Guest guest Posted April 26, 2010 Report Share Posted April 26, 2010 Hi, ,I have learned that often it is best to eat these foods (the ones that feel "forbidden" but are not... that usually contain sugar or white flour) with a meal. I listen to my hunger/fullness, and if I want cake or whatever, I save some hunger for it. That really helps me not feel deprived or binge/overeat. Eating foods that are really sugary alone can spike your blood sugar (that's just some biochemistry), and make you crave more, more, more. In fact, this derailed me BIG TIME on my first go 'round with IE. I legalized white bread and would JUST eat that. Well, I never felt truly full (no surprise as white bread spikes blood sugar.. and with nothing else paired to slow that down... I was always craving and binging). Also, just eating simple starches and sugar all day did nothing for my mood! Try pairing these foods with protein in a snack or meal. I think our grandmothers and others (my grandmother is a normal eater) knew a lot. They ate regular meals and had some sweet if they wanted it. I have often seen my grandmother turn down pie if she is not hungry only to have some later with a meal when she is hungry. Needless to say, she has stayed slim and lovely through the years. :)I think it's fine to legalize one food at a time. I learned that buying up the store was not a good idea for me (years ago before I learned more). Now, I know my body loves three regular meals a day with good nutrients AND a sweet thrown in if I save room for it in my tummy. And now, when I want a sweet, I have it, and I eat only the best! :)Best,Subject: Difficult Foods...To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 6:39 AM First, I want to thank everyone for all the wonderful postings on here. I get so much hope and support through the group sharing of ideas and experiences! So...I want to reach out today...and share a little of my struggles... I have been struggling with IE for a couple of years at least, knowing it is the way for me to move forward with my health and emotional well-being.. .while trying to quell the urge the diet and lose weight, that whole cycle....lately I feel I have made significant progress...in particular, tracking my food through a journal (not for calories or portions, but to track my hunger and emotions)... ..however I am noticing despite the charge to "legalize all foods" that certain foods I just cannot stop eating...it is like something is unleashed in me and I am obsessed with them....most of the time I try to avoid having them around (try to go to the store if I really crave something, as a "compromise" between "legalizing" the food and not feeling out of control), but when I do....I just can't seem to help myself....which feels all the more embarrassing as I am writing this... The foods I struggle with are anything with a lot of sugar that I really love (yellow cake with buttercream icing) or fresh baked bread... So thank you for listening... not sure what to do...after eating three giant pieces of this yellow cake in the last 24 hours, I am dangerously close to retreating to diet mentality... .so any suggestions you have would be fantastic. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2010 Report Share Posted April 26, 2010 Hi, ,I have learned that often it is best to eat these foods (the ones that feel "forbidden" but are not... that usually contain sugar or white flour) with a meal. I listen to my hunger/fullness, and if I want cake or whatever, I save some hunger for it. That really helps me not feel deprived or binge/overeat. Eating foods that are really sugary alone can spike your blood sugar (that's just some biochemistry), and make you crave more, more, more. In fact, this derailed me BIG TIME on my first go 'round with IE. I legalized white bread and would JUST eat that. Well, I never felt truly full (no surprise as white bread spikes blood sugar.. and with nothing else paired to slow that down... I was always craving and binging). Also, just eating simple starches and sugar all day did nothing for my mood! Try pairing these foods with protein in a snack or meal. I think our grandmothers and others (my grandmother is a normal eater) knew a lot. They ate regular meals and had some sweet if they wanted it. I have often seen my grandmother turn down pie if she is not hungry only to have some later with a meal when she is hungry. Needless to say, she has stayed slim and lovely through the years. :)I think it's fine to legalize one food at a time. I learned that buying up the store was not a good idea for me (years ago before I learned more). Now, I know my body loves three regular meals a day with good nutrients AND a sweet thrown in if I save room for it in my tummy. And now, when I want a sweet, I have it, and I eat only the best! :)Best,Subject: Difficult Foods...To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 6:39 AM First, I want to thank everyone for all the wonderful postings on here. I get so much hope and support through the group sharing of ideas and experiences! So...I want to reach out today...and share a little of my struggles... I have been struggling with IE for a couple of years at least, knowing it is the way for me to move forward with my health and emotional well-being.. .while trying to quell the urge the diet and lose weight, that whole cycle....lately I feel I have made significant progress...in particular, tracking my food through a journal (not for calories or portions, but to track my hunger and emotions)... ..however I am noticing despite the charge to "legalize all foods" that certain foods I just cannot stop eating...it is like something is unleashed in me and I am obsessed with them....most of the time I try to avoid having them around (try to go to the store if I really crave something, as a "compromise" between "legalizing" the food and not feeling out of control), but when I do....I just can't seem to help myself....which feels all the more embarrassing as I am writing this... The foods I struggle with are anything with a lot of sugar that I really love (yellow cake with buttercream icing) or fresh baked bread... So thank you for listening... not sure what to do...after eating three giant pieces of this yellow cake in the last 24 hours, I am dangerously close to retreating to diet mentality... .so any suggestions you have would be fantastic. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 Hi, , My post yesterday never showed up. It was either moderated or caught in cyber space. With sugary floury trigger type (formerly forbidden foods), I generally eat them with meals. I find that helps my blood sugar stay nice and normal and I don't crave those foods to the exclusion of others or binge on them. My first go 'round with IE, I didn't know this, and I'd spend whole days eating nothing but white bread and butter or cookies, etc. I felt sick and I was sick of it. I learned a bit more about how my body really does prefer three balanced meals and snacks if needed. Now, I work my sweets into a meal (saving room for dessert if I want it). I have always noticed my grandmother does this same thing. She is a normal eater, and I have often seen her turn dessert down and then eat some later at a meal only when she's hungry. Needless to say, she has remained a size 10-12 her whole life. She's a good model for me as so many women I know and in my family are always dieting or eating compulsively. I hope this message makes it to you this time around. Knowing that sweet foods eaten without anything to slow them down make hunger signals hard to detect has been a lifesaver for me. Best, > > > Thanks again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 Hi, , My post yesterday never showed up. It was either moderated or caught in cyber space. With sugary floury trigger type (formerly forbidden foods), I generally eat them with meals. I find that helps my blood sugar stay nice and normal and I don't crave those foods to the exclusion of others or binge on them. My first go 'round with IE, I didn't know this, and I'd spend whole days eating nothing but white bread and butter or cookies, etc. I felt sick and I was sick of it. I learned a bit more about how my body really does prefer three balanced meals and snacks if needed. Now, I work my sweets into a meal (saving room for dessert if I want it). I have always noticed my grandmother does this same thing. She is a normal eater, and I have often seen her turn dessert down and then eat some later at a meal only when she's hungry. Needless to say, she has remained a size 10-12 her whole life. She's a good model for me as so many women I know and in my family are always dieting or eating compulsively. I hope this message makes it to you this time around. Knowing that sweet foods eaten without anything to slow them down make hunger signals hard to detect has been a lifesaver for me. Best, > > > Thanks again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 Hi, , My post yesterday never showed up. It was either moderated or caught in cyber space. With sugary floury trigger type (formerly forbidden foods), I generally eat them with meals. I find that helps my blood sugar stay nice and normal and I don't crave those foods to the exclusion of others or binge on them. My first go 'round with IE, I didn't know this, and I'd spend whole days eating nothing but white bread and butter or cookies, etc. I felt sick and I was sick of it. I learned a bit more about how my body really does prefer three balanced meals and snacks if needed. Now, I work my sweets into a meal (saving room for dessert if I want it). I have always noticed my grandmother does this same thing. She is a normal eater, and I have often seen her turn dessert down and then eat some later at a meal only when she's hungry. Needless to say, she has remained a size 10-12 her whole life. She's a good model for me as so many women I know and in my family are always dieting or eating compulsively. I hope this message makes it to you this time around. Knowing that sweet foods eaten without anything to slow them down make hunger signals hard to detect has been a lifesaver for me. Best, > > > Thanks again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 , I like the idea that there are multiple ways to desensitize or take the charge off of certain foods. Last year, I got a book " Eating the Moment: 141 Mindful Practices to Overcome Overeating One Meal at a Time " by Pavel Georgievich Somov. This author offers several techniques including building a " food shrine, " having a food fight with said food, building something out of the food...so that you have an experience of interacting with the food other than eating it! I have found that mindfulness, really looking at, touching, tasting, and smelling the food has gone a long way to un-charging a food. Best, Latoya Practicing IE since Jan' 08. > So thank you for listening...not sure what to do...after eating three giant pieces of this yellow cake in the last 24 hours, I am dangerously close to retreating to diet mentality....so any suggestions you have would be fantastic. > > Thanks again. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 , I like the idea that there are multiple ways to desensitize or take the charge off of certain foods. Last year, I got a book " Eating the Moment: 141 Mindful Practices to Overcome Overeating One Meal at a Time " by Pavel Georgievich Somov. This author offers several techniques including building a " food shrine, " having a food fight with said food, building something out of the food...so that you have an experience of interacting with the food other than eating it! I have found that mindfulness, really looking at, touching, tasting, and smelling the food has gone a long way to un-charging a food. Best, Latoya Practicing IE since Jan' 08. > So thank you for listening...not sure what to do...after eating three giant pieces of this yellow cake in the last 24 hours, I am dangerously close to retreating to diet mentality....so any suggestions you have would be fantastic. > > Thanks again. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 This is really good advice. I think any kind of "iffy" foods are best eaten with a meal--every meal, if you want!. Sohni  Hi, , I have learned that often it is best to eat these foods (the ones that feel "forbidden" but are not... that usually contain sugar or white flour) with a meal. I listen to my hunger/fullness, and if I want cake or whatever, I save some hunger for it. That really helps me not feel deprived or binge/overeat. Eating foods that are really sugary alone can spike your blood sugar (that's just some biochemistry), and make you crave more, more, more. In fact, this derailed me BIG TIME on my first go 'round with IE. I legalized white bread and would JUST eat that. Well, I never felt truly full (no surprise as white bread spikes blood sugar.. and with nothing else paired to slow that down... I was always craving and binging). Also, just eating simple starches and sugar all day did nothing for my mood! Try pairing these foods with protein in a snack or meal. I think our grandmothers and others (my grandmother is a normal eater) knew a lot. They ate regular meals and had some sweet if they wanted it. I have often seen my grandmother turn down pie if she is not hungry only to have some later with a meal when she is hungry. Needless to say, she has stayed slim and lovely through the years. I think it's fine to legalize one food at a time. I learned that buying up the store was not a good idea for me (years ago before I learned more). Now, I know my body loves three regular meals a day with good nutrients AND a sweet thrown in if I save room for it in my tummy. And now, when I want a sweet, I have it, and I eat only the best! Best, From: auacc <auacc> Subject: Difficult Foods... To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 6:39 AM  First, I want to thank everyone for all the wonderful postings on here. I get so much hope and support through the group sharing of ideas and experiences! So...I want to reach out today...and share a little of my struggles... I have been struggling with IE for a couple of years at least, knowing it is the way for me to move forward with my health and emotional well-being.. .while trying to quell the urge the diet and lose weight, that whole cycle....lately I feel I have made significant progress...in particular, tracking my food through a journal (not for calories or portions, but to track my hunger and emotions)... ..however I am noticing despite the charge to "legalize all foods" that certain foods I just cannot stop eating...it is like something is unleashed in me and I am obsessed with them....most of the time I try to avoid having them around (try to go to the store if I really crave something, as a "compromise" between "legalizing" the food and not feeling out of control), but when I do....I just can't seem to help myself....which feels all the more embarrassing as I am writing this... The foods I struggle with are anything with a lot of sugar that I really love (yellow cake with buttercream icing) or fresh baked bread... So thank you for listening... not sure what to do...after eating three giant pieces of this yellow cake in the last 24 hours, I am dangerously close to retreating to diet mentality... .so any suggestions you have would be fantastic. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 This is really good advice. I think any kind of "iffy" foods are best eaten with a meal--every meal, if you want!. Sohni  Hi, , I have learned that often it is best to eat these foods (the ones that feel "forbidden" but are not... that usually contain sugar or white flour) with a meal. I listen to my hunger/fullness, and if I want cake or whatever, I save some hunger for it. That really helps me not feel deprived or binge/overeat. Eating foods that are really sugary alone can spike your blood sugar (that's just some biochemistry), and make you crave more, more, more. In fact, this derailed me BIG TIME on my first go 'round with IE. I legalized white bread and would JUST eat that. Well, I never felt truly full (no surprise as white bread spikes blood sugar.. and with nothing else paired to slow that down... I was always craving and binging). Also, just eating simple starches and sugar all day did nothing for my mood! Try pairing these foods with protein in a snack or meal. I think our grandmothers and others (my grandmother is a normal eater) knew a lot. They ate regular meals and had some sweet if they wanted it. I have often seen my grandmother turn down pie if she is not hungry only to have some later with a meal when she is hungry. Needless to say, she has stayed slim and lovely through the years. I think it's fine to legalize one food at a time. I learned that buying up the store was not a good idea for me (years ago before I learned more). Now, I know my body loves three regular meals a day with good nutrients AND a sweet thrown in if I save room for it in my tummy. And now, when I want a sweet, I have it, and I eat only the best! Best, From: auacc <auacc> Subject: Difficult Foods... To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 6:39 AM  First, I want to thank everyone for all the wonderful postings on here. I get so much hope and support through the group sharing of ideas and experiences! So...I want to reach out today...and share a little of my struggles... I have been struggling with IE for a couple of years at least, knowing it is the way for me to move forward with my health and emotional well-being.. .while trying to quell the urge the diet and lose weight, that whole cycle....lately I feel I have made significant progress...in particular, tracking my food through a journal (not for calories or portions, but to track my hunger and emotions)... ..however I am noticing despite the charge to "legalize all foods" that certain foods I