Guest guest Posted February 17, 2000 Report Share Posted February 17, 2000 moores@... writes: > hyderigine a drug that an average MD would have experience with? I can't find anything negative about this drug, maybe a stomach ache or allergic to it? <A HREF= " http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?form=4 & db=m & term=hyd ergine & dispmax=20 & relentrezdate=No+Limit " >PubMed medline query</A> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?form=4 & db=m & term=hydergine & dispmax=20 & relentrezdate=No+Limit <A HREF= " http://www.smart-drugs.com/ias-Info/ias-hydergine.htm " >ias-hydergine. htm-IAS,Smart Drugs, AntiAging Medici</A> http://www.smart-drugs.com/ias-Info/ias-hydergine.htm >>>>>>Snip<<<<<<<< Hydergine increases stores of the universal energy molecule, adenosine triphosphate (ATP), stabilises the intracellular messenger molecule cyclic adenosine monophosphate (cAMP) content of nerve cells, improves utilization of glucose in the brain, and enhances cerebral microcirculation. The FDA approves Hydergine for persons " over sixty who manifest signs and symptoms of an idiopathic decline in mental capacity " (i.e. cognitive and interpersonal skills, mood, self-care, apparent motivation-Physician's Desk Reference 1995). >>>>>>>>>>SNIP<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2000 Report Share Posted February 17, 2000 This great information but would an average family doctor know about it or would one need to go to a neurologist or other specialist. thanks Steve SUSYDOG@... wrote: > From: SUSYDOG@... > > moores@... writes: > > hyderigine a drug that an average MD would have experience with? > I can't find anything negative about this drug, maybe a stomach ache or > allergic to it? > <A > HREF= " http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?form=4 & db=m & term=hyd > ergine & dispmax=20 & relentrezdate=No+Limit " >PubMed medline query</A> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?form=4 & db=m & term=hydergine > & dispmax=20 & relentrezdate=No+Limit > <A HREF= " http://www.smart-drugs.com/ias-Info/ias-hydergine.htm " >ias-hydergine. > htm-IAS,Smart Drugs, AntiAging Medici</A> > http://www.smart-drugs.com/ias-Info/ias-hydergine.htm > >>>>>>Snip<<<<<<<< > Hydergine increases stores of the universal energy molecule, adenosine > triphosphate (ATP), stabilises the intracellular messenger molecule cyclic > adenosine monophosphate (cAMP) content of nerve cells, improves utilization > of glucose in the brain, and enhances cerebral microcirculation. > The FDA approves Hydergine for persons " over sixty who manifest signs and > symptoms of an idiopathic decline in mental capacity " (i.e. cognitive and > interpersonal skills, mood, self-care, apparent motivation-Physician's Desk > Reference 1995). > >>>>>>>>>>SNIP<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2000 Report Share Posted February 17, 2000 SUSYDOG@... wrote: > > From: SUSYDOG@... > > moores@... writes: > > hyderigine a drug that an average MD would have experience with? > I can't find anything negative about this drug, maybe a stomach ache or > allergic to it? > Hi Susy and Steve, My general doc prescribed hydergine for me in 1992. Read Dirk Pearson and Sandy Shaw from their Life Extension book. Durk has really researched and tested the usage and dose of this drug. It sounds like side-effects are nil and benefits are multiple. Very helpful for the brain metabolism, for oxygen and cell regeneration plus energy. Don't remember why I stopped taking it. I was taking so many things and so sick. Think I will give it another round. Dirk writes: In France, an indication for the use of Hydergine is 'reanimation' meaning that it can be used to bring very recently dead persons back to life in conjujction with other methods. The basis for this is that in conditions where oxygen is not adequately supplied to the brain, normally irreversible free radical brain damage begins to occur after about five minutes. However, if Hydergine can be injected into the carotid artery within a few minutes after death, the brain will not begin to suffer irreversible damage for about 30 minutes. " Pearson recommends buying only Sandoz Hydergine and using the sublingual form after a meal. The FDA approved dose in the U>S> is 3 milligrams a day; in Europe the typical dose is 9 milligrams a day. Dramatic effects can be found at the European dose. He also says you can see immediate results but it takes 1 to 2 years to reap fullest benefits. Thanks, Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2000 Report Share Posted February 17, 2000 thanks for all this information I called the neuro department at the university med center. The nurse was not familiar with it but I went ahead and made an appointment with a neurologist so I guess I will get my answer so enough. Sheri are you going to give it another try?? Steve rms. general doc prescribed hydergine for me in 1992. Read Dirk Pearson > and Sandy Shaw from their Life Extension book. Durk has really > researched and tested the usage and dose of this drug. It sounds like > side-effects are nil and benefits are multiple. Very helpful for the > brain metabolism, for oxygen and cell regeneration plus energy. > > Don't remember why I stopped taking it. I was taking so many things and > so sick. Think I will give it another round. Dirk writes: > > In France, an indication for the use of Hydergine is 