Re: Re: Nutrition vs. taste: Acid Blockers

[Guest guest]

I definitely don't have low acid symptoms. What I can't figure out is

why lately it's been worse when I've actually been eating pretty well.

I tried an experiment yesterday and gave myself permission to have a

binge (per a suggestion from Gillian--giving permission takes away the

guilt). It wasn't even a very big binge, but the reflux has just been

terrible. I'm going to have to be really careful about my food choices

for a while to see if that helps. The only thing I can think of is

that I've been eating a little more fat than usual, but even that

hasn't been very much.

Sohni

sue wrote:

-- In IntuitiveEating_Support ,

jeanniet58 wrote:

It's also possible that being bulimic in the past is part of the

problem.

>

> Sohni

I also suspect chronic purging (over 35 years) initially relaxed my

esophageal valve often enough to cause my reflux. When I don't purge

and don't overeat to the point of discomfort for long periods, I rarely

have reflux. However I also have several symptoms of low stomach acid

(thin, tearing fingernails, multiple food born bacterial infections,

difficulty digesting meats), when I don't take betaine hydrochloride.

I'd love to stop taking anything to improve digestion. I'd also love to

be able to eat anything I want without reflux. For now, avoiding

overeating and abstaining from purging seems like the best approach to

prevent reflux. However, I also try to limit foods which relax my LEV.

I can eat them, but not several at the same meal or large amounts.

SUE

[Guest guest]

I definitely don't have low acid symptoms. What I can't figure out is

why lately it's been worse when I've actually been eating pretty well.

I tried an experiment yesterday and gave myself permission to have a

binge (per a suggestion from Gillian--giving permission takes away the

guilt). It wasn't even a very big binge, but the reflux has just been

terrible. I'm going to have to be really careful about my food choices

for a while to see if that helps. The only thing I can think of is

that I've been eating a little more fat than usual, but even that

hasn't been very much.

Sohni

sue wrote:

-- In IntuitiveEating_Support ,

jeanniet58 wrote:

It's also possible that being bulimic in the past is part of the

problem.

>

> Sohni

I also suspect chronic purging (over 35 years) initially relaxed my

esophageal valve often enough to cause my reflux. When I don't purge

and don't overeat to the point of discomfort for long periods, I rarely

have reflux. However I also have several symptoms of low stomach acid

(thin, tearing fingernails, multiple food born bacterial infections,

difficulty digesting meats), when I don't take betaine hydrochloride.

I'd love to stop taking anything to improve digestion. I'd also love to

be able to eat anything I want without reflux. For now, avoiding

overeating and abstaining from purging seems like the best approach to

prevent reflux. However, I also try to limit foods which relax my LEV.

I can eat them, but not several at the same meal or large amounts.

SUE

[Guest guest]

I definitely don't have low acid symptoms. What I can't figure out is

why lately it's been worse when I've actually been eating pretty well.

I tried an experiment yesterday and gave myself permission to have a

binge (per a suggestion from Gillian--giving permission takes away the

guilt). It wasn't even a very big binge, but the reflux has just been

terrible. I'm going to have to be really careful about my food choices

for a while to see if that helps. The only thing I can think of is

that I've been eating a little more fat than usual, but even that

hasn't been very much.

Sohni

sue wrote:

-- In IntuitiveEating_Support ,

jeanniet58 wrote:

It's also possible that being bulimic in the past is part of the

problem.

>

> Sohni

I also suspect chronic purging (over 35 years) initially relaxed my

esophageal valve often enough to cause my reflux. When I don't purge

and don't overeat to the point of discomfort for long periods, I rarely

have reflux. However I also have several symptoms of low stomach acid

(thin, tearing fingernails, multiple food born bacterial infections,

difficulty digesting meats), when I don't take betaine hydrochloride.

I'd love to stop taking anything to improve digestion. I'd also love to

be able to eat anything I want without reflux. For now, avoiding

overeating and abstaining from purging seems like the best approach to

prevent reflux. However, I also try to limit foods which relax my LEV.

I can eat them, but not several at the same meal or large amounts.

SUE

[Guest guest]

The weird thing is I didn't really overeat--I classify it as a "binge"

just because I was eating my typical binge foods, but I wasn't stuffing

them in (lol). Just a sort of casual binge, if there is such a thing.

