 3/6/2008 10:33:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > perfecthealth68@... writes:> > > > > Hi ,> I know this is easier said than done, but please try to relax. I know the > symptoms are scary now but you WILL get through this. Your body is working > well to detox and that's the reason for all these crazy symptoms.> OK, so here's the condensed protocol from Andy Cutler's book: > 1. Wait at least 4 days after amalgam removal to begin. > 2. Start low and go slow with dosage (VERY important...Start low and go > slow with dosage (VERY important...<WBR>people who try to move Most people > on the frequent dose chelation forum begin with 12.5 mg of DMSA and take it > every four hours including waking up at night to take it. My capusles are > 100 mg so I break it open and divide the powder on a plate into 8 equal piles > with a knife or razor blade. Then I dip my finger in one dose and put it all > in my mouth. Some people buy pill filler machines to do this. Most do it > the way I am. If your capsule dosage is 50 mg., you'll separate it into 4. > 3. Continue taking the DMSA for 3 days and then do 3 days off or more, > depending on what your body needs. This equals one round. You will continue > rounds for several months depending on how well your body excretes the > mercury and how well you tolerate DMSA. > 4. If you seem to tolerate going 4 days, do so, but take as many days > off as you were on. You can work your way up as long as you feel comfortable. > Some people can go 9 days, some can only go 3. Do what you need to do. I > personally have done best by keeping the dosage low and not pushing myself to > stay on round if I feel miserable. The one time I increased the dosage I > had serious side effects. > 5. Do NOT miss a dosage. I set my phone alarm for every 4 hours. If > you miss a dosage by more than 1 hour, you need to stop and go off the round > for as long as you were on. > 6. DMSA can cause yeast growth for some. It does for me and I can tell > when my symptoms are getting to the point where I need to stop the DMSA. > Taking GSE has been helpful for me in controlling the yeast. > 7. Be sure to take a fiber supplement..Be sure to take a fiber > supplement..<WBR>.very important so that you excrete the mercury out of the bowels > quickl I take Garden of Life Super Seed. I also do colonics after I finish a > round. > 8. DMSA chelates good minerals as well so make sure you are taking a > good mineral supplement. Patty said there is one listed under healing products > in the Files or Links. > 9. DMSA carries mercury out of the body but not out of the brain. You > want to make sure your body burden of mercury is low and that's why you do > DMSA before ALA. If you introduce ALA too soon you can cause redistribution > into the brain. > 10. Three months after almalgam removal you can introduce ALA with DMSA. > I haven't done this yet but plan to this weekend. I still need to read up > on it and I'll let you know. > 11. Cutler's book is called Amalgam Illness and it is very > comprehensive but also pretty technical. There is so much more to the protocol as > far as supplements and tests and dealing with yeast and multiple chemical > sensitivities, as well as changing the dosing schedule based on your particular > side effects...too complex for me to describe. The frequent dose chelation > forum has been extremely helpful and I highly recommend you joining because > you will learn far more than I can tell you (although still feel free to as me > anything!). > 12. To join the forum, go to _www._ (http://www./) > Click on Groups. Search Frequent Dose Chelation and a picture of his yellow > book will come up. Click on that and you can join.> , you're on the right track! Getting rid of this mercury will help > get rid of the candida and you can have your health back once and for all! > Love, PH > 1. _ @SalineSupporSal_ > (mailto: ) , shellyjo1021@, sh> >> > Ph,> > I am really bad off...I am not sleeping ..Tell me how to do it step by > step > > please.> > Your the only one that seems to be detailed in helping with this and your > all> > I got. I ordered 3 bottles of DMSA and nutrients for chelating. How long > > before you> > started feeling better? Sorry for all the questions. Hopefully it comes > with > > instructons.> > I ordered it what Patty said ...5 rounds at 4 days is how long in time > frame?> > I need to get my fillings out first but still send me instructions so I > can > > print it and I will> > start it as soon as fillings are out. I cannot live like this no more.> > Love > > > > > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:36:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > perfecthealth68@ perf> > > > > > > > > > ,> > From what Andy Cutler suggests, it can take one to three years to > > chelate almost all the mercury. That is of course based on severity > > of symptoms. However, I've spoken with people on the chelation forum > > who feel much better before that. According to my symptoms, it > > should take me 3 years. But, I've only completed 5 rounds at 4 days > > each and I am feeling much better as far as brain fog and blurriness. > > Love, PH> > > > --- In __ @_ @_ > (mailto:_ @SalineSupporSal) _ (_mailto:SalineSuppormailto:SalineSmai_ > (mailto: ) ) > > , shellyjo1021@ shel> > >> > > Wow girls> > > I wished I would have had a proper dental amagram removal....I have > > just > > > about done everything> > > wrong. I knew I was worse after dentist. > > > Thanks Patty for the site to order the DMSA because my dentist is > > full of > > > bull.And so was that> > > chelation of EDTA they gave me which your not suppose to have when > > you have > > > mercury fillings> > > either. I am just trying to find out why the brain fog is so bad > > and the > > > nervous system.> > > Sorry girls i didn't mean to m ake any one worry so much but I know > > if I was > > > high in mercury> > > back then I know I am higher now because of my dentist of improper > > removal.> > > No wonder why I am not getting better....I have got to get the rest > > of my > > > fillings out and> > > then detox that mercury.> > > does anyone know( I think PH can answer this or anyone else whos > > been thru > > > this) How long> > > does it normally take to detox mercury ..I read you have to take it > > slow. At > > > least I know> > > what I am fighting now with the brain fog.> > > Thanks everyone this has put me at ease along with the capsulectomy.> > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:02:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > > saxony01@ writes:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lea,> > > > > > Surely someone has checked your x-rays by now! . . . > > Unbelievable! . . . > > > > > > Does it normally take this long to get a diagnostician to check > > them?> > > > > > I know you're ready for that leg to get well!> > > > > > I had a great massage this evening! . . . I'm ready to go now!> > > > > > Rogene> > > > > & g t; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, > > Money & > > > Finance. (_http://money. Finance. Finance.<WBhttp://mo_ > > (_http://money.http://moneyhtt p://money.<WBhttp://mo_ > (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ) )> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and ad & > > Finance. (_http://money.http://moneyhttp://money.<WBhttp://mo_ > (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) )> >> > --- In @ In--- In Salin--- In Sal> >> > Ph,> > I am really bad off...I am not sleeping ..Tell me how to do it step by > step > > please.> > Your the only one that seems to be detailed in helping with this and your > all> > I got. I ordered 3 bottles of DMSA and nutrients for chelating. How long > > before you> > started feeling better? Sorry for all the questions. Hopefully it comes > with > > instructons.> > I ordered it what Patty said ...5 rounds at 4 days is how long in time > frame?> > I need to get my fillings out first but still send me instructions so I > can > > print it and I will> > start it as soon as fillings are out. I cannot live like this no more.> > Love > > > > > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:36:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > perfecthealth68@ perf> > > > > > > > > > ,> > From what Andy Cutler suggests, it can take one to three years to > > chelate almost all the mercury. That is of course based on severity > > of symptoms. However, I've spoken with people on the chelation fo rum > > who feel much better before that. According to my symptoms, it > > should take me 3 years. But, I've only completed 5 rounds at 4 days > > each and I a m feeling much better as far as brain fog and blurriness. > > Love, PH> > > > --- In _ @ --- In _ @<WBR>SalineSu --- In _ --- > > , shellyjo1021@ , > > >> > > Wow girls> > > I wished I would have had a proper dental amagram removal....I have > > just > > > about done everything> > > wrong. I knew I was worse after dentist. > > > Thanks Patty for the site to order the DMSA because my dentist is > > full of > > > bull.And so was that> > > chelation of EDTA they gave me which your not suppose to have when > > you have > > > mercury fillings> > > either. I am just trying to find out why the brain fog is so bad > > and the > > > nervous system.> > > Sorry girls i didn't mean to make any one worry so much but I know > > if I was > > > high in mercury> > > back then I know I am higher now because of my dentist of improper > > removal.> > > No wonder why I am not getting better....I have got to get the rest > > of my > > > fillings out and> > > then detox that mercury.> > > does anyone know( I think PH can answer this or anyone else whos > > been thru > > > this) How long> > > does it normally take to detox mercury ..I read you have to take it > > slow. At > > > least I know> > > what I am fighting now with the brain fog.> > > Thanks everyone this has put me at ease along with the capsulectomy.> > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:02:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > > saxony01@ writes:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lea,> > > > > > Surely someone has checked your x-rays by now! . . . > > Unbelievable! . . . > > > > > > Does it normally take this long to get a diagnostician to check > > them?> > > > > > I know you're ready for that leg to get well!> > > > > > I had a great massage this evening! . . . I'm ready to go now!> > > > > > Rogene> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, > > Money & > > > Finance. (_http://money. Finance. Finance.<WBhttp://mo_ > > (http://money. (http (http://m 00000001) )> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice > o & > > Finance. (http://money. Finance. Finance. Finance. > >> > > > > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)>