'reanimation' > meaning that it can be used to bring very recently dead persons back to > life in conjujction with other methods. The basis for this is that in > conditions where oxygen is not adequately supplied to the brain, > normally irreversible free radical brain damage begins to occur after > about five minutes. However, if Hydergine can be injected into the > carotid artery within a few minutes after death, the brain will not > begin to suffer irreversible damage for about 30 minutes. " > > Pearson recommends buying only Sandoz Hydergine and using the sublingual > form after a meal. The FDA approved dose in the U>S> is 3 milligrams a > day; in Europe the typical dose is 9 milligrams a day. Dramatic effects > can be found at the European dose. > > He also says you can see immediate results but it takes 1 to 2 years to > reap fullest benefits. > > Thanks, Sheri > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2000 Report Share Posted February 17, 2000 hi all , hi steve, dug thru my brief notes: apparently sometime in the fall 1994, i had tried hydergine, my comment next to it was increased gi symtoms specially increased gatroesophagel refluxing. it was a pill to the best of my recollection...at that time cfids mds trying it on many patients in their practice... hope it works for you . somish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2000 Report Share Posted February 17, 2000 thanks I talked to a neuro nurse & she said it was also used to treat migranes -- I went ahead and made an appointment with a neuro -- needed to do that anyway. Steve SOMISH@... wrote: > From: SOMISH@... > > hi all , hi steve, > dug thru my brief notes: apparently sometime in the fall 1994, i had > tried hydergine, my comment next to it was increased gi symtoms specially > increased gatroesophagel refluxing. > it was a pill to the best of my recollection...at that time cfids mds > trying it on many patients in their practice... > hope it works for you . > somish > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 Oh Saul, you stinker! Re: Re:Hydergine >Dear Super and Jim, > >Since it seems to be time for 'fessing up, >I will admit to several dozen LSD trips myself... >... and pounds of pot... >... and lots of hash (remember hot knives??)... >... a bit of coke... a few MDMA... >... but my favorite was mescaline... like being under water and connected > to the pulse of the whole world... >...best for concerts...some of the peak experiences of my life.... > > >Best of Health! >Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh > >URL: http://www.plasmafire.com >email: saul@... > > " The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created >them " . - Einstein > > > Re: Re:Hydergine > > >> holy jumpin' crimminey, jim :-) >> i only took it about 500-600 times and i've been told i'm beyond the >> psychological pale for- >> ever and ever because of it. >> y'all must be a old hippie too. >> 'Frisco hashberryian myself... '66-70-something.. at least as much of >> '66-'70-something as i can remember. heh heh >> >> Dennis >> >> A. : . A. : . >> >> >> >> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and >other alternative self-help subjects. >> >> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! >> >> This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here >are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing >information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your >own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to >take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to >hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found >here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher >or health care provider. >> >> You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following >address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - >> DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of >the message! : >> >> oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups >> >> oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. >> > > > > >OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > >THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > >This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > >You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - >DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 CAn you give me the www on hte place to get hydergine. Thanks, Ken Patty wrote: > Buying prescriptions over the border in Mexico is easy. They are so willing > to sell you drugs over there that they will come up to you on the street and > ask you if you are looking for pharmaceutical drugs. Then they will take > you to their favorite pharmacy, (or the one that hired them to be a look > out), and sell you just about anything. And these pharmacies aren't hard to > find. They are on every street corner and everywhere in between. > > There are pharmacists on duty all the time, and you can get answers to your > questions if they speak good enough English. > > On my last visit to Mexico (Nogales) I wanted to purchase some Armour > thyroid. However, this is one prescription I could not get there. No one > had it, with most of the pharmacies carrying Synthroid or Levoxin or > whatever those other ones are. But the guy that was helping me was so > determined to get me what I wanted, he finally told me where I could find a > doctor who would write me the prescription for a