Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 Can you supply links to good information about Miralax and it not being an inert drug? I am concerned about my daughter's doctors continuing to refute this and wanting her on it. We have tried other options but they have upset her seizure disorder and still resulted in major constipations issues. thanks for the help karen mommtlc <oldworldtile@...> wrote: " Instead of epidemics of measles and polio, we have epidemics of chronic autoimmune and neurological disease: In the last 20 years rates of asthma and attention-deficit disorder have doubled, diabetes and learning disabilities have tripled, chronic arthritis now affects nearly one in five Americans and autism has increased by 300 percent or more in many states. " ----Barbara Loe Fisher <http://whale.to/m/fisher8.html> I recently attended part of a DAN conference and I was very impressed with nearly every speaker I heard. One speaker, from Thoughtful House was a little less impressive because he mentioned Miralax as an appropriate drug and my research and experience is that it not an inert substance as it is advertised. Otherwise I found all of the presentations to be backed by tests and accurate science. Usually the tests were not double blind -- difficult to get parents to remove a therapy that is working. -- which leads some to say that therapies have not been tested, which is not accurate. I am a sceptic and I was won over. All you have to do is look at the statics - something is going on that can't be overlooked. > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > It has been quite awhile since I have posted, but I have > > > > continued > > > > > to follow this incredible group with interest. A quick update: > > > My > > > > > youngest, CJ (apraxia, hypotonia, SID-dx 19 mo's), is now 4yrs > > > old > > > > > and has been completely exited from speech and OT! That is > > not > > > to > > > > > say we won't still have work ahead of us-he still requires a > > > > > tremendous amount of vestibular input, and has some minor > > > sensory > > > > > issues, but he is a chatterbox, and it is thanks in great > > part > > > to > > > > > me finding this site and working like crazy with him. Thank > > God > > > > for > > > > > EFa's and this group! > > > > > > > > > > Because the knowledge here never ceases to amaze me, I am > > > turning > > > > to > > > > > you all for advice & help. I am so overwhelmed! My oldest > > son, > > > > now > > > > > 8 1/2, has ADHD and Dyslexia. He is not on any prescribed > > meds > > > > > because we don't want to go that route. He has major trouble > > > > > sleeping (up for the day between 4am-6am, crashes by 7pm), is > > a > > > > > generally worrisome kid, and a glass half empty kind of kid > > > too! > > > > He > > > > > is not defiant, but gets so frustrated with his inability to > > > focus > > > > > on his schoolwork that he cries. He is perpetually in motion. > > > We > > > > > did Feingold for about a year & it helped, but it was > > incredibly > > > > > difficult outside of the home and I was the only one who > > wanted > > > to > > > > > continue it. It actually heightened his anxiety,becasue he was > > > > > always afraid to eat ANYTHING anywhere and was very sad about > > > it. > > > > I > > > > > still do not allow any food dies or artificial falvorings, but > > > do > > > > > allow organic fruits, veggies, whole grains, & dairy. > > > > > He is a sweet,kind,sensitive kid, and I am watching him become > > > > more > > > > > unhappy as time goes on because of his inability to focus on > > > > school > > > > > work. I took him to a DAN doc, who said he has a yeast > > > overgrowth > > > > > in his intestine from antibiotics (he has been on only 2x in > > his > > > > > entire life!), and I have to go GFCF, sugar free, and give him > > > > TONS > > > > > of supplements (over & $400.00 worth so far!) as well as treat > > > him > > > > > with Nyastatin once I have him GFCF and sugar free. He said > > he > > > > had > > > > > no Lithium in his hair analysis, which contributes to > > > depression, > > > > so > > > > > I need to supplement, and also had extremely low sodium and > > > > > potassium. He also said he has *toxic* > > > > > levels of uranium,gadolinium, and antimony in his hair > > analysis > > > > that > > > > > he is going to want to *remove* down the road. My son sobbed > > > > > during the visit when told he'd have to do gfcf and sf. I am > > so > > > > > overwhelemed. I know we will not be able to stay on this > > > > > perpetually, so should I even bother? Should I just do the > > > > > supplements (efas, primrose oil, trytophan, p5p, digestive > > > > enzymes, > > > > > multi vitamin, zinc, lithium) and let him eat > > natural " healthy " > > > > > foods? I am already over $2000.00 out of pocket. He also > > said > > > > > that I should put my 4yr old, whom he has never seen, on GFCF > > & > > > > > sugar free because he is > > > > > apraxic! This Dan doc came highly recommended, but I am > > > starting > > > > > to wonder if they just prescribe GFCF for everyone no matter > > > what > > > > > the diagnosis. What do I do next? I am so overwhelmed by all > > > of > > > > > the research---enzymes, diet, supplements, meds, agghhh! I > > just > > > > > want to do the right thing for my son. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for any and all input, and for reading this long post! > > > > > > > > > > ~ in PA > > > > Re: GFCF/SF/ yeast/DAN/ for ADHD & Apraxia?-HELP! > > > > > > as one like you that is all for " all natural " if possible -I > > have to agree with . If your going to be doing all that, and > > all that, that is unproven, and all that, that is unproven, > > expensive, complicated -and not working (!) then why not meds? > > > > And if one DAN doctor prescribes the exact same things for a child > > who is severe autistic to one who has no issues...why can't we know > > who this is? I know it's probably not the same DAN doctor > > but same story -and with the amount of stuff he's got your son on, > > off, doing, > > taking and blood testing for...jeez! Just let me know this -is this > > DAN doctor a medical doctor, not a medical doctor, a nutritionist? > > One blood test fits all or what? > > > > And this is not a DAN bashing -it's called a " bad doctor " bashing. > > If someone talks like a duck as they say (quack) Any doctor who > > sees a child going downhill with what they are doing should know > > when it's time to refer to someone else. To me referral is a sign > > of a good MD. And I'm sure some of of the good doctors are DAN > > doctors. > > > > We too would have gone the medication route for our ADHD son Dakota > > if fish oils didn't work. In this group for years I was so > > terrified to really let everyone know the dosages my kids were on > > because we all started on the same " one capsule " a day. I can tell > > you for a child your son's age however -one capsule of ProEFA -or > > even two for that matter just isn't going to cut it to make the > > difference. As you will see in the following messages we have > > Dakota on 5 capsules of ProEFA and 5 capsules of ProEPA every day. > > It's working amazing for him in that he's basically an A or high B > > student -solid A when he tries, very social with tons of friends > > and with a brilliant mind for architecture, imagination. He wants > > to own Disney when he grows up and design all the roller coasters. > > > > Dakota does not need any medications and I've