Re: I went to emergency Room Shelly

February 2, 2008

My good friend just had this. She is a member on this forum. I'll see if I can get her to respond to this. I went to emergency Room

Hi Everyone,

I was having another panic attack so My husband took me to the emergency room and they ran some test.

Dx; Pancreatitis Hummmm!!! They say this is why my belly is swelling.

They checked my T4 which was 0.74

TSH ............ ......... ......... .....1.82

Amylase was high........ ......... 150

Protein was high........ ......... ...8.3 I have not been eating meat or now vitamins with this in it HUMMMM!!!

RBC....I think Red blood count Low......... ......... ...4.02 low

LY.......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ...20.3 low

EO%......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ..07 low

BA%......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... .3.8 high

ly%......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ..0.9 low

Can anyone read these test. They told me to follow up with a doctor. I started taking b-12 again since my blood count was low.

Any other suggestions if you can help me?????????? ???

I love you girls keep praying for me. ............. ........Sehlly

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February 2, 2008

Hi ,

Sorry to hear of your ER visit. That must have been scary! If you

haven't found a good ND, I'd consider finding one who can discuss

this with you. Also, if you haven't called Dr. Kolb or emailed her,

www.plastikos.com , she could talk to you about your capsules. I

don't know much about the blood work, but I did look up pancreatitis

and here's what I found: -- (I wouldn't do the soybeans though as

they're not good for thyroid.) Hang in there, . We're all

praying for you! Love, PH

Complementary and Alternative Therapies

A number of studies have explored the role of oxidative stress in

pancreatitis. Oxidative stress results from the production of free

radicals, which are by-products of metabolism that are harmful to

cells in the body. Several ways to neutralize these deleterious

effects have evolved over time. Antioxidants, for example, help rid

the body of free radicals. Insufficient antioxidant levels in the

blood (including reduced amounts of vitamin A, vitamin E, selenium,

and carotenoids), though, may lead to chronic pancreatitis due to the

destructive effects of increased free radical activity. Antioxidant

deficiency and the risk of developing pancreatitis may be

particularly relevant in areas of the world with low soil

concentrations or low dietary intake of antioxidants. In addition,

the cooking and processing of foods may destroy antioxidants. Alcohol-

induced pancreatitis is linked to low levels of antioxidants as well.

There is also some evidence that antioxidant supplements may

eliminate or minimize oxidative stress and help alleviate pain from

chronic pancreatitis.

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Nutrition

As explained, low levels of antioxidants in the blood may make an

individual more prone to develop pancreatitis; at the same time,

someone who already has pancreatitis is more likely to develop

deficiencies of the following nutrients:

Magnesium – particularly in the case of chronic alcoholism

Methionine

Selenium

Vitamin A

Vitamin C

Vitamin E

Some studies do suggest that taking these nutrients mentioned,

particularly the latter five each of which has antioxidant

properties, can reduce the pain from which people with pancreatitis

suffer and recover more readily from the condition. Other potentially

valuable supplements to take include:

Vitamin B12; levels may be low with pancreatitis; works best in this

case if given by injection.

Soybeans; extracts of soybeans known as polyunsaturated

phosphatidylcholines (PCs) work as antioxidants and have demonstrated

prevention of damage to the pancreas in animal studies.

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Herbs

Emblica officinalis (Indian gooseberry) is a traditional Ayurvedic

medicinal plant used to treat pancreatic disorders. It is the richest

natural source of vitamin C. Animal studies further suggest that this

herb can be used to prevent development of pancreatitis.

Individual case reports suggest that traditional Chinese medicines

are effective for the prevention and treatment of pancreatitis

including the following which are also used commonly as both Western

and Ayurvedic treatments of gastrointestinal disorders:

Licorice root (Glycyrrhiza glabra)

Ginger root (Zingiber officinale)

Asian ginseng (Panax ginseng),

Peony root(Paeonia officinalis)

Cinnamon Chinese bark (Cinnamomum verum)

Animal studies further suggest the value of using these herbs in

combination along with the following herbs:

Bupleurum (Bupleri falcatum L)

Pinelliae tuber (Pinelliae ternata)

Chinese skullcap (Scutellariae baicalensis)

Jujube (Zizyphi jujuba)

To determine the regimen for each individual, it is best to see a

skilled herbalist or licensed and certified practitioner of

traditional Chinese medicine, particularly because these herbs often

work best in combination.

