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i'm really sick...the

worst part is i am really broke/unemployed/in poverty and so i often

resorted to eating cheap or free food which made me sick. So i doubt

i can buy any supplements or fancy vitamins

Are you able to afford any books at all? If not, if you like, you can email me

at:

teddii189@...

I may be able to mail you a book that could get you started. Just send me your

address privately if you are interested.

Laurie :)

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Teddi: while buying fast food, purchase a bulb of fresh garlic, eat along

with the food. drink plenty of water, you can have a die off with the garlic,

try no sugar, carbs, exercise, you'll be surprised how well you feel by

leaving the sugar alone, what do you eat?

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I've had similar feelings about several posters recently... , also people

asking on colloidal silver lists about Dr. stuff... Joy

At 05:46 AM 10/12/03 +0000, you wrote:

>This looks phony to me. Don't bother writing. Keep your responses on

>line, not off.

>Leo

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>>>> This looks phony to me. Don't bother writing. Keep your responses

on

line, not off.

Leo <<<<

It struck me that way too, or someone just being totally lazy and

wanting to be spoon-fed, which as we all know means they won't have the

fortitude to do any kind of non-toxic healing program.

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Jim......if you want to discuss quackery......we need to refer to the AMA.

They are absolutely not interested anything that works outside of their little

realm of " conventional " healthcare......and I use the term " healthcare "

lightly! Dr. Ralph Moss, PhD......who really is considered " the " authority on

cancer treatment, (studies & research to prove) states emphatically that the

current methods of cancer treatment/s are not only not effective......they are

barbaric & kill more people than they cure! And...that more people are living

OFF of cancer, than those who recover, or at least have a level of remission.

Renouned MD's like Dr. n Whitaker, Dr. Weil, Dr. J. , Dr.

H. Huggins, Dr. Atkins,....to name just a very few...all started out as

conventional practioners, and soon realized that people were simply either

just getting worse....or dying; instead of recovering, or at least improving by

the AMA's protocols. So....they decided to look at ways of allowing/assisting

the body to do what it was meant to do....heal itself naturally, not by being

poisoned to death by all the toxic garbage doctors prescribe all in the name

of " good health. " ! As I have stated in previous post.....physician error

KILLS more people a year than all the deaths combined from Aids...Auto Accidents

& Heart Disease! Now there is a statistic to be proud of. Also.....87%

of MD's take vitatmin supplements for THEIR health & well-being, but have you

EVER had one recommend supplementation to you..........or, even ask about your

diet in general? Rare,,,,to NEVER. If you want to get educated about

healthcare (the truth) one excellent source is going to the site of Dr. ph

Mercola. You have to dig deep....but seek & you will find.....JUST NOT AT

YOUR LOCAL MD's OFFICE. They are in bed with the pharaceutical companies big

time......because healthcare is NOT cost effective .....SICKCARE IS! If

natural remedies (vitamins, etc) could be patented ...you would see a major push

for " ALTERNATIVE " practices. rae

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<<<< I was also in the same boat as this person who wants

to know if it works. >>>>

Jim: you need to do a search on the quackbusters and who they are and

their history. I'm sorry I don't have any links handy, others on the

list might.

I am a Chiropractor and we finally took this group to court years ago to

get rid of their overt and covert attacks on our profession. They leave

us alone as far as filing charges against us but of course they still

refute what we do on their site. As long as we don't have to pay

lawyers to get rid of them, that's their right.

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At 11:31 AM 10/12/03 -0700, you wrote:

>They break down what she does exactly

>and there is nothing behind it. Any thoughts? Why

>would they write all this stuff? Wouldnt she be able

>to prove it works? They are clearly saying it doesnt.

yeah, you're right interesting article.

Oh, it is not 1 parasite but many. The rest doesn't sound very good for dr

.

(free books at www.nielwillems.org although I am not sure if that site is

copyright fraud or too boost sales).

Any way, I had very positive effects using the zapper (improoved stool

after 2 days, and the parasite program as digestion improved a lot quickly.