told both my boys that > > even if they don't " need " the EFAs as they get older they should > > continue to take them for the rest of their lives because heart > > disease runs in both their mom and dad's family. > > > > If it were me I'd stop whatever you are able to stop without causing > > harm and just try the fish oils. That's all we needed to do. In > > fact Dakota's last neuroMD Dr. Sinha was so shocked by Dakota's > > change she asked for the formula and if she could give some of her > > other patients my number! But my favorite quote from her " There's > > no reason for me to see Dakota again he is doing that amazing. > > He'll probably make a great doctor. " (Dakota tests in the 99th > > percentile -he really is brilliant -can you tell he's my baby?!! ) > > > > Here's the archives on this -let me know if you have other questions! > > > > > > From: " kiddietalk " kiddietalk@ > > Date: Sat May 28, 2005 11:49 pm > > Subject: Re: [ ], what kind of EFA are your > > kids taking? kiddietalk > > > > My boys probably consume more EFAs than what I posted even because > > we eat lots of seafood in our family. Dakota and Tanner both love > > sushi, and Tanner's favorite sandwich to order when we go out to > > dinner is a blackened dolphin (mahi mahi -the fish not the mammal- > > the local fish where we live) > > > > I find french fry, potato chip and doughnut oil scary -and because > > they don't sell it in capsules people don't think much about how > > much they consume a day. Tanner gets in reality less then a > > tablespoon a day of fish oil. > > > > If you check the archives -this may be the first time I've posted my > > boy's dosage because what works for my boys at 8 and 10 years old > > probably would be too high for those just starting. Highest amount > > is what Tanner is taking now for him. Any higher and he starts to > > regress in speech. He's taking what is the best dosage for him > > right now. After a few years you get to know what works best. > > Highest for humans? Read some of the stats below. I don't know if > > anyone has the highest dosage. Then again -too much water you drown. > > There's always such a thing as too much of a good thing. > > > > Side effects that are positive other than what everyone knows > > already -My children can be around someone with strept throat and > > don't get sick -I do credit that to the EFAs too. They are doing > > amazing in school and are very happy little boys. As I advise > > here -all was discussed with my boy's neuroMDs. In the archives in > > fact is the story of how pediatric neurologist Dr. Sinha asked me if > > she can write down the formula and dosage we are using with Dakota > > she was so amazed at the changes in him -she had thought he needed > > medication that much. And side effects for adults? In addition to > > what everyone knows like more focus, healthy, better recall and > > memory etc. it makes you sharper at everything -like even when you > > go to a casino party. (I won 15,000 dollars of play money tonight > > and came in second place out of a ton of people and never played > > craps before in my life -Glenn said now if I can just do that with > > real gambling and not just a party!) > > > > And about dosage...and as I said just yesterday. Dr. Stoll is the > > one that opened my eyes to higher dosages of EFAs. So speaking of > > Dr. Stoll -here are some quotes from his book that changed my > > opinion about what a " high " dosage is! > > > > 15 pages with references to Eskimos in this book: > > > > 1. on Page 43: > > " ... omega-6 to omega-3 ratios (approximately 1 to 1) are protected > > from many of the scourges of the modern age. Greenland Eskimos > > eating their traditional diet of fish, whale, and seal, for example, > > have extremely low rates of heart disease. Their blood ... " > > 2. on Page 50: > > " ... modern hunter- gatherer populations with diets closer to that > > of our evolutionary past. It was the classic study of Greenland > > Eskimos, conducted in the 1970s that drew attention to high > > concentrations of omega-3 fatty acids in their diets, ultimately > > linking the ... " > > 3. on Page 56: > > " ... plenty of omega-3 fatty acids. Today, similar quantities of > > omega-3 fatty acids are consumed by only a few groups, including > > Eskimos and inhabitants of Japanese fishing villages (see Table 3- > > 1). ... " > > 4. on Page 79: > > " ... great importance for public health, as diabetes is a huge cause > > of death and disability. Piqued by finding the Inuit Eskimos have > > surprisingly low rates of adult-onset diabetes, a team from > > Australia's Garvan Institute of Medical Research fed laboratory rats > > a ... " > > 5. on Page 83: > > " ... chapter 6.) Researchers first connected essential fatty acid > > imbalance to autoimmune disease in the 1970s, when they realized > > that Greenland Eskimos consuming diets high in omega-3 fatty acids > > rarely suffered from arthritis, asthma, or other disorders > > associated with excess inflammation. Since ... " > > 6. on Page 97: > > " ... the two urban populations, 0.68 percent for the rural region > > and 0.44 percent for the pastoral region. Studies of Inuit Eskimos > > as well as Malaysian, Dominican, and Nigerian women, all coastal > > populations , have shown similar results. Compare this to the ... " > > 7. on Page 102: > > " ... than 3.5 grains per day of EPA and DHA combined, have been > > given to pregnant women in research studies. Nevertheless, Eskimo > > women traditionally consume an average of 400 grams of seal and fish > > per day (slightly less than a pound). This ... " > > 8. on Page 209: > > " ... using EPA in dosages exceeding 8 grams per day, but higher > > levels seem to be safe, since the traditional Greenland Eskimo diet > > consisted of up to 14 grams per day. Anyone taking an anticlotting > > agent such as warfarin (Coumadin), or high ... " > > 9. from Back Matter: > > " ... Heart Trial, " The Lancet 1990;21;336:129-33. A. J. Parkinson et > > al., " Elevated concentrations of plasma w-3 polyunsaturated fatty > > acids among Alaskan Eskimos, " Am J Clin Nutr 1994;59:384-88. E. G. > > Perkins and W J. Visek, eds., Dietary Fats and Health (Champaign , > > Ill.: ... " > > 10. from Back Matter: > > " ... domestic meats, " Int y Biochem 1970;1:295-305. J. Dyerberg and > > H. O. Bang, " Hemostatic function and platelet polyunsaturated fatty > > acids in Eskimos, " The Lancet 1979;2:433-35. S. B. Eaton and M. J. > > Konner, " Paleolithic nutrition revisited: a twelve- year > > retrospective on its nature ... " > > > > The Omega-3 Connection: The Groundbreaking Antidepression Diet and > > Brain Program > > by M.D., L. Stoll > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > Anyway -sounds like you are on the right track > > Just keep going slow with increase and observe after each change. > > > > ===== > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 Can you supply links to good information about Miralax and it not being an inert drug? I am concerned about my daughter's doctors continuing to refute this and wanting her on it. We have tried other options but they have upset her seizure disorder and still resulted in major constipations issues. thanks for the help karen mommtlc <oldworldtile@...