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Why don't you start with a back rub?

Joanne

--- lov2dogs@... wrote:

> In my case, I don't actually find it painful.

> Once I'm involved, I

> enjoy it fairly well. My problem is lack of

> desire. I'd just as

> soon sleep or have a nice back rub.

> My husband always waits for me to initiate.

> I've told him time and

> time again that an outright sexual advance from

> him is the only thing

> that is going to get me going...if he waits for

> me he's gonna wait a

> long time. His problem is he is ULTRA

> sensitive, and if I don't read

> his extremely ambiguous sexual advances

> correctly he feels rejected

> and just won't make them anymore. Plus, he

> always waits until like

> 10 o'clock at night when I am ready to pass

> out. I have a little

> window at about 6 pm where I may feel just the

> slightest bit tingly,

> but he misses it everytime unless I say

> something blatant. And most

> of the time, due to pain or fatigue, I'm just

> not gonna!

>

>

> > Hi Everyone,

> >

> >

> >

> > The reason I'm writing is to ask, Don't some

> of

> > you feel better when you're having sex. I

> mean,

> > I remember that my muscles would relax for

> awhile

> > at least. I'm surprised that some of you

> find it

> > painful.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Why don't you start with a back rub?

Joanne

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I suspect during times of pain.. if she is like

me.. a back rub is where she wants it to end...

sadly .. most guys will give a back rub .. that

lasts just until they think you are starting to

relax and then turn it into something.. or...

they can't press in hard enough to cause any

relaxation... or they can ... but their hands

and arms get tired and they get frustrated

because it seems they aren't getting anywhere..

I've had professional massage therapists.. that I

knew were good.. leave my muscles just as rock

hard as they were to start off with...

Serena

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Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though

for the moment you do not see. Bill W

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Why don't you start with a back rub?

Joanne

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I suspect during times of pain.. if she is like

me.. a back rub is where she wants it to end...

sadly .. most guys will give a back rub .. that

lasts just until they think you are starting to

relax and then turn it into something.. or...

they can't press in hard enough to cause any

relaxation... or they can ... but their hands

and arms get tired and they get frustrated

because it seems they aren't getting anywhere..

I've had professional massage therapists.. that I

knew were good.. leave my muscles just as rock

hard as they were to start off with...

Serena

=====

Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though

for the moment you do not see. Bill W

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Why don't you start with a back rub?

Joanne

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I suspect during times of pain.. if she is like

me.. a back rub is where she wants it to end...

sadly .. most guys will give a back rub .. that

lasts just until they think you are starting to

relax and then turn it into something.. or...

they can't press in hard enough to cause any

relaxation... or they can ... but their hands

and arms get tired and they get frustrated

because it seems they aren't getting anywhere..

I've had professional massage therapists.. that I

knew were good.. leave my muscles just as rock

hard as they were to start off with...

Serena

=====

Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though

for the moment you do not see. Bill W

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Oh my gosh how funny. This is exactly the way it is! My hubby will give me

this nice long relaxing back rub and all I want to do is go into a sleepfull

bliss! OR I will give into him FIRST (with the agreement that he will give me a

backrub after) and HE will go to sleep! Argh! This is so funny.

Sincerely, Pamela Rauch

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Oh my gosh how funny. This is exactly the way it is! My hubby will give me

this nice long relaxing back rub and all I want to do is go into a sleepfull

bliss! OR I will give into him FIRST (with the agreement that he will give me a

backrub after) and HE will go to sleep! Argh! This is so funny.

Sincerely, Pamela Rauch

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Oh my gosh how funny. This is exactly the way it is! My hubby will give me

this nice long relaxing back rub and all I want to do is go into a sleepfull

bliss! OR I will give into him FIRST (with the agreement that he will give me a

backrub after) and HE will go to sleep! Argh! This is so funny.

Sincerely, Pamela Rauch

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Isn't there something that they can do to fix that problem? Can't they sew

the bladder up? I can swear that I watched a show on Discovery Health

Channel, that showed a surgery like that or very similiar.

Rhonda

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> In a message dated 11/21/2001 3:50:22 PM US Eastern Standard Time,

> digitalangel@... writes:

>

>

> > Having sex releases endorphins, your body's natural pain killer.

>

> Gosh too bad it hurts inside...I would make a new meaning for

> Whore!!!..lmaooo sorry I needed a laff...

> Allicia

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In a message dated 11/23/2001 6:56:15 PM US Eastern Standard Time,

zjmom68@... writes:

> Do you

> know what it is like to be made loved to & than have

> your partner say that he is sorry.

Yes I totally understand....its very devistating...

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In a message dated 11/23/2001 8:06:13 PM US Eastern Standard Time,

digitalangel@... writes:

> called Biofreeze

This stuff is awsome..I was introduced to it by the Chiropractor...and yes it

is very good stuff...

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In a message dated 11/23/2001 8:06:13 PM US Eastern Standard Time,

digitalangel@... writes:

> called Biofreeze

This stuff is awsome..I was introduced to it by the Chiropractor...and yes it

is very good stuff...

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My problem is that after we have sex & I need to

strech because my hips are hurting or my back, my

husband always has to say to me that he is sorry. He

feels bad that in order for us to have sex, I have to

end up hurting. I tell him that I am going to hurt

anyway & that I still have needs & that he is not

forcing himself on me, but still he feels bad. Do you

know what it is like to be made loved to & than have

your partner say that he is sorry. Ugh, I have tried

telling him that it is more than worth it, but still I

get the I'm sorry. Oh well, hopefully someday he will

get it or I won't hurt so bad.

Diane

--- Pamela Rauch wrote:

> My husband is the same way. It is so important to

> him, for me to feel the same way about it that he

> does, and if I don't then he feels bad. Actually

> after talking about this for a long time, he is

> getting the idea, but it is a hard one. I try to

> explain that even if I am not neccesarily in the

> " mood " I don't " mind " doing it either, but he won't

> make advances if he thinks I am not in the mood. I

> try to be accomidating in other ways if it is a

> painful day for me, but it has taken sooooo much

> communication between us to be able to get to a

> point where he will make advances, even if I don't

> seem in the mood.

>

> One thing that will always work for me is a Joanna

> book! It is so funny, but when I read one

> of those, I feel so much more in the mood, and my

> husband thinks I am a nut. But he doesn't mind. :)

> Sincerely, Pamela Rauch

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

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