Guest guest Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Thanks Sandy! I agree on the female doctors. Next time I have to go see a doctor (besides my regular doctor, who is a female) I am going to request a female doctor. I've had bad luck with the male ones too! They do not get women's health issues, and frankly I think that they think we are all a bunch of idiots that can't comprehend what they are saying. Grrrrrrrrr...... ~Krista > > Krista you have a sweet personality > I have bad luck with male doctors > Wish I was a ghost in that room > I would have tripped him as he walked out the door > > I will take my chances any day with a female doctor > Female doctors are more compassionate > Don't you ladies agree? > > Krista your not alone we are all > looking for that one doctor that believes > > > Craigs list... in every state ....and country: > By: Dede > > Doctors needed for charity work. > Expertise in enblock proceedure with use of drain tubes > for explanting implanted devices for people that are very ill, > and are also ill from their implanted devices. > > Honoring their hippocratic oath " First Do No Harm " > is a must. All charity work will be tax deductible. > There are many people in need of this help. > > So ill they cannot work and therefore have no funds > available to be able to have this surgery. > > > > Well....I saw the endocrinologist today. What a waste of time! You > all are right about that...they are basically worthless! I felt like > he came into the room with a chip on his shoulder (like he had > already read my chart and saw the tests I had already had done, and > had already labeled me as a hypochondriac or something. He basically > said that there is nothing wrong with my endocrine system (before he > has even talked to me,) and then went on to lecture me for a good > half hour about various things such as how the endocrine system works > (like I am a dummy and didn't already know or something,) and how the > saliva cortisol tests are worthless (he doesn't do them and won't > look a them if a patient brings them in,) and maybe my fatigue is > just being caused by stress or age (yeah, well I am only 30 years old > buddy,)and how my symptoms could be related to any system in my body > & there is no reason to think they are endocrine related. I think he > already had it set in his head tha he wasn't going to help me, and > that there was nothing wrong with me...before he even saw me. He > told me that I just need to live with the fatigue and " learn how to > adapt. " > Anyway, I tried not to cry the entire time I was in there because he > made me feel like such an idiot...like I was wasting his time or > something. > He ended up running an adrenal test.....I think just to get me out of > his hair and also to torture me because it took...getting my blood > taken, getting a shot, waiting a half hour and getting my blood > tested again, then another half hour later taking blood AGAIN! I felt > like a pin cushion. He said everything will probably come back normal > but " we might as well do it while you are here. " He wouldn't even > talk about possible sex hormones...he said as long as I am > menstrating there is no problem. > Needless to say, I won't be going back to the doctor again. I am > tired of getting poked and prodded, told there is nothing wrong with > me, and looked at like I am an idiot or something. Grrrrrrrrrr...... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Hi Traci,I'm so happy that you have a compassionate MD! You are fortunate! I've had many wonderful MDs in the past, when I had situations that were "textbook" illnesses. I wonder if because you had a staph infection with obvious symptoms the doctors could see and measure, your doc knew how to handle it and did so with compassion...not to diminish what you went through because I know you struggled and persevered a long time! For those of us with vague symptoms like unexplained fatigue, dizziness, visual disturbances and MS-like symptoms that don't show up on an MRI, I've found that my once compassionate doctors are not so understanding. Rather than admit they don't know or even attempt to find answers, I was told things like: All women experience a decline in energy at 38 (when I seriously could barely walk up my stairs). You're just stressed. You want an MRI? ?! Hahahaha!! You just need an antidepressant (as he patted my knee). You look fine to me and your CBC is normal. You're not sick. Your periods are regular? Oh, then we're just wasting time doing all these blood tests. If your periods are regular you have no hormonal imbalances. I've had hundreds of patients with implants and none of them were sick. I seriously doubt that my vision loss, dizziness, headaches, high intraocular pressure, fatigue and numbness could be solely from stress or being 38! Especially when months before I was working out 4-5 times per week. In my experience, it seems that "if it wasn't taught in medical school, then it doesn't exist." If they can't seem to "fix" you, it's a blow to their self-esteem, and rather than admit they don't know, they then turn it back on the patient and act as if it's all in her head. I'm not saying all allopathic docs are like this, but it seems to be the general course for those of us w/ implant illness. I plan on writing every one of the docs I saw and telling them that implant illness does indeed exist and what symptoms they can look for and resources where they can find more info. You're lucky to have found a great doc! How have you been feeling lately? Love, PH > From: sandy dusty.com@...