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Acupuncture

The value of acupuncture for treating pancreatitis is controversial.

There are case reports stating that acupuncture has helped relieve

pain from pancreatitis and pancreatic cancer. But a review of several

studies finds that results of acupuncture and electroacupuncture

(small electrical currents applied through acupuncture needles) for

pancreatitis are mixed with some concluding that there is no benefit

with the addition of either of these modalities for people with

pancreatitis.

http://www.healthandage.com/html/res/com/ConsConditions/Pancreatitiscc

..html#Alternative

>

> My good friend just had this. She is a member on this forum. I'll

see if I can get her to respond to this.

>

> I went to emergency Room

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I was having another panic attack so My husband took me to the

emergency

> room and they ran some test.

>

> Dx; Pancreatitis Hummmm!!! They say this is

> why my belly is swelling.

>

> They checked my T4 which was 0.74

>

> TSH ............ ......... ......... .....1.82

>

> Amylase was high........ ......... 150

>

> Protein was high........ ......... ...8.3 I have not been eating

> meat or now vitamins with this in it HUMMMM!!!

>

> RBC....I think Red blood count Low......... ......... ...4.02 low

>

LY.......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... .......

... ...20.3

> low

>

EO%......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... .......

... ..07

> low

>

BA%......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... .......

... .3.8

> high

>

ly%......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... .......

... ..0.9

> low

>

> Can anyone read these test. They told me to follow up with a

> doctor. I started taking b-12 again since my blood count was low.

>

> Any other suggestions if you can help me?????????? ???

>

> I love you girls keep praying for me.

> ............. ........Sehlly

>

> Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL

Music.

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February 3, 2008

Rogene,

Should I be taking some digestive enzymes with my meals? Do you think that will help with my swelling. Everybody here has been taking the snot out of probiotics and All I take is 4 a day of Primal Defense.

Your right I cant wait to get them toxic capsules out. I think this is the year of healing for me. Oh yeh............Is it OK when I do this liver flush that Patty did that I could take my probiotics with it. The directions say no to take supplements!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am stuck on that one.

Thanks, LOVE

In a message dated 2/3/2008 8:38:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, saxony01@... writes:

,

You're close to getting those capsules out . . .

Chances are good those test results will start improving soon after explant.

For the time being, I'd concentrate on thinking positive about your capsulectomy and quit worrying about other things . . .

They've found your body chemistry can change quickly, depending on your state of mind. . . Testing when you're having a panic attack isn't going to give you a good measure of what's going on.

Hugs,

Rogene

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February 4, 2008

,

You're close to getting those capsules out . . .

Chances are good those test results will start improving soon after explant.

For the time being, I'd concentrate on thinking positive about your capsulectomy and quit worrying about other things . . .

They've found your body chemistry can change quickly, depending on your state of mind. . . Testing when you're having a panic attack isn't going to give you a good measure of what's going on.

Hugs,

Rogene

February 4, 2008

Hi ,

I take digestive enzymes before each meal to help break down the

food. Some people take them in between meals and others after

meals. I truly don't know the best time because everything I've read

seems to conflict.

As far as the liver flush, I just did my 4th one last night/today. I

always skip all my supplements, including probiotics. Definitely

follow the protocol to a T time-wise. It says not to eat or drink

after 2. Well I ate lunch at 2:15 thinking 15 minutes won't make a

difference. It does!! I was soooo sick I thought I was going to

vomit all night long. Love, PH

>

> Rogene,

>

> Should I be taking some digestive enzymes with my meals? Do you

think that

> will help with my swelling. Everybody here has been taking the

snot out of

> probiotics and All I take is 4 a day of Primal Defense.

>

> Your right I cant wait to get them toxic capsules out. I think

this is the

> year of healing for me. Oh yeh............Is it OK when I do this

liver flush

> that Patty did that I could take my probiotics with it. The

directions say no

> to take supplements!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am stuck on that one.

>

> Thanks, LOVE

>

> In a message dated 2/3/2008 8:38:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> saxony01@... writes:

>

> ,

>

> You're close to getting those capsules out . . .

>

> Chances are good those test results will start improving soon

after explant.

>

> For the time being, I'd concentrate on thinking positive about

your

> capsulectomy and quit worrying about other things . . .