The liver flush was also very successful 300 stones in 2 flushes. Maybe 1

parasite came out. I have to have this testes. If it is tapeworm, dr

's make sense somehow, if it isn't anything maybe I just waisted some

money on the parasite program.

otherwise there is more liver program here:

http://www.liverdoctor.com

..

more bowel cleanse stuff here

http://www.800herbdoc.com/index.html (also on curezone.com)

some nice gallstone picts here

http://www.curezone.com/image_gallery/default.asp

good luck

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At 02:48 PM 10/12/03 -0400, you wrote:

>I am a Chiropractor and we finally took this group to court years ago to

>get rid of their overt and covert attacks on our profession. They leave

>us alone as far as filing charges against us but of course they still

>refute what we do on their site. As long as we don't have to pay

>lawyers to get rid of them, that's their right

That's a good point, after giropractical treatment I could walk and climb

again.

Although some info on the site doesn't sound very well for dr . Any

way, I had some good results until now and see if things improove or not.

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> yeah, you're right interesting article.

> Oh, it is not 1 parasite but many. The rest doesn't sound very good for dr

> .

Like there's no counter-argument, whatever.

Look, just because she may have gotten it wrong in her parasite

identifcation does not change the fact that she has observed " a parasite " in

each case! Mis-identified or not!

CDC in Atlanta states that by the time the average american is 30 years old

they are carying around on average 2 lbs of parasites within their bodies.

80% of those parasaites are microscopic. Zapper. 80% gone.

(Those figures may be slightly off as I haven't looked that up in over two

years, and it took me around 3 hours on their site and multiple searches to

find the reference. But it is/was there.)

> (free books at www.nielwillems.org although I am not sure if that site is

> copyright fraud or too boost sales).

Care to elaborate on that?

> Any way, I had very positive effects using the zapper (improoved stool

> after 2 days, and the parasite program as digestion improved a lot

quickly.

> The liver flush was also very successful 300 stones in 2 flushes. Maybe 1

> parasite came out. I have to have this testes. If it is tapeworm, dr

> 's make sense somehow, if it isn't anything maybe I just waisted some

> money on the parasite program.

And maybe you're one of those lucky people who didn't have any large

parasites in your body?

That leaves the other 80 % (+/-) of parasitial infestation.

Khepri

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> Although some info on the site doesn't sound very well for dr . Any

> way, I had some good results until now and see if things improove or not.

Tell you what, to be FAIR why don't you go and read all the past news

letters on Tim and Jan Bolens website or whatever....and then come back here

and let us know wht you're newly formed opinion is....that is AFTER you have

an idea of what both sides are about...

khepri

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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:35:51 -0700 (PDT), jim fenster wrote:

>I know what you mean but having people like that exist

>is pretty damn important if u ask me. For some health

>practice is to be effective, it should be testable to

>some degree. I wouldnt care if people were doing

>things to themselves, but when u start charging for

>stuff, then it gets complicated. There are alot of

>gullible people out there, and its important to

>protect them against things that don't make any sense.

>This zapper thing seems to have no valid science

>behind it. The syncrometer is pretty ridiculous as

>well. If it was so effective, do you not think it

>would be easily testable? Why would her office be in

>Tijauna? Saying she can cure cancer when her brother

>died from cancer despite her trying to help him. thats

>really bad. And if you read the case of the woman she

>treated, its so very sad. Makes me very sad to see

>that lunatic do this to people. People who are

>desperate and will believe anything. Read this on

>the syncrometer. Even if you don't like the quackery

>site, read this.

>http://www.uoguelph.ca/~kkolas/#syncrometer

( Snip happens )

Kirk Kolas is a 'Doctor' of veterinary,his opinions are as valid as mine,

since I am not a medical doctor either.

Here is an example of the 'Research Based Medicine' that the 'fraudies'

promote and approve of on their list:

>>From: julian taber <jtaber@...>

>><healthfraud@...>

>>Subject: [healthfraud] constructive lies?