> Subject: Krista and Friends> > Cc: dusty.com@...> Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 7:14 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krista you have a sweet > personality> I have bad luck with male > doctors> Wish I was a ghost in that > room> I would have tripped him as he > walked out the door> > I will take my chances any day with > a female doctor> Female doctors are more > compassionate> Don't you ladies > agree?> > Krista your not alone we are > all> looking for that one doctor > that believes > > > > Craigs list... > in every > state ....and country:> By: > Dede> > Doctors > needed for charity work.> Expertise in enblock proceedure with > use of drain tubes> for explanting implanted devices for people that are very ill, > and are also ill from their implanted devices.> > Honoring their hippocratic oath " First Do No Harm"> is a must. All charity work > will be tax deductible.> There are many people in need of this > help. > > So ill they cannot work and therefore have no funds > available > to be able to have this surgery. > > > > Well....I saw the endocrinologist today. What a waste of time! You > > all are right about that...they are basically worthless! I felt like > he > came into the room with a chip on his shoulder (like he had > already read my > chart and saw the tests I had already had done, and > had already labeled me > as a hypochondriac or something. He basically > said that there is nothing > wrong with my endocrine system (before he > has even talked to me,) and then > went on to lecture me for a good > half hour about various things such as how > the endocrine system works > (like I am a dummy and didn't already know or > something,) and how the > saliva cortisol tests are worthless (he doesn't do > them and won't > look a them if a patient brings them in,) and maybe my > fatigue is > just being caused by stress or age (yeah, well I am only 30 years > old > buddy,)and how my symptoms could be related to any system in my body > > & there is no reason to think they are endocrine related. I think he > > already had it set in his head tha he wasn't going to help me, and > that > there was nothing wrong with me...before he even saw me. He > told me that I > just need to live with the fatigue and "learn how to > adapt."> Anyway, I > tried not to cry the entire time I was in there because he > made me feel like > such an idiot...like I was wasting his time or > something.> He ended up > running an adrenal test.....I think just to get me out of > his hair and also > to torture me because it took...getting my blood > taken, getting a shot, > waiting a half hour and getting my blood > tested again, then another half > hour later taking blood AGAIN! I felt > like a pin cushion. He said everything > will probably come back normal > but "we might as well do it while you are > here." He wouldn't even > talk about possible sex hormones...he said as long > as I am > menstrating there is no problem. > Needless to say, I won't be > going back to the doctor again. I am > tired of getting poked and prodded, > told there is nothing wrong with > me, and looked at like I am an idiot or > something. Grrrrrrrrrr. .....> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 I've told this story on our group before, but here is a good time to mention it again. My dad is friends with a gynecologist in my hometown. When I first got sick, and I told my parents, my dad mentioned my illness to this guy and told him that I had suspected my implants. I guess he was feeling him out for his experience. This gynecologist--a doctor whose patients are all female--told my dad, " You know why she is sick? She's a woman, that's why. " When my dad told me this, I was fuming mad. How dare this a**hole suggest that we women are hypochondriacs, or that we are just always sick for some reason or another! If I could have called that jerk and given him a piece of my mind, I would have. But I sure let me dad know what I thought of his " friend. " Men. LOL They are all the same. HA Patty > > > > Krista you have a sweet personality > > I have bad luck with male doctors > > Wish I was a ghost in that room > > I would have tripped him as he walked out the door > > > > I will take my chances any day with a female doctor > > Female doctors are more compassionate > > Don't you ladies agree? > > > > Krista your not alone we are all > > looking for that one doctor that believes > > > > > > Craigs list... in every state ....and country: > > By: Dede > > > > Doctors needed for charity work. > > Expertise in enblock proceedure with use of drain tubes > > for explanting implanted