I wasn't more than moderately full.

Sohni

sue wrote:

Hi Sohni: Overeating anything definitely exacerbates my reflux

symptoms. I sometimes think I can 'get away with' overeating, because I

don't need to lose weight. However, reflux reminds me to stop eating

when I feel moderately full, rather than overly full, so I don't cause

myself unnecessary discomfort.

SUE

> > It's also possible that being bulimic in the past is part of

the problem.

> > >

> > > Sohni

> >

> > I also suspect chronic purging (over 35 years) initially

relaxed my

> > esophageal valve often enough to cause my reflux. When I

don't purge

> > and don't overeat to the point of discomfort for long

periods, I

> > rarely have reflux. However I also have several symptoms of

low

> > stomach acid (thin, tearing fingernails, multiple food born

bacterial

> > infections, difficulty digesting meats), when I don't take

betaine

> > hydrochloride. I'd love to stop taking anything to improve

digestion.

> > I'd also love to be able to eat anything I want without

reflux. For

> > now, avoiding overeating and abstaining from purging seems

like the

> > best approach to prevent reflux. However, I also try to limit

foods

> > which relax my LEV. I can eat them, but not several at the

same meal

> > or large amounts.

> >

> > SUE

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The weird thing is I didn't really overeat--I classify it as a "binge"

just because I was eating my typical binge foods, but I wasn't stuffing

them in (lol). Just a sort of casual binge, if there is such a thing.

I wasn't more than moderately full.

Sohni

sue wrote:

Hi Sohni: Overeating anything definitely exacerbates my reflux

symptoms. I sometimes think I can 'get away with' overeating, because I

don't need to lose weight. However, reflux reminds me to stop eating

when I feel moderately full, rather than overly full, so I don't cause

myself unnecessary discomfort.

SUE

> > It's also possible that being bulimic in the past is part of

the problem.

> > >

> > > Sohni

> >

> > I also suspect chronic purging (over 35 years) initially

relaxed my

> > esophageal valve often enough to cause my reflux. When I

don't purge

> > and don't overeat to the point of discomfort for long

periods, I

> > rarely have reflux. However I also have several symptoms of

low

> > stomach acid (thin, tearing fingernails, multiple food born

bacterial

> > infections, difficulty digesting meats), when I don't take

betaine

> > hydrochloride. I'd love to stop taking anything to improve

digestion.

> > I'd also love to be able to eat anything I want without

reflux. For

> > now, avoiding overeating and abstaining from purging seems

like the

> > best approach to prevent reflux. However, I also try to limit

foods

> > which relax my LEV. I can eat them, but not several at the

same meal

> > or large amounts.

> >

> > SUE

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The weird thing is I didn't really overeat--I classify it as a "binge"

just because I was eating my typical binge foods, but I wasn't stuffing

them in (lol). Just a sort of casual binge, if there is such a thing.

I wasn't more than moderately full.

Sohni

sue wrote:

Hi Sohni: Overeating anything definitely exacerbates my reflux

symptoms. I sometimes think I can 'get away with' overeating, because I

don't need to lose weight. However, reflux reminds me to stop eating

when I feel moderately full, rather than overly full, so I don't cause

myself unnecessary discomfort.

SUE

> > It's also possible that being bulimic in the past is part of

the problem.

> > >

> > > Sohni

> >

> > I also suspect chronic purging (over 35 years) initially

relaxed my

> > esophageal valve often enough to cause my reflux. When I

don't purge

> > and don't overeat to the point of discomfort for long

periods, I

> > rarely have reflux. However I also have several symptoms of

low

> > stomach acid (thin, tearing fingernails, multiple food born

bacterial

> > infections, difficulty digesting meats), when I don't take

betaine

> > hydrochloride. I'd love to stop taking anything to improve

digestion.

> > I'd also love to be able to eat anything I want without

reflux. For

> > now, avoiding overeating and abstaining from purging seems

like the

> > best approach to prevent reflux. However, I also try to limit

foods

> > which relax my LEV. I can eat them, but not several at the

same meal

> > or large amounts.