> wrote: " Instead of epidemics of measles and polio, we have epidemics of chronic autoimmune and neurological disease: In the last 20 years rates of asthma and attention-deficit disorder have doubled, diabetes and learning disabilities have tripled, chronic arthritis now affects nearly one in five Americans and autism has increased by 300 percent or more in many states. " ----Barbara Loe Fisher <http://whale.to/m/fisher8.html> I recently attended part of a DAN conference and I was very impressed with nearly every speaker I heard. One speaker, from Thoughtful House was a little less impressive because he mentioned Miralax as an appropriate drug and my research and experience is that it not an inert substance as it is advertised. Otherwise I found all of the presentations to be backed by tests and accurate science. Usually the tests were not double blind -- difficult to get parents to remove a therapy that is working. -- which leads some to say that therapies have not been tested, which is not accurate. I am a sceptic and I was won over. All you have to do is look at the statics - something is going on that can't be overlooked. > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > It has been quite awhile since I have posted, but I have > > > > continued > > > > > to follow this incredible group with interest. A quick update: > > > My > > > > > youngest, CJ (apraxia, hypotonia, SID-dx 19 mo's), is now 4yrs > > > old > > > > > and has been completely exited from speech and OT! That is > > not > > > to > > > > > say we won't still have work ahead of us-he still requires a > > > > > tremendous amount of vestibular input, and has some minor > > > sensory > > > > > issues, but he is a chatterbox, and it is thanks in great > > part > > > to > > > > > me finding this site and working like crazy with him. Thank > > God > > > > for > > > > > EFa's and this group! > > > > > > > > > > Because the knowledge here never ceases to amaze me, I am > > > turning > > > > to > > > > > you all for advice & help. I am so overwhelmed! My oldest > > son, > > > > now > > > > > 8 1/2, has ADHD and Dyslexia. He is not on any prescribed > > meds > > > > > because we don't want to go that route. He has major trouble > > > > > sleeping (up for the day between 4am-6am, crashes by 7pm), is > > a > > > > > generally worrisome kid, and a glass half empty kind of kid > > > too! > > > > He > > > > > is not defiant, but gets so frustrated with his inability to > > > focus > > > > > on his schoolwork that he cries. He is perpetually in motion. > > > We > > > > > did Feingold for about a year & it helped, but it was > > incredibly > > > > > difficult outside of the home and I was the only one who > > wanted > > > to > > > > > continue it. It actually heightened his anxiety,becasue he was > > > > > always afraid to eat ANYTHING anywhere and was very sad about > > > it. > > > > I > > > > > still do not allow any food dies or artificial falvorings, but > > > do > > > > > allow organic fruits, veggies, whole grains, & dairy. > > > > > He is a sweet,kind,sensitive kid, and I am watching him become > > > > more > > > > > unhappy as time goes on because of his inability to focus on > > > > school > > > > > work. I took him to a DAN doc, who said he has a yeast > > > overgrowth > > > > > in his intestine from antibiotics (he has been on only 2x in > > his > > > > > entire life!), and I have to go GFCF, sugar free, and give him > > > > TONS > > > > > of supplements (over & $400.00 worth so far!) as well as treat > > > him > > > > > with Nyastatin once I have him GFCF and sugar free. He said > > he > > > > had > > > > > no Lithium in his hair analysis, which contributes to > > > depression, > > > > so > > > > > I need to supplement, and also had extremely low sodium and > > > > > potassium. He also said he has *toxic* > > > > > levels of uranium,gadolinium, and antimony in his hair > > analysis > > > > that > > > > > he is going to want to *remove* down the road. My son sobbed > > > > > during the visit when told he'd have to do gfcf and sf. I am > > so > > > > > overwhelemed. I know we will not be able to stay on this > > > > > perpetually, so should I even bother? Should I just do the > > > > > supplements (efas, primrose oil, trytophan, p5p, digestive > > > > enzymes, > > > > > multi vitamin, zinc, lithium) and let him eat > > natural " healthy " > > > > > foods? I am already over $2000.00 out of pocket. He also > > said > > > > > that I should put my 4yr old, whom he has never seen, on GFCF > > & > > > > > sugar free because he is > > > > > apraxic! This Dan doc came highly recommended, but I am > > > starting > > > > > to wonder if they just prescribe GFCF for everyone no matter > > > what > > > > > the diagnosis. What do I do next? I am so overwhelmed by all > > > of > > > > > the research---enzymes, diet, supplements, meds, agghhh! I > > just > > > > > want to do the right thing for my son. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for any and all input, and for reading this long post! > > > > > > > > > > ~ in PA > > > > Re: GFCF/SF/ yeast/DAN/ for ADHD & Apraxia?-HELP! > > > > > > as one like you that is all for " all natural " if possible -I > > have to agree with . If your going to be doing all that, and > > all that, that is unproven, and all that, that is unproven, > > expensive, complicated -and not working (!) then why not meds? > > > > And if one DAN doctor prescribes the exact same things for a child > > who is severe autistic to one who has no issues...why can't we know > > who this is? I know it's probably not the same DAN doctor > > but same story -and with the amount of stuff he's got your son on, > > off, doing, > > taking and blood testing for...jeez! Just let me know this -is this > > DAN doctor a medical doctor, not a medical doctor, a nutritionist? > > One blood test fits all or what? > > > > And this is not a DAN bashing -it's called a " bad doctor " bashing. > > If someone talks like a duck as they say (quack) Any doctor who > > sees a child going downhill with what they are doing should know > > when it's time to refer to someone else. To me referral is a sign > > of a good MD. And I'm sure some of of the good doctors are DAN > > doctors. > > > > We too would have gone the medication route for our ADHD son Dakota > > if fish oils didn't work. In this group for years I was so > > terrified to really let everyone know the dosages my kids were on > > because we all started on the same " one capsule " a day. I can tell > > you for a child your son's age however -one capsule of ProEFA -or > > even two for that matter just isn't going to cut it to make the > > difference. As you will see in the following messages we have > > Dakota on 5 capsules of ProEFA and 5 capsules of ProEPA every day. > > It's working amazing for him in that he's basically an A or high B > > student -solid A when he tries, very social with tons of friends > > and with a brilliant mind for architecture, imagination. He wants > > to own Disney when he grows up and design all the roller coasters. > > > > Dakota does not need any medications and I've told both my boys that > > even if they don't " need " the EFAs as they get older they should > > continue to take them for the rest of their lives because heart > > disease runs in both their mom and dad's family. > > > > If it were me I'd stop whatever you are able to stop without causing > > harm and just try the fish oils. That's all we needed to do. In > > fact Dakota's last neuroMD Dr. Sinha was so shocked by Dakota's > > change she asked for the formula and if she could give some of her > > other patients my number! But my favorite quote from her " There's > > no reason for me to see Dakota again he is doing that amazing. > > He'll