devices for people that are very ill, > > and are also ill from their implanted devices. > > > > Honoring their hippocratic oath " First Do No Harm " > > is a must. All charity work will be tax deductible. > > There are many people in need of this help. > > > > So ill they cannot work and therefore have no funds > > available to be able to have this surgery. > > > > > > > > Well....I saw the endocrinologist today. What a waste of time! You > > all are right about that...they are basically worthless! I felt like > > he came into the room with a chip on his shoulder (like he had > > already read my chart and saw the tests I had already had done, and > > had already labeled me as a hypochondriac or something. He basically > > said that there is nothing wrong with my endocrine system (before he > > has even talked to me,) and then went on to lecture me for a good > > half hour about various things such as how the endocrine system works > > (like I am a dummy and didn't already know or something,) and how the > > saliva cortisol tests are worthless (he doesn't do them and won't > > look a them if a patient brings them in,) and maybe my fatigue is > > just being caused by stress or age (yeah, well I am only 30 years old > > buddy,)and how my symptoms could be related to any system in my body > > & there is no reason to think they are endocrine related. I think he > > already had it set in his head tha he wasn't going to help me, and > > that there was nothing wrong with me...before he even saw me. He > > told me that I just need to live with the fatigue and " learn how to > > adapt. " > > Anyway, I tried not to cry the entire time I was in there because he > > made me feel like such an idiot...like I was wasting his time or > > something. > > He ended up running an adrenal test.....I think just to get me out of > > his hair and also to torture me because it took...getting my blood > > taken, getting a shot, waiting a half hour and getting my blood > > tested again, then another half hour later taking blood AGAIN! I felt > > like a pin cushion. He said everything will probably come back normal > > but " we might as well do it while you are here. " He wouldn't even > > talk about possible sex hormones...he said as long as I am > > menstrating there is no problem. > > Needless to say, I won't be going back to the doctor again. I am > > tired of getting poked and prodded, told there is nothing wrong with > > me, and looked at like I am an idiot or something. Grrrrrrrrrr...... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Traci, Yes, you have had a good experience and I'm so glad for you. It's a nice little ray of sunshine to know that it's not so bad out there. Patty > From: sandy <dusty.com@...> > Subject: Krista and Friends > > Cc: dusty.com@... > Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 7:14 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krista you have a sweet > personality > I have bad luck with male > doctors > Wish I was a ghost in that > room > I would have tripped him as he > walked out the door >  > I will take my chances any day with > a female doctor > Female doctors are more > compassionate > Don't you ladies > agree? >  > Krista your not alone we are > all >  looking for that one doctor > that believes > >   >  > Craigs list... > in every > state ....and country: > By: > Dede > > Doctors > needed for charity work. > Expertise in enblock proceedure with > use of drain tubes > for explanting implanted devices for people that are very ill, > and are also ill from their implanted devices. > > Honoring their hippocratic oath " First Do No Harm " > is a must. All charity work > will be tax deductible. > There are many people in need of this > help. >  > So ill they cannot work and therefore have no funds > available > to be able to have this surgery. >  >  >  > Well....I saw the endocrinologist today. What a waste of time! You > > all are right about that...they are basically worthless! I felt like > he > came into the room with a chip on his shoulder (like he had > already read my > chart and saw the tests I had already had done, and > had already labeled me > as a hypochondriac or something. He basically > said that there is nothing > wrong with my endocrine system (before he > has even talked to me,) and then > went on to lecture me for a good > half hour about various things such as how > the endocrine system works > (like I am a dummy and didn't already know or > something,) and how the > saliva cortisol tests are worthless (he doesn't do > them and won't > look a them if a patient brings them in,) and maybe my > fatigue is > just being caused by stress or age (yeah, well I am only 30 years > old > buddy,)and how my symptoms could be related to any system in my body > > & there is no reason to think they are endocrine related. I think he > > already had it set in his head tha he wasn't going to help me, and > that > there was nothing wrong with me...before he even saw me. He > told me that I > just need to live with the fatigue and " learn how to > adapt. " > Anyway, I > tried not to cry the entire time I was in