>>Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:56:05 -0700

>>

>>If the quacks routinely lie about what they can do with their magic and lie

>>about science based medicine, is it so bad to circulate counter-lies?

>>

>>1. I know of three people who simply exploded while sleeping on magnetic

>>mattresses, and one who was killed by spontaneous combustion of his

>>tissues.

>>

>>2. Several people I've heard of have died horrible deaths because of shock

>>and infections induced by acupuncture.

>>

>>3. Mega vitamins cause brain cancer; it's a well-known fact.

>>

>>4. A friend using essential oils on his skin is now scarred for life

>>because the oils contained fumic acid.

>>

>>Well, o.k., lies are bad, but I may try a few on friends to see their

>>reactions. If people believe the claims of the quacks, they may believe

>>anything and maybe we could scare them straight.

>>

>>Just kidding, really. It's been a dull Saturday on rainy Whidbey Island

>>where there is a personal quack for every citizen.

>>

>>jt

The thread has evolved with several contributors inventing things that

can happen if you dare to use any none approved protocals. They really

are a hatefull group that will go to any lengths to discedit the work of

people like Dr, .

Jim, It has been five years now since I was cured of cancer using Dr.

s protocals and though my hair is thinner now I still have it. I

see no possibility of cancer happening to me in the future. Please

buy one of Dr. 's books and find out for yourself.

I will see if I can get Lee to forward this post to Healthfraud, as

I am banned from posting there. The fraudies group really do need

to examine the ethics of posting on open sites. They damage only

themselves with posts like the above.

Love,

.

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Oi vey! ....Yeah, I'll look for it.....it is important....

I could have swore I had saved that particular page, but that was three

computer crashes ago!

Khepri

Re: please respond

> Khepri, thanks. I really NEED that reference to the CDC in Atlanta

> where they make that statement. Could you take the trouble and locate

> the page for us, or post it to me off list?

> Many thanks.

> Leo

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Khepri, thanks. I really NEED that reference to the CDC in Atlanta

where they make that statement. Could you take the trouble and locate

the page for us, or post it to me off list?

Many thanks.

Leo

----------------------------------------------------

> > yeah, you're right interesting article.

> > Oh, it is not 1 parasite but many. The rest doesn't sound very

good for dr

> > .

>

> Like there's no counter-argument, whatever.

>

> Look, just because she may have gotten it wrong in her parasite

> identifcation does not change the fact that she has observed " a

parasite " in

> each case! Mis-identified or not!

>

> CDC in Atlanta states that by the time the average american is 30

years old

> they are carying around on average 2 lbs of parasites within their

bodies.

> 80% of those parasaites are microscopic. Zapper. 80% gone.

>

> (Those figures may be slightly off as I haven't looked that up in

over two

> years, and it took me around 3 hours on their site and multiple

searches to

> find the reference. But it is/was there.)

>

> > (free books at www.nielwillems.org although I am not sure if that

site is

> > copyright fraud or too boost sales).

>

> Care to elaborate on that?

>

>

> > Any way, I had very positive effects using the zapper (improoved

stool

> > after 2 days, and the parasite program as digestion improved a lot

> quickly.

> > The liver flush was also very successful 300 stones in 2 flushes.

Maybe 1

> > parasite came out. I have to have this testes. If it is tapeworm,

dr

> > 's make sense somehow, if it isn't anything maybe I just

waisted some

> > money on the parasite program.

>

> And maybe you're one of those lucky people who didn't have any large

> parasites in your body?

>

> That leaves the other 80 % (+/-) of parasitial infestation.

>

> Khepri

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At 06:16 PM 10/12/03 -0400, you wrote:

> > Although some info on the site doesn't sound very well for dr . Any

> > way, I had some good results until now and see if things improove or not.

>

>Tell you what, to be FAIR why don't you go and read all the past news

>letters on Tim and Jan Bolens website or whatever....and then come back here

>and let us know wht you're newly formed opinion is....that is AFTER you have

>an idea of what both sides are about...