probably make a great doctor. " (Dakota tests in the 99th > > percentile -he really is brilliant -can you tell he's my baby?!! ) > > > > Here's the archives on this -let me know if you have other questions! > > > > > > From: " kiddietalk " kiddietalk@ > > Date: Sat May 28, 2005 11:49 pm > > Subject: Re: [ ], what kind of EFA are your > > kids taking? kiddietalk > > > > My boys probably consume more EFAs than what I posted even because > > we eat lots of seafood in our family. Dakota and Tanner both love > > sushi, and Tanner's favorite sandwich to order when we go out to > > dinner is a blackened dolphin (mahi mahi -the fish not the mammal- > > the local fish where we live) > > > > I find french fry, potato chip and doughnut oil scary -and because > > they don't sell it in capsules people don't think much about how > > much they consume a day. Tanner gets in reality less then a > > tablespoon a day of fish oil. > > > > If you check the archives -this may be the first time I've posted my > > boy's dosage because what works for my boys at 8 and 10 years old > > probably would be too high for those just starting. Highest amount > > is what Tanner is taking now for him. Any higher and he starts to > > regress in speech. He's taking what is the best dosage for him > > right now. After a few years you get to know what works best. > > Highest for humans? Read some of the stats below. I don't know if > > anyone has the highest dosage. Then again -too much water you drown. > > There's always such a thing as too much of a good thing. > > > > Side effects that are positive other than what everyone knows > > already -My children can be around someone with strept throat and > > don't get sick -I do credit that to the EFAs too. They are doing > > amazing in school and are very happy little boys. As I advise > > here -all was discussed with my boy's neuroMDs. In the archives in > > fact is the story of how pediatric neurologist Dr. Sinha asked me if > > she can write down the formula and dosage we are using with Dakota > > she was so amazed at the changes in him -she had thought he needed > > medication that much. And side effects for adults? In addition to > > what everyone knows like more focus, healthy, better recall and > > memory etc. it makes you sharper at everything -like even when you > > go to a casino party. (I won 15,000 dollars of play money tonight > > and came in second place out of a ton of people and never played > > craps before in my life -Glenn said now if I can just do that with > > real gambling and not just a party!) > > > > And about dosage...and as I said just yesterday. Dr. Stoll is the > > one that opened my eyes to higher dosages of EFAs. So speaking of > > Dr. Stoll -here are some quotes from his book that changed my > > opinion about what a " high " dosage is! > > > > 15 pages with references to Eskimos in this book: > > > > 1. on Page 43: > > " ... omega-6 to omega-3 ratios (approximately 1 to 1) are protected > > from many of the scourges of the modern age. Greenland Eskimos > > eating their traditional diet of fish, whale, and seal, for example, > > have extremely low rates of heart disease. Their blood ... " > > 2. on Page 50: > > " ... modern hunter- gatherer populations with diets closer to that > > of our evolutionary past. It was the classic study of Greenland > > Eskimos, conducted in the 1970s that drew attention to high > > concentrations of omega-3 fatty acids in their diets, ultimately > > linking the ... " > > 3. on Page 56: > > " ... plenty of omega-3 fatty acids. Today, similar quantities of > > omega-3 fatty acids are consumed by only a few groups, including > > Eskimos and inhabitants of Japanese fishing villages (see Table 3- > > 1). ... " > > 4. on Page 79: > > " ... great importance for public health, as diabetes is a huge cause > > of death and disability. Piqued by finding the Inuit Eskimos have > > surprisingly low rates of adult-onset diabetes, a team from > > Australia's Garvan Institute of Medical Research fed laboratory rats > > a ... " > > 5. on Page 83: > > " ... chapter 6.) Researchers first connected essential fatty acid > > imbalance to autoimmune disease in the 1970s, when they realized > > that Greenland Eskimos consuming diets high in omega-3 fatty acids > > rarely suffered from arthritis, asthma, or other disorders > > associated with excess inflammation. Since ... " > > 6. on Page 97: > > " ... the two urban populations, 0.68 percent for the rural region > > and 0.44 percent for the pastoral region. Studies of Inuit Eskimos > > as well as Malaysian, Dominican, and Nigerian women, all coastal > > populations , have shown similar results. Compare this to the ... " > > 7. on Page 102: > > " ... than 3.5 grains per day of EPA and DHA combined, have been > > given to pregnant women in research studies. Nevertheless, Eskimo > > women traditionally consume an average of 400 grams of seal and fish > > per day (slightly less than a pound). This ... " > > 8. on Page 209: > > " ... using EPA in dosages exceeding 8 grams per day, but higher > > levels seem to be safe, since the traditional Greenland Eskimo diet > > consisted of up to 14 grams per day. Anyone taking an anticlotting > > agent such as warfarin (Coumadin), or high ... " > > 9. from Back Matter: > > " ... Heart Trial, " The Lancet 1990;21;336:129-33. A. J. Parkinson et > > al., " Elevated concentrations of plasma w-3 polyunsaturated fatty > > acids among Alaskan Eskimos, " Am J Clin Nutr 1994;59:384-88. E. G. > > Perkins and W J. Visek, eds., Dietary Fats and Health (Champaign , > > Ill.: ... " > > 10. from Back Matter: > > " ... domestic meats, " Int y Biochem 1970;1:295-305. J. Dyerberg and > > H. O. Bang, " Hemostatic function and platelet polyunsaturated fatty > > acids in Eskimos, " The Lancet 1979;2:433-35. S. B. Eaton and M. J. > > Konner, " Paleolithic nutrition revisited: a twelve- year > > retrospective on its nature ... " > > > > The Omega-3 Connection: The Groundbreaking Antidepression Diet and > > Brain Program > > by M.D., L. Stoll > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > Anyway -sounds like you are on the right track > > Just keep going slow with increase and observe after each change. > > > > ===== > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Please join the group miralax <miralax/?yguid=77953181> It's not a large group but there's a lot of sharing of information. I remember reading a post regarding a child with seizures - -they were told to keep the magnesium to 300mg per day. That amount with 3000 mg vit c might be enough to get your daughter off the stuff. I don't understand all the chemistry involved -- but the miralax that is absorbed is converted into oxalalic crystals -- which are very damaging to the body. My belief is that in the case of a damaged gut the % of PEG absorbed is much higher than they say. Also, Dana has a page on Dana's View - Miralax <http://www.danasview.net/miralax.htm> I am amazed at how well my son did after getting him off of the stuff. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > It has been quite awhile since I have posted, but I have > > > > > continued > > > > > > to follow this incredible group with interest. A quick update: > > > > My > > > > > > youngest, CJ (apraxia, hypotonia, SID-dx 19 mo's), is now 4yrs > > > > old > > > > > > and has been completely exited from speech and OT! That is > > > not > > > > to > > > > > > say we won't still have work ahead of us-he still requires a > > > > > > tremendous amount of vestibular input, and has some minor > > > > sensory > > > > > > issues, but he is a chatterbox, and it is thanks in great > > > part > > > > to > > > > > > me finding this site and working like crazy with him. Thank > > > God > > > > > for > > > > > > EFa's and this group! > > > > > > > > > > > > Because the knowledge here never ceases to amaze me, I am > > > > turning > > > > > to > > > > > > you all for advice & help. I am so overwhelmed! My oldest > > > son, > > > > > now > > > > > > 8 1/2, has ADHD and Dyslexia. He is not on any prescribed > > > meds > > > > > > because we don't want to go that route. He has major trouble > > > > > > sleeping (up for the day between 4am-6am, crashes by 7pm), is > > > a > > > > > > generally worrisome kid, and a glass half empty kind of kid > > > > too! > > > > > He > > > > > > is not defiant, but gets so frustrated with his inability to > > > > focus > > > > > > on his schoolwork that he cries. He is perpetually in motion. > > > > We > > > > > > did Feingold for about a year & it helped, but it was > > > incredibly > > > > > > difficult outside of the home and I was the only one who > > > wanted > > > > to > > > > > > continue it. It actually heightened his anxiety,becasue he was > > > > > > always afraid to eat ANYTHING anywhere and was very sad about > > > > it. > > > > > I > > > > > > still do not allow any food dies or artificial falvorings, but > > > > do > > > > > > allow organic fruits, veggies, whole grains, & dairy. > > > > > > He is a sweet,kind,sensitive kid, and I am watching him become > > > > > more > > > > > > unhappy as time goes on because of his inability to focus on > > > > > school > > > > > > work. I took him to a DAN doc, who said he has a yeast > > > > overgrowth > > > > > > in his intestine from antibiotics (he has been on only 2x in > > > his > > > > > > entire life!), and I have to go GFCF, sugar free, and give him > > > > > TONS > > > > > > of supplements (over & $400.00 worth so far!) as well as treat > > > > him > > > > > > with Nyastatin once I have him GFCF and sugar free. He said > > > he > > > > > had > > > > > > no Lithium in his hair analysis, which contributes to > > > > depression, > > > > > so > > > > > > I need to supplement, and also had extremely low sodium and > > > > > > potassium. He also said he has *toxic* > > > > > > levels of uranium,gadolinium, and antimony in his hair > > > analysis > > > > > that > > > > > > he is going to want to *remove* down the road. My son sobbed > > > > > > during the visit when told he'd have to do gfcf and sf. I am > > > so > > > > > > overwhelemed. I know we will not be able to stay on this > > > > > > perpetually, so should I even bother? Should I just do the > > > > > > supplements (efas, primrose oil, trytophan, p5p, digestive > > > > > enzymes, > > > > > > multi vitamin, zinc, lithium) and let him eat > > > natural " healthy " > > > > > > foods? I am already over $2000.00 out of pocket. He also > > > said > > > > > > that I should put my 4yr old, whom he has never seen, on GFCF > > > & > > > > > > sugar free because he is > > > > > > apraxic! This Dan doc came highly recommended, but I am > > > > starting > > > > > > to wonder if they just prescribe GFCF for everyone no matter > > > > what > > > > > > the diagnosis. What do I do next? I am so overwhelmed by all > > > > of > > > > > > the research---enzymes, diet, supplements, meds, agghhh! I > > > just > > > > > > want to do the right thing for my son. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for any and all input, and for reading this long post! > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ in PA > > > > > > Re: GFCF/SF/ yeast/DAN/ for ADHD & Apraxia?-HELP! > > > > > > > > > as one like you that is all for " all natural " if possible -I > > > have to agree with . If your going to be doing all that, and > > > all that, that is unproven, and all that, that is unproven, > > > expensive, complicated -and not working (!) then why not meds? > > > > > > And if one DAN doctor prescribes the exact same things for a child > > > who is severe autistic to one who has no issues...why can't we know > > > who this is? I know it's probably not the same DAN doctor > > > but same story -and with the amount of stuff he's got your son on, > > > off, doing, > > > taking and blood testing for...jeez! Just let me know this -is this > > > DAN doctor a medical doctor, not a medical doctor, a nutritionist? > > > One blood test fits all or what? > > > > > > And this is not a DAN bashing -it's called a " bad doctor " bashing. > > > If someone talks like a duck as they say (quack) Any doctor who > > > sees a child going downhill with what they are doing should know > > > when it's time to refer to someone else. To me referral is a sign > > > of a good MD. And I'm sure some of of the good doctors are DAN > > > doctors. > > > > > > We too would have gone the medication route for our ADHD son Dakota > > > if fish oils didn't work. In this group for years I was so > > > terrified to really let everyone know the dosages my kids were on > > > because we all started on the same " one capsule " a day. I can tell > > > you for a child your son's age however -one capsule of ProEFA -or > > > even two for that matter just isn't going to cut it to make the > > > difference. As you will see in the following messages we have > > > Dakota on 5 capsules of ProEFA and 5 capsules of ProEPA every day. > > > It's working amazing for him in that he's basically an A or high B > > > student -solid A when he tries, very social with tons of friends > > > and with a brilliant mind for architecture, imagination. He wants > > > to own Disney when he grows up and design all the roller coasters. > > > > > > Dakota does not need any medications and I've told both my boys that > > > even if they don't " need " the EFAs as they get older they should > > > continue to take them for the rest of their lives because heart > > > disease runs in both their mom and dad's family. > > > > > > If it were me I'd stop whatever you are able to stop without causing > > > harm and just try the fish oils. That's all we needed to do. In > > > fact Dakota's last neuroMD Dr. Sinha was so shocked by Dakota's > > > change she asked for the formula and if she could give some of her > > > other patients my number! But my favorite quote from her " There's > > > no reason for me to see Dakota again he is doing that amazing. > > > He'll probably make a great doctor. " (Dakota tests in the 99th > > > percentile -he really is brilliant -can you tell he's my baby?!! ) > > > > > > Here's the archives on this -let me know if you have other > questions! > > > > > > > > > From: " kiddietalk " kiddietalk@ > > > Date: Sat May 28, 2005 11:49 pm > > > Subject: Re: [ ], what kind of EFA are your > > > kids taking? kiddietalk > > > > > > My boys probably consume more EFAs than what I posted even because > > > we eat lots of seafood in our family. Dakota and Tanner both love > > > sushi, and Tanner's favorite sandwich to order when we go out to > > > dinner is a blackened dolphin (mahi mahi -the fish not the mammal- > > > the local fish where we live) > > > > > > I find french fry, potato chip and doughnut oil scary -and because > > > they don't sell it in capsules people don't think much about how > > > much they consume a day. Tanner gets in reality less then a > > > tablespoon a day of fish oil. > > > > > > If you check the archives -this may be the first time I've posted my > > > boy's dosage because what works