>

> They've found your body chemistry can change quickly, depending on

your

> state of mind. . . Testing when you're having a panic attack isn't

going to give

> you a good measure of what's going on.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

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February 4, 2008

,

I'd give digestive enzymes a try and see if they help . .. You may want to experiment with when you use them . . . If they help, that's great.

Anything you take with the liver flush will be wasted . . . The time for probiotics is after the flush, not before, or with it.

You may want to work up to eight Primal Defense a day . . . but, since you still have your capsules, all you can hope to do is to tread water right now. . . . You may want to experiment to see how you feel - then go by that.

Everyone is different. . . You'll find that, as time goes by, you'll be comfortable adjusting supplements to how YOU feel. . . Just learn to listen to your body. . . It will tell you!

Hugs,

Rogene

February 4, 2008

Ph,

Thanks for the tip I think 15 minutes wouldn't have affected it but if it did you than I wont even try. I am going to start enzymes than right after my flush. Do you take Magnesuim Citrate in place of the epsom salt like Patty did???????????? I plan on doing the liver flush today but I already took my probiotics this morning. Well I am gonna have to go for it.

In a message dated 2/3/2008 11:10:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, perfecthealth68@... writes:

Hi ,I take digestive enzymes before each meal to help break down the food. Some people take them in between meals and others after meals. I truly don't know the best time because everything I've read seems to conflict.As far as the liver flush, I just did my 4th one last night/today. I always skip all my supplements, including probiotics. Definitely follow the protocol to a T time-wise. It says not to eat or drink after 2. Well I ate lunch at 2:15 thinking 15 minutes won't make a difference. It does!! I was soooo sick I thought I was going to vomit all night long. Love, PH>> Rogene,> > Should I be taking some digestive enzymes with my meals? Do you think that > will help with my swelling. Everybody here has been taking the snot out of > probiotics and All I take is 4 a day of Primal Defense.> > Your right I cant wait to get them toxic capsules out. I think this is the > year of healing for me. Oh yeh............Is it OK when I do this liver flush > that Patty did that I could take my probiotics with it. The directions say no > to take supplements!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am stuck on that one.> > Thanks, LOVE > > > In a message dated 2/3/2008 8:38:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > saxony01@... writes:> > > > > > ,> > You're close to getting those capsules out . . . > > Chances are good those test results will start improving soon after explant. > > For the time being, I'd concentrate on thinking positive about your > capsulectomy and quit worrying about other things . . . > > They've found your body chemistry can change quickly, depending on your > state of mind. . . Testing when you're having a panic attack isn't going to give > you a good measure of what's going on.> > Hugs,> > Rogene> > > > > > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025> 48)> Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music.

February 4, 2008

Ph,

Thanks for the encouragement!!!!! How often can we do these liver flushes? Do you know? I'll stick to juicing apples and eating apples today for the flush thanks for the tip.

Hope you are feeling better

In a message dated 2/4/2008 11:09:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, perfecthealth68@... writes:

Hi ,No, I haven't tried the Magnesium Citrate. I should as Patty says it tastes a little better than the epsom salts...that's the roughest part is just getting the drinks down. The rest is easy and you will feel better, especially the day after. I wouldn't worry about the probiotics. Just make sure you don't eat anything w/ fat in it today or take any more supplements. Follow the advice for breakfast and lunch. Good luck with it all! Love, PH>> Ph,> > Thanks for the tip I think 15 minutes wouldn't have affected it but if it > did you than I wont even try. I am going to start enzymes than right after my > flush. Do you take Magnesuim Citrate in place of the epsom salt like Patty > did???????????? I plan on doing the liver flush today but I already took my > probiotics this morning. Well I am gonna have to go for it.> > > > > In a message dated 2/3/2008 11:10:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > perfecthealth68@... writes:> > > > > Hi ,> I take digestive enzymes before each meal to help break down the > food. Some people take them in between meals and others after > meals. I truly don't know the best time because everything I've read > seems to conflict.> > As far as the liver flush, I just did my 4th one last night/today. I > always skip all my supplements, including probiotics. Definitely > follow the protocol to a T time-wise. It says not to eat or drink > after 2. Well I ate lunch at 2:15 thinking 15 minutes won't make a > difference. It does!! I was soooo sick I thought I was going to > vomit all night long. Love, PH> > --- In _ @SalineSupporSal_ (mailto: ) > , shellyjo1021@, shel> >> > Rogene,> > > > Should I be taking some digestive enzymes with my meals? Do you > think that > > will help with my swelling. Everybody here has been taking the > snot out of > > probiotics and All I take is 4 a day of Primal Defense.> > > > Your right I cant wait to get them toxic capsules out. I think > this is the > > year of healing for me. Oh yeh......... year of healing for me. Oh yeh> liver flush > > that Patty did that I could take my probiotics with it. The > directions say no > > to take supplements! to take to take supplements!<WB> > > > Thanks, LOVE > > > > > > In a message dated 2/3/2008 8:38:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > saxony01@ writes:> > > > > > > > > > > > ,> > > > You're close to getting those capsules out . . . > > > > Chances are good those test results will start improving soon > after explant. > > > > For the time being, I'd concentrate on thinking positive about > your > > capsulectomy and quit worrying about other things . . . > > > > They've found your body chemistry can change quickly, depending on > your > > state of mind. . . Testing when you're having a panic attack isn't > going to give > > you a good measure of what's going on.> > > > Hugs,> > > > Rogene> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises o> Music. > > (_http://music.http://music.<WBhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_ > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?) > NCID=aolcmp00300000NCID> > 48)> >> > > > > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025> 48)> Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music.

