Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 > > I am 4 days away from my surgery. ==>What kind of surgery are you having? > I have been rigidly following the diet, having Pau d'Arco tea with cloves twice a day, eating garlic with at least one meal a day, and have upped my coconut oil to nearly 3 tsp. (record for me). I started taking Niacin too (no flushing here). My concern is to stay healthy before and after my surgery. > But, in the last week the following things have been happening: > 1. Bloody nose. Pretty much non-stop. When I was a little kid I > used to get really bad bloody noses that could go on for days. When I was a preteen I had a bloody nose that lasted months. As an adult I would get them but not with the frequency that I had when I was younger. Until last week. Every time I get up I get a head rush and my nose will start to bleed. Or if I bend over, or blow my nose, or go out into the cold... you get the picture. I do not know what to do about it. The doc was already concerned about blood loss during the surgery. ==>Use salt solutions as snizzles for your nose to increase clotting and ensure you are having enough ocean sea salt per day. To minimize bleeding stop taking garlic and cod liver oil until after your surgery. Ensure you takr the recommended amounts of calcium and magnesium and that you eat enough protein. Calcium and protein promotes blood clotting. You should take some Vitamin K temporarily - take 10 mg twice a day. Hopefully your aren't taking any blood thinning meds, nor any pain killers, which both contribute to the blood not clotting. > 2. I started getting diarrhea. If I don't take the full magnesium > and digestive aids I will go straight to constipation. There hasn't been anything in between for almost two weeks now. Should I be concerned? ==>Diarrhea is the body's way of getting rid of toxins, most of which will be from candida being killed off at this point in time. You should try massaging your ileocecal valve like Anita is doing - search on my site for it; http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com > > Also, told doc that I would not be taking anti-biotics. He fought a bit but agreed to my terms. He did ask if I wanted pain killers. I wasn't sure so I took the prescription. Will those cause a problem with candida? I heard it can be pretty a pretty painful recovery and would probably take them if I could. ==> > Thanks http://kelleygate.blogspot.com 10 weeks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 > ==>What kind of surgery are you having? Sorry, I should have clarified. I am having laparoscopic surgery to remove endomitriosis. > ==>Use salt solutions as snizzles for your nose to increase lotting > and ensure you are having enough ocean sea salt per day. I don't know the word snizzles??? To minimize bleeding stop taking garlic and cod liver oil until after your surgery. Done. Should I supplement with more or other oils? Should I take another anti-fungal instead or start taking them again after surgery? Ensure you takr the recommended amounts of calcium and magnesium and that you eat enough protein. Calcium and protein promotes blood clotting. I will take more calcium. I already take 500-700 mg magnesium. I have been going over my daily protein recommendations since adding a third meal a couple of weeks ago. You should take some Vitamin K temporarily - take 10 mg twice a day. I will pick some up. Hopefully your aren't taking any blood thinning meds, nor any pain killers, which both contribute to the blood not clotting. No I am not. My doc said not to take any for two weeks before surgery. > ==>Diarrhea is the body's way of getting rid of toxins, most of which will be from candida being killed off at this point in time. You should try massaging your ileocecal valve like Anita is doing - search on my site for it; http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com I did that for a while when it came up last month. It didn't seem to do much but I will try again. He did ask if I wanted pain killers. I wasn't sure so I took the prescription. Will those cause a problem with candida? I heard it can be pretty a pretty painful recovery and would probably take them if I could. ??? > ==> Thanks http://kelleygate.blogspot.com 10 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Hi, I had two thoughts when you mentioned having bloody noses. One it could simply be because the weather is cold, dry and your tissues are chapped and thats the reason for it happening. I get that in cold, dry weather. The other thing is I had two kids who would get blood noses frequently. They would just pour with blood flow. I remember reading that a lack of vitamin K increases blood noses. So I would always remind my kids that they are short on the green veggies. They being teenagers, were always out eating at fast food places and forgoing mom's fresh cooked greens and salads. Try including lots of spinach, kale endive, baby greens, brocolli along with onion and garlic (natural blood clotting regulaters, I call them.) Also be sure to take your vitamin C- another tissue strengthener. May even help with the bowels. Good luck with your surgery and a quick recovery to you! Val sk <sk07nh@...