for my boys at 8 and 10 years old > > > probably would be too high for those just starting. Highest amount > > > is what Tanner is taking now for him. Any higher and he starts to > > > regress in speech. He's taking what is the best dosage for him > > > right now. After a few years you get to know what works best. > > > Highest for humans? Read some of the stats below. I don't know if > > > anyone has the highest dosage. Then again -too much water you drown. > > > There's always such a thing as too much of a good thing. > > > > > > Side effects that are positive other than what everyone knows > > > already -My children can be around someone with strept throat and > > > don't get sick -I do credit that to the EFAs too. They are doing > > > amazing in school and are very happy little boys. As I advise > > > here -all was discussed with my boy's neuroMDs. In the archives in > > > fact is the story of how pediatric neurologist Dr. Sinha asked me if > > > she can write down the formula and dosage we are using with Dakota > > > she was so amazed at the changes in him -she had thought he needed > > > medication that much. And side effects for adults? In addition to > > > what everyone knows like more focus, healthy, better recall and > > > memory etc. it makes you sharper at everything -like even when you > > > go to a casino party. (I won 15,000 dollars of play money tonight > > > and came in second place out of a ton of people and never played > > > craps before in my life -Glenn said now if I can just do that with > > > real gambling and not just a party!) > > > > > > And about dosage...and as I said just yesterday. Dr. Stoll is the > > > one that opened my eyes to higher dosages of EFAs. So speaking of > > > Dr. Stoll -here are some quotes from his book that changed my > > > opinion about what a " high " dosage is! > > > > > > 15 pages with references to Eskimos in this book: > > > > > > 1. on Page 43: > > > " ... omega-6 to omega-3 ratios (approximately 1 to 1) are protected > > > from many of the scourges of the modern age. Greenland Eskimos > > > eating their traditional diet of fish, whale, and seal, for example, > > > have extremely low rates of heart disease. Their blood ... " > > > 2. on Page 50: > > > " ... modern hunter- gatherer populations with diets closer to that > > > of our evolutionary past. It was the classic study of Greenland > > > Eskimos, conducted in the 1970s that drew attention to high > > > concentrations of omega-3 fatty acids in their diets, ultimately > > > linking the ... " > > > 3. on Page 56: > > > " ... plenty of omega-3 fatty acids. Today, similar quantities of > > > omega-3 fatty acids are consumed by only a few groups, including > > > Eskimos and inhabitants of Japanese fishing villages (see Table 3- > > > 1). ... " > > > 4. on Page 79: > > > " ... great importance for public health, as diabetes is a huge cause > > > of death and disability. Piqued by finding the Inuit Eskimos have > > > surprisingly low rates of adult-onset diabetes, a team from > > > Australia's Garvan Institute of Medical Research fed laboratory rats > > > a ... " > > > 5. on Page 83: > > > " ... chapter 6.) Researchers first connected essential fatty acid > > > imbalance to autoimmune disease in the 1970s, when they realized > > > that Greenland Eskimos consuming diets high in omega-3 fatty acids > > > rarely suffered from arthritis, asthma, or other disorders > > > associated with excess inflammation. Since ... " > > > 6. on Page 97: > > > " ... the two urban populations, 0.68 percent for the rural region > > > and 0.44 percent for the pastoral region. Studies of Inuit Eskimos > > > as well as Malaysian, Dominican, and Nigerian women, all coastal > > > populations , have shown similar results. Compare this to the ... " > > > 7. on Page 102: > > > " ... than 3.5 grains per day of EPA and DHA combined, have been > > > given to pregnant women in research studies. Nevertheless, Eskimo > > > women traditionally consume an average of 400 grams of seal and fish > > > per day (slightly less than a pound). This ... " > > > 8. on Page 209: > > > " ... using EPA in dosages exceeding 8 grams per day, but higher > > > levels seem to be safe, since the traditional Greenland Eskimo diet > > > consisted of up to 14 grams per day. Anyone taking an anticlotting > > > agent such as warfarin (Coumadin), or high ... " > > > 9. from Back Matter: > > > " ... Heart Trial, " The Lancet 1990;21;336:129-33. A. J. Parkinson et > > > al., " Elevated concentrations of plasma w-3 polyunsaturated fatty > > > acids among Alaskan Eskimos, " Am J Clin Nutr 1994;59:384-88. E. G. > > > Perkins and W J. Visek, eds., Dietary Fats and Health (Champaign , > > > Ill.: ... " > > > 10. from Back Matter: > > > " ... domestic meats, " Int y Biochem 1970;1:295-305. J. Dyerberg and > > > H. O. Bang, " Hemostatic function and platelet polyunsaturated fatty > > > acids in Eskimos, " The Lancet 1979;2:433-35. S. B. Eaton and M. J. > > > Konner, " Paleolithic nutrition revisited: a twelve- year > > > retrospective on its nature ... " > > > > > > The Omega-3 Connection: The Groundbreaking Antidepression Diet and > > > Brain Program > > > by M.D., L. Stoll > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > Anyway -sounds like you are on the right track > > > Just keep going slow with increase and observe after each change. > > > > > > ===== > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Please join the group miralax <miralax/?yguid=77953181> It's not a large group but there's a lot of sharing of information. I remember reading a post regarding a child with seizures - -they were told to keep the magnesium to 300mg per day. That amount with 3000 mg vit c might be enough to get your daughter off the stuff. I don't understand all the chemistry involved -- but the miralax that is absorbed is converted into oxalalic crystals -- which are very damaging to the body. My belief is that in the case of a damaged gut the % of PEG absorbed is much higher than they say. Also, Dana has a page on Dana's View - Miralax <http://www.danasview.net/miralax.htm> I am amazed at how well my son did after getting him off of the stuff. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > It has been quite awhile since I have posted, but I have > > > > > continued > > > > > > to follow this incredible group with interest. A quick update: > > > > My > > > > > > youngest, CJ (apraxia, hypotonia, SID-dx 19 mo's), is now 4yrs > > > > old > > > > > > and has been completely exited from speech and OT! That is > > > not > > > > to > > > > > > say we won't still have work ahead of us-he still requires a > > > > > > tremendous amount of vestibular input, and has some minor > > > > sensory > > > > > > issues, but he is a chatterbox, and it is thanks in great > > > part > > > > to > > > > > > me finding this site and working like crazy with him. Thank > > > God > > > > > for > > > > > > EFa's and this group! > > > > > > > > > > > > Because the knowledge here never ceases to amaze me, I am > > > > turning > > > > > to > > > > > > you all for advice & help. I am so overwhelmed! My oldest > > > son, > > > > > now > > > > > > 8 1/2, has ADHD and Dyslexia. He is not on any prescribed > > > meds > > > > > > because we don't want to go that route. He has major trouble > > > > > > sleeping (up for the day between 4am-6am, crashes by 7pm), is > > > a > > > > > > generally worrisome kid, and a glass half empty kind of kid > > > > too! > > > > > He > > > > > > is not defiant, but gets