Re: Slowly Legalizing Foods: Voting for the Inside

[Guest guest]

Hi Lori: I also need fiber as well as taste (plus fats and protein) to feel

satisfied and full when I eat. If I wait until I feel hungry and just eat low

fiber, high sugar foods, I will feel even hungrier after eating and may even get

low blood sugar symptoms within an hour or so. So I save those high sugar, sweet

treats to eat as DESSERT after a satisfying high fiber, protein, fat containing

meal. I keep those meals small but balanced when I plan to eat dessert. So I

don't feel totally full before I eat dessert and don't feel stuffed after eating

my dessert.

When I choose a food intuitively, I try to consider what the food will taste

like in my mouth AS WELL AS what the food will feel like in my stomach. WWSHTB

calls that 'voting for the inside'. However, I need to eat without distractions

often enough to notice how the food feels as well as how the food tastes.

Everytime I focus on tastes and feelings while eating, I collect information

about each food which will help me decide what to eat later.

SUE

> >>

> >> Hi Abby-thanks for your thoughts...I sooooo wish I was ready to buy a large

> >> amount of off-limits food and do what you've advised...I don't trust myself

> >> yet. Just ordered the book Intuitive Eating (not available at my library)

> >> and am hoping to make progress on that soon. I want to be brave!!!! Or I

> >> guess I want food to just be a normal part of my life. I will let you know

> >> the day I am able to do what you've said here--I'm looking forward to it.

My

> >> son will look forward to it too--he always wants to bake cookies, brownies,

> >> etc. and I usually find some excuse because I am afraid I'll eat it all

(and

> >> I usually do when we do bake). But I am hopeful this will change soon!!!!

> >> Thanks for the welcome. Ginger

> >

> >>

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lori: I also need fiber as well as taste (plus fats and protein) to feel

satisfied and full when I eat. If I wait until I feel hungry and just eat low

fiber, high sugar foods, I will feel even hungrier after eating and may even get

low blood sugar symptoms within an hour or so. So I save those high sugar, sweet

treats to eat as DESSERT after a satisfying high fiber, protein, fat containing

meal. I keep those meals small but balanced when I plan to eat dessert. So I

don't feel totally full before I eat dessert and don't feel stuffed after eating

my dessert.

When I choose a food intuitively, I try to consider what the food will taste

like in my mouth AS WELL AS what the food will feel like in my stomach. WWSHTB

calls that 'voting for the inside'. However, I need to eat without distractions

often enough to notice how the food feels as well as how the food tastes.

Everytime I focus on tastes and feelings while eating, I collect information

about each food which will help me decide what to eat later.

SUE

> >>

> >> Hi Abby-thanks for your thoughts...I sooooo wish I was ready to buy a large

> >> amount of off-limits food and do what you've advised...I don't trust myself

> >> yet. Just ordered the book Intuitive Eating (not available at my library)

> >> and am hoping to make progress on that soon. I want to be brave!!!! Or I

> >> guess I want food to just be a normal part of my life. I will let you know

> >> the day I am able to do what you've said here--I'm looking forward to it.

My

> >> son will look forward to it too--he always wants to bake cookies, brownies,

> >> etc. and I usually find some excuse because I am afraid I'll eat it all

(and

> >> I usually do when we do bake). But I am hopeful this will change soon!!!!

> >> Thanks for the welcome. Ginger

> >

> >>

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lori: I also need fiber as well as taste (plus fats and protein) to feel

satisfied and full when I eat. If I wait until I feel hungry and just eat low

fiber, high sugar foods, I will feel even hungrier after eating and may even get

low blood sugar symptoms within an hour or so. So I save those high sugar, sweet

treats to eat as DESSERT after a satisfying high fiber, protein, fat containing

meal. I keep those meals small but balanced when I plan to eat dessert. So I

don't feel totally full before I eat dessert and don't feel stuffed after eating

my dessert.

When I choose a food intuitively, I try to consider what the food will taste

like in my mouth AS WELL AS what the food will feel like in my stomach. WWSHTB

calls that 'voting for the inside'. However, I need to eat without distractions

often enough to notice how the food feels as well as how the food tastes.

Everytime I focus on tastes and feelings while eating, I collect information

about each food which will help me decide what to eat later.

SUE

> >>

> >> Hi Abby-thanks for your thoughts...I sooooo wish I was ready to buy a large

> >> amount of off-limits food and do what you've advised...I don't trust myself

> >> yet. Just ordered the book Intuitive Eating (not available at my library)

> >> and am hoping to make progress on that soon. I want to be brave!!!! Or I

> >> guess I want food to just be a normal part of my life. I will let you know

> >> the day I am able to do what you've said here--I'm looking forward to it.

My

> >> son will look forward to it too--he always wants to bake cookies, brownies,

> >> etc. and I usually find some excuse because I am afraid I'll eat it all

(and

> >> I usually do when we do bake). But I am hopeful this will change soon!!!!

