Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Hi steph, It is pill form whole food of course and its buffered so its safe to use. I dont like tasting all those nasty drops...so I use pill form whenever I can. In a message dated 2/6/2008 7:47:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, stephie0580@... writes: Thanks for the idea. How does the vitamin C taste that Garden of Life makes? It's it a pill form or a vitamin C drops? I'll have to go to Whole Foods today to check it out.Steph>> Oh Steph,> Get lots of rest and dont worry about the cheeks. I juice fresh oranges and > take buffer vitamin c which Garden of LIfe makes is great.Take extras and > you will get over it a lot quicker.> > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 2:31:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > stephie0580@... writes:> > > > > Yes, the only thing that came back positive was mono. So that > explains the fatigue I've been having. Like I needed something else!!!> > Steph> > --- In _ @SalineSupporSal_ (mailto: ) > , shellyjo1021@, shel> >> > Hi Steph,> > > > I know its hard not to worry but if your not ANA + than try other > approaches > > like detox. You already went with the approach of seeing the > doctor and no > > results .......I like to see you get better without spending lots > of money > > like I did. Did they check other things in your blood besides > lupus?> > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 2:20:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > stephie0580@ stephie058> > > > > > > > > > I guess I worried that maybe in time it will become positive so I > > just want to ask him some questions and get his opinon. I'm not > sure > > if I'm anemic or what the redness on my cheeks is from.> > > > Steph> > > > --- In _ @ --- In _Sali> (mailto:_ @SalineSupporSal_ > (mailto: ) ) > > , shellyjo1021@ , she> > >> > > Hi Steph,> > > That is great news........ That is great news........> > > ............ ............<WBR>........<WBR>but having all t> > help either. Do you have hot > > > flashes is that why your cheeks are flushed or are you enemic > low > > red blood > > > cells. Fibromyalasis also gives muscles acles. Or this can be > > simply toxins > > > coming out of your muscles..... coming out of your coming o> > > Why are you seeing a Rhemy if you have no immune disease I > wouldn't > > waste my > > > money on doctors just detoxes!!!!! mone > > > > > > I love ya, ... > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 1:28:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > > stephie0580@ stephie0580@<W> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm having occasional muscle aches so I'm seeing a rhemy > tomorrow. > > > I've already had 2 ANA blood tests and they've been negative. > > > Sometimes my cheeks also looked flushed so I'll see what he has > > to > > > say.> > > > > > Steph> > > > > > --- In _ @ --- In _SalineSuppor> > (mailto:_SalineSupp (mailto:_Saline (mailto:> > (mailto:_ @SalineSupporSal_ > (mailto: ) ) ) > > > , shellyjo1021@ , she> > > >> > > > Steph,> > > > I had a positive ANA and they had me on a malaria drug called > > > Plaquenil for > > > > 6 months and I stopped going to my rheumy and gave up on all > > meds > > > and decided > > > > I would detox this disease myself and God .....Praise God with > > all > > > the > > > > detoxing I have done I havent had a break out yet . I could > not > > go > > > in the sun it > > > > broke me out, I had achey joints, little weight gain, swelling > > in > > > hands and > > > > feet. Coffee Enemas are good for this disease and liver > > detoxing. > > > Dr. Colberts > > > > book says water fasting will get rid of it. I like the Coffee > > > enemas better.> > > > > > > > > > > > P.s. I would even get sores in my mouth. YUCK!!!!!!!! P.s. > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 1:12:04 P.M. Eastern Standard > Time, > > > > stephie0580@ stephie0580@<W> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi , What lupus symptoms did you have? Did you have a > > > positive > > > > or a negative ANA?> > > > > > > > Steph> > > > > > > > --- In _ @ --- In _Sali> > > (mailto:_SalineSupp (mailto:_Sa > > > (mailto:_SalineSupp (mailto:_Saline (mailto:> > (mailto:_ @SalineSupporSal_ > (mailto: ) ) ) ) > > > > , shellyjo1021@ , she> > > > >> > > > > To Sept 05 Implants,> > > > > > > > > > Yes the implants are your problem ..........I had my > implants > > > put > > > > in Nov 04 > > > > > and I had systems were adding on weekly .........Diagnosed > > with > > > > Lupus as > > > > > well. Then in 6 months time I became very fatigued and then > it > > > > became > > > > > worse......like a nightmare. I knew it was my implants > because > > > of > > > > the girls on the > > > > > forum here. I had them removed in 05 and I am still sick > > because > > > I > > > > didn't have > > > > > proper explant---meaning I did not get them out right. When > > you > > > get > > > > the > > > > > implants out make sure they do a capsulectomy ---meaning the > > > > implants are inside a > > > > > capsule your body has formed...... capsule your body has form> > > > > (implant)inside your body. Most of the girls here had proper > > > > explant but me I am still > > > > > sick because of the capsules are still in me. I am going to > > have > > > to > > > > go through > > > > > another surgery.> > > > > > > > > > You came to the right place to get better...... You came to > > the > > > > RockHard > > > > > BOOBs out of you ASAP. Otherwise you will end up sicker and > > > sicker > > > > and then it > > > > > can lead to death like some of us that was here!!!!!!!! can > > > > > The FDA has lied about our safety of these implants it > doesn't > > > > matter what > > > > > kind you have saline or silicone, smooth or textured > implants > > > > > ............ ............<WBR>..They are all full of > poisons > > and m> > > > paying for it > > > > > now......... now.........<WBR>........<WBR><WBR>..Because > Doctors> > cove> > > > Surgeons are not out of a job. > > > > > Its all about the MONEY in AMERICA.> > > > > Some girls were so sick they were in wheel chairs and I was > > bed > > > > ridden for a > > > > > year and half........ year and half........<WBR>...These > > implant> > > > little.....I > > > > > am doing a whole lots better thanks to everyone here. I > > continue > > > to > > > > get my > > > > > life back little by little. Some girls recover quickly and > > most > > > > of us it takes > > > > > time with lots of detoxing the poisons out of our bodies. > But > > we > > > > will get > > > > > into all of that........ into all of > > that........<WBR>...Right > > > now you > > > > en bloc and > > > > > Capsulectomy ........Most doctors dont do this so emphasize > > what > > > > you want > > > > > done.> > > > > > > > > > We are here to help and support you anytime> > > > > Love ........... age 39 now> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 12:43:08 P.M. Eastern Standard > > Time, > > > > > Stottlemyer71@ Stottlemye> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i had saline implants placed sept05 without any problems. > now > > > > since > > > > > july07 i started with joint pain,tenderness, facial,hands, > > > july07 i> > > > started w> > > > > and redness. at first, i thought maybe it was an aspartame > > > allergy > > > > and > > > > > quit anything with that in it but nothing changed. my mom > has > > > > rheumatod > > > > > arthritis and i went to see the same rheumatologist and have > > had > > > > lots > > > > > of bloodwork. my ana was positive, c-reactive protein high. > he > > > has > > > > > diagnosed me with atypical lupus. i started on plaquenil in > > the > > > > fall > > > > > and now i am starting imuran-an immunosuppressant drug. > last > > > week > > > > my > > > > > left hand got so swollen that i had to have my wedding ring > > cut > > > > off. > > > > > since then, i am also on prednisone for 3 weeks. i have been > > > > racking my > > > > > brain about what all this could be. my labs remain negative > > > except > > > > an > > > > > elevated sed rate. a friend brought to my attention the > > > possibility > > > > of > > > > > the saline implants. can someone give their thoughts of > this? > > i > > > > have > > > > > been researching today and all of my symptoms are those of > the > > > > saline > > > > > implants.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**Biggest Grammy Award > surprises > > of > > > al> > > > Music. > > > > > (____http://music.http://musi_ (http://music.http//mus_) > (_http://music.http://mu_ (http://music.p//music.) ) <WB_ > > (__http://music.http://music._ (http://music.http//music_) > (_http://music.http://music_ (http://music.http//music.) ) ) > > > <___WBhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://WBhttp:/_ > (wbhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://WBhttp:_) > (_wbhttp://muhttp:wbhttp://wbhttp:_ (wbhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://mWBhtt_) ) > > (__wbhttp://muhttp:wbhttp://wbhttp:_ (wbhttp://muhttp:wbhttp://mwbhtt_) > (_wbhttp://muhttp:wbhttp://mwbhtt_ (wbhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_) ) ) > > > > (___http://music.http://music.h_ (http://music.http//music._) > (_http://music.http://music_ (http://music.http//music.) ) > > <__WBhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://WBhttp:_ (wbhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://mWBhtt_) > (_wbhttp://muhttp:wbhttp://mwbhtt_ (wbhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_) ) > > > (__http://music.http://music._ (http://music.http//music.) > <_WBhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://mWBhtt_ (wbhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_) > > (_http://music.http://music.<WBhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_ > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?) ) ) ) > > > > NCID=aolcmp00300000 NCI> > > > > 48)> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**Biggest Grammy Award surprises > o> > > Music. > > > > (___http://music.http://music.h_ (http://music.http//music._) > (_http://music.http://music_ (http://music.http//music.) ) > > <__WBhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://WBhttp:_ (wbhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://mWBhtt_) > (_wbhttp://muhttp:wbhttp://mwbhtt_ (wbhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_) ) > > > (__http://music.http://music._ (http://music.http//music.) > <_WBhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://mWBhtt_ (wbhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_) > > (_http://music.http://music.<WBhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_ > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?) ) ) > > > NCID=aolcmp00300000 NCI> > > > 48)> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**Biggest Grammy Award surprises o> > Music. > > > (__http://music.http://music._ (http://music.http//music.) > <_WBhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://mWBhtt_ (wbhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_) > > (_http://music.http://music.<WBhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_ > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?) ) > > NCID=aolcmp00300000 NCI> > > 48)> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**Biggest Grammy Award surprises o> Music. > > (_http://music.http://music.<WBhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_ > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?) > NCID=aolcmp00300000NCID> > 48)> >> > > > > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025> 48)> Who's never won? 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Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Steph, I take garden of life products also......I just started taking them and they seem to be working for me. try it ...... In a message dated 2/6/2008 7:45:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, stephie0580@... writes: Hi , I take Garden of Life probiotics. Do their digestive enzymes work good for you?Steph> > >> > > Hi Steph,> > > > > > I know its hard not to worry but if your not ANA + than try > other > > approaches > > > like detox. You already went with the approach of seeing the > > doctor and no > > > results .......I like to see you get better without spending lots > > of money > > > like I did. Did they check other things in your blood besides > > lupus?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 2:20:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > > stephie0580@ writes:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess I worried that maybe in time it will become positive so I > > > just want to ask him some questions and get his opinon. I'm not > > sure > > > if I'm anemic or what the redness on my cheeks is from.> > > > > > Steph> > > > > > --- In _ @ --- In _SalineSu> > (mailto:_ @SalineSupporSal_ > (mailto: ) ) > > > , shellyjo1021@ , she> > > >> > > > Hi Steph,> > > > That is great news........ That is great news........> > > > ............ ............<WBR>........<WBR>but having all t> > > help either. Do you have hot > > > > flashes is that why your cheeks are flushed or are you enemic > > low > > > red blood > > > > cells. Fibromyalasis also gives muscles acles. Or this can be > > > simply toxins > > > > coming out of your muscles..... coming out of your coming o> > > > Why are you seeing a Rhemy if you have no immune disease I > > wouldn't > > > waste my > > > > money on doctors just detoxes!!!!! mone > > > > > > > > I love ya, ... > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 1:28:52 P.M. Eastern Standard > Time, > > > > stephie0580@ stephie0580@<W> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm having occasional muscle aches so I'm seeing a rhemy > > tomorrow. > > > > I've already had 2 ANA blood tests and they've been negative. > > > > Sometimes my cheeks also looked flushed so I'll see what he > has > > > to > > > > say.> > > > > > > > Steph> > > > > > > > --- In _ @ --- In _SalineSuppor> > > (mailto:_SalineSupp (mailto:_Saline (mailto:> > > (mailto:_ @SalineSupporSal_ > (mailto: ) ) ) > > > > , shellyjo1021@ , she> > > > >> > > > > Steph,> > > > > I had a positive ANA and they had me on a malaria drug > called > > > > Plaquenil for > > > > > 6 months and I stopped going to my rheumy and gave up on all > > > meds > > > > and decided > > > > > I would detox this disease myself and God .....Praise God > with > > > all > > > > the > > > > > detoxing I have done I havent had a break out yet . I could > > not > > > go > > > > in the sun it > > > > > broke me out, I had achey joints, little weight gain, > swelling > > > in > > > > hands and > > > > > feet. Coffee Enemas are good for this disease and liver > > > detoxing. > > > > Dr. Colberts > > > > > book says water fasting will get rid of it. I like the > Coffee > > > > enemas better.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.s. I would even get sores in my mouth. YUCK!!!!!!!! P.s. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 1:12:04 P.M. Eastern Standard > > Time, > > > > > stephie0580@ stephie0580@<W> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi , What lupus symptoms did you have? Did you have a > > > > positive > > > > > or a negative ANA?> > > > > > > > > > Steph> > > > > > > > > > --- In _ @ --- In _Sali> > > > (mailto:_SalineSupp (mailto:_Sa > > > > (mailto:_SalineSupp (mailto:_Saline (mai> > > (mailto:_ @SalineSupporSal_ > (mailto: ) ) ) ) > > > > > , shellyjo1021@ , she> > > > > >> > > > > > To Sept 05 Implants,> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes the implants are your problem ..........I had my > > implants > > > > put > > > > > in Nov 04 > > > > > > and I had systems were adding on weekly .........Diagnosed > > > with > > > > > Lupus as > > > > > > well. Then in 6 months time I became very fatigued and > then > > it > > > > > became > > > > > > worse......like a nightmare. I knew it was my implants > > because > > > > of > > > > > the girls on the > > > > > > forum here. I had them removed in 05 and I am still sick > > > because > > > > I > > > > > didn't have > > > > > > proper explant---meaning I did not get them out right. > When > > > you > > > > get > > > > > the > > > > > > implants out make sure they do a capsulectomy ---meaning > the > > > > > implants are inside a > > > > > > capsule your body has formed...... capsule your body has > form> > > > > > (implant)inside your body. Most of the girls here had > proper > > > > > explant but me I am still > > > > > > sick because of the capsules are still in me. I am going > to > > > have > > > > to > > > > > go through > > > > > > another surgery.> > > > > > > > > > > > You came to the right place to get better...... You came > to > > > the > > > > > RockHard > > > > > > BOOBs out of you ASAP. Otherwise you will end up sicker > and > > > > sicker > > > > > and then it > > > > > > can lead to death like some of us that was here!!!!!!!! > can > > > > > > The FDA has lied about our safety of these implants it > > doesn't > > > > > matter what > > > > > > kind you have saline or silicone, smooth or textured > > implants > > > > > > ............ ............<WBR>..They are all full of > > poisons > > > and m> > > > > paying for it > > > > > > now......... now.........<WBR>........<WBR><WBR>..Because > > Doctors> > > cove> > > > > Surgeons are not out of a job. > > > > > > Its all about the MONEY in AMERICA.> > > > > > Some girls were so sick they were in wheel chairs and I > was > > > bed > > > > > ridden for a > > > > > > year and half........ year and half........<WBR>...These > > > implant> > > > > little.....I > > > > > > am doing a whole lots better thanks to everyone here. I > > > continue > > > > to > > > > > get my > > > > > > life back little by little. Some girls recover quickly and > > > most > > > > > of us it takes > > > > > > time with lots of detoxing the poisons out of our bodies. > > But > > > we > > > > > will get > > > > > > into all of that........ into all of > > > that........<WBR>...Right > > > > now you > > > > > en bloc and > > > > > > Capsulectomy ........Most doctors dont do this so > emphasize > > > what > > > > > you want > > > > > > done.