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Dont forget let me know the protocol when you start taking ALA

and what mg. ?

Thanks

In a message dated 3/6/2008 11:33:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, perfecthealth68@... writes:

Hi ,I know this is easier said than done, but please try to relax. I know the symptoms are scary now but you WILL get through this. Your body is working well to detox and that's the reason for all these crazy symptoms.OK, so here's the condensed protocol from Andy Cutler's book:

Wait at least 4 days after amalgam removal to begin. Start low and go slow with dosage (VERY important...people who try to move too fast and take greater dosages often harm themselves). Most people on the frequent dose chelation forum begin with 12.5 mg of DMSA and take it every four hours including waking up at night to take it. My capusles are 100 mg so I break it open and divide the powder on a plate into 8 equal piles with a knife or razor blade. Then I dip my finger in one dose and put it all in my mouth. Some people buy pill filler machines to do this. Most do it the way I am. If your capsule dosage is 50 mg., you'll separate it into 4. Continue taking the DMSA for 3 days and then do 3 days off or more, depending on what your body needs. This equals one round. You will continue rounds for several months depending on how well your body excretes the mercury and how well you tolerate DMSA. If you seem to tolerate going 4 days, do so, but take as many days off as you were on. You can work your way up as long as you feel comfortable. Some people can go 9 days, some can only go 3. Do what you need to do. I personally have done best by keeping the dosage low and not pushing myself to stay on round if I feel miserable. The one time I increased the dosage I had serious side effects. Do NOT miss a dosage. I set my phone alarm for every 4 hours. If you miss a dosage by more than 1 hour, you need to stop and go off the round for as long as you were on. DMSA can cause yeast growth for some. It does for me and I can tell when my symptoms are getting to the point where I need to stop the DMSA. Taking GSE has been helpful for me in controlling the yeast. Be sure to take a fiber supplement...very important so that you excrete the mercury out of the bowels quickly in order to avoid redistribution. I take Garden of Life Super Seed. I also do colonics after I finish a round. DMSA chelates good minerals as well so make sure you are taking a good mineral supplement. Patty said there is one listed under healing products in the Files or Links. DMSA carries mercury out of the body but not out of the brain. You want to make sure your body burden of mercury is low and that's why you do DMSA before ALA. If you introduce ALA too soon you can cause redistribution into the brain. Three months after almalgam removal you can introduce ALA with DMSA. I haven't done this yet but plan to this weekend. I still need to read up on it and I'll let you know. Cutler's book is called Amalgam Illness and it is very comprehensive but also pretty technical. There is so much more to the protocol as far as supplements and tests and dealing with yeast and multiple chemical sensitivities, as well as changing the dosing schedule based on your particular side effects...too complex for me to describe. The frequent dose chelation forum has been extremely helpful and I highly recommend you joining because you will learn far more than I can tell you (although still feel free to as me anything!). To join the forum, go to www. Click on Groups. Search Frequent Dose Chelation and a picture of his yellow book will come up. Click on that and you can join.