so frustrated with his inability to > > > > focus > > > > > > on his schoolwork that he cries. He is perpetually in motion. > > > > We > > > > > > did Feingold for about a year & it helped, but it was > > > incredibly > > > > > > difficult outside of the home and I was the only one who > > > wanted > > > > to > > > > > > continue it. It actually heightened his anxiety,becasue he was > > > > > > always afraid to eat ANYTHING anywhere and was very sad about > > > > it. > > > > > I > > > > > > still do not allow any food dies or artificial falvorings, but > > > > do > > > > > > allow organic fruits, veggies, whole grains, & dairy. > > > > > > He is a sweet,kind,sensitive kid, and I am watching him become > > > > > more > > > > > > unhappy as time goes on because of his inability to focus on > > > > > school > > > > > > work. I took him to a DAN doc, who said he has a yeast > > > > overgrowth > > > > > > in his intestine from antibiotics (he has been on only 2x in > > > his > > > > > > entire life!), and I have to go GFCF, sugar free, and give him > > > > > TONS > > > > > > of supplements (over & $400.00 worth so far!) as well as treat > > > > him > > > > > > with Nyastatin once I have him GFCF and sugar free. He said > > > he > > > > > had > > > > > > no Lithium in his hair analysis, which contributes to > > > > depression, > > > > > so > > > > > > I need to supplement, and also had extremely low sodium and > > > > > > potassium. He also said he has *toxic* > > > > > > levels of uranium,gadolinium, and antimony in his hair > > > analysis > > > > > that > > > > > > he is going to want to *remove* down the road. My son sobbed > > > > > > during the visit when told he'd have to do gfcf and sf. I am > > > so > > > > > > overwhelemed. I know we will not be able to stay on this > > > > > > perpetually, so should I even bother? Should I just do the > > > > > > supplements (efas, primrose oil, trytophan, p5p, digestive > > > > > enzymes, > > > > > > multi vitamin, zinc, lithium) and let him eat > > > natural " healthy " > > > > > > foods? I am already over $2000.00 out of pocket. He also > > > said > > > > > > that I should put my 4yr old, whom he has never seen, on GFCF > > > & > > > > > > sugar free because he is > > > > > > apraxic! This Dan doc came highly recommended, but I am > > > > starting > > > > > > to wonder if they just prescribe GFCF for everyone no matter > > > > what > > > > > > the diagnosis. What do I do next? I am so overwhelmed by all > > > > of > > > > > > the research---enzymes, diet, supplements, meds, agghhh! I > > > just > > > > > > want to do the right thing for my son. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for any and all input, and for reading this long post! > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ in PA > > > > > > Re: GFCF/SF/ yeast/DAN/ for ADHD & Apraxia?-HELP! > > > > > > > > > as one like you that is all for " all natural " if possible -I > > > have to agree with . If your going to be doing all that, and > > > all that, that is unproven, and all that, that is unproven, > > > expensive, complicated -and not working (!) then why not meds? > > > > > > And if one DAN doctor prescribes the exact same things for a child > > > who is severe autistic to one who has no issues...why can't we know > > > who this is? I know it's probably not the same DAN doctor > > > but same story -and with the amount of stuff he's got your son on, > > > off, doing, > > > taking and blood testing for...jeez! Just let me know this -is this > > > DAN doctor a medical doctor, not a medical doctor, a nutritionist? > > > One blood test fits all or what? > > > > > > And this is not a DAN bashing -it's called a " bad doctor " bashing. > > > If someone talks like a duck as they say (quack) Any doctor who > > > sees a child going downhill with what they are doing should know > > > when it's time to refer to someone else. To me referral is a sign > > > of a good MD. And I'm sure some of of the good doctors are DAN > > > doctors. > > > > > > We too would have gone the medication route for our ADHD son Dakota > > > if fish oils didn't work. In this group for years I was so > > > terrified to really let everyone know the dosages my kids were on > > > because we all started on the same " one capsule " a day. I can tell > > > you for a child your son's age however -one capsule of ProEFA -or > > > even two for that matter just isn't going to cut it to make the > > > difference. As you will see in the following messages we have > > > Dakota on 5 capsules of ProEFA and 5 capsules of ProEPA every day. > > > It's working amazing for him in that he's basically an A or high B > > > student -solid A when he tries, very social with tons of friends > > > and with a brilliant mind for architecture, imagination. He wants > > > to own Disney when he grows up and design all the roller coasters. > > > > > > Dakota does not need any medications and I've told both my boys that > > > even if they don't " need " the EFAs as they get older they should > > > continue to take them for the rest of their lives because heart > > > disease runs in both their mom and dad's family. > > > > > > If it were me I'd stop whatever you are able to stop without causing > > > harm and just try the fish oils. That's all we needed to do. In > > > fact Dakota's last neuroMD Dr. Sinha was so shocked by Dakota's > > > change she asked for the formula and if she could give some of her > > > other patients my number! But my favorite quote from her " There's > > > no reason for me to see Dakota again he is doing that amazing. > > > He'll probably make a great doctor. " (Dakota tests in the 99th > > > percentile -he really is brilliant -can you tell he's my baby?!! ) > > > > > > Here's the archives on this -let me know if you have other > questions! > > > > > > > > > From: " kiddietalk " kiddietalk@ > > > Date: Sat May 28, 2005 11:49 pm > > > Subject: Re: [ ], what kind of EFA are your > > > kids taking? kiddietalk > > > > > > My boys probably consume more EFAs than what I posted even because > > > we eat lots of seafood in our family. Dakota and Tanner both love > > > sushi, and Tanner's favorite sandwich to order when we go out to > > > dinner is a blackened dolphin (mahi mahi -the fish not the mammal- > > > the local fish where we live) > > > > > > I find french fry, potato chip and doughnut oil scary -and because > > > they don't sell it in capsules people don't think much about how > > > much they consume a day. Tanner gets in reality less then a > > > tablespoon a day of fish oil. > > > > > > If you check the archives -this may be the first time I've posted my > > > boy's dosage because what works for my boys at 8 and 10 years old > > > probably would be too high for those just starting. Highest amount > > > is what Tanner is taking now for him. Any higher and he starts to > > > regress in speech. He's taking what is the best dosage for him > > > right now. After a few years you get to know what works best. > > > Highest for humans? Read some of the stats below. I don't know if > > > anyone has the highest dosage. Then again -too much water you drown. > > > There's always such a thing as too much of a good thing. > > > > > > Side effects that are positive other than what everyone knows > > > already -My children can be around someone with strept throat and > > > don't get sick -I do credit that to the EFAs too. They are doing > > > amazing in school and are very happy little boys. As I advise > > > here -all was discussed with