> > > > > > > > > > > > We are here to help and support you anytime> > > > > > Love ........... age 39 now> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 12:43:08 P.M. Eastern Standard > > > Time, > > > > > > Stottlemyer71@ Stottlemye> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i had saline implants placed sept05 without any problems. > > now > > > > > since > > > > > > july07 i started with joint pain,tenderness, facial,hands, > > > > july07 i> > > > > started w> > > > > > and redness. at first, i thought maybe it was an aspartame > > > > allergy > > > > > and > > > > > > quit anything with that in it but nothing changed. my mom > > has > > > > > rheumatod > > > > > > arthritis and i went to see the same rheumatologist and > have > > > had > > > > > lots > > > > > > of bloodwork. my ana was positive, c-reactive protein > high. > > he > > > > has > > > > > > diagnosed me with atypical lupus. i started on plaquenil > in > > > the > > > > > fall > > > > > > and now i am starting imuran-an immunosuppressant drug. > > last > > > > week > > > > > my > > > > > > left hand got so swollen that i had to have my wedding > ring > > > cut > > > > > off. > > > > > > since then, i am also on prednisone for 3 weeks. i have > been > > > > > racking my > > > > > > brain about what all this could be. my labs remain > negative > > > > except > > > > > an > > > > > > elevated sed rate. a friend brought to my attention the > > > > possibility > > > > > of > > > > > > the saline implants. can someone give their thoughts of > > this? > > > i > > > > > have > > > > > > been researching today and all of my symptoms are those of > > the > > > > > saline > > > > > > implants.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**Biggest Grammy Award > > surprises > > > of > > > > al> > > > > Music. > > > > > > (____http://music.http://musi_ (http://music.http//mus_) > (_http://music.http://mu_ (http://music.p//music.) ) <WB_ > > > (__http://music.http://music._ (http://music.http//music_) > (_http://music.http://music_ (http://music.http//music.) ) ) > > > > <___WBhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://WBhttp:/_ > (wbhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://WBhttp:_) > > (_wbhttp://muhttp:wbhttp://wbhttp:_ (wbhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://mWBhtt_) ) > > > (__wbhttp://muhttp:wbhttp://wbhttp:_ (wbhttp://muhttp:wbhttp://mwbhtt_) > > (_wbhttp://muhttp:wbhttp://mwbhtt_ (wbhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_) ) ) > > > > > (___http://music.http://music.h_ (http://music.http//music._) > (_http://music.http://music_ (http://music.http//music.) ) > > > <__WBhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://WBhttp:_ (wbhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://mWBhtt_) > > > (_wbhttp://muhttp://muhttp://muh_ (wbhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_) ) > > > > (__http://music.http://music._ (http://music.http//music.) > <_WBhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://mWBhtt_ (wbhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_) > > > (_http://music.http://music.<WBhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_ > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?) ) ) ) > > > > > NCID=aolcmp00300000 NCI> > > > > > 48)> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**Biggest Grammy Award > surprises > > o> > > > Music. > > > > > (___http://music.http://music.h_ (http://music.http//music._) > (_http://music.http://music_ (http://music.http//music.) ) > > > <__WBhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://WBhttp:_ (wbhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://mWBhtt_) > > > (_wbhttp://muhttp:wbhttp://mwbhtt_ (wbhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_) ) > > > > (__http://music.http://music._ (http://music.http//music.) > <_WBhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://mWBhtt_ (wbhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_) > > > (_http://music.http://music.<WBhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_ > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?) ) ) > > > > NCID=aolcmp00300000 NCI> > > > > 48)> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**Biggest Grammy Award > surprises o> > > Music. > > > > (__http://music.http://music._ (http://music.http//music.) > <_WBhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://mWBhtt_ (wbhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_) > > > (_http://music.http://music.<WBhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_ > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?) ) > > > NCID=aolcmp00300000 NCI> > > > 48)> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**Biggest Grammy Award surprises o> > Music. > > > (_http://music.http://music.<WBhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_ > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?) > > NCID=aolcmp00300000 > > > 48)> > >> >> > > > > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025> 48)> Who's never won? 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Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Steph, You have to be careful of the health food store on some things because they are not always the right form of things to be taken..... I found out the hard way. Make sure its whole food form that your body can break down and no fillers in them or silicon dioxide. These things upset your stomach even more. I feel safer getting them through garden of life. In a message dated 2/6/2008 7:44:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, stephie0580@... writes: Good to hear that you're doing better. That sounds so nice now, 70 degree weather. It's cold in Rhode Island too. I go to a health center every week that has the infrared sauna. It's so relaxing and nice to go to when it's cold outside! I'll try to find that digestive enzyme at a health food store. If not, I'll get the one that Garden of Life makes. Have a fun weekend!Steph> > > >> > > > Hi Steph,> > > > > > > > I know its hard not to worry but if your not ANA + than try > > other > > > approaches > > > > like detox. You already went with the approach of seeing the > > > doctor and no > > > > results .......I like to see you get better without spending > lots > > > of money > > > > like I did. Did they check other things in your blood besides > > > lupus?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 2:20:46 P.M. Eastern Standard > Time, > > > > stephie0580@ writes:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess I worried that maybe in time it will become positive so > I > > > > just want to ask him some questions and get his opinon. I'm > not > > > sure > > > > if I'm anemic or what the redness on my cheeks is from.> > > > > > > > Steph> > > > > > > > --- In _ @SalineSupporSal_ > > > (mailto: ) > > > > , shellyjo1021@, shel> > > > >> > > > > Hi Steph,> > > > > That is great news........ That is great news........> > > > > ............ ............<WBR>....but having all the sickne> > > > help either. Do you have hot > > > > > flashes is that why your cheeks are flushed or are you > enemic > > > low > > > > red blood > > > > > cells. Fibromyalasis also gives muscles acles. Or this can > be > > > > simply toxins > > > > > coming out of your muscles..... coming out of your coming o> > > > > Why are you seeing a Rhemy if you have no immune disease I > > > wouldn't > > > > waste my > > > > > money on doctors just detoxes!!!!! mone > > > > > > > > > > I love ya, ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 1:28:52 P.M. Eastern Standard > > Time, > > > > > stephie0580@ stephie0580@<W> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm having occasional muscle aches so I'm seeing a rhemy > > > tomorrow. > > > > > I've already had 2 ANA blood tests and they've been > negative. > > > > > Sometimes my cheeks also looked flushed so I'll see what he > > has > > > > to > > > > > say.> > > > > > > > > > Steph> > > > > > > > > > --- In _ @ --- In _SalineSuppor> > > > (mailto:_ @SalineSupporSal_ > > > > (mailto: ) ) > > > > > , shellyjo1021@ , she> > > > > >> > > > > > Steph,> > > > > > I had a positive ANA and they had me on a malaria drug > > called > > > > > Plaquenil for > > > > > > 6 months and I stopped going to my rheumy and gave up on > all > > > > meds > > > > > and decided > > > > > > I would detox this disease myself and God .....Praise God > > with > > > > all > > > > > the > > > > > > detoxing I have done I havent had a break out yet . I > could > > > not > > > > go > > > > > in the sun it > > > > > > broke me out, I had achey joints, little weight gain, > > swelling > > > > in > > > > > hands and > > > > > > feet. Coffee Enemas are good for this disease and liver > > > > detoxing. > > > > > Dr. Colberts > > > > > > book says water fasting will get rid of it. I like the > > Coffee > > > > > enemas better.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.s. I would even get sores in my mouth. YUCK!!!!!!!! P.s. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 1:12:04 P.M. Eastern Standard > > > Time, > > > > > > stephie0580@ stephie0580@<W> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi , What lupus symptoms did you have? Did you have > a > > > > > positive > > > > > > or a negative ANA?