, you're on the right track! Getting rid of this mercury will help get rid of the candida and you can have your health back once and for all! Love, PH

, shellyjo1021@... wrote:>> Ph,> I am really bad off...I am not sleeping ..Tell me how to do it step by step > please.> Your the only one that seems to be detailed in helping with this and your all> I got. I ordered 3 bottles of DMSA and nutrients for chelating. How long > before you> started feeling better? Sorry for all the questions. Hopefully it comes with > instructons.> I ordered it what Patty said ...5 rounds at 4 days is how long in time frame?> I need to get my fillings out first but still send me instructions so I can > print it and I will> start it as soon as fillings are out. I cannot live like this no more.> Love > > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:36:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > perfecthealth68@... writes:> > > > > ,> From what Andy Cutler suggests, it can take one to three years to > chelate almost all the mercury. That is of course based on severity > of symptoms. However, I've spoken with people on the chelation forum > who feel much better before that. According to my symptoms, it > should take me 3 years. But, I've only completed 5 rounds at 4 days > each and I am feeling much better as far as brain fog and blurriness. > Love, PH> > >> Ph,> I am really bad off...I am not sleeping ..Tell me how to do it step by step > please.> Your the only one that seems to be detailed in helping with this and your all> I got. I ordered 3 bottles of DMSA and nutrients for chelating. How long > before you> started feeling better? Sorry for all the questions. Hopefully it comes with > instructons.> I ordered it what Patty said ...5 rounds at 4 days is how long in time frame?> I need to get my fillings out first but still send me instructions so I can > print it and I will> start it as soon as fillings are out. I cannot live like this no more.> Love > > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:36:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > perfecthealth68@... writes:> > > > > ,> From what Andy Cutler suggests, it can take one to three years to > chelate almost all the mercury. That is of course based on severity > of symptoms. However, I've spoken with people on the chelation fo rum > who feel much better before that. According to my symptoms, it > should take me 3 years. But, I've only completed 5 rounds at 4 days > each and I am feeling much better as far as brain fog and blurriness. > Love, PH> > --- In _ @SalineSupporSal_ (mailto: ) > , shellyjo1021@, shel> >> > Wow girls> > I wished I would have had a proper dental amagram removal....I have > just > > about done everything> > wrong. I knew I was worse after dentist. > > Thanks Patty for the site to order the DMSA because my dentist is > full of > > bull.And so was that> > chelation of EDTA they gave me which your not suppose to have when > you have > > mercury fillings> > either. I am just trying to find out why the brain fog is so bad > and the > > nervous system.> > Sorry girls i didn't mean to make any one worry so much but I know > if I was > > high in mercury> > back then I know I am higher now because of my dentist of improper > removal.> > No wonder why I am not getting better....I have got to get the rest > of my > > fillings out and> > then detox that mercury.> > does anyone know( I think PH can answer this or anyone else whos > been thru > > this) How long> > does it normally take to detox mercury ..I read you have to take it > slow. At > > least I know> > what I am fighting now with the brain fog.> > Thanks everyone this has put me at ease along with the capsulectomy.> > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:02:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > saxony01@ writes:> > > > > > > > > > > > Lea,> > > > Surely someone has checked your x-rays by now! . . . > Unbelievable! . . . > > > > Does it normally take this long to get a diagnostician to check > them?> > > > I know you're ready for that leg to get well!> > > > I had a great massage this evening! . . . I'm ready to go now!> > > > Rogene> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, > Money & > > Finance. (_http://money.http://moneyhttp://money.<WBhttp://mo_ > (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) )> >> > > > > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)>

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Dont forget let me know the protocol when you start taking ALA

and what mg. ?

Thanks

In a message dated 3/6/2008 11:33:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, perfecthealth68@... writes:

Hi ,I know this is easier said than done, but please try to relax. I know the symptoms are scary now but you WILL get through this. Your body is working well to detox and that's the reason for all these crazy symptoms.OK, so here's the condensed protocol from Andy Cutler's book:

Wait at least 4 days after amalgam removal to begin. Start low and go slow with dosage (VERY important...people who try to move too fast and take greater dosages often harm themselves). Most people on the frequent dose chelation forum begin with 12.5 mg of DMSA and take it every four hours including waking up at night to take it. My capusles are 100 mg so I break it open and divide the powder on a plate into 8 equal piles with a knife or razor blade. Then I dip my finger in one dose and put it all in my mouth. Some people buy pill filler machines to do this. Most do it the way I am. If your capsule dosage is 50 mg., you'll separate it into 4. Continue taking the DMSA for 3 days and then do 3 days off or more, depending on what your body needs. This equals one round. You will continue rounds for several months depending on how well your body excretes the mercury and how well you tolerate DMSA. If you seem to tolerate going 4 days, do so, but take as many days off as you were on. You can work your way up as long as you feel comfortable. Some people can go 9 days, some can only go 3. Do what you need to do. I personally have done best by keeping the dosage low and not pushing myself to stay on round if I feel miserable. The one time I increased the dosage I had serious side effects. Do NOT miss a dosage. I set my phone alarm for every 4 hours. If you miss a dosage by more than 1 hour, you need to stop and go off the round for as long as you were on. DMSA can cause yeast growth for some. It does for me and I can tell when my symptoms are getting to the point where I need to stop the DMSA. Taking GSE has been helpful for me in controlling the yeast. Be sure to take a fiber supplement...very important so that you excrete the mercury out of the bowels quickly in order to avoid redistribution. I take Garden of Life Super Seed. I also do colonics after I finish a round. DMSA chelates good minerals as well so make sure you are taking a good mineral supplement. Patty said there is one listed under healing products in the Files or Links. DMSA carries mercury out of the body but not out of the brain. You want to make sure your body burden of mercury is low and that's why you do DMSA before ALA. If you introduce ALA too soon you can cause redistribution into the brain. Three months after almalgam removal you can introduce ALA with DMSA. I haven't done this yet but plan to this weekend. I still need to read up on it and I'll let you know. Cutler's book is called Amalgam Illness and it is very comprehensive but also pretty technical. There is so much more to the protocol as far as supplements and tests and dealing with yeast and multiple chemical sensitivities, as well as changing the dosing schedule based on your particular side effects...too complex for me to describe. The frequent dose chelation forum has been extremely helpful and I highly recommend you joining because you will learn far more than I can tell you (although still feel free to as me anything!). To join the forum, go to www. Click on Groups. Search Frequent Dose Chelation and a picture of his yellow book will come up. Click on that and you can join.

