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Dede,

thanks, but I will skip doctors because I am the best doctor along with you girls.lol I think I have the best doctors right here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am gonna hold on for a little and just pray it goes away.

Anyone else have this experience? Many kidney stones? What do ya think?

Love,

In a message dated 1/23/2008 5:24:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, DGRAHAMA@... writes:

Blood in your urine is NEVER normal ! ? ! ? ! ! !

honey, sounds like you need to back off the coffee !

I think you might otta go to your doctor and perhaps

have a urine sample run to be sure you are ok.

Bless your heart, I also sent your note to Patty

privately for you so she would get it quicker, hopefully

Love you, keep us posted ~ Dede

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Dede,

What is chronic renal disease? Did you say to much cranberry can cause kidney stones?

This is the third time I went pee pee and I have blood when I wipe, This is too scarey.

Thanks for the info....

In a message dated 1/23/2008 6:19:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, DGRAHAMA@... writes:

~

I think lay off the coffee for a few days, and

drink 2 oz of 100 % cran a day for a few days.

Too much cran can cause kidney stones.....

so, some but not too much can clear out your

kidneys. I have stage 2 chronic renal disease,

so I am over cautious. Eat some fresh garlic

and keep the water flowing. Your kidneys are

around on your back on either side, right above

your waist. I understand your position

about doctors....... If you get pain in your

uretha, take some azo standard, that will get rid

of the pain. Keep an eye on yourself.

Love Dede

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Hi ,

I haven't experienced that from a coffee enema. Have you ever had a

unrinary tract infection? Maybe that's what it could be and you

could try cranberry juice. Someone else on the forum might know more

than I about what this is and ways to treat. Good luck. I hope it

goes away soon! Love, PH

>

> Hey girls, You to Patty ASAP

> I have been doing coffee enemas and have not got my book yet. But

right

> after my enema this morning my back has been hurting me bad is that

where your

> kidneys are? I have been drinking lots of water and now I have a

little blood

> in my urine this afternoon? Is this normal.? I am doing coffee

enemas every

> other day.

>

> Love

>

>

>

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Patty,

Its the third time I did the enemas. When you take garlic does it seem like your chest is real heavy? Almost like you cant breathe.I think I am starting to get that awful brain fog back again.Because my brain is also starting to feel real heavy also.

In a message dated 1/23/2008 10:43:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, glory2glory1401@... writes:

,Is this the first time you've done coffee enemas?It sounds like you have a kidney infection or something going on that may need some help. I've had kidney infections before that made my back hurt so bad that I did end up going to the emergency room. Twice! It's no fun. Now though, if I ever feel a bladder infection starting up, I head right to the bathroom with a gallon of water and a book and I sit there for hours just peeing as much as I need to when the urge hits with all that water going through me. I also take raw garlic beforehand and drink cranberry juice (unsweetened), along with olive leaf extract and oregano oil....all the anti-bacterials.Blood in the urine is not a good sign, but women who have had implant problems have definitely experienced it, including me. These kidney involvement issues seem fairly common, but you should not let them go unattended when it gets to the point that your back is killing you. It will only get worse and you may need to take an antibiotic.Let me know what happens,Patty>> Hey girls, You to Patty ASAP> I have been doing coffee enemas and have not got my book yet. But right > after my enema this morning my back has been hurting me bad is that where your > kidneys are? I have been drinking lots of water and now I have a little blood > in my urine this afternoon? Is this normal.? I am doing coffee enemas every > other day.> > Love > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

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>

I would STOP those enemas right now!!!! and go to your Doctor

pronto. Doing that many enemas is NOT good for your body and can

really harm it. Your Kidneys sound like they are being affected.

You would definitely have back pain and blood in your urine from

kidney disfunction. I have thyroid problems and blood in your urine

has nothing to do with your thyroid from everything that I know about

thyroid disorders. You can have chronic cystitis with thyroid

problems but only with severe infection do you have bleeding.

Please take care of yourself and see your Doctor or go to your emerg

dept. I am not trying to scare you,but whenever there is blood that

is usually a red flag.

Leanne

> Hey girls, You to Patty ASAP

> I have been doing coffee enemas and have not got my book yet. But

right

> after my enema this morning my back has been hurting me bad is that

where your

> kidneys are? I have been drinking lots of water and now I have a

little blood

> in my urine this afternoon? Is this normal.? I am doing coffee

enemas every

> other day.

>

> Love

>

>

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in

shape.

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?

NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

[Guest guest]

,

Is this the first time you've done coffee enemas?