there because he > made me feel like > such an idiot...like I was wasting his time or > something. > He ended up > running an adrenal test.....I think just to get me out of > his hair and also > to torture me because it took...getting my blood > taken, getting a shot, > waiting a half hour and getting my blood > tested again, then another half > hour later taking blood AGAIN! I felt > like a pin cushion. He said everything > will probably come back normal > but " we might as well do it while you are > here. " He wouldn't even > talk about possible sex hormones...he said as long > as I am > menstrating there is no problem. > Needless to say, I won't be > going back to the doctor again. I am > tired of getting poked and prodded, > told there is nothing wrong with > me, and looked at like I am an idiot or > something. Grrrrrrrrrr. ..... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 A rarity, you are lucky, we all should have handsome doctors like Doc Brown ! Love D**************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 In a message dated 7/24/2008 12:37:09 AM Central Daylight Time, perfecthealth68@... writes: In my experience, it seems that "if it wasn't taught in medical school, then it doesn't exist." I would like to add to that, If they dont remember what they learned in medical school, then it doesnt exist.........or if they cheated their way through or slid thru it with a horseshoe ( luck ) in their back pocket, then it doesnt exist... One of the docs I worked for one time bragged that he almost flunked med school that he barely slid by.......and he always put in his adds he ran in the phone book and newspaper, that he was the best in town, or an expert, and things like that, also the same as the one that never did his own continueing medical education.....always flopped it down on my desk to do or someone elses......they were tests that came in the mail..... they were to fill them out and mail them back in, and if they passed, they got a certificate.......lame, huh? **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 MEN = M..ullets E...qualling N...othing The true airheads ! **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 WE should start a web site called: Doctor-Doctor, is anyone listening ? ? and put our stories and their name and locations so that people can know the truth about these people ( doctors ) and their inability to fully honor their hippocratic oath...."First Do NO Harm " **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Thanks for coming to my rescue PH! What are good friends for?! To understand that none of us are crazy and maybe it is the doctors that are!! HAHAHA!! I totally agree with everything you said. Love you, Krista > > From: sandy dusty.com@ > > Subject: Krista and Friends > > > > Cc: dusty.com@ > > Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 7:14 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krista you have a sweet > > personality > > I have bad luck with male > > doctors > > Wish I was a ghost in that > > room > > I would have tripped him as he > > walked out the door > > > > I will take my chances any day with > > a female doctor > > Female doctors are more > > compassionate > > Don't you ladies > > agree? > > > > Krista your not alone we are > > all > > looking for that one doctor > > that believes > > > > > > > > Craigs list... > > in every > > state ....and country: > > By: > > Dede > > > > Doctors > > needed for charity work. > > Expertise in enblock proceedure with > > use of drain tubes > > for explanting implanted devices for people that are very ill, > > and are also ill from their implanted devices. > > > > Honoring their hippocratic oath " First Do No Harm " > > is a must. All charity work > > will be tax deductible. > > There are many people in need of this > > help. > > > > So ill they cannot work and therefore have no funds > > available > > to be able to have this surgery. > > > > > > > > Well....I saw the endocrinologist today. What a waste of time! You > > > > all are right about that...they are basically worthless! I felt like > > he > > came into the room with a chip on his shoulder (like he had > > already read my > > chart and saw the tests I had already had done, and > > had already labeled me > > as a hypochondriac or something. He basically > > said that there is nothing > > wrong with my endocrine system (before he > > has even talked to me,) and then > > went on to lecture me for a good > > half hour about various things such as how > > the endocrine system works > > (like I am a dummy and didn't already know or > > something,) and how the > > saliva cortisol tests are worthless (he doesn't do > > them and won't > > look a them if a patient brings them in,) and maybe my > > fatigue is > > just being caused by stress or age (yeah, well I am only 30 years > > old > > buddy,)and how my symptoms could be related to any system in my body > > > > & there is no reason to think they are endocrine related. I think he > > > > already had it set in his head tha he wasn't going to help me, and > > that > > there was nothing wrong with