, you're on the right track! Getting rid of this mercury will help get rid of the candida and you can have your health back once and for all! Love, PH

, shellyjo1021@... wrote:>> Ph,> I am really bad off...I am not sleeping ..Tell me how to do it step by step > please.> Your the only one that seems to be detailed in helping with this and your all> I got. I ordered 3 bottles of DMSA and nutrients for chelating. How long > before you> started feeling better? Sorry for all the questions. Hopefully it comes with > instructons.> I ordered it what Patty said ...5 rounds at 4 days is how long in time frame?> I need to get my fillings out first but still send me instructions so I can > print it and I will> start it as soon as fillings are out. I cannot live like this no more.> Love > > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:36:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > perfecthealth68@... writes:> > > > > ,> From what Andy Cutler suggests, it can take one to three years to > chelate almost all the mercury. That is of course based on severity > of symptoms. However, I've spoken with people on the chelation forum > who feel much better before that. According to my symptoms, it > should take me 3 years. But, I've only completed 5 rounds at 4 days > each and I am feeling much better as far as brain fog and blurriness. > Love, PH> > >> Ph,> I am really bad off...I am not sleeping ..Tell me how to do it step by step > please.> Your the only one that seems to be detailed in helping with this and your all> I got. I ordered 3 bottles of DMSA and nutrients for chelating. How long > before you> started feeling better? Sorry for all the questions. Hopefully it comes with > instructons.> I ordered it what Patty said ...5 rounds at 4 days is how long in time frame?> I need to get my fillings out first but still send me instructions so I can > print it and I will> start it as soon as fillings are out. I cannot live like this no more.> Love > > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:36:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > perfecthealth68@... writes:> > > > > ,> From what Andy Cutler suggests, it can take one to three years to > chelate almost all the mercury. That is of course based on severity > of symptoms. However, I've spoken with people on the chelation fo rum > who feel much better before that. According to my symptoms, it > should take me 3 years. But, I've only completed 5 rounds at 4 days > each and I am feeling much better as far as brain fog and blurriness. > Love, PH> > --- In _ @SalineSupporSal_ (mailto: ) > , shellyjo1021@, shel> >> > Wow girls> > I wished I would have had a proper dental amagram removal....I have > just > > about done everything> > wrong. I knew I was worse after dentist. > > Thanks Patty for the site to order the DMSA because my dentist is > full of > > bull.And so was that> > chelation of EDTA they gave me which your not suppose to have when > you have > > mercury fillings> > either. I am just trying to find out why the brain fog is so bad > and the > > nervous system.> > Sorry girls i didn't mean to make any one worry so much but I know > if I was > > high in mercury> > back then I know I am higher now because of my dentist of improper > removal.> > No wonder why I am not getting better....I have got to get the rest > of my > > fillings out and> > then detox that mercury.> > does anyone know( I think PH can answer this or anyone else whos > been thru > > this) How long> > does it normally take to detox mercury ..I read you have to take it > slow. At > > least I know> > what I am fighting now with the brain fog.> > Thanks everyone this has put me at ease along with the capsulectomy.> > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:02:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > saxony01@ writes:> > > > > > > > > > > > Lea,> > > > Surely someone has checked your x-rays by now! . . . > Unbelievable! . . . > > > > Does it normally take this long to get a diagnostician to check > them?> > > > I know you're ready for that leg to get well!> > > > I had a great massage this evening! . . . I'm ready to go now!> > > > Rogene> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, > Money & > > Finance. (_http://money.http://moneyhttp://money.<WBhttp://mo_ > (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) )> >> > > > > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)>

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No, I did not...this website was given to the group by one of our

former members, Kathy, and I am not sure how she ordered it. Maybe I

will write her and find out, since I have not talked to her for

awhile. I'll let you know.

Patty

>

> Sorry PH,

> I just found your Post that answers my ???

> This stupid brain fog.....I hate it!!!!!

> I must of saved it and forgot about it silly me

> Love

>

>

> Patty,

>

> That site that Ph gave me for vitamins and minerals say you need

> a health practioner to order it did you?

>

>

>

> In a message dated 3/6/2008 8:06:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> perfecthealth68@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> Hi ,

> Hi ,

> Yes, you can do coffee enemas while chelating. Patty said she

did. I know

> she also used a colema board so she could do colonics at home but

I don't

> know if she did those on round or off.

> GSE stands for grapefruit seed extract. It is a natrual

antifungal. This

> is the brand I use although you could probably use whatever is at

your

> healthfood store (if you have one).

>

_http://www.vitacosthttp://www.vitachttp://www.vhttp://www.vhttp://www

..http://

> www.v_

> (http://www.vitacost.com/NutriBiotic-GSE-Liquid-Concentrate-

Grapefruit-Seed-Extract)

> As far as a mineral supplement during chelation I take what my doc

gave me

> and I can't find it online. Patty recommended this from the Links

section

> _http://www.druckerlhttp://www.druckhttp:_

> (http://www.druckerlabs.com/intramax.html)

> No, DMSA does not chelate from the brain. ALA does. I can't

explain it but

> after 5 rounds my brain fog has diminished significantly. I can't

explain

> it but after 5 rounds my brain fog has diminished

significantly.<WB My brain

> still doesn't feel right, but all I know is I'm improving. All

along though

> I've been doing other therapies and I'm sure they helped as well.

No one

> knows what makes the brain fog appear or disappear but it does and

it will for

> you too. Just try to be patient.

> One thing that Cutler's book mentions is that garlic and other

sulfur foods

> can redistribute mercury causing bad side effects for some. Some

can

> tolerate it and others can't. Maybe some of your reaction could be

from that.

> Chelating helps in that eventually there will be very few foods we

react to once

> the mercury is out and our guts healed.