fee, with my only hope > being that an American pharmacy would fill it. I hit pay dirt, when I > dikkered the price with the doc, and for $10 he wrote me a prescription for > a year's supply of Armour, and the Wal-Mart on the American side of Nogales > filled it. > > The only other problem I had was when I wanted to buy some hydergine. It > was way overpriced in Mexico! I found a website that sold some to me out > of Hong Kong for less than half the price. So do your shopping before you > go to Mexico to make sure you are getting the best price. > Patty > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 Ken, You can get virtually all nootropics from www.qhi.co.uk or www.nubrain.com jim Ken wrote: > > CAn you give me the www on hte place to get hydergine. Thanks, Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 > CAn you give me the www on hte place to get hydergine. Thanks, Ken http://libsol.net/enter.html They've changed their layout since I last bought it, so you might have to do a little looking around. Let me know if you have any trouble finding it. It might also be listed under " ergoloid mesylates " (or something like that.) Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 I wouldn't buy a lot of hydergine until you take some. The only real contraindication to it is an allergy to hydergine. But, being one of 3 alkaloids extracted from ergot in the 40's by Sandoz, looking for a hypertension drug, an allergy to any of them is a possibility. The other two ergot alkaloids were LSD-25 & bromocriptine. I must have taken acid 1500 times in my youth and it always agreed with me. I currently take bromocriptine and it agrees with me. But, I discontinued hydergine because I'm allergic to it in the 4.5 mg dose. My longevity MD got me to try it again at 1 mg, which I tolerated, but I'm not going to pay $30 for 30 1mg doses. Bottom line is hydergine is the only nootropic so far for which I have nothing nice to say. Deprenyl kicked my butt bigtime once when I took a little too much, but I still take it in small doses. I've got hydergine sitting in a drawer. jim Patty wrote: > > > CAn you give me the www on hte place to get hydergine. Thanks, Ken > > http://libsol.net/enter.html > > They've changed their layout since I last bought it, so you might have to do > a little looking around. Let me know if you have any trouble finding it. > It might also be listed under " ergoloid mesylates " (or something like that.) > Patty > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 holy jumpin' crimminey, jim :-) i only took it about 500-600 times and i've been told i'm beyond the psychological pale for- ever and ever because of it. y'all must be a old hippie too. 'Frisco hashberryian myself... '66-70-something.. at least as much of '66-'70-something as i can remember. heh heh Dennis A. : . A. : . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 Dennis, Sorry, I'm not a hippie. They were those young upstarts who came along and THOUGHT they knew what we were doing and did their version. And, as things happen, there were more of them & they were louder & noisier about it. Even rub-your-nose-in-it as often as not. And, they had a catchy slogan: " Sex, drugs & rock & roll! " I consider myself a retired flower child. ;-) West Village NYC, 1963-80 something. Hippies mistook Universal love for hedonism, sacraments as intoxicants and they diverted a quest for the Holy Grail into a drunken orgy! Although, I do have to confess, I did enjoy quite a few of the parties, until, as the Mexican saying goes, " In time, every joke loses its humor. " ! I get high on green leafy vegetable juice now! :) jim superflous1@... wrote: > > holy jumpin' crimminey, jim :-) > i only took it about 500-600 times and i've been told i'm beyond the > psychological pale for- > ever and ever because of it. > y'all must be a old hippie too. > 'Frisco hashberryian myself... '66-70-something.. at least as much of > '66-'70-something as i can remember. heh heh > > Dennis > > A. : . A. : . > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 y'all seems to have a pretty dim view of hippies for someone who wasn't there. the methodology and the pharmacology were the same for both coasts and the underscore of searching for spiritual values and living in harmony on earth were the same for both. maybe you just have a skosh of the " us vs. them " mentality left over from the " old-old " days? Dennis A. : . A. : . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 wait a minute... were you a beatnick? if so... kewl. personally my first ambition was to be either a bohemian or a beatnick. i really would have prefered bohemian though. artsy craftsy poetic wine drinking introspectives. philosophers all and damned fine humane beings to boot. but i'm prejudiced :-) unfortunately i was too old and the bohemians and beatnicks had pretty much faded by the late 50's. so i hitched my wagon to the Hashberrys rising star and wasn't disappointed for... for quite some time. it's been fun reminiscing :-) Dennis A. : . A. : . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 Dear Super and Jim, Since it seems to be time for 'fessing up, I will admit to several dozen LSD trips myself... .... and pounds of pot... .... and lots of hash (remember hot knives??)... .... a bit of coke... a few MDMA... .... but my favorite was mescaline... like being under water and connected to the pulse of the whole world... ....best for concerts...some of the peak experiences of my life.... Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh URL: http://www.plasmafire.com email: saul@... " The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created them " . - Einstein Re: Re:Hydergine > holy jumpin' crimminey, jim :-) > i only took it about 500-600 times and i've been told i'm beyond the > psychological pale for- > ever and ever because of it. > y'all must be a old hippie too. > 'Frisco hashberryian myself... '66-70-something.. at least as much of > '66-'70-something as i can remember. heh heh > > Dennis > > A. : . A. : . > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2000 Report Share Posted October 16, 2000 Well, God bless, Saul, et al, Is this going to turn into confession night? I know, Saul, I did just about everything there was back then, but there were a few months once, when a friend gave me a double-handed scoop of freeze-dried strawberry tablets, containing organic mescaline -- about 1000 hits. He looked me in the eye, and said, " Here, spread these around. " It was a mission. I gave most of them to strangers at one of the first 4th of July smoke-ins at the mall in D.C. (If any listmembers happened to have worked at the intelligence agency that photographed us & kept a copy of the pictures, I'd love some!) Seriously, life has become what many of us saw coming years ago. We have a world where everybody did something foolish in their youth, and we're still decent people! We listen to what politicians are really saying, and ignore the anti-drug rhetoric as the pandering it is, and take note of the panderers! To be sure, I am an aggressive opponent of making intoxicants available to minors -- and even immature adults! But, we have better things to do with people's lives and tax dollars than to have them fight each other in the criminal justice system! It has to be obvious to anyone with a functioning brain cell that people who want drugs will get them. It is human nature. Prohibition cannot work! Since it is a nutritional deficiency, why not treat it as such? It is a medical problem for doctors who specialize in this! Addiction is a metabolic disease. It is an area where the cut/poison/burn style of medicine is impotent. Addiction is a deficiency disease where the body's most important sensor, the one to tell when something important is missing, get's turned on all the time! Just imagine that! The reaching out for sugar, alcohol, pot, whatever.... is the body's attempt to reach homeostasis -- that place where it get's to relax! It wants to relax!! It is going to relax if it has to kill you! The only way to turn off that sensor is nutrition. Wheat grass juice if you are in a hurry. The next first thing to try in every disease/disorder is oxygen! HBOT! Ozone in most of its incarnations! Exercise to increase oxygen levels! Diet to do same. It's all oxygen! Learn to understand it! You are a carbon unit. You require oxygen. ;-) jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2000 Report Share Posted October 16, 2000 Dear Jim, Amen! Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh URL: http://www.plasmafire.com email: saul@... " The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created them " . - Einstein Re: Re:Hydergine > Well, God bless, Saul, et al, > > Is this going to turn into confession night? > > I know, Saul, I did just about everything there was back then, but there > were a few months once, when a friend gave me a double-handed scoop of > freeze-dried strawberry tablets, containing organic mescaline -- about > 1000 hits. He looked me in the eye, and said, " Here, spread these > around. " > > It was a mission. I gave most of them to strangers at one of the first > 4th of July smoke-ins at the mall in D.C. (If any listmembers happened > to have worked at the intelligence agency that photographed us & kept a > copy of the pictures, I'd love some!) > > Seriously, life has become what many of us saw coming years ago. We have > a world where everybody did something foolish in their youth, and we're > still decent people! We listen to what politicians are really saying, > and ignore the anti-drug rhetoric as the pandering it is, and take note > of the panderers! > > To be sure, I am an aggressive opponent of making intoxicants available > to minors -- and even immature adults! But, we have better things to do > with people's lives and tax dollars than to have them fight each other > in the criminal justice system! It has to be obvious to anyone with a > functioning brain cell that people who want drugs will get them. It is > human nature. Prohibition cannot work! Since it is a nutritional > deficiency, why not treat it as such? It is a medical problem for > doctors who specialize in this! > > Addiction is a metabolic disease. It is an area where the > cut/poison/burn style of medicine is impotent. Addiction is a deficiency > disease where the body's most important sensor, the one to tell when > something important is missing, get's turned on all the time! Just > imagine that! > > The reaching out for sugar, alcohol, pot, whatever.... is the body's > attempt to reach homeostasis -- that place where it get's to relax! It > wants to relax!! It is going to relax if it has to kill you! The only > way to turn off that sensor is nutrition. Wheat grass juice if you are > in a hurry. > > The next first thing to try in every