February 4, 2008

My friend's sister works in the UK and is a lab technician: she tests blood. Here is what she wrote back to my friend about this:

"I have had a look at those test results and I think there is a thyroid problem and also allergy. It depends on what units they are reported in but here is what we do.

FT4 Thyroxine 10.3-24.5 pmol/L

TSH 0.4-4.0 mU/L

If the units are the same this girl has no thyroxine and needs treatement at 0.74 but even if the units are not the same and the reference range the same then it is still low. You can get a high amylase also if there is backpressure anywhere in the liver area eg a tumor.

As for the protein it is a little high. It does depend on the ratio of albumin to globulin which makes up the total protein and if the globulin is raised or there is a band in the electrophoresis strip this may be an immune disease- an example is myeloma.

The basophil count was very high and we have recently seen a basophil leukaemia which is very rare indeed. It is worth more of an investigation as all these things may be linked.

The low red cells suggests a spleen problem with lack of red cell production or anaemia caused by maemotological disorder. I would refer this to a haematologist for sure. No good self treating with B12 and not finding out if it is pernicious anaemia.

Hope that helps. Let me know if you ever find out."

I hope this wasn't too shocking. I felt weird typing it. (my friend gave me a printout of her sister's email, so I had to re-type it) Maybe it's one more thing to show your doctor as a reference point to have him/her discuss each point?

-Ballerina

I went to emergency Room

Hi Everyone,

I was having another panic attack so My husband took me to the emergency room and they ran some test.

Dx; Pancreatitis Hummmm!!! They say this is why my belly is swelling.

They checked my T4 which was 0.74

TSH ............ ......... ......... .....1.82

Amylase was high........ ......... 150

Protein was high........ ......... ...8.3 I have not been eating meat or now vitamins with this in it HUMMMM!!!

RBC....I think Red blood count Low......... ......... ...4.02 low

LY.......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ...20.3 low

EO%......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ..07 low

BA%......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... .3.8 high

ly%......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ..0.9 low

Can anyone read these test. They told me to follow up with a doctor. I started taking b-12 again since my blood count was low.

Any other suggestions if you can help me?????????? ???

I love you girls keep praying for me. ............ ........Sehlly

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February 4, 2008

Hi ,

No, I haven't tried the Magnesium Citrate. I should as Patty says it

tastes a little better than the epsom salts...that's the roughest

part is just getting the drinks down. The rest is easy and you will

feel better, especially the day after.

I wouldn't worry about the probiotics. Just make sure you don't eat

anything w/ fat in it today or take any more supplements. Follow the

advice for breakfast and lunch. Good luck with it all! Love, PH

>

> Ph,

>

> Thanks for the tip I think 15 minutes wouldn't have affected it

but if it

> did you than I wont even try. I am going to start enzymes than

right after my

> flush. Do you take Magnesuim Citrate in place of the epsom salt

like Patty

> did???????????? I plan on doing the liver flush today but I

already took my

> probiotics this morning. Well I am gonna have to go for it.

>

> In a message dated 2/3/2008 11:10:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> perfecthealth68@... writes:

>

> Hi ,

> I take digestive enzymes before each meal to help break down the

> food. Some people take them in between meals and others after

> meals. I truly don't know the best time because everything I've

read

> seems to conflict.