> Love, PH

>

> --- In @ In Salin--- In SalineSuppo--- In SalineS

> >

> > Ph,

> > I tried joining the group but it wont let me it says its

bouncing so I

> cant

> > look back

> > at anything of all the protcols...This is why it has taken me so

long to

> get

> > better.

> > Thank you so much for this know this took time to write out for

me and I

> > really really

> > appreciate it. I printed it out to follow it step by step.

> >

> > You said you do colonics after your round of DMSA I dont have

that around

> > here can I

> > use coffee enemas will that work just the same.

> >

> > What is GSE that you use in controlling the yeast?

> >

> > What is a good supplement to take while chelating and do you

take this on

> > and off too or

> > just keep taking it to build up your minerals?

> >

> > You mean to tell me it doesn't take mercury out of the brain

than how does

> > the

> > brain fog go away? Can we get brain cancer from this!!!!

> > Love

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 3/6/2008 10:33:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> > perfecthealth68@ perfecthea

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi ,

> > I know this is easier said than done, but please try to relax. I

know the

> > symptoms are scary now but you WILL get through this. Your body

is working

> > well to detox and that's the reason for all these crazy symptoms.

> > OK, so here's the condensed protocol from Andy Cutler's book:

> > 1. Wait at least 4 days after amalgam removal to begin.

> > 2. Start low and go slow with dosage (VERY important... 2. Start

low and

> > slow with dosage (VERY important...<WBR>people who try to move

Most people

> > on the frequent dose chelation forum begin with 12.5 mg of DMSA

and take

> it

> > every four hours including waking up at night to take it. My

capusles are

> > 100 mg so I break it open and divide the powder on a plate into

8 equal

> piles

> > with a knife or razor blade. Then I dip my finger in one dose

and put it

> all

> > in my mouth. Some people buy pill filler machines to do this.

Most do it

> > the way I am. If your capsule dosage is 50 mg., you'll separate

it into 4.

> > 3. Continue taking the DMSA for 3 days and then do 3 days off or

more,

> > depending on what your body needs. This equals one round. You

will

> continue

> > rounds for several months depending on how well your body

excretes the

> > mercury and how well you tolerate DMSA.

> > 4. If you seem to tolerate going 4 days, do so, but take as many

days

> > off as you were on. You can work your way up as long as you feel

> comfortable.

> > Some people can go 9 days, some can only go 3. Do what you need

to do. I

> > personally have done best by keeping the dosage low and not

pushing myself

> to

> > stay on round if I feel miserable. The one time I increased the

dosage I

> > had serious side effects.

> > 5. Do NOT miss a dosage. I set my phone alarm for every 4 hours.

If

> > you miss a dosage by more than 1 hour, you need to stop and go

off the

> round

> > for as long as you were on.

> > 6. DMSA can cause yeast growth for some. It does for me and I

can tell

> > when my symptoms are getting to the point where I need to stop

the DMSA.

> > Taking GSE has been helpful for me in controlling the yeast.

> > 7. Be sure to take a fiber supplement.. 7. Be sure to take

> > supplement..<WBR>.very important so that you excrete the mercury

out of

> the bowels

> > quickl I take Garden of Life Super Seed. I also do colonics

after I finish

> a

> > round.

> > 8. DMSA chelates good minerals as well so make sure you are

taking a

> > good mineral supplement. Patty said there is one listed under

healing

> products

> > in the Files or Links.

> > 9. DMSA carries mercury out of the body but not out of the

brain. You

> > want to make sure your body burden of mercury is low and that's

why you do

> > DMSA before ALA. If you introduce ALA too soon you can cause

> redistribution

> > into the brain.

> > 10. Three months after almalgam removal you can introduce ALA

with DMSA.

> > I haven't done this yet but plan to this weekend. I still need

to read up

> > on it and I'll let you know.

> > 11. Cutler's book is called Amalgam Illness and it is

very

> > comprehensive but also pretty technical. There is so much more

to the

> protocol as

> > far as supplements and tests and dealing with yeast and multiple

chemical

> > sensitivities, as well as changing the dosing schedule based on

your

> particular

> > side effects...too complex for me to describe. The frequent dose

chelation

> > forum has been extremely helpful and I highly recommend you

joining

> because

> > you will learn far more than I can tell you (although still feel

free to

> as me

> > anything!).

> > 12. To join the forum, go to _www._ (http://www. 12.

To 12. T

> > Click on Groups. Search Frequent Dose Chelation and a picture of

his

> yellow

> > book will come up. Click on that and you can join.

> > , you're on the right track! Getting rid of this mercury

will help

> > get rid of the candida and you can have your health back once and

for all!

> > Love, PH

> > 1. _ @ 1. _ @<W

> > (mailto:SalineSuppo (mailto:Saline (mailto:SalineSuppo<WBR (ma

> > >

> > > Ph,

> > > I am really bad off...I am not sleeping ..Tell me how to do it

step by

> > step

> > > please.

> > > Your the only one that seems to be detailed in helping with

this and

> your

> > all

> > > I got. I ordered 3 bottles of DMSA and nutrients for

chelating. How long

> > > before you

> > > started feeling better? Sorry for all the questions. Hopefully

it comes

> > with

> > > instructons.

> > > I ordered it what Patty said ...5 rounds at 4 days is how long

in time

> > frame?

> > > I need to get my fillings out first but still send me

instructions so I

> > can

> > > print it and I will

> > > start it as soon as fillings are out. I cannot live like this

no more.

> > > Love

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:36:46 P.M. Eastern Standard

Time,

> > > perfecthealth68@ perf

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ,

> > > From what Andy Cutler suggests, it can take one to three years

to

> > > chelate almost all the mercury. That is of course based on

severity

> > > of symptoms. However, I've spoken with people on the chelation

forum

> > > who feel much better before that. According to my symptoms, it

> > > should take me 3 years. But, I've only completed 5 rounds at 4

days

> > > each and I am feeling much better as far as brain fog and

blurriness.