my boy's neuroMDs. In the archives in > > > fact is the story of how pediatric neurologist Dr. Sinha asked me if > > > she can write down the formula and dosage we are using with Dakota > > > she was so amazed at the changes in him -she had thought he needed > > > medication that much. And side effects for adults? In addition to > > > what everyone knows like more focus, healthy, better recall and > > > memory etc. it makes you sharper at everything -like even when you > > > go to a casino party. (I won 15,000 dollars of play money tonight > > > and came in second place out of a ton of people and never played > > > craps before in my life -Glenn said now if I can just do that with > > > real gambling and not just a party!) > > > > > > And about dosage...and as I said just yesterday. Dr. Stoll is the > > > one that opened my eyes to higher dosages of EFAs. So speaking of > > > Dr. Stoll -here are some quotes from his book that changed my > > > opinion about what a " high " dosage is! > > > > > > 15 pages with references to Eskimos in this book: > > > > > > 1. on Page 43: > > > " ... omega-6 to omega-3 ratios (approximately 1 to 1) are protected > > > from many of the scourges of the modern age. Greenland Eskimos > > > eating their traditional diet of fish, whale, and seal, for example, > > > have extremely low rates of heart disease. Their blood ... " > > > 2. on Page 50: > > > " ... modern hunter- gatherer populations with diets closer to that > > > of our evolutionary past. It was the classic study of Greenland > > > Eskimos, conducted in the 1970s that drew attention to high > > > concentrations of omega-3 fatty acids in their diets, ultimately > > > linking the ... " > > > 3. on Page 56: > > > " ... plenty of omega-3 fatty acids. Today, similar quantities of > > > omega-3 fatty acids are consumed by only a few groups, including > > > Eskimos and inhabitants of Japanese fishing villages (see Table 3- > > > 1). ... " > > > 4. on Page 79: > > > " ... great importance for public health, as diabetes is a huge cause > > > of death and disability. Piqued by finding the Inuit Eskimos have > > > surprisingly low rates of adult-onset diabetes, a team from > > > Australia's Garvan Institute of Medical Research fed laboratory rats > > > a ... " > > > 5. on Page 83: > > > " ... chapter 6.) Researchers first connected essential fatty acid > > > imbalance to autoimmune disease in the 1970s, when they realized > > > that Greenland Eskimos consuming diets high in omega-3 fatty acids > > > rarely suffered from arthritis, asthma, or other disorders > > > associated with excess inflammation. Since ... " > > > 6. on Page 97: > > > " ... the two urban populations, 0.68 percent for the rural region > > > and 0.44 percent for the pastoral region. Studies of Inuit Eskimos > > > as well as Malaysian, Dominican, and Nigerian women, all coastal > > > populations , have shown similar results. Compare this to the ... " > > > 7. on Page 102: > > > " ... than 3.5 grains per day of EPA and DHA combined, have been > > > given to pregnant women in research studies. Nevertheless, Eskimo > > > women traditionally consume an average of 400 grams of seal and fish > > > per day (slightly less than a pound). This ... " > > > 8. on Page 209: > > > " ... using EPA in dosages exceeding 8 grams per day, but higher > > > levels seem to be safe, since the traditional Greenland Eskimo diet > > > consisted of up to 14 grams per day. Anyone taking an anticlotting > > > agent such as warfarin (Coumadin), or high ... " > > > 9. from Back Matter: > > > " ... Heart Trial, " The Lancet 1990;21;336:129-33. A. J. Parkinson et > > > al., " Elevated concentrations of plasma w-3 polyunsaturated fatty > > > acids among Alaskan Eskimos, " Am J Clin Nutr 1994;59:384-88. E. G. > > > Perkins and W J. Visek, eds., Dietary Fats and Health (Champaign , > > > Ill.: ... " > > > 10. from Back Matter: > > > " ... domestic meats, " Int y Biochem 1970;1:295-305. J. Dyerberg and > > > H. O. Bang, " Hemostatic function and platelet polyunsaturated fatty > > > acids in Eskimos, " The Lancet 1979;2:433-35. S. B. Eaton and M. J. > > > Konner, " Paleolithic nutrition revisited: a twelve- year > > > retrospective on its nature ... " > > > > > > The Omega-3 Connection: The Groundbreaking Antidepression Diet and > > > Brain Program > > > by M.D., L. Stoll > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > Anyway -sounds like you are on the right track > > > Just keep going slow with increase and observe after each change. > > > > > > ===== > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 >>Check the archives of this list for reports of people having horrible regression from Miralax. --- Thanks for that tip . I hope that helps some folks. I am generally not in favor of drugs as a solution but I try to keep a light hand and try to not come across as some extremist crusader. -- Michele talithamichele@... http://www.atraceofme.com If the base leaves, everybody loses: http://www.solanorail.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 > > > Check the archives of this list for reports of people having horrible regression from Miralax. My page http://www.danasview.net/miralax.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 http://www.irritable-bowel-syndrome.ws/miralax.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 > how dangerous is miralax for short term use? Here is my info on it http://www.danasview.net/miralax.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 Mag Citrate, Vit C, Probiotics. For my kiddo, bacteria seemed to be the main culprit behind his constipation and once we added culturelle to the probiotic mix, the bowels started moving regularly. He's been going at least once a day for the past year and we're starting to see 2-3 a day more often now. Karla > > > > Miralax has been known to cause serious issues with our kids, and serious > > regressions. Google " miralax autism " and " miralax toxicity " > > > > the stuff is NASTY. There are gentler ways to get relief for your child > > > > Kerrie > > > > > > In a message dated 6/4/2010 4:49:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > tj_werth@ writes: > > > > Is it possible that Miralax could have caused such a personality change? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 > Dana, > Less than a year ago, I had a happy, even tempered son. Occasionally there were flare-ups but not bad or serious. He had problems with his personal space being invaded and when we had guests, would go in the other room. He also had anxiety and fears of common things he had experienced in an adverse way, like being afraid of things that fly because a wasp flew down his shirt and stung him a couple of times before we could get it out. > Then he just started changing and now he is rude, obnoxious, demanding, and has " behaviors " that could hurt him or someone else. I tried to think back about this. It was about the time they started doing the colonoscopies with the Miralax. Is it possible that Miralax could have caused such a personality change? Yes, that is a well-documented possible effect. Here is the research and experience of one person http://www.danasview.net/miralax.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 > What would anyone suggest as an alternative to Miralax? Depends on the underlying cause of the constipation. Here are some ideas http://www.danasview.net/constip.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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