disease/disorder is oxygen! HBOT! > Ozone in most of its incarnations! Exercise to increase oxygen levels! > Diet to do same. It's all oxygen! Learn to understand it! You are a > carbon unit. You require oxygen. ;-) > > jim > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2000 Report Share Posted October 16, 2000 Oh my Gosh, now you guys have me scared to take the hydergine I bought....and I've got quite a supply (wanted to get the most I could out of the $12 shipping I paid from Hong Kong...:~) I have nothing to fess up to, except a bad one time experience with pot that made me throw up--never again!!!! So, do I take this hydergine for my brain or not? Patty Re: Re:Hydergine > Dear Super and Jim, > > Since it seems to be time for 'fessing up, > I will admit to several dozen LSD trips myself... > ... and pounds of pot... > ... and lots of hash (remember hot knives??)... > ... a bit of coke... a few MDMA... > ... but my favorite was mescaline... like being under water and connected > to the pulse of the whole world... > ...best for concerts...some of the peak experiences of my life.... > > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh > > URL: http://www.plasmafire.com > email: saul@... > > " The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created > them " . - Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2000 Report Share Posted October 16, 2000 Patty, Most certainly, yes! Take it. I only caution people to start hydergine slowly initially to make sure they have no reaction. It is good stuff! But, it takes months for most folks to notice any improvement from it. It is one of those things you take because you know it is good for you, not because you can feel it. That's another reason I prefer pramiracetam, I can feel what it is doing for my level of awarness. jim Patty wrote: > > Oh my Gosh, now you guys have me scared to take the hydergine I > bought....and I've got quite a supply (wanted to get the most I could out of > the $12 shipping I paid from Hong Kong...:~) > I have nothing to fess up to, except a bad one time experience with pot that > made me throw up--never again!!!! > So, do I take this hydergine for my brain or not? > Patty > ----- Original Message ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2000 Report Share Posted October 16, 2000 Dear Debbie, Potter who ?? (heh, heh) Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh URL: http://www.plasmafire.com email: saul@... " The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created them " . - Einstein Hydergine > > > > Since it seems to be time for 'fessing up, > > I will admit to several dozen LSD trips myself... > > ... and pounds of pot... > > ... and lots of hash (remember hot knives??)... > > ... a bit of coke... a few MDMA... > > ... but my favorite was mescaline... like being under water and connected > > to the pulse of the whole world... > > ...best for concerts...some of the peak experiences of my life.... > > I credited drugs with bringing me out of my shell:). Never got to > try mescaline, I guess you can " type " me cuz crystal was my > choice. > So....to borrow from allopathics, we must now draw the conclusion > that drug use disposes one to being a Potter groupie?. > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2000 Report Share Posted October 16, 2000 Deb, I meet a LOT of old hippies in the health food store. ;-) The national WHole Foods Market chain was started in Austin by some 6th street hippies! jm Debbie Mc wrote: > So....to borrow from allopathics, we must now draw the conclusion > that drug use disposes one to being a Potter groupie?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2000 Report Share Posted October 17, 2000 Deb, Do you eat your meat raw? If you do, I'm impressed. I used to when I was a teenager. I've been thinking about going all raw food and eating meat & fish that way, to get the digestive enzymes. The syntax of your music question confuses me. Do you mean acid-loving music, loving on acid music or music I loved in the acid days? My answer to all three is STONES! I still listen to them, but now I prefer my blues with more of an up beat, a la Keb Mo, or the master of humorous irony, Randy Newman. jim Debbie Mc wrote: > > I love old Hippies:) We now have an Whole Foods and my dogs are > proud to eat raw meat and bones and veggies from this paradise of > culinary delights:), along with their mom, who foregoes the bones. > You all should come over for some organic rib eyes:). I'm in TX > too:O. > Ok, what was your best acid lovin music? I did love Leon > and some great British blues:), would have been 1971 for my first > time in the orange sunshine. > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2000 Report Share Posted October 17, 2000 Deb, What do you mean lost your protection? SBO's, specifically plantarum, subtilis, salivarius and probably others, all dirctly kill & consume e. coli, salmonella, shigella, candida and many other pathogens. That's wpart of the reason I take them on a daily basis. How about sushi? I'm thinking of reading a book on sushi to see what I can serve at home. jim Debbie Mc wrote: > > Jim Lambert wrote: I did but with my built in protection gone, I sear the outside just long enough to kill stuff. I only eat beef raw, have not graduated to the other stuff:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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