> > > Love, PH

> > >

> > > --- In __ @ --- In __S

> > (mailto:_SalineSupp (mailto:_Sa (mailto:_SalineSupp<WBR>o

(mai (mailto

> > (mailto:SalineSuppo (mailto:Sa (m

> > > , shellyjo1021@ shel

> > > >

> > > > Wow girls

> > > > I wished I would have had a proper dental amagram

removal....I have

> > > just

> > > > about done everything

> > > > wrong. I knew I was worse after dentist.

> > > > Thanks Patty for the site to order the DMSA because my

dentist is

> > > full of

> > > > bull.And so was that

> > > > chelation of EDTA they gave me which your not suppose to

have when

> > > you have

> > > > mercury fillings

> > > > either. I am just trying to find out why the brain fog is so

bad

> > > and the

> > > > nervous system.

> > > > Sorry girls i didn't mean to m ake any one worry so much but

I know

> > > if I was

> > > > high in mercury

> > > > back then I know I am higher now because of my dentist of

improper

> > > removal.

> > > > No wonder why I am not getting better....I have got to get

the rest

> > > of my

> > > > fillings out and

> > > > then detox that mercury.

> > > > does anyone know( I think PH can answer this or anyone else

whos

> > > been thru

> > > > this) How long

> > > > does it normally take to detox mercury ..I read you have to

take it

> > > slow. At

> > > > least I know

> > > > what I am fighting now with the brain fog.

> > > > Thanks everyone this has put me at ease along with the

capsulectomy.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:02:37 P.M. Eastern Standard

Time,

> > > > saxony01@ writes:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Lea,

> > > >

> > > > Surely someone has checked your x-rays by now! . . .

> > > Unbelievable! . . .

> > > >

> > > > Does it normally take this long to get a diagnostician to

check

> > > them?

> > > >

> > > > I know you're ready for that leg to get well!

> > > >

> > > > I had a great massage this evening! . . . I'm ready to go

now!

> > > >

> > > > Rogene

> > > >

> > > & g t;

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > --- In @ In--- In Salin--- In Sal

> > >

> > > Ph,

> > > I am really bad off...I am not sleeping ..Tell me how to do it

step by

> > step

> > > please.

> > > Your the only one that seems to be detailed in helping with

this and

> your

> > all

> > > I got. I ordered 3 bottles of DMSA and nutrients for

chelating. How long

> > > before you

> > > started feeling better? Sorry for all the questions. Hopefully

it comes

> > with

> > > instructons.

> > > I ordered it what Patty said ...5 rounds at 4 days is how long

in time

> > frame?

> > > I need to get my fillings out first but still send me

instructions so I

> > can

> > > print it and I will

> > > start it as soon as fillings are out. I cannot live like this

no more.

> > > Love

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:36:46 P.M. Eastern Standard

Time,

> > > perfecthealth68@ perf

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ,

> > > From what Andy Cutler suggests, it can take one to three years

to

> > > chelate almost all the mercury. That is of course based on

severity

> > > of symptoms. However, I've spoken with people on the chelation

fo rum

> > > who feel much better before that. According to my symptoms, it

> > > should take me 3 years. But, I've only completed 5 rounds at 4

days

> > > each and I a m feeling much better as far as brain fog and

blurriness.

> > > Love, PH

> > >

> > > --- In _ @ --- In _ @<WBR>SalineSu ---

In _ ---

> > > , shellyjo1021@ ,

> > > >

> > > > Wow girls

> > > > I wished I would have had a proper dental amagram

removal....I have

> > > just

> > > > about done everything

> > > > wrong. I knew I was worse after dentist.

> > > > Thanks Patty for the site to order the DMSA because my

dentist is

> > > full of

> > > > bull.And so was that

> > > > chelation of EDTA they gave me which your not suppose to

have when

> > > you have

> > > > mercury fillings

> > > > either. I am just trying to find out why the brain fog is so

bad

> > > and the

> > > > nervous system.

> > > > Sorry girls i didn't mean to make any one worry so much but

I know

> > > if I was

> > > > high in mercury

> > > > back then I know I am higher now because of my dentist of

improper

> > > removal.

> > > > No wonder why I am not getting better....I have got to get

the rest

> > > of my

> > > > fillings out and

> > > > then detox that mercury.

> > > > does anyone know( I think PH can answer this or anyone else

whos

> > > been thru

> > > > this) How long

> > > > does it normally take to detox mercury ..I read you have to

take it

> > > slow. At

> > > > least I know

> > > > what I am fighting now with the brain fog.

> > > > Thanks everyone this has put me at ease along with the

capsulectomy.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:02:37 P.M. Eastern Standard

Time,

> > > > saxony01@ writes:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Lea,

> > > >

> > > > Surely someone has checked your x-rays by now! . . .

> > > Unbelievable! . . .

> > > >

> > > > Does it normally take this long to get a diagnostician to

check

> > > them?

> > > >

> > > > I know you're ready for that leg to get well!

> > > >

> > > > I had a great massage this evening! . . . I'm ready to go

now!

> > > >

> > > > Rogene

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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No, I did not...this website was given to the group by one of our

former members, Kathy, and I am not sure how she ordered it. Maybe I

will write her and find out, since I have not talked to her for

awhile. I'll let you know.

Patty

>

> Sorry PH,

> I just found your Post that answers my ???

> This stupid brain fog.....I hate it!!!!!

> I must of saved it and forgot about it silly me

> Love

>

>

> Patty,

>

> That site that Ph gave me for vitamins and minerals say you need

> a health practioner to order it did you?

>

>

>

> In a message dated 3/6/2008 8:06:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> perfecthealth68@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> Hi ,

> Hi ,

> Yes, you can do coffee enemas while chelating. Patty said she

did. I know

> she also used a colema board so she could do colonics at home but

I don't

> know if she did those on round or off.

> GSE stands for grapefruit seed extract. It is a natrual

antifungal. This

> is the brand I use although you could probably use whatever is at

your

> healthfood store (if you have one).