>

> As far as the liver flush, I just did my 4th one last night/today.

I

> always skip all my supplements, including probiotics. Definitely

> follow the protocol to a T time-wise. It says not to eat or drink

> after 2. Well I ate lunch at 2:15 thinking 15 minutes won't make a

> difference. It does!! I was soooo sick I thought I was going to

> vomit all night long. Love, PH

>

> --- In _ @SalineSupporSal_

(mailto: )

> , shellyjo1021@, shel

> >

> > Rogene,

> >

> > Should I be taking some digestive enzymes with my meals? Do you

> think that

> > will help with my swelling. Everybody here has been taking the

> snot out of

> > probiotics and All I take is 4 a day of Primal Defense.

> >

> > Your right I cant wait to get them toxic capsules out. I think

> this is the

> > year of healing for me. Oh yeh......... year of healing for me.

Oh yeh

> liver flush

> > that Patty did that I could take my probiotics with it. The

> directions say no

> > to take supplements! to take to take supplements!<WB

> >

> > Thanks, LOVE

> >

> > In a message dated 2/3/2008 8:38:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> > saxony01@ writes:

> >

> > ,

> >

> > You're close to getting those capsules out . . .

> >

> > Chances are good those test results will start improving soon

> after explant.

> >

> > For the time being, I'd concentrate on thinking positive about

> your

> > capsulectomy and quit worrying about other things . . .

> >

> > They've found your body chemistry can change quickly, depending

on

> your

> > state of mind. . . Testing when you're having a panic attack

isn't

> going to give

> > you a good measure of what's going on.

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> > ************ **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises o

> Music.

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> (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?)

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February 4, 2008

Ph,

I am having trouble sleeping on my back because of the pressure is so great......Does this happen to you and What do you do about it?

In a message dated 2/4/2008 9:51:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, perfecthealth68@... writes:

You're too funny !! Love, PH>> Ph,> Why are you saying good luck tonight am I missing something? I dont have to > expect anything in my bed .......that will make it halftime while playing > fart football..............Right?> > LOL, > > > In a message dated 2/4/2008 9:36:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > perfecthealth68@... writes:> > > > > Hi ,> Yes, the stones float on top of the water. It's scary, amazing and > disgusting at the same time!! > Everyone has stones though. The stones are made up of cholesteral > crystals and in the very center is dead bacteria and parasites. > No, I don't think the implants directly cause stones but indirectly > they do because w/ them you are more prone to bacteria and parasites.> Yeah, the tenderness of your liver might be from the pressure that > forces the stones to move to the front so don't worry about that. > Good luck tonight!! Love, PH> > --- In _ @SalineSupporSal_ (mailto: ) > , shellyjo1021@, shel> >> > Ph,> > > > You actually see stones in your stool. This is scarey!!!!!! You act> I have a > > lot of pressure on my liver tonight is this stones? Do the > implants cause the > > stones ......thanks for the warning.> > > > Just knowing that I think I will do another one in 2 weeks. I > always did > > liver cleansing but never saw stones. I usually did Dr Schultz > > ...........somethin ...........somethin> > > > Maybe they werent as affected as these. I got that Magnesium > Citrate at > > Krogers that isnt so bad to drink which replaces the Epsom salt > that you did, > > but I got the lemon flavor because the cherry flavor had dyes#3 in > it. > > > > I will try to sleep tonight..... I will try to> > > > > > In a message dated 2/4/2008 8:43:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > perfecthealth68@ perfecthealth6> > > > > > > > > > Hi ,> > I was doing the liver flushes monthly but I seem to feel so much > > better after doing them that I'm going to do them every 2 > weeks...as > > long as I can handle it. Then I'll probably do them monthly and > once > > I'm well, seasonally. I've read you shouldn't do them more than 2 > > weeks unless you feel like you have a blocked stone...then you can > do > > another flush right away. > > > > It's all so individual though. Just go by how you feel. If you > > don't release a ton of stones during a flush, don't be alarmed or > > think your liver doesn't need a good cleaning. Some people don't > > release until several flushes later. My first 3 were very > > successful. This last one though I only passed maybe 5 stones. Hang > > in there tonight! Love, PH> > > > --- In _ @ --- In _SalineSu> (mailto:_ @SalineSupporSal_ > (mailto: ) ) > > , shellyjo1021@ , she> > >> > > Ph,> > > > > > Thanks for the encouragement! Thanks for the encouragement!<WB> > flushes? > > > Do you know? I'll stick to juicing apples and eating apples > today > > for the > > > flush thanks for the tip.> > > > > > Hope you are feeling better> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/4/2008 11:09:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > > perfecthealth68@ perfec> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi ,> > > No, I haven't tried the Magnesium Citrate. I should as Patty > says > > it > > > tastes a little better than the epsom salts...that' tastes a > little> > bet> > > part is just getting the drinks down. The rest is easy and you > > will > > > feel better, especially the day after. > > > I wouldn't worry about the probiotics. Just make sure you don't > > eat > > > anything w/ fat in it today or take any more supplements. Follow > > the > > > advice for breakfast and lunch. Good luck with it all! Love, PH> > > > > > --- In _ @ --- In _Sali> > (mailto:_SalineSupp (mailto:_Saline (mai> > (mailto:_ @SalineSupporSal_ > (mailto: ) ) ) > > > , shellyjo1021@ , she> > > >> > > > Ph,> > > > > > > > Thanks for the tip I think 15 minutes wouldn't have affected > it > > > but if it > > > > did you than I wont even try. I am going to start enzymes than > > > right after my > > > > flush. Do you take Magnesuim Citrate in place of the epsom > salt > > > like Patty > > > > did????????? did???????????? I plan on doing the liver > flus> > > already took my > > > > probiotics this morning. Well I am gonna have to go for it.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/3/2008 11:10:23 P.M. Eastern Standard > Time, > > > > perfecthealth68@ perfec> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi ,> > > > I take digestive enzymes before each meal to help break down > the > > > > food. Some people take them in between meals and others after > > > > meals. I truly don't know the best time because everything > I've > > > read > > > > seems to conflict.> > > > > > > > As far as the liver flush, I just did my 4th one last > > night/today. > > > I > > > > always skip all my supplements, including probiotics. > Definitely > > > > follow the protocol to a T time-wise. It says not to eat or > > drink > > > > after 2. Well I ate lunch at 2:15 thinking 15 minutes won't > make > > a > > > > difference. It does!! I was soooo sick I thought I was going > to > > > > vomit all night long. Love, PH> > > > > > > > --- In _ @ --- In _SalineSu> > > (mailto:_SalineSupp (mailto:_Sa > > > (mailto:_SalineSupp (mailto:_Sa > > (mailto:_ @SalineSupporSal_ > (mailto: ) ) ) ) > > > > , shellyjo1021@ , she> > > > >> > > > > Rogene,> > > > > > > > > > Should I be taking some digestive enzymes with my meals? Do > > you > > > > think that > > > > > will help with my swelling. Everybody here has been taking > the > > > > snot out of > > > > > probiotics and All I take is 4 a day of Primal Defense.> > > > > > > > > > Your right I cant wait to get them toxic capsules out. I > think > > > > this is the > > > > > year of healing for me. Oh yeh......... year of healing for > > me. > > > Oh yeh> > > > liver flush > > > > > that Patty did that I could take my probiotics with it. The > > > > directions say no > > > > > to take supplements! to take to take supplements!<WB> > > > > > > > > > Thanks, LOVE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/3/2008 8:38:20 P.M. Eastern Standard > > Time, > > > > > saxony01@ writes:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ,> > > > > > > > > > You're close to getting those capsules out . . . > > > > > > > > > > Chances are good those test results will start improving > soon > > > > after explant. > > > > > > > > > > For the time being, I'd concentrate on thinking positive > about > > > > your > > > > > capsulectomy and quit worrying about other things . . . > > > > > > > > > > They've found your body chemistry can change quickly, > > depending > > > on > > > > your > > > > > state of mind. . . 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February 4, 2008

Dede,

I am so glad your amused!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I cant wait til its your turn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL

I have so much pressure I am hopeing its not halftime and just fart football. What do ya do when the pressures so great doing this liver flush and you cant lay on your back.

I feel like it is a football coming out. Praise God I wish it would just get the pressure off and get to football game. LOLOLOL

I love ya girls, hey it would not be fun around here if I took this serious all the time...But no lie the pressure is very great.

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In a message dated 2/4/2008 9:46:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, DGRAHAMA@... writes:

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Now I am rolling around on the floor

laughing my entire bum off ! ! That is

priceless ! !

Touchdown ! Yeah ~

Loveya ~ Dede

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