> >> Thanks for the welcome. Ginger

> >

> >>

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jonathon: Never too late to learn or jump in on threads. LOL I agree that

learning to sense stomach cues is challenging. However focussing on eating while

I eat (without reading or watching tv or anything else) allows me to 'hear'

(sense) what's going on in my stomach as I eat. I can sense whether I'm still

hungry, no longer hungry, comfortably full, moderately full or overly full. I

also sense how I feel after chewing and swallowing the food. If I just focus on

taste, rather than how my stomach and whole body feels during and after eating a

certain food, I can't really vote for the inside (except the inside of my

mouth).

After mindful eating experiences with many different foods, I learn how I will

feel during and after eating those foods as well as what they taste like. So

when I feel hungry, I can imagine exactly what will satisfy that hunger, not

according to taste, but according to how I remember my stomach felt the last

time I ate that food. Also I remember how long I stayed unhungry after eating a

food or certain combination of foods.

I sometimes ask myself, when I consider what will feel good in my stomach (and

satisfy hunger), whether I want something hot or cold, sweet, salty, sour,

bitter, moist or dry, creamy or chewy, wet crisp or dry crunchy or even sticky

gooey. The more I can identify qualities of what I want to eat, the more easily

I can match those qualities with a specific food.

Many intuitive eating choices are influenced by our memories of eating certain

foods. If we only remember tastes, we may crave foods that taste great, but

leave us feeling physically unsatisfied. Likewise, if we never eat a food, we

don't have cravings for that food. We develop cravings for foods we remember

enjoying. Sometimes those memories developed during childhood, but as adults we

no longer enjoy those foods. However, if we never let ourselves eat those

childhood favorites to determine whether we still like the food, we may still

crave foods we currently dislike.

SUE

>

> Hate to jump in so late on this thread, but…

>

>

>

> I agree with the concept of “voting with the stomach†but I’m finding it

hard to learn how to do it. I’m slowly getting there I guess but all too

often the instant gratification of the taste loses out to how it’s going to

feel (and how I’m going to feel) after I eat it.

>

>

>

> When I sit here right now, not hungry, and think about what I want to eat the

next time I am hungry I want balance, fresh flavors and nutrition. When I get

hungry peanut butter filled pretzels, fried food and other less nutritionally

advantageous foods sound appealing.

>

>

>

> Is there some way to speed up this learning process or is it just something

that my brain and body have to negotiate together over time?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jonathon: Never too late to learn or jump in on threads. LOL I agree that

learning to sense stomach cues is challenging. However focussing on eating while

I eat (without reading or watching tv or anything else) allows me to 'hear'

(sense) what's going on in my stomach as I eat. I can sense whether I'm still

hungry, no longer hungry, comfortably full, moderately full or overly full. I

also sense how I feel after chewing and swallowing the food. If I just focus on

taste, rather than how my stomach and whole body feels during and after eating a

certain food, I can't really vote for the inside (except the inside of my

mouth).

After mindful eating experiences with many different foods, I learn how I will

feel during and after eating those foods as well as what they taste like. So

when I feel hungry, I can imagine exactly what will satisfy that hunger, not

according to taste, but according to how I remember my stomach felt the last

time I ate that food. Also I remember how long I stayed unhungry after eating a

food or certain combination of foods.

I sometimes ask myself, when I consider what will feel good in my stomach (and

satisfy hunger), whether I want something hot or cold, sweet, salty, sour,

bitter, moist or dry, creamy or chewy, wet crisp or dry crunchy or even sticky

gooey. The more I can identify qualities of what I want to eat, the more easily

I can match those qualities with a specific food.

Many intuitive eating choices are influenced by our memories of eating certain

foods. If we only remember tastes, we may crave foods that taste great, but

leave us feeling physically unsatisfied. Likewise, if we never eat a food, we

don't have cravings for that food. We develop cravings for foods we remember

enjoying. Sometimes those memories developed during childhood, but as adults we

no longer enjoy those foods. However, if we never let ourselves eat those

childhood favorites to determine whether we still like the food, we may still

crave foods we currently dislike.

SUE

>

> Hate to jump in so late on this thread, but…

>

>

>

> I agree with the concept of “voting with the stomach†but I’m finding it

hard to learn how to do it. I’m slowly getting there I guess but all too

often the instant gratification of the taste loses out to how it’s going to

feel (and how I’m going to feel) after I eat it.

>

>

>

> When I sit here right now, not hungry, and think about what I want to eat the

next time I am hungry I want balance, fresh flavors and nutrition. When I get

hungry peanut butter filled pretzels, fried food and other less nutritionally

advantageous foods sound appealing.

>

>

>

> Is there some way to speed up this learning process or is it just something

that my brain and body have to negotiate together over time?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Laurie, the combination of tira misu and grapefruit is a rather interesting combination, but it certainly has my vote. Just wondering what that slice would taste like with some fresh strawberries rather than the grapefruit.

Jeanne

[Guest guest]

I'm not a grapefruit lover ... too acidic for me. However, I depend on peanut

butter and eat it for either breakfast or lunch every day. If I don't have it

for breakfast (on a muffin with berries or fruit), I crave it for lunch (in a

tortilla wrap with fruit). Peanut butter and grapefruit reminded me of my fav PB

combo: PB and mango in a brown rice tortilla wrap. YUMMMEEE!

SUE