>

>khepri

thanks for the advice, maybe you can be so kind to give me also the URL

because if I google Jan Bolen, it comes up with a lot lot of Jan Bolens and

quakery stuff I do not know if any one of these is yours.

>

>

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At 06:12 PM 10/12/03 -0400, you wrote:

> > yeah, you're right interesting article.

> > Oh, it is not 1 parasite but many. The rest doesn't sound very good for dr

> > .

>

>Like there's no counter-argument, whatever.

>

>Look, just because she may have gotten it wrong in her parasite

>identifcation does not change the fact that she has observed " a parasite " in

>each case! Mis-identified or not!

I am sorry, but I really mis your point here. The quakery says she

identifeid only 1 parastite as the cause of all diseases. Obviously from dr

s literature she identified

many and specifically.

Counter arguments you find in her books, website and testimonials. If you

know of any sopecific counter argument of the case mentioned in the quakery

I am interested to read it. Maybe you can send me the URL.

> (free books at www.nielwillems.org although I am not sure if that site is

> copyright fraud or too boost sales).

Care to elaborate on that?

putting whole books on the internet is copyright fraud. In case they were

put on the net deliberately to get more people to read them it will boost

sales of medications of dr. Maybe it is not a deliberate tactic. It

reminded me of how microsoft gor big: many people and companies in the

early days got an illegal copy of word. Later they had to update the

versions and companies were more intend to buy them, hence it became a

standard because there were so many (illegal) copies around. For microsoft

you can say it is a messy product full of flaws and very clever management.

For dr this doesn't count. I guess she has a good product and maybe

not so good management.

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Keep trying. We need it.

Leo

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> : )

>

> Oi vey! ....Yeah, I'll look for it.....it is important....

>

> I could have swore I had saved that particular page, but that was

three

> computer crashes ago!

>

> Khepri

>

> Re: please respond

>

>

> > Khepri, thanks. I really NEED that reference to the CDC in Atlanta

> > where they make that statement. Could you take the trouble and

locate

> > the page for us, or post it to me off list?

> > Many thanks.

> > Leo

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  • 1 year later...

I was wondering if this might not be the best thing for me.

I suffered Chronic bilateral Orchitis several times.

I am not sure what to do about things but I wonder if I should try something

like this.

Seemes as if my testicles are barley functional and has been recommeneded to me

Prothesis testicualr implants in place of my testicles along with going on HRT

which I think might work out for me.

What does anyone know about this.

Swollen to grapefruit size and were very sore they seem to have regained some

size after shrinking

approximatley 4.5cmx2.5 and 4.5cm x 2.4 I wonder what this says.

They were shrunken and ejaculationg bloods and all very serious condition not

sure what to do or think about it.

Dave <daultman@...> wrote:

I have to say that after Dr put me on HCG (250iu every third day)

that after about a month, I am getting middle of the night hardons again

and horny as hell...something that was fading away after a year of

Androgel treatment.

Re: Masturbation and hormone imbalence

Ricky welcome. Masturbation will not do what you feel it has done. I

started at the young age of 9 at that age it felt good to orgasm but

nothing came out was to young. I did it all the time was a poor kid

with no toys. If one plays with there self to hard and fast they will

not feel good in sex with a women. So if this is the case then you need

to play with it like it was in a women use lots of lub and go slow and

don't be so hard on it. It will take some time but you can get over

this. Hell I am 61 and still play with it when the wife is not in the

mood. Are you married or have a girl friend.

Go to this site and read Dr. 's TRT:A Recipe for Success and his HCG

Update. They are at the bottom of the site. In this you will see what

tests you need. Make sure the Dr. you see does these tests. And make

sure they test your E2 " Estradiol " hige E2 and low T can cause ED.

http://www.allthingsmale.com/

Phil

ymd_100 <vdudhe@...> wrote:

Tomorrow i am going for the blood test. I never had any in the past

related to the hormones. Let us see what happen next. I am not

confident that every thing will be good with the results, but you

never know. I have a question to all of you, have you ever thought

that what is the reason behind all these....(?)