> >

> > SUE

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I realized after I posted that I had a box of Jr. Mints, so maybe that

did it. Mint doesn't usually bother me, but seems like lately a lot of

atypical things are causing problems.

Sohni

sue wrote:

Hi Sohni: Maybe your body is just adjusting to eating less. So

your 'moderately full' may not feel as good anymore. Unless I'm taking

meds that cause symtpoms, I tend to interpret any uncomfortable

sensations as signs that my body wants me to eat differently (less,

more, different foods, different times, etc.).

SUE

> > > > It's also possible that being bulimic in the past

is part of the

> > problem.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sohni

> > > >

> > > > I also suspect chronic purging (over 35 years)

initially relaxed my

> > > > esophageal valve often enough to cause my reflux.

When I don't purge

> > > > and don't overeat to the point of discomfort for

long periods, I

> > > > rarely have reflux. However I also have several

symptoms of low

> > > > stomach acid (thin, tearing fingernails, multiple

food born bacterial

> > > > infections, difficulty digesting meats), when I

don't take betaine

> > > > hydrochloride. I'd love to stop taking anything to

improve digestion.

> > > > I'd also love to be able to eat anything I want

without reflux. For

> > > > now, avoiding overeating and abstaining from

purging seems like the

> > > > best approach to prevent reflux. However, I also

try to limit foods

> > > > which relax my LEV. I can eat them, but not several

at the same meal

> > > > or large amounts.

> > > >

> > > > SUE

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Normally it wouldn't be a problem unless I ate a ton of it. So I'm not

sure what the deal is lately.

Sohni

sue wrote:

The combination of chocolate, mints and sugar (in Jr. Mints) could

easily make me have reflux. Any one of those ingredients may not bother

me, but eating a whole box of candy which contained all 3 of those

ingredients would trigger reflux for me.

SUE

> > > > > > It's also possible that being bulimic in

the past is part of the

> > > > problem.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sohni

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I also suspect chronic purging (over 35

years) initially

> > relaxed my

> > > > > > esophageal valve often enough to cause my

reflux. When I don't

> > purge

> > > > > > and don't overeat to the point of

discomfort for long periods, I

> > > > > > rarely have reflux. However I also have

several symptoms of low

> > > > > > stomach acid (thin, tearing fingernails,

multiple food born

> > bacterial

> > > > > > infections, difficulty digesting meats),

when I don't take betaine

> > > > > > hydrochloride. I'd love to stop taking

anything to improve

> > digestion.

> > > > > > I'd also love to be able to eat anything

I want without

> > reflux. For

> > > > > > now, avoiding overeating and abstaining

from purging seems

> > like the

> > > > > > best approach to prevent reflux. However,

I also try to limit

> > foods

> > > > > > which relax my LEV. I can eat them, but

not several at the

> > same meal

> > > > > > or large amounts.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > SUE

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Normally it wouldn't be a problem unless I ate a ton of it. So I'm not

sure what the deal is lately.

Sohni

sue wrote:

The combination of chocolate, mints and sugar (in Jr. Mints) could

easily make me have reflux. Any one of those ingredients may not bother

me, but eating a whole box of candy which contained all 3 of those

ingredients would trigger reflux for me.

SUE

> > > > > > It's also possible that being bulimic in

the past is part of the

> > > > problem.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sohni

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I also suspect chronic purging (over 35

years) initially

> > relaxed my

> > > > > > esophageal valve often enough to cause my

reflux. When I don't

> > purge

> > > > > > and don't overeat to the point of

discomfort for long periods, I

> > > > > > rarely have reflux. However I also have

several symptoms of low

> > > > > > stomach acid (thin, tearing fingernails,

multiple food born

> > bacterial

> > > > > > infections, difficulty digesting meats),

when I don't take betaine

> > > > > > hydrochloride. I'd love to stop taking

anything to improve

> > digestion.

> > > > > > I'd also love to be able to eat anything

I want without

> > reflux. For

> > > > > > now, avoiding overeating and abstaining

from purging seems

> > like the

> > > > > > best approach to prevent reflux. However,

I also try to limit

> > foods

> > > > > > which relax my LEV. I can eat them, but

not several at the

> > same meal

> > > > > > or large amounts.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > SUE

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