>

_http://www.vitacosthttp://www.vitachttp://www.vhttp://www.vhttp://www

..http://

> www.v_

> (http://www.vitacost.com/NutriBiotic-GSE-Liquid-Concentrate-

Grapefruit-Seed-Extract)

> As far as a mineral supplement during chelation I take what my doc

gave me

> and I can't find it online. Patty recommended this from the Links

section

> _http://www.druckerlhttp://www.druckhttp:_

> (http://www.druckerlabs.com/intramax.html)

> No, DMSA does not chelate from the brain. ALA does. I can't

explain it but

> after 5 rounds my brain fog has diminished significantly. I can't

explain

> it but after 5 rounds my brain fog has diminished

significantly.<WB My brain

> still doesn't feel right, but all I know is I'm improving. All

along though

> I've been doing other therapies and I'm sure they helped as well.

No one

> knows what makes the brain fog appear or disappear but it does and

it will for

> you too. Just try to be patient.

> One thing that Cutler's book mentions is that garlic and other

sulfur foods

> can redistribute mercury causing bad side effects for some. Some

can

> tolerate it and others can't. Maybe some of your reaction could be

from that.

> Chelating helps in that eventually there will be very few foods we

react to once

> the mercury is out and our guts healed.

> Love, PH

>

> --- In @ In Salin--- In SalineSuppo--- In SalineS

> >

> > Ph,

> > I tried joining the group but it wont let me it says its

bouncing so I

> cant

> > look back

> > at anything of all the protcols...This is why it has taken me so

long to

> get

> > better.

> > Thank you so much for this know this took time to write out for

me and I

> > really really

> > appreciate it. I printed it out to follow it step by step.

> >

> > You said you do colonics after your round of DMSA I dont have

that around

> > here can I

> > use coffee enemas will that work just the same.

> >

> > What is GSE that you use in controlling the yeast?

> >

> > What is a good supplement to take while chelating and do you

take this on

> > and off too or

> > just keep taking it to build up your minerals?

> >

> > You mean to tell me it doesn't take mercury out of the brain

than how does

> > the

> > brain fog go away? Can we get brain cancer from this!!!!

> > Love

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 3/6/2008 10:33:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> > perfecthealth68@ perfecthea

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi ,

> > I know this is easier said than done, but please try to relax. I

know the

> > symptoms are scary now but you WILL get through this. Your body

is working

> > well to detox and that's the reason for all these crazy symptoms.

> > OK, so here's the condensed protocol from Andy Cutler's book:

> > 1. Wait at least 4 days after amalgam removal to begin.

> > 2. Start low and go slow with dosage (VERY important... 2. Start

low and

> > slow with dosage (VERY important...<WBR>people who try to move

Most people

> > on the frequent dose chelation forum begin with 12.5 mg of DMSA

and take

> it

> > every four hours including waking up at night to take it. My

capusles are

> > 100 mg so I break it open and divide the powder on a plate into

8 equal

> piles

> > with a knife or razor blade. Then I dip my finger in one dose

and put it

> all

> > in my mouth. Some people buy pill filler machines to do this.

Most do it

> > the way I am. If your capsule dosage is 50 mg., you'll separate

it into 4.

> > 3. Continue taking the DMSA for 3 days and then do 3 days off or

more,

> > depending on what your body needs. This equals one round. You

will

> continue

> > rounds for several months depending on how well your body

excretes the

> > mercury and how well you tolerate DMSA.

> > 4. If you seem to tolerate going 4 days, do so, but take as many

days

> > off as you were on. You can work your way up as long as you feel

> comfortable.

> > Some people can go 9 days, some can only go 3. Do what you need

to do. I

> > personally have done best by keeping the dosage low and not

pushing myself

> to

> > stay on round if I feel miserable. The one time I increased the

dosage I

> > had serious side effects.

> > 5. Do NOT miss a dosage. I set my phone alarm for every 4 hours.

If

> > you miss a dosage by more than 1 hour, you need to stop and go

off the

> round

> > for as long as you were on.

> > 6. DMSA can cause yeast growth for some. It does for me and I

can tell

> > when my symptoms are getting to the point where I need to stop

the DMSA.

> > Taking GSE has been helpful for me in controlling the yeast.

> > 7. Be sure to take a fiber supplement.. 7. Be sure to take

> > supplement..<WBR>.very important so that you excrete the mercury

out of

> the bowels

> > quickl I take Garden of Life Super Seed. I also do colonics

after I finish

> a

> > round.

> > 8. DMSA chelates good minerals as well so make sure you are

taking a

> > good mineral supplement. Patty said there is one listed under

healing

> products

> > in the Files or Links.

> > 9. DMSA carries mercury out of the body but not out of the

brain. You

> > want to make sure your body burden of mercury is low and that's

why you do

> > DMSA before ALA. If you introduce ALA too soon you can cause

> redistribution

> > into the brain.

> > 10. Three months after almalgam removal you can introduce ALA

with DMSA.

> > I haven't done this yet but plan to this weekend. I still need

to read up

> > on it and I'll let you know.

> > 11. Cutler's book is called Amalgam Illness and it is

very

> > comprehensive but also pretty technical. There is so much more

to the

> protocol as

> > far as supplements and tests and dealing with yeast and multiple

chemical

> > sensitivities, as well as changing the dosing schedule based on

your

> particular

> > side effects...too complex for me to describe. The frequent dose

chelation

> > forum has been extremely helpful and I highly recommend you

joining

> because

> > you will learn far more than I can tell you (although still feel

free to

> as me

> > anything!).

> > 12. To join the forum, go to _www._ (http://www. 12.

To 12. T

> > Click on Groups. Search Frequent Dose Chelation and a picture of

his

> yellow

> > book will come up. Click on that and you can join.

> > , you're on the right track! Getting rid of this mercury

will help

> > get rid of the candida and you can have your health back once and

for all!

> > Love, PH

> > 1. _ @ 1. _ @<W

> > (mailto:SalineSuppo (mailto:Saline (mailto:SalineSuppo<WBR (ma

> > >

> > > Ph,

> > > I am really bad off...I am not sleeping ..Tell me how to do it

step by

> > step

> > > please.