It sounds like you have a kidney infection or something going on that

may need some help. I've had kidney infections before that made my

back hurt so bad that I did end up going to the emergency room.

Twice! It's no fun.

Now though, if I ever feel a bladder infection starting up, I head

right to the bathroom with a gallon of water and a book and I sit

there for hours just peeing as much as I need to when the urge hits

with all that water going through me. I also take raw garlic

beforehand and drink cranberry juice (unsweetened), along with olive

leaf extract and oregano oil....all the anti-bacterials.

Blood in the urine is not a good sign, but women who have had implant

problems have definitely experienced it, including me. These kidney

involvement issues seem fairly common, but you should not let them go

unattended when it gets to the point that your back is killing you.

It will only get worse and you may need to take an antibiotic.

Let me know what happens,

Patty

>

> Hey girls, You to Patty ASAP

> I have been doing coffee enemas and have not got my book yet. But

right

> after my enema this morning my back has been hurting me bad is that

where your

> kidneys are? I have been drinking lots of water and now I have a

little blood

> in my urine this afternoon? Is this normal.? I am doing coffee

enemas every

> other day.

>

> Love

>

>

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in

shape.

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?

NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

[Guest guest]

Blood in the urine is never normal, but it does sound like the coffee

enemas have stirred up alot of toxins! The secret is to keep drinking

tons of water! And take that raw garlic!

I used to do the coffee enemas every day, so I don't think it's

necessary to back off, but it will depend on how she feels.

Let me know!

Patty

>

> Blood in your urine is NEVER normal ! ? ! ? ! ! !

> honey, sounds like you need to back off the coffee !

> I think you might otta go to your doctor and perhaps

> have a urine sample run to be sure you are ok.

> Bless your heart, I also sent your note to Patty

> privately for you so she would get it quicker, hopefully

> Love you, keep us posted ~ Dede

>

>

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in

shape.

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

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Renal disease is present in some autoimmune conditions, such as lupus.

I never had any bladder of kidney issues before I had implants, but

afterwards, I went through a period of constant bladder irritations,

with two separate incidents about a year or so apart where I actually

ended up in the emergency room in the middle of the night from the

pain.

I also went through a period where my bladder urgency became very

annoying, and to the point that I almost couldn't make it to the

bathroom on time. I nearly pee'd my pants a couple times.

Embarrassing!

Fortunately, that is a thing of the past. But this occurred several

years after explant and lasted for about 2 years....I believe that

this was part of the symptoms of my autoimmune condition that was not

present at the time of explant, but got worse for a period of time

and then got better.

I never have bladder issues anymore.

Patty

>

> Dede,

>

> What is chronic renal disease? Did you say to much cranberry can

cause

> kidney stones?

> This is the third time I went pee pee and I have blood when I

wipe, This is

> too scarey.

>

> Thanks for the info....

>

>

>

> In a message dated 1/23/2008 6:19:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> DGRAHAMA@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> ~

> I think lay off the coffee for a few days, and

> drink 2 oz of 100 % cran a day for a few days.

> Too much cran can cause kidney stones.....

> so, some but not too much can clear out your

> kidneys. I have stage 2 chronic renal disease,

> so I am over cautious. Eat some fresh garlic

> and keep the water flowing. Your kidneys are

> around on your back on either side, right above

> your waist. I understand your position

> about doctors.....ab If you get pain in your

> uretha, take some azo standard, that will get rid

> of the pain. Keep an eye on yourself.

> Love Dede

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________________________________

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>

>

>

>

>

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I had alot of bladder and kidney issues since getting implants. I was diagnosed with Interstitial Cystitis and had two sever kidney infections, one that put me in the hospital for a few days. My doctors also found a "growth" in my right kidney which was blocking flow, and also cuased several stones to form. I had to have them surgically removed because of the blockage. They tested the growth for cancer, it was not. I wonder if it was really a build up of silicone. My IC has been getting better since explant and I currently don't take the expensive medications that I used to take. I still have urgency, which is very embarrassing, but I am glad I don't have to take those meds anymore.glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: Renal disease is present in some autoimmune conditions, such as lupus.I never had any bladder of kidney issues before I had implants, but afterwards, I went through a period of constant bladder irritations, with two separate incidents about a year or so apart where I actually ended up in the emergency room in the middle of the night from the pain. I also went through a period where my bladder urgency became very annoying, and to the point that I almost couldn't make it to the bathroom on time. I nearly pee'd my pants a couple times. Embarrassing!Fortunately, that is a thing of the past. But this occurred several years after explant and lasted for about 2 years....I believe that this was part