> > > > > > > > > > > > Steph> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In _ @ --- In _Sali> > > > > (mailto:_SalineSupp (mailto:_Sa > > > > > (mailto:_ @SalineSupporSal_ > > > > (mailto: ) ) ) > > > > > > , shellyjo1021@ , she> > > > > > >> > > > > > > To Sept 05 Implants,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes the implants are your problem ..........I had my > > > implants > > > > > put > > > > > > in Nov 04 > > > > > > > and I had systems were adding on > weekly .........Diagnosed > > > > with > > > > > > Lupus as > > > > > > > well. Then in 6 months time I became very fatigued and > > then > > > it > > > > > > became > > > > > > > worse......like a nightmare. I knew it was my implants > > > because > > > > > of > > > > > > the girls on the > > > > > > > forum here. I had them removed in 05 and I am still sick > > > > because > > > > > I > > > > > > didn't have > > > > > > > proper explant---meaning I did not get them out right. > > When > > > > you > > > > > get > > > > > > the > > > > > > > implants out make sure they do a capsulectomy ---meaning > > the > > > > > > implants are inside a > > > > > > > capsule your body has formed...... capsule your body has > > form> > > > > > > (implant)inside your body. Most of the girls here had > > proper > > > > > > explant but me I am still > > > > > > > sick because of the capsules are still in me. I am going > > to > > > > have > > > > > to > > > > > > go through > > > > > > > another surgery.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You came to the right place to get better...... You came > > to > > > > the > > > > > > RockHard > > > > > > > BOOBs out of you ASAP. Otherwise you will end up sicker > > and > > > > > sicker > > > > > > and then it > > > > > > > can lead to death like some of us that was here!!!!!!!! > > can > > > > > > > The FDA has lied about our safety of these implants it > > > doesn't > > > > > > matter what > > > > > > > kind you have saline or silicone, smooth or textured > > > implants > > > > > > > ............ ............<WBR>..They are all full of > > > poisons > > > > and m> > > > > > paying for it > > > > > > > now......... > now.........<WBR>........<WBR><WBR>..Because > > > Doctors> > > > cove> > > > > > Surgeons are not out of a job. > > > > > > > Its all about the MONEY in AMERICA.> > > > > > > Some girls were so sick they were in wheel chairs and I > > was > > > > bed > > > > > > ridden for a > > > > > > > year and half........ year and > half........<WBR>...These > > > > implant> > > > > > little.....I > > > > > > > am doing a whole lots better thanks to everyone here. I > > > > continue > > > > > to > > > > > > get my > > > > > > > life back little by little. Some girls recover quickly > and > > > > most > > > > > > of us it takes > > > > > > > time with lots of detoxing the poisons out of our > bodies. > > > But > > > > we > > > > > > will get > > > > > > > into all of that........ into all of > > > > that........<WBR>...Right > > > > > now you > > > > > > en bloc and > > > > > > > Capsulectomy ........Most doctors dont do this so > > emphasize > > > > what > > > > > > you want > > > > > > > done.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are here to help and support you anytime> > > > > > > Love ........... age 39 now> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 12:43:08 P.M. Eastern > Standard > > > > Time, > > > > > > > Stottlemyer71@ Stottlemye> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i had saline implants placed sept05 without any > problems. > > > now > > > > > > since > > > > > > > july07 i started with joint pain,tenderness, > facial,hands, > > > > > july07 i> > > > > > started w> > > > > > > and redness. at first, i thought maybe it was an > aspartame > > > > > allergy > > > > > > and > > > > > > > quit anything with that in it but nothing changed. my > mom > > > has > > > > > > rheumatod > > > > > > > arthritis and i went to see the same rheumatologist and > > have > > > > had > > > > > > lots > > > > > > > of bloodwork. my ana was positive, c-reactive protein > > high. > > > he > > > > > has > > > > > > > diagnosed me with atypical lupus. i started on plaquenil > > in > > > > the > > > > > > fall > > > > > > > and now i am starting imuran-an immunosuppressant drug. > > > last > > > > > week > > > > > > my > > > > > > > left hand got so swollen that i had to have my wedding > > ring > > > > cut > > > > > > off. > > > > > > > since then, i am also on prednisone for 3 weeks. i have > > been > > > > > > racking my > > > > > > > brain about what all this could be. my labs remain > > negative > > > > > except > > > > > > an > > > > > > > elevated sed rate. a friend brought to my attention the > > > > > possibility > > > > > > of > > > > > > > the saline implants. can someone give their thoughts of > > > this? > > > > i > > > > > > have > > > > > > > been researching today and all of my symptoms are those > of > > > the > > > > > > saline > > > > > > > implants.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**Biggest Grammy Award > > > surprises > > > > of > > > > > al> > > > > > Music. > > > > > > > (___http://music.http://mus_ (http://music.p//music.) > <WB_ > > > > (_http://music.http://music_ (http://music.http//music.) ) > > > > > <__WBhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://WBhttp:_ > > > (wbhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://mWBhtt_) > > > > (_wbhttp://muhttp:wbhttp://mwbhtt_ > > > (wbhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_) ) > > > > > > (__http://music.http://music._ (http://music.http//music.) > > > > <_WBhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://mWBhtt_ > > > (wbhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_) > > > > > (_http://music.http://music.<WBhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_ > > > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-> grammy?) ) ) > > > > > > NCID=aolcmp00300000 NCI> > > > > > > 48)> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**Biggest Grammy Award > > surprises > > > o> > > > > Music. > > > > > > (__http://music.http://music._ (http://music.http//music.) > > > > <_WBhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://mWBhtt_ > > > (wbhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_) > > > > > (_http://music.http://music.<WBhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_ > > > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?) ) > > > > > NCID=aolcmp00300000 NCI> > > > > > 48)> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**Biggest Grammy Award > > surprises o> > > > Music. > > > > > (_http://music.http://music.<WBhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_ > > > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?) > > > > NCID=aolcmp00300000NCID> > > > > 48)> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL > > > Music. > > > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?> > > NCID=aolcmp003000000025> > > > 48)> > > >> > >> >> Who's never won? 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Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Steph ~ Dont mention the implants right off, many doctors stop there, and their thinking cant get past the fact they have someone that " thinks " they are sick from implants. Then they will treat you like its all in your head. Have fun on your trip ! ! how exciting ! ! Hugs DedeWho's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 ~ IMHO, I believe that the fact you have breast pain will make it a coverable proceedure. Exploratory and removal of the nasties in there. There will probably be things like granulomas, cysts, maybe calcifications, and that type of thing in there. Possibly capsular contracture which is really infection, under a different name ! If the ins company balks at it, down the road, you can say you had 2 opinions to have this done... and fight it this way. Dad and I are ok. He is feeling the nasty effects of the last chemo right now, but is managing. I am trying to make it as easy on him as possible. If that can be done........I have had some good days, but today is one of " those " days I am punky. It will pass..... My sisters left on the 30th, we had a nice visit, but it was far too short ! Thank you for asking ! ! How are you feeling ? ? FYI..... When I had the silicone rupture, and explant and exchange for salines, they left the caps in, and I had tons of pain and sicker than haedes, only got better when I had the enblock and total capsulectomy a few months later. So, the theory of leaving toxic soup inside you is WRONG ! ! It is a recipe for pain and suffering and near death living ! ! ! Just be sure you emphasize the extent of your pain, and if it is so bad it is nausiating, let her know that too. If you feel lumps and bumps in them, or even like rocks inside you scratching your insides, let her know that too. Scar caps rubbing on nerves causes irritation too, and remember the scar caps do grow and press on nerves....as well as are toxic soup ! ! Please ask all the questions you want to ! ! anytime you want ! ! Love Dede Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Thanks for the idea. How does the vitamin C taste that Garden of Life makes? It's it a pill form or a vitamin C drops? I'll have to go to Whole Foods today to check it out. Steph > > Oh Steph, > Get lots of rest and dont worry about the cheeks. I juice fresh oranges and > take buffer vitamin c which Garden of LIfe makes is great.Take extras and > you will get over it a lot quicker. > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 2:31:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > stephie0580@... writes: > > > > > Yes, the only thing that came back positive was mono. So that > explains the fatigue I've been having. Like I needed something else!!! > > Steph > > --- In _ @SalineSupporSal_ (mailto: ) > , shellyjo1021@, shel > > > > Hi Steph, > > > > I know its hard not to worry but if your not ANA + than try other > approaches > > like detox. You already went with the approach of seeing the > doctor and no > > results .......I like to see you get better without spending lots > of money > > like I did. Did they check other things in your blood besides > lupus? > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 2:20:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > stephie0580@ stephie058 > > > > > > > > > > I guess I worried that maybe in time it will become positive so I > > just want to ask him some questions and get his opinon. I'm not > sure > > if I'm anemic or what the redness on my cheeks is from. > > > > Steph > > > > --- In _ @ --- In _Sali > (mailto:_ @SalineSupporSal_ > (mailto: ) ) > > , shellyjo1021@ , she > > > > > > Hi Steph, > > > That is great news........ That is great news........ > > > ............ ............<WBR>........<WBR>but having all t > > help either. Do you have hot > > > flashes is that why your cheeks are flushed or are you enemic > low > > red blood > > > cells. Fibromyalasis also gives muscles acles. Or this can be > > simply toxins > > > coming out of your muscles..... coming out of your coming o > > > Why are you seeing a Rhemy if you have no immune disease I > wouldn't > > waste my > > > money on doctors just detoxes!!!!! mone > > > > > > I love ya, ... > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 1:28:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > > stephie0580@ stephie0580@<W > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm having occasional muscle aches so I'm seeing a rhemy > tomorrow. > > > I've already had 2 ANA blood tests and they've been negative. > > > Sometimes my cheeks also looked flushed so I'll see what he has > > to > > > say. > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > --- In _ @ --- In _SalineSuppor > > (mailto:_SalineSupp (mailto:_Saline (mailto: > > (mailto:_ @SalineSupporSal_ > (mailto: ) ) ) > > > , shellyjo1021@ , she > > > > > > > > Steph, > > > > I had a positive ANA and they had me on a malaria drug called > > > Plaquenil for > > > > 6 months and I stopped going to my rheumy and gave up on all > > meds > > > and decided > > > > I would detox this disease myself and God .....Praise God with > > all > > > the > > > > detoxing I have done I havent had a break out yet . I could > not > > go > > > in the sun it > > > > broke me out, I had achey joints, little weight gain, swelling > > in > > > hands and > > > > feet. Coffee Enemas are good for this disease and liver > > detoxing. > > > Dr. Colberts > > > > book says water fasting will get rid of it. I like the Coffee > > > enemas better. > > > > > > > > > > > > P.s. I would even get sores in my mouth. YUCK!!!!!!!! P.s. > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 1:12:04 P.M. Eastern Standard > Time, > > > > stephie0580@ stephie0580@<W > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi , What lupus symptoms did you have? Did you have a > > > positive > > > > or a negative ANA? > > > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > --- In _ @ --- In _Sali > > > (mailto:_SalineSupp (mailto:_Sa > > > (mailto:_SalineSupp (mailto:_Saline (mailto: > > (mailto:_ @SalineSupporSal_ > (mailto: ) ) ) ) > > > > , shellyjo1021@ , she > > > > > > > > > > To Sept 05 Implants, > > > > > > > > > > Yes the implants are your problem ..........I had my > implants > > > put > > > > in Nov 04 > > > > > and I had systems were adding on weekly .........Diagnosed > > with > > > > Lupus as > > > > > well. Then in 6 months time I became very fatigued and then > it > > > > became > > > > > worse......like a nightmare. I knew it was my implants > because > > > of > > > > the girls on the > > > > > forum here. I had them removed in 05 and I am still sick > > because > > > I > > > > didn't have > > > > > proper explant---meaning I did not get them out right. When > > you > > > get > > > > the > > > > > implants out make sure they do a capsulectomy ---meaning the > > > > implants are inside a > > > > > capsule your body has formed...... capsule your body has form > > > > > (implant)inside your body. Most of the girls here had proper > > > > explant but me I am still > > > > > sick because of the capsules are still in me. I am going to > > have > > > to > > > > go through > > > > > another surgery. > > > > > > > > > > You came to the right place to get better...... You came to > > the > > > > RockHard > > > > > BOOBs out of you ASAP. Otherwise you will end up sicker and > > > sicker > > > > and then it > > > > > can lead to death like some of us that was here!!!!!!!! can > > > > > The FDA has lied about our safety of these implants it > doesn't > > > > matter what > > > > > kind you have saline or silicone, smooth or textured > implants > > > > > ............ ............<WBR>..They are all full of > poisons > > and m > > > > paying for it > > > > > now......... now.........<WBR>........<WBR><WBR>..Because > Doctors > > cove > > > > Surgeons are not out of a job. > > > > > Its all about the MONEY in AMERICA. > > > > > Some girls were so sick they were in wheel chairs and I was > > bed > > > > ridden for a > > > > > year and half........ year and half........<WBR>...These > > implant > > > > little.....I > > > > > am doing a whole lots better thanks to everyone here. I > > continue > > > to > > > > get my > > > > > life back little by little. Some girls recover quickly and > > most > > > > of us it takes > > > > > time with lots of detoxing the poisons out of our bodies. > But > > we > > > > will get > > > > > into all of that........ into all of > > that........<WBR>...Right > > > now you > > > > en bloc and > > > > > Capsulectomy ........Most doctors dont do this so emphasize > > what > > > > you want > > > > > done. > > > > > > > > > > We are here to help and support you anytime > > > > > Love ........... age 39 now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 12:43:08 P.M. Eastern Standard > > Time, > > > > > Stottlemyer71@ Stottlemye > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i had saline implants placed sept05 without any problems. > now > > > > since > > > > > july07 i started with joint pain,tenderness, facial,hands, > > > july07 i > > > > started w > > > > > and redness. at first, i thought maybe it was an aspartame > > > allergy > > > > and > > > > > quit anything with that in it but nothing changed. my mom > has > > > > rheumatod > > > > > arthritis and i went to see the same rheumatologist and have > > had > > > > lots > > > > > of bloodwork. my ana was positive, c-reactive protein high. > he > > > has > > > > > diagnosed me with atypical lupus. i started on plaquenil in > > the > > > > fall > > > > > and now i am starting imuran-an immunosuppressant drug. > last > > > week > > > > my > > > > > left hand got so swollen that i had to have my wedding ring > > cut > > > > off. > > > > > since then, i am also on prednisone for 3 weeks. i have been > > > > racking my > > > > > brain about what all this could be. my labs remain negative > > > except > > > > an > > > > > elevated sed rate. a friend brought to my attention the > > > possibility > > > > of > > > > > the saline implants. can someone give their thoughts of > this? > > i > > > > have > > > > > been researching today and all of my symptoms are those of > the > > > > saline > > > > > implants. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**Biggest Grammy Award > surprises > > of > > > al > > > > Music. > > > > > (____http://music.http://musi_ (http://music.http//mus_) > (_http://music.http://mu_ (http://music.p//music.) ) <WB_ > > (__http://music.http://music._ (http://music.http//music_) > (_http://music.http://music_ (http://music.http//music.) ) ) > > > <___WBhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://WBhttp:/_ > (wbhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://WBhttp:_) > (_wbhttp://muhttp:wbhttp://wbhttp:_ (wbhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://mWBhtt_) ) > > (__wbhttp://muhttp:wbhttp://wbhttp:_ (wbhttp://muhttp:wbhttp://mwbhtt_) > (_wbhttp://muhttp:wbhttp://mwbhtt_ (wbhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_) ) ) > > > > (___http://music.http://music.h_ (http://music.http//music._) > (_http://music.http://music_ (http://music.http//music.) ) > > <__WBhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://WBhttp:_ (wbhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://mWBhtt_) > (_wbhttp://muhttp:wbhttp://mwbhtt_ (wbhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_) ) > > > (__http://music.http://music._ (http://music.http//music.) > <_WBhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://mWBhtt_ (wbhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_) > > (_http://music.http://music.<WBhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_ > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?) ) ) ) > > > > NCID=aolcmp00300000 NCI > > > > > 48) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**Biggest Grammy Award surprises > o > > > Music. > > > > (___http://music.http://music.h_ (http://music.http//music._) > (_http://music.http://music_ (http://music.http//music.) ) > > <__WBhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://WBhttp:_ (wbhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://mWBhtt_) > (_wbhttp://muhttp:wbhttp://mwbhtt_ (wbhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_) ) > > > (__http://music.http://music._ (http://music.http//music.) > <_WBhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://mWBhtt_ (wbhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_) > > (_http://music.http://music.<WBhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_ > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?) ) ) > > > NCID=aolcmp00300000 NCI > > > > 48) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**Biggest Grammy Award surprises o > > Music. > > > (__http://music.http://music._ (http://music.http//music.) > <_WBhttp://muhttp:WBhttp://mWBhtt_ (wbhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_) > > (_http://music.http://music.<WBhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_ > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?) ) > > NCID=aolcmp00300000 NCI > > > 48) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**Biggest Grammy Award surprises o > Music. > > (_http://music.http://music.<WBhttp://muhttp://mushttp://mu_ > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?) > NCID=aolcmp00300000NCID > > 48) > > > > > > > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy? 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Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Thanks Rogene, I know I worry way to much about things! My hubby is actually taking me to NH this afternoon. We're staying there for a couple of nights. It's a nice resort in the mountains and he told me that I cannot bring my laptop! Steph > > Steph, > > If you're like most women, all these symtoms will gradually fade away . . . and bad days will be further apart . . . then, eventually, your test results will be fine. . . And you'll feel like yourself again. > > Right now, it takes dedication to getting better - and patience. Lots of it! > > Try to put your stress into something positive so your body has the energy to heal itself. It's easier said than done - but it works! > > If doctors knew everything, breast implants would be banned - long ago! > > Hugs, > > Rogene > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Thanks , I don't like those nasty tasting drops either! I'm going to stop at Whole Foods today before I leave for NH. Steph > > Hi steph, > It is pill form whole food of course and its buffered so its safe to use. I > dont like tasting all those nasty drops...so I use pill form whenever I can. > > > > In a message dated 2/6/2008 7:47:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > stephie0580@... writes: > > > > > Thanks for the idea. How does the vitamin C taste that Garden of Life > makes? It's it a pill form or a vitamin C drops? I'll have to go to > Whole Foods today to check it out. > > Steph > > --- In _ @SalineSupporSal_ (mailto: ) > , shellyjo1021@, shel > > > > Oh Steph, > > Get lots of rest and dont worry about the cheeks. I juice fresh > oranges and > > take buffer vitamin c which Garden of LIfe makes is great.Take > extras and > > you will get over it a lot quicker. > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 2:31:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > stephie0580@ stephie058 > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the only thing that came back positive was mono. So that > > explains the fatigue I've been having. Like I needed something > else!!! > > > > Steph > > > > --- In _ @ --- In _Sali > (mailto:_ @SalineSupporSal_ > (mailto: ) ) > > , shellyjo1021@ , she > > > > > > Hi Steph, > > > > > > I know its hard not to worry but if your not ANA + than try > other > > approaches > > > like detox. You already went with the approach of seeing the > > doctor and no > > > results .......I like to see you get better without spending > lots > > of money > > > like I did. Did they check other things in your blood besides > > lupus? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 2:20:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > > stephie0580@ stephie058 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess I worried that maybe in time it will become positive so > I > > > just want to ask him some questions and get his opinon. I'm not > > sure > > > if I'm anemic or what the redness on my cheeks is from. > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > --- In _ @ --- In _Sali > > (mailto:_SalineSupp (mailto:_Saline (mai > > (mailto:_ @SalineSupporSal_ > (mailto: ) ) ) > > > , shellyjo1021@ , she > > > > > > > > Hi Steph, > > > > That is great news........ That is great news........ > > > > ............ ............<WBR>........<WBR><WBR>but having all > > > help either. Do you have hot > > > > flashes is that why your cheeks are flushed or are you enemic > > low > > > red blood > > > > cells. Fibromyalasis also gives muscles acles. Or this can be > > > simply toxins > > > > coming out of your muscles..... coming out of your coming o > > > > Why are you seeing a Rhemy if you have no immune disease I > > wouldn't > > > waste my > > > > money on doctors just detoxes!!!!! mone > > > > > > > > I love ya, ... > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 1:28:52 P.M. Eastern Standard > Time, > > > > stephie0580@ stephie0580@<W > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm having occasional muscle aches so I'm seeing a rhemy > > tomorrow. > > > > I've already had 2 ANA blood tests and they've been negative. > > > > Sometimes my cheeks also looked flushed so I'll see what he > has > > > to > > > > say. > > > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > --- In _ @ --- In _SalineSuppor > > > (mailto:_SalineSupp (mailto:_Saline (mailto: > > > (mailto:_SalineSupp (mailto:_Saline (mailto: > > (mailto:_ @SalineSupporSal_ > (mailto: ) ) ) ) > > > > , shellyjo1021@ , she > > > > > > > > > > Steph, > > > > > I had a positive ANA and they had me on a malaria drug > called > > > > Plaquenil for > > > > > 6 months and I stopped going to my rheumy and gave up on all > > > meds > > > > and decided > > > > > I would detox this disease myself and God .....Praise God > with > > > all > > > > the > > > > > detoxing I have done I havent had a break out yet . I could > > not > > > go > > > > in the sun it > > > > > broke me out, I had achey joints, little weight gain, > swelling > > > in > > > > hands and > > > > > feet. Coffee Enemas are good for this disease and liver > > > detoxing. > > > > Dr. Colberts > > > > > book says water fasting will get rid of it. I like the > Coffee > > > > enemas better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.s. I would even get sores in my mouth. YUCK!!!!!!!! P.s. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 1:12:04 P.M. Eastern Standard > > Time, > > > > > stephie0580@ stephie0580@<W > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi , What lupus symptoms did you have? Did you have a > > > > positive > > > > > or a negative ANA? > > > > > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > > > --- In _ @ --- In _Sali > > > > (mailto:_SalineSupp (mailto:_Sa > > > > (mailto:_SalineSupp (mailto:_Saline (mailto: > > > (mailto:_SalineSupp (mailto:_Sa > > (mailto:_ @SalineSupporSal_ > (mailto: ) ) ) ) ) > > > > > , shellyjo1021@ , she > > > > > > > > > > > > To Sept 05 Implants, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes the implants are your problem ..........I had my > > implants > > > > put > > > > > in Nov 04 > > > > > > and I had systems were adding on weekly .........Diagnosed > > > with > > > > > Lupus as > > > > > > well. Then in 6 months time I became very fatigued and > then > > it > > > > > became > > > > > > worse......like a nightmare. I knew it was my implants > > because > > > > of > > > > > the girls on the > > > > > > forum here. I had them removed in 05 and I am still sick > > > because > > > > I > > > > > didn't have > > > > > > proper explant---meaning I did not get them out right. > When > > > you > > > > get > > > > > the > > > > > > implants out make sure they do a capsulectomy ---meaning > the > > > > > implants are inside a > > > > > > capsule your body has formed...... capsule your body has > form > > > > > > (implant)inside your body. Most of the girls here had > proper > > > > > explant but me I am still > > > > > > sick because of the capsules are still in me. I am going > to > > > have > > > > to > > > > > go through > > > > > > another surgery. > > > > > > > > > > > > You came to the right place to get better...... You came > to > > > the > > > > > RockHard > > > > > > BOOBs out of you ASAP. Otherwise you will end up sicker > and > > > > sicker > > > > > and then it > > > > > > can lead to death like some of us that was here!!!!!!!! > can > > > > > > The FDA has lied about our safety of these implants it > > doesn't > > > > > matter what > > > > > > kind you have saline or silicone, smooth or textured > > implants > > > > > > ............ ............<WBR>..They are all full of > > poisons > > > and m > > > > > paying for it > > > > > > now......... now.........<WBR>........<WBR><WBR>..Because > > Doctors > > > cove > > > > > Surgeons are not out of a job. > > > > > > Its all about the MONEY in AMERICA. > > > > > > Some girls were so sick they were in wheel chairs and I > was > > > bed > > > > > ridden for a > > > > > > year and half........ year and half........<WBR>...These > > > implant > > > > > little.....I > > > > > > am doing a whole lots better thanks to everyone here. I > > > continue > > > > to > > > > > get my > > > > > > life back little by little. Some girls recover quickly and > > > most > > > > > of us it takes > > > > > > time with lots of detoxing the poisons out of our bodies. > > But > > > we > > > > > will get > > > > > > into all of that........ into all of > > > that........<WBR>...Right > > > > now you > > > > > en bloc and > > > > > > Capsulectomy ........Most doctors dont do this so > emphasize > > > what > > > > > you want > > > > > > done. > > > > > > > > > > > > We are here to help and support you anytime > > > > > > Love ........... age 39 now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 12:43:08 P.M. Eastern Standard > > > Time, > > > > > > Stottlemyer71@ Stottlemye > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i had saline implants placed sept05 without any problems. > > now > > > > > since > > > > > > july07 i started with joint pain,tenderness, facial,hands, > > > > july07 i > > > > > started w > > > > > > and redness. at first, i thought maybe it was an aspartame > > > > allergy > > > > > and > > > > > > quit anything with that in it but nothing changed. my mom > > has > > > > > rheumatod > > > > > > arthritis and i went to see the same rheumatologist and > have > > > had > > > > > lots > > > > > > of bloodwork. my ana was positive, c-reactive protein > high. > > he > > > > has > > > > > > diagnosed me with atypical lupus. i started on plaquenil > in > > > the > > > > > fall > > > > > > and now i am starting imuran-an immunosuppressant drug. > > last > > > > week > > > > > my > > > > > > left hand got so swollen that i had to have my wedding > ring > > > cut > > > > > off. > > > > > > since then, i am also on prednisone for 3 weeks. i have > been > > > > > racking my > > > > > > brain about what all this could be. my labs remain > negative > > > > except > > > > > an > > > > > > elevated sed rate. a friend brought to my attention the > > > > possibility > > > > > of > > > > > > the saline implants. can someone give their thoughts of > > this? > > > i > > > > > have > > > > > > been researching today and all of my symptoms are those of > > the > > > > > saline > > > > > > implants. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<WBR>**Biggest Grammy Award > > surprises > > > of > > > > al > > > > > Music. > > > > > > (_____http://music.http://music_ (http://music.http//musi_) > (_http://music.http://mus_ (http://music.http//mus_) ) > > (__http://music.http://mus_ (http://music.http//mu_) > (_http://music.http://mu_ (http://music.p//music.) ) ) <WB_ > > > 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Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 That's right I forgot about that. Thanks for reminding me. Have you had good luck with the digestive enzymes from Garden of Life? Steph > > > > > > > > > > Hi Steph, > > > > > > > > > > I know its hard not to worry but if your not ANA + than try > > > other > > > > approaches > > > > > like detox. You already went with the approach of seeing the > > > > doctor and no > > > > > results .......I like to see you get better without spending > > lots > > > > of money > > > > > like I did. Did they check other things in your blood > besides > > > > lupus? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 2:20:46 P.M. Eastern Standard > > Time, > > > > > stephie0580@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess I worried that maybe in time it will become positive > so > > I > > > > > just want to ask him some questions and get his opinon. I'm > > not > > > > sure > > > > > if I'm anemic or what the redness on my cheeks is from. > > > > > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > > > --- In _ @ --- In _Sali > > > > (mailto:_ @SalineSupporSal_ > (mailto: ) ) > > > > > , shellyjo1021@ , she > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Steph, > > > > > > That is great news........ That is great news........ > > > > > > ............ ............<WBR>........<WBR>but having all > sickne > > > > > help either. Do you have hot > > > > > > flashes is that why your cheeks are flushed or are you > > enemic > > > > low > > > > > red blood > > > > > > cells. Fibromyalasis also gives muscles acles. Or this can > > be > > > > > simply toxins > > > > > > coming out of your muscles..... coming out of your coming > o > > > > > > Why are you seeing a Rhemy if you have no immune disease I > > > > wouldn't > > > > > waste my > > > > > > money on doctors just detoxes!!!!! mone > > > > > > > > > > > > I love ya, ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 1:28:52 P.M. Eastern Standard > > > Time, > > > > > > stephie0580@ stephie0580@<W > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm having occasional muscle aches so I'm seeing a rhemy > > > > tomorrow. > > > > > > I've already had 2 ANA blood tests and they've been > > negative. > > > > > > Sometimes my cheeks also looked flushed so I'll see what > he > > > has > > > > > to > > > > > > say. > > > > > > > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In _ @ --- In _SalineSuppor > > > > > (mailto:_SalineSupp (mailto:_Sa > > > > > (mailto:_ @SalineSupporSal_ > (mailto: ) ) ) > > > > > > , shellyjo1021@ , she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steph, > > > > > > > I had a positive ANA and they had me on a malaria drug > > > called > > > > > > Plaquenil for > > > > > > > 6 months and I stopped going to my rheumy and gave up on > > all > > > > > meds > > > > > > and decided > > > > > > > I would detox this disease myself and God .....Praise > God > > > with > > > > > all > > > > > > the > > > > > > > detoxing I have done I havent had a break out yet . I > > could > > > > not > > > > > go > > > > > > in the sun it > > > > > > > broke me out, I had achey joints, little weight gain, > > > swelling > > > > > in > > > > > > hands and > > > > > > > feet. Coffee Enemas are good for this disease and liver > > > > > detoxing. > > > > > > Dr. Colberts > > > > > > > book says water fasting will get rid of it. I like the > > > Coffee > > > > > > enemas better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.s. I would even get sores in my mouth. YUCK!!!!!!!! > P.s. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 1:12:04 P.M. Eastern > Standard > > > > Time, > > > > > > > stephie0580@ stephie0580@<W > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi , What lupus symptoms did you have? Did you > have > > a > > > > > > positive > > > > > > > or a negative ANA? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In _ @ --- In _Sali > > > > > > (mailto:_SalineSupp (mailto:_Sa > > > > > > (mailto:_SalineSupp (mailto:_Sa > > > > > (mailto:_ @SalineSupporSal_ > (mailto: ) ) ) ) > > > > > > > , shellyjo1021@ , she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Sept 05 Implants, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes the implants are your problem ..........I had my > > > > implants > > > > > > put > > > > > > > in Nov 04 > > > > > > > > and I had systems were adding on > > weekly .........Diagnosed > > > > > with > > > > > > > Lupus as > > > > > > > > well. Then in 6 months time I became very fatigued and > > > then > > > > it > > > > > > > became > > > > > > > > worse......like a nightmare. I knew it was my implants > > > > because > > > > > > of > > > > > > > the girls on the > > > > > > > > forum here. I had them removed in 05 and I am still > sick > > > > > because > > > > > > I > > > > > > > didn't have > > > > > > > > proper explant---meaning I did not get them out right. > > > When > > > > > you > > > > > > get > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > implants out make sure they do a capsulectomy --- > meaning > > > the > > > > > > > implants are inside a > > > > > > > > capsule your body has formed...... capsule your body > has > > > form > > > > > > > > (implant)inside your body. Most of the girls here had > > > proper > > > > > > > explant but me I am still > > > > > > > > sick because of the capsules are still in me. I am > going > > > to > > > > > have > > > > > > to > > > > > > > go through > > > > > > > > another surgery. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You came to the right place to get better...... You > came > > > to > > > > > the > > > > > > > RockHard > > > > > > > > BOOBs out of you ASAP. Otherwise you will end up > sicker > > > and > > > > > > sicker > > > > > > > and then it > > > > > > > > can lead to death like some of us that was > here!!!!!!!! > > > can > > > > > > > > The FDA has lied about our safety of these implants it > > > > doesn't > > > > > > > matter what > > > > > > > > kind you have saline or silicone, smooth or textured > > > > implants > > > > > > > > ............ ............<WBR>..They are all full of > > > > poisons > > > > > and m > > > > > > > paying for it > > > > > > > > now......... > > now.........<WBR>........<WBR><WBR>..Because > > > > Doctors > > > > > cove > > > > > > > Surgeons are not out of a job. > > > > > > > > Its all about the MONEY in AMERICA. > > > > > > > > Some girls were so sick they were in wheel chairs and > I > > > was > > > > > bed > > > > > > > ridden for a > > > > > > > > year and half........ year and > > half........<WBR>...These > > > > > implant > > > > > > > little.....I > > > > > > > > am doing a whole lots better thanks to everyone here. > I > > > > > continue > > > > > > to > > > > > > > get my > > > > > > > > life back little by little. Some girls recover quickly > > and > > > > > most > > > > > > > of us it takes > > > > > > > > time with lots of detoxing the poisons out of our > > bodies. > > > > But > > > > > we > > > > > > > will get > > > > > > > > into all of that........ into all of > > > > > that........<WBR>...Right > > > > > > now you > > > > > > > en bloc and > > > > > > > > Capsulectomy ........Most doctors dont do this so > > > emphasize > > > > > what > > > > > > > you want > > > > > > > > done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are here to help and support you anytime > > > > > > > > Love ........... age 39 now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/2008 12:43:08 P.M. Eastern > > Standard > > > > > Time, > > > > > > > > Stottlemyer71@ Stottlemye > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i had saline implants placed sept05 without any > > problems. > > > > now > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > july07 i started with joint pain,tenderness, > > facial,hands, > > > > > > july07 i > > > > > > > started w > > > > > > > > and redness. at first, i thought maybe it was an > > aspartame > > > > > > allergy > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > quit anything with that in it but nothing changed. my > > mom > > > > has > > > > > > > rheumatod > > > > > > > > arthritis and i went to see the same rheumatologist > and > > > have > > > > > had > > > > > > > lots > > > > > > > > of bloodwork. my ana was positive, c-reactive protein > > > high. > > > > he > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > diagnosed me with atypical lupus. i started on > plaquenil > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > fall > > > > > > > > and now i am starting imuran-an immunosuppressant > drug. > > > > last > > > > > > week > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > left hand got so swollen that i had to have my wedding > > > ring > > > > > cut > > > > > > > off. > > > > > > > > since then, i am also on prednisone for 3 weeks. i > have > > > been > > > > > > > racking my > > > > > > > > brain about what all this could be. my labs remain > > > negative > > > > > > except > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > elevated sed rate. a friend brought to my attention > the > > > > > > possibility > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the saline implants. can someone give their thoughts > of > > > > this? 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Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Thanks Dede, We're leaving for NH this afternoon and my appt is at 10:15. I'll try to give you a quick update when I get home. If not, I'll be back on Friday. Steph > > Steph ~ > I always think testing and questions are good. > Just try to not let them make you feel like > every word they say is truth. Be sure and > get copies of all labs from them so you can > have them for your permanent home record. > I cant wait to hear what they say ! > Hugs ~ Dede > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy? NCID=aolcmp003000000025 > 48) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Steph,Some time away will do you good! . . . Enjoy! . . . We all need to get away from the computer from time to time too! Make room for other thoughts! Fill your mind with beautiful thoughts, your body with healthy foods and your heart with love!Have a wonderful trip!Hugs,Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Hi Dede, I don't mean to jump here but i have a question. First let me ask you how you and your dad are doing and how was the family visit. Hope everything was good. Ok back in the fall i went to see a very good surgeon in my area who did perform en bloc removals but only for cancer/silicone patients. He did not believe that saline affected anything. Anyway i got a letter from his office a few weeks later stating that i had been in to see him about pain in my right breast and right in the letter he stated that he thought the implants should be removed to eliminate the pain however he did not think that total capsulectomy would be good in case there was nerve damage there and removing the capsules would only make the pain worse. I am going to try to have Dr Feng submit my removal to my insurance who stated they would pay if it was medically necessary. Should i take this letter to Dr Feng since it stated that he recommended removal or do you think i should just file it away since it also states that total capsulectomy may cause further nerve irritation? Thanks, > > Steph ~ > Dont mention the implants right off, many > doctors stop there, and their thinking cant > get past the fact they have someone that > " thinks " they are sick from implants. > Then they will treat you like its all in your > head. Have fun on your trip ! ! how > exciting ! ! > Hugs Dede > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy? NCID=aolcmp003000000025 > 48) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 ,I'd ignore his comment! . .. Until the surgeon gets in there, they have no idea what they'll find regarding nerves, etc.If they can remove gel capsules completely, they can remove saline capsules too. . . IMHO, it's just a cop-out . . . I bet I know who the surgeon is!Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 That's what i thought as well. He can only go off of what he THINKS is going on but it doesn't make sense if it was nerve damage why it would flare up out of nowhere and then give me no problems for the next week? Weird. I was just curious if that letter would help insurance cover the procedure since he stated that he thought removal was necessary but the en bloc wasn't? I am fine paying for this procedure out of pocket but it would be nice to be reimbursed something if possible. > > , > > I'd ignore his comment! . .. Until the surgeon gets in there, they have no idea what they'll find regarding nerves, etc. > > If they can remove gel capsules completely, they can remove saline capsules too. . . IMHO, it's just a cop-out . . . > > I bet I know who the surgeon is! > > Rogene > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 great, thank you Dede. Im sorry to hear that you are not feeling well. Im sure taking care of your father does not make it easier but its part of life i guess. The fact that you have an amzing attitude im sure helps you through as well. I hope both of you start to feel better soon. Your in my prayers > > ~ > IMHO, I believe that the fact you have breast > pain will make it a coverable proceedure. > Exploratory and removal of the nasties in there. > There will probably be things like granulomas, > cysts, maybe calcifications, and that type of > thing in there. Possibly capsular contracture > which is really infection, under a different name ! > If the ins company balks at it, down the road, you > can say you had 2 opinions to have this done... > and fight it this way. > Dad and I are ok. He is feeling the nasty effects > of the last chemo right now, but is managing. I am > trying to make it as easy on him as possible. If that > can be done........I have had some good days, but today > is one of " those " days I am punky. It will pass..... > My sisters left on the 30th, we had a nice visit, but it > was far too short ! Thank you for asking ! ! > How are you feeling ? ? FYI..... When I had the silicone > rupture, and explant and exchange for salines, they > left the caps in, and I had tons of pain and sicker than > haedes, only got better when I had the enblock and total > capsulectomy a few months later. So, the theory of leaving > toxic soup inside you is WRONG ! ! It is a recipe for > pain and suffering and near death living ! ! ! > Just be sure you emphasize the extent of your pain, and > if it is so bad it is nausiating, let her know that too. If you > feel lumps and bumps in them, or even like rocks inside you > scratching your insides, let her know that too. > Scar caps rubbing on nerves causes irritation too, and remember > the scar caps do grow and press on nerves....as well as are > toxic soup ! ! > Please ask all the questions you want to ! ! anytime you want ! ! > Love Dede > > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy? NCID=aolcmp003000000025 > 48) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 , I'd keep that letter away from the insurance company . . . They may decide that you don't need a capsulectomy on the basis of that letter. WRONG! Hugs, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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