> > > Your the only one that seems to be detailed in helping with

this and

> your

> > all

> > > I got. I ordered 3 bottles of DMSA and nutrients for

chelating. How long

> > > before you

> > > started feeling better? Sorry for all the questions. Hopefully

it comes

> > with

> > > instructons.

> > > I ordered it what Patty said ...5 rounds at 4 days is how long

in time

> > frame?

> > > I need to get my fillings out first but still send me

instructions so I

> > can

> > > print it and I will

> > > start it as soon as fillings are out. I cannot live like this

no more.

> > > Love

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:36:46 P.M. Eastern Standard

Time,

> > > perfecthealth68@ perf

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ,

> > > From what Andy Cutler suggests, it can take one to three years

to

> > > chelate almost all the mercury. That is of course based on

severity

> > > of symptoms. However, I've spoken with people on the chelation

forum

> > > who feel much better before that. According to my symptoms, it

> > > should take me 3 years. But, I've only completed 5 rounds at 4

days

> > > each and I am feeling much better as far as brain fog and

blurriness.

> > > Love, PH

> > >

> > > --- In __ @ --- In __S

> > (mailto:_SalineSupp (mailto:_Sa (mailto:_SalineSupp<WBR>o

(mai (mailto

> > (mailto:SalineSuppo (mailto:Sa (m

> > > , shellyjo1021@ shel

> > > >

> > > > Wow girls

> > > > I wished I would have had a proper dental amagram

removal....I have

> > > just

> > > > about done everything

> > > > wrong. I knew I was worse after dentist.

> > > > Thanks Patty for the site to order the DMSA because my

dentist is

> > > full of

> > > > bull.And so was that

> > > > chelation of EDTA they gave me which your not suppose to

have when

> > > you have

> > > > mercury fillings

> > > > either. I am just trying to find out why the brain fog is so

bad

> > > and the

> > > > nervous system.

> > > > Sorry girls i didn't mean to m ake any one worry so much but

I know

> > > if I was

> > > > high in mercury

> > > > back then I know I am higher now because of my dentist of

improper

> > > removal.

> > > > No wonder why I am not getting better....I have got to get

the rest

> > > of my

> > > > fillings out and

> > > > then detox that mercury.

> > > > does anyone know( I think PH can answer this or anyone else

whos

> > > been thru

> > > > this) How long

> > > > does it normally take to detox mercury ..I read you have to

take it

> > > slow. At

> > > > least I know

> > > > what I am fighting now with the brain fog.

> > > > Thanks everyone this has put me at ease along with the

capsulectomy.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:02:37 P.M. Eastern Standard

Time,

> > > > saxony01@ writes:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Lea,

> > > >

> > > > Surely someone has checked your x-rays by now! . . .

> > > Unbelievable! . . .

> > > >

> > > > Does it normally take this long to get a diagnostician to

check

> > > them?

> > > >

> > > > I know you're ready for that leg to get well!

> > > >

> > > > I had a great massage this evening! . . . I'm ready to go

now!

> > > >

> > > > Rogene

> > > >

> > > & g t;

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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> >

> > --- In @ In--- In Salin--- In Sal

> > >

> > > Ph,

> > > I am really bad off...I am not sleeping ..Tell me how to do it

step by

> > step

> > > please.

> > > Your the only one that seems to be detailed in helping with

this and

> your

> > all

> > > I got. I ordered 3 bottles of DMSA and nutrients for

chelating. How long

> > > before you

> > > started feeling better? Sorry for all the questions. Hopefully

it comes

> > with

> > > instructons.

> > > I ordered it what Patty said ...5 rounds at 4 days is how long

in time

> > frame?

> > > I need to get my fillings out first but still send me

instructions so I

> > can

> > > print it and I will

> > > start it as soon as fillings are out. I cannot live like this

no more.

> > > Love

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:36:46 P.M. Eastern Standard

Time,

> > > perfecthealth68@ perf

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ,

> > > From what Andy Cutler suggests, it can take one to three years

to

> > > chelate almost all the mercury. That is of course based on

severity

> > > of symptoms. However, I've spoken with people on the chelation

fo rum

> > > who feel much better before that. According to my symptoms, it

> > > should take me 3 years. But, I've only completed 5 rounds at 4

days

> > > each and I a m feeling much better as far as brain fog and

blurriness.

> > > Love, PH

> > >

> > > --- In _ @ --- In _ @<WBR>SalineSu ---

In _ ---

> > > , shellyjo1021@ ,

> > > >

> > > > Wow girls

> > > > I wished I would have had a proper dental amagram

removal....I have

> > > just

> > > > about done everything

> > > > wrong. I knew I was worse after dentist.

> > > > Thanks Patty for the site to order the DMSA because my

dentist is

> > > full of

> > > > bull.And so was that

> > > > chelation of EDTA they gave me which your not suppose to

have when

> > > you have

> > > > mercury fillings

> > > > either. I am just trying to find out why the brain fog is so

bad

> > > and the

> > > > nervous system.

> > > > Sorry girls i didn't mean to make any one worry so much but

I know

> > > if I was

> > > > high in mercury

> > > > back then I know I am higher now because of my dentist of

improper

> > > removal.

> > > > No wonder why I am not getting better....I have got to get

the rest

> > > of my

> > > > fillings out and

> > > > then detox that mercury.

> > > > does anyone know( I think PH can answer this or anyone else

whos

> > > been thru

> > > > this) How long

> > > > does it normally take to detox mercury ..I read you have to

take it

> > > slow. At

> > > > least I know

> > > > what I am fighting now with the brain fog.

> > > > Thanks everyone this has put me at ease along with the

capsulectomy.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 11:02:37 P.M. Eastern Standard

Time,

> > > > saxony01@ writes:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Lea,

> > > >

> > > > Surely someone has checked your x-rays by now! . . .

> > > Unbelievable! . . .

> > > >

> > > > Does it normally take this long to get a diagnostician to

check

> > > them?

> > > >

> > > > I know you're ready for that leg to get well!

> > > >

> > > > I had a great massage this evening! . . . I'm ready to go

now!

> > > >

> > > > Rogene

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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