of the symptoms of my autoimmune condition that was not present at the time of explant, but got worse for a period of time and then got better.I never have bladder issues anymore.Patty>> Dede,> > What is chronic renal disease? Did you say to much cranberry can cause > kidney stones?> This is the third time I went pee pee and I have blood when I wipe, This is > too scarey.> > Thanks for the info....> > > > In a message dated 1/23/2008 6:19:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > DGRAHAMA@... writes:> > > > > ~> I think lay off the coffee for a few days, and> drink 2 oz of 100 % cran a day for a few days.> Too much cran can cause kidney stones.....>

so, some but not too much can clear out your > kidneys. I have stage 2 chronic renal disease, > so I am over cautious. Eat some fresh garlic> and keep the water flowing. Your kidneys are> around on your back on either side, right above> your waist. I understand your position> about doctors.....ab If you get pain in your > uretha, take some azo standard, that will get rid> of the pain. Keep an eye on yourself. > Love Dede> > > > > > ____________________________________> Start the year off right. _Easy ways to stay in shape_ > (http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489) in the new year. > > > > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. >

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Leanne,

I don't believe the coffee enemas are bad for the body when there is

illness present. In fact, I was just reading to my husband about the

Gerson Therapy, in which they gave up to 5 enemas per day. (I knew

about one per day, but I didn't realize they gave that many!) And

they healed people! Cured them of cancer and other diseases,

including lupus.

I agree though, that needs to see a doctor if the back pain

continues. I've heard about the blood in the urine before...one of

the women that testified at the FDA with me in Washington DC told the

panel that she was peeing blood.....but they never found a cause.

Patty

> >

>

>

>

>

> I would STOP those enemas right now!!!! and go to your

Doctor

> pronto. Doing that many enemas is NOT good for your body and can

> really harm it. Your Kidneys sound like they are being affected.

> You would definitely have back pain and blood in your urine from

> kidney disfunction. I have thyroid problems and blood in your

urine

> has nothing to do with your thyroid from everything that I know

about

> thyroid disorders. You can have chronic cystitis with thyroid

> problems but only with severe infection do you have bleeding.

> Please take care of yourself and see your Doctor or go to your

emerg

> dept. I am not trying to scare you,but whenever there is blood

that

> is usually a red flag.

>

> Leanne

>

[Guest guest]

,

It sounds like you've stirred up some serious toxins in your system

with the kefir, the coffee enemas and the raw garlic. You are still

very toxic. I can only wonder if those scar capsules are part of the

problem now.

Keep detoxing because you obviously need it. But you are going to

have to back off for a bit. Let your body get through these herx's

for a few days or so.

Then pick it back up again. You've got some work to do! But you

know how to judge your body better than anyone so pick your pace that

is comfortable to you.

That stomach swelling is a clear sign that your intestines need some

good flora, so make sure you keep up with the probiotics until you

kill all the bad suckers in there and have a good lining of the good

guys.

Patty

>

> Patty,

> Its the third time I did the enemas. When you take garlic does it

seem like

> your chest is real heavy? Almost like you cant breathe.I think I

am starting

> to get that awful brain fog back again.Because my brain is also

starting to

> feel real heavy also.

>

>

> In a message dated 1/23/2008 10:43:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> glory2glory1401@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> ,

> Is this the first time you've done coffee enemas?

>

> It sounds like you have a kidney infection or something going on

that

> may need some help. I've had kidney infections before that made my

> back hurt so bad that I did end up going to the emergency room.

> Twice! It's no fun.

>

> Now though, if I ever feel a bladder infection starting up, I head

> right to the bathroom with a gallon of water and a book and I sit

> there for hours just peeing as much as I need to when the urge

hits

> with all that water going through me. I also take raw garlic

> beforehand and drink cranberry juice (unsweetened)beforehand and

drink cr

> leaf extract and oregano oil....all the anti-bacterials.

>

> Blood in the urine is not a good sign, but women who have had

implant

> problems have definitely experienced it, including me. These

kidney

> involvement issues seem fairly common, but you should not let them

go

> unattended when it gets to the point that your back is killing

you.

> It will only get worse and you may need to take an antibiotic.

>

> Let me know what happens,

> Patty

>

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> >

> > Hey girls, You to Patty ASAP

> > I have been doing coffee enemas and have not got my book yet.

But

> right

> > after my enema this morning my back has been hurting me bad is

that

> where your

> > kidneys are? I have been drinking lots of water and now I have a

> little blood

> > in my urine this afternoon? Is this normal.? I am doing coffee

> enemas every

> > other day.

> >

> > Love

> >

> >

> >

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