I would like to tell you my story...

When i was 12 year old, i started doing masturbation, and when i was

close to my puberty it was on the peak, on an average i did twice a

day and that is still going on (I am 28 now), i can't live without

the masturbation.

If i try to stop that then after 3-4 day i feel lot of heat

(flashes) in the body and then i forced to masturbate again.

Because of this bad habit i am not at all good in the sex. I have

the problem of ED. I feel that when it was the time for my body to

grow, I played with it too much and it disturbed every thing

(Hormones).

My morning erections are not strong. May be because of excess

masturbation and ejaculation. I don't have the muscular body and i

think the reason is that i never gave the chance to develop them,

when you do too much sex then you waste all the nutrients and energy

you eat.

I noticed one thing when I take the GNC Mega Man capsule which is

nothing but a multivitamin, I get the morning erections. But still

not like hard rock but better than when I don't eat them. May be I

don't eat healthy food.

Any way I am going for the blood test, but before starting the

treatment I would like to see an urologist also, let us see what he

will say. Because at this moment I am concerned about two things

(1) Muscular body with less fat

(2) Good sexual life and no more ED

For the first one I think that I can give a try and eat less fat

food with lot of exercise

And for the second one I will meet the urologist let us see what he

says?

Guys pray for me...pray that every thing comes ok in the blood

reports.

Please let us know if your life style was some what same like mine..

Ricky

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ive never herd or read anything like that.liz or jaX will know they both are great in helping they will answer you quickly im sure so jus hold on

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Okay you are making me think now. But the body as many waste filters, Lungs clean out the things we breath in. (That is why smoking is bad for you because it paralyzes the little hair like thing a ma gigs that are in the lungs making them less efficient. Liver filters everything we eat, breathe, drink, and take. Kidneys are a filtration system, also the skin. We get rid of waste through perspiration, the skin being the largest organ of the body. Now if the liver is impaired in anyway then the filteration system is not working properly and therefore, yes in my opinion I think it could. How to get rid of it, drink lots of water, this helps our liver flush its self out. Helps with all the bodies organs, bathe frequently, use a deodrant soap,such as dial, etc. Brush and floss at least 3 times a day and use a tongue scraper to

prevent mouth odor. This is my suggestion. Love Janetrickydavis9111 <rickydavis9111@...> wrote: I'm new to this wonderful group.I'm also in the body odor group.I was hoping that someone can answer this for me.Can hepatitis ccause a terrible body odor?Thanks rickyThere are souls in this world which have the gift of finding joy everywhere and of leaving it behind them when they go." -Frederick Faber

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I answered in my simple way Tim. *smile* Love JanetHillbilly Tim <knoxweb1@...> wrote: ive never herd or read anything like that.liz or jaX will know they both are great in helping they will answer you quickly im sure so jus hold on Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. There are souls in this world which have the gift of finding joy everywhere and of leaving it behind them when they go." -Frederick Faber

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I answered in my simple way Tim. *smile* Love JanetHillbilly Tim <knoxweb1@...> wrote: ive never herd or read anything like that.liz or jaX will know they both are great in helping they will answer you quickly im sure so jus hold on Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. There are souls in this world which have the gift of finding joy everywhere and of leaving it behind them when they go." -Frederick Faber

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As a matter of fact it can . When your hep progresses to the point where you can no longer process proteins they are converted to ammonia in the blood . And when ammonia levels get high your body uses your sweat glands to try and get rid of some of that and thus you can get a body odor sometimes similar to urine . Or with hep alot of patients end up with type II diabetes , and when blood sugar gets high you excrete a sickly sweet smell . Either way you should ask the doc to check your amonia levels and a fasting blood sugar .

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I'm new to this wonderful group.I'm also in the body odor group.I was hoping that someone can answer this for me.Can hepatitis ccause a terrible body odor?Thanks ricky

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