me...before he even saw me. He > > told me that I > > just need to live with the fatigue and " learn how to > > adapt. " > > Anyway, I > > tried not to cry the entire time I was in there because he > > made me feel like > > such an idiot...like I was wasting his time or > > something. > > He ended up > > running an adrenal test.....I think just to get me out of > > his hair and also > > to torture me because it took...getting my blood > > taken, getting a shot, > > waiting a half hour and getting my blood > > tested again, then another half > > hour later taking blood AGAIN! I felt > > like a pin cushion. He said everything > > will probably come back normal > > but " we might as well do it while you are > > here. " He wouldn't even > > talk about possible sex hormones...he said as long > > as I am > > menstrating there is no problem. > > Needless to say, I won't be > > going back to the doctor again. I am > > tired of getting poked and prodded, > > told there is nothing wrong with > > me, and looked at like I am an idiot or > > something. Grrrrrrrrrr. ..... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Patty- I can't belive a GYNECOLOGIST would say something like that!! Aren't they supposed to be on OUR side?! I can't belive it! I'm pretty sure that's how that endocrinologist felt about me...like I was sick because I was just a hypochondriac woman that just needed to go on an antidepressant and get out of his office. It's really sad that way that we get treated by these doctors. > > > > > > Krista you have a sweet personality > > > I have bad luck with male doctors > > > Wish I was a ghost in that room > > > I would have tripped him as he walked out the door > > > > > > I will take my chances any day with a female doctor > > > Female doctors are more compassionate > > > Don't you ladies agree? > > > > > > Krista your not alone we are all > > > looking for that one doctor that believes > > > > > > > > > Craigs list... in every state ....and country: > > > By: Dede > > > > > > Doctors needed for charity work. > > > Expertise in enblock proceedure with use of drain tubes > > > for explanting implanted devices for people that are very ill, > > > and are also ill from their implanted devices. > > > > > > Honoring their hippocratic oath " First Do No Harm " > > > is a must. All charity work will be tax deductible. > > > There are many people in need of this help. > > > > > > So ill they cannot work and therefore have no funds > > > available to be able to have this surgery. > > > > > > > > > > > > Well....I saw the endocrinologist today. What a waste of time! > You > > > all are right about that...they are basically worthless! I felt > like > > > he came into the room with a chip on his shoulder (like he had > > > already read my chart and saw the tests I had already had done, > and > > > had already labeled me as a hypochondriac or something. He > basically > > > said that there is nothing wrong with my endocrine system (before > he > > > has even talked to me,) and then went on to lecture me for a good > > > half hour about various things such as how the endocrine system > works > > > (like I am a dummy and didn't already know or something,) and how > the > > > saliva cortisol tests are worthless (he doesn't do them and won't > > > look a them if a patient brings them in,) and maybe my fatigue is > > > just being caused by stress or age (yeah, well I am only 30 years > old > > > buddy,)and how my symptoms could be related to any system in my > body > > > & there is no reason to think they are endocrine related. I think > he > > > already had it set in his head tha he wasn't going to help me, > and > > > that there was nothing wrong with me...before he even saw me. He > > > told me that I just need to live with the fatigue and " learn how > to > > > adapt. " > > > Anyway, I tried not to cry the entire time I was in there because > he > > > made me feel like such an idiot...like I was wasting his time or > > > something. > > > He ended up running an adrenal test.....I think just to get me > out of > > > his hair and also to torture me because it took...getting my > blood > > > taken, getting a shot, waiting a half hour and getting my blood > > > tested again, then another half hour later taking blood AGAIN! I > felt > > > like a pin cushion. He said everything will probably come back > normal > > > but " we might as well do it while you are here. " He wouldn't even > > > talk about possible sex hormones...he said as long as I am > > > menstrating there is no problem. > > > Needless to say, I won't be going back to the doctor again. I am > > > tired of getting poked and prodded, told there is nothing wrong > with > > > me, and looked at like I am an idiot or something. > Grrrrrrrrrr...... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008  Oh Sandy, this is so cute....thank you for sharing...love you........Lea ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` Krista and Friends  Sending my buddy here to clean your doctors office Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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