> wrote: I am 4 days away from my surgery. I have been rigidly following the diet, having Pau d'Arco tea with cloves twice a day, eating garlic with at least one meal a day, and have upped my coconut oil to nearly 3 tsp. (record for me). I started taking Niacin too (no flushing here). My concern is to stay healthy before and after my surgery. But, in the last week the following things have been happening: 1. Bloody nose. Pretty much non-stop. When I was a little kid I used to get really bad bloody noses that could go on for days. When I was a preteen I had a bloody nose that lasted months. As an adult I would get them but not with the frequency that I had when I was younger. Until last week. Every time I get up I get a head rush and my nose will start to bleed. Or if I bend over, or blow my nose, or go out into the cold... you get the picture. I do not know what to do about it. The doc was already concerned about blood loss during the surgery. 2. I started getting diarrhea. If I don't take the full magnesium and digestive aids I will go straight to constipation. There hasn't been anything in between for almost two weeks now. Should I be concerned? Also, told doc that I would not be taking anti-biotics. He fought a bit but agreed to my terms. He did ask if I wanted pain killers. I wasn't sure so I took the prescription. Will those cause a problem with candida? I heard it can be pretty a pretty painful recovery and would probably take them if I could. Thanks http://kelleygate.blogspot.com 10 weeks --------------------------------- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Search weather shortcut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 > > > ==>What kind of surgery are you having? > Sorry, I should have clarified. I am having laparoscopic surgery to remove endomitriosis. > > > ==>Use salt solutions as snizzles for your nose to increase clotting and ensure you are having enough ocean sea salt per day. > I don't know the word snizzles??? ==>Snizzles are in this article: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/sinus4.php > ==> To minimize bleeding stop taking garlic and cod liver oil until after your surgery. > Done. Should I supplement with more or other oils? Should I take > another anti-fungal instead or start taking them again after surgery? ==>Yes you can consume oils and fats like butter, lard, etc. Wait until after you have recovered from your surgery to start on anti- fungals. > ==> Ensure you take the recommended amounts of calcium and magnesium and that you eat enough protein. Calcium and protein promotes blood > clotting. > I will take more calcium. I already take 500-700 mg magnesium. I > have been going over my daily protein recommendations since adding a third meal a couple of weeks ago. ==>You should be taking 600 mg calcium split into 2 doses daily, not any more. > ==> Hopefully your aren't taking any blood thinning meds, nor any pain killers, which both contribute to the blood not clotting. > No I am not. My doc said not to take any for two weeks before > surgery. ==>Do you usually take blood thinning medications? > He did ask if I wanted pain killers. I wasn't sure so I took the > prescription. Will those cause a problem with candida? I heard it > can be pretty a pretty painful recovery and would probably take them if I could. ==>About pain killers, they are a drug so they are toxic and any additional toxin will contribute to candida overgrowth. If you can possibly not take them it would be better - they also thin the blood. A natural alternative is white willow bark available at the health store - take according to the directions. Also you can sniff on a bottle of oil of oregano to help alleviate pain. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 > 1. Bloody nose. Pretty much non-stop. When I was a little kid I > used to get really bad bloody noses that could go on for days. When I was a preteen I had a bloody nose that lasted months. As an adult I would get them but not with the frequency that I had when I was younger. Until last week. Every time I get up I get a head rush and my nose will start to bleed. Or if I bend over, or blow my nose, or go out into the cold... you get the picture. I do not know what to do about it. The doc was already concerned about blood loss during the surgery. ==>, I talked to my sister yesterday - she's a nurse - and she feels your nose bleeds could be caused by stress particularly because of your upcoming surgery, and not necessarily because of thin blood. But we do want to be cautious and not have you taking anything that could thin your blood. In order to alleviate your stress it will help you a lot to do deep breathing exercises on a regular basis before and after your surgery: Start slowly and build up to 15 to 20 repetitions, in 10 to 15 sessions per day per this article: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/breath1.php Let me know how it goes. Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 1. Bloody nose. Pretty much non-stop. > ==>, I talked to my sister yesterday - she's a nurse - and she > feels your nose bleeds could be caused by stress particularly because of your upcoming surgery, and not necessarily because of thin blood. My DH was thinking the same thing. I have to agree that I have been pretty stressed out about this. I was nine years old the last time I was knocked out for surgery. I took an epsom salt bath last night which was very calming. Then did the salt solution cotton balls and put vit e in my nostrils. I slept better last night than I did all week. I even slept in this morning. Just a little bleed this morning, but better than the past days. I am taking time to relax and breathe today. DH is taking me to a movie to take my mind off of things. DH is also going to tell the contractors to not come for a week, so I will have the day before surgery as well as several days after without them kicking up dust. > But we do want to be cautious and not have you taking anything that > could thin your blood. I am only eating recommended foods- heavy on beef because I have been craving it, and will add more spinach and greens as someone suggested. Other than that just digestive enzymes, veg probiotic, rec vits. I plan to pick up Vit K and oil of oregano this afternoon. I have laid off the garlic and VCO until after surgery and I heal a bit. I will avoid taking pain killers if at all possible as I know it can make the bleeding worse. My new mantra- Just Breathe Thank you so much for caring and sharing. I really appreciate it. I'll let you know how it goes. http://kelleygate.blogspot.com 10 weeks 1 day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 I could be wrong, but I thought I read somewhere that nose bleeds can sometimes be related to low iron. Are you possibly anemic? Are you eating lots of red meat which contains iron or are you just eating things like eggs, poultry, fish and avoiding red meat for some reason? Sorry if I'm on the wrong track, just trying to think of something that could explain what is going on. Luv, Debby San , CA --- sk <sk07nh@...> wrote: > 1. Bloody nose. Pretty much non-stop. > > ==>, I talked to my sister yesterday - she's > a nurse - and she > > feels your nose bleeds could be caused by stress > particularly > because of your upcoming surgery, and not > necessarily because of thin > blood. ------------- I have never seen a person grow or change in a constructive direction when motivated by guilt, shame and/or hate. My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 I do have history of anemia. I will bring it up to doc so it can be checked. I eat all meats, but I have been craving beef for many days now. Like today I had ground beef, spinach and eggs for breakfast, leftover ground beef with onions for lunch, and steak tips w/ broccoli for dinner. I don't take an iron supplement. Fitday says I have been getting my RDA of iron, plus my water is well water and very rich in iron on it's own. Still, anything is possible. I will have it checked. Thanks for the suggestion. http://kelleygate.blogspot.com 10 weeks 1 day > I could be wrong, but I thought I read somewhere that > nose bleeds can sometimes be related to low iron. Are > you possibly anemic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 I know this might sound stupid, but is it possible this is some kind of healing reaction? The reason I say this is, something you have expreienced in the past can occur and at times in an even more intense manner in order to heal whatever caused it in the first place (retracing). I did read you've had problems with nose bleeds as a kid and a teen and wonder if this is part of retracing/healing. Just a thought! As I cannot relaly think what you are doing wrong, you are eating the right foods, so is it simply possible you may have to " go with the flow " for a while? (excuse the pun) I realise you can't go on like that, but just wonder how long it may go on for before things may improve..... I know some people have to get their nose cortorised, but yours maybe healing... Anyway, just my two cents worth. . (I don't mean if it goe> I do have history of anemia. I will bring it up to doc so it can be > checked. I eat all meats, but I have been craving beef for many days > now. Like today I had ground beef, spinach and eggs for breakfast, > leftover ground beef with onions for lunch, and steak tips w/ broccoli > for dinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 I started having bloody " noses " always at " that time of the month " out of the blue, like a year ago. Then they stopped all of a sudden. Haven't had one for almost a year. Might have something to do with rising estrogen, that's what was my understanding. No idea why they came but it was pretty freaky. I was relieved when it stopped. Hope this helps somehow. Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 > > I know this might sound stupid, but is it possible this is some kind of healing reaction? The reason I say this is, something you have expreienced in the past can occur and at times in an even more intense manner in order to heal whatever caused it in the first place > (retracing). > > I did read you've had problems with nose bleeds as a kid and a teen and wonder if this is part of retracing/healing. > > Just a thought! As I cannot relaly think what you are doing wrong, you are eating the right foods, so is it simply possible you may have > to " go with the flow " for a while? (excuse the pun) > > I realise you can't go on like that, but just wonder how long it may go on for before things may improve..... I know some people have to get their nose cortorised, but yours maybe healing... ==>, I believe that bleeding can be healing or retracing of previous symptoms too. I've been reading a book that discusses bleeding and how it is very healing, cleansing and isn't something to be terribly scared of, unless of course it depletes the volume of blood in the body to a degree that is dangerous. Not that I believe in " bleeding " like doctors did eons ago. That was totally wrong. But when the body does it on its own it's not a bad thing. I've noticed that bleeding in the intestines isn't as horrible as we are led to believe. For example, if a person has cysts or polyps in their intestines the question is " what response by the body helps heal them? " I believe it could involve some bleeding, which isn't harmful. Blood brought to an area brings more nutrients, along with other immune system substances that heal. Just my 2 cents too! LOL! Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 HI Bee, yeah, I thought it might be healing too. " Retracing " old symptoms, because that lady mentioned how she had problems as a kid and teen with bleeding noses and I hear how some people re-experience some of their past illnesses when they are healing, which I thought might account for why this is happening now and in a more intense manner. I can't think what else it could be, because if someone is doing something right for their body (diet wise), and eliminating the bad, then surely it's logical that the body is then able to start putting things right? I actually hope this is what it is, as that would be a very good thing! But I can see it's important not to think of everything as healing symptoms, in case there is something going on that really does need medical intervention. But I though it might be a possibility. And after what you said, it seems it could be a very good possibility. Thanks for adding your two cents to mine I feel a lot better about my comments now! . > ==>, I believe that bleeding can be healing or retracing of > previous symptoms too. I've been reading a book that discusses > bleeding and how it is very healing, cleansing and isn't something to > be terribly scared of, unless of course it depletes the volume of > blood in the body to a degree that is dangerous. > Just my 2 cents too! LOL! > Bee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Hi all, Just a quick update. Still having bloody noses, but nothing like last week. I have cut out all things suggested, and added Vit K, doing cotton balls in nostrils each night, temporarily gotten rid of contractors, and trying to relax and breathe... Went to have bloodwork done for lap surgery yesterday and they tested for anemia. Not my problem- Thank goodness! Nurse did suggest to cut back on Vit E as it is a blood thinner. I like the healing and retracing concept. It makes sense. The stress is probably part of it too. I will be happy when tomorrow is over! Thanks to everyone. http://kelleygate.blogspot.com 10 weeks 3 days > HI Bee, yeah, I thought it might be healing too. " Retracing " old > symptoms, > ==>, I believe that bleeding can be healing or retracing of > > previous symptoms too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Hi, Since you are craving beef it makes me wonder if there is something in there you are missing like iron. I don't think fitday is very accurate since is shows RDA which may or may not be good information. If you do/did get it checked out please let us know what you found out. Luv, Debby San , CA --- sk <sk07nh@...> wrote: > I do have history of anemia. I will bring it up to > doc so it can be > checked. I eat all meats, but I have been craving > beef for many days > now. Like today I had ground beef, spinach and eggs > for breakfast, > leftover ground beef with onions for lunch, and > steak tips w/ broccoli > for dinner. I don't take an iron supplement. > Fitday says I have been > getting my RDA of iron, plus my water is well water > and very rich in > iron on it's own. Still, anything is possible. I > will have it checked. > Thanks for the suggestion. > http://kelleygate.blogspot.com 10 > weeks 1 day > ------------- I have never seen a person grow or change in a constructive direction when motivated by guilt, shame and/or hate. My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Anybody know about bloody noses? I had them a couple years ago, and it has started back up again.......strange ! DedeDelicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Anybody know about bloody noses? I had them a couple years ago, and it has started back up again.......strange ! DedeDelicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 LOL Ballerina . .. You've got me channeling !I hope you've seen your doctor! . . . Does it stay sore? . . . Have you tried treating it for a fungal problem? i.e. like Lamisil ointment?Hugs,Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 LOL Ballerina . .. You've got me channeling !I hope you've seen your doctor! . . . Does it stay sore? . . . Have you tried treating it for a fungal problem? i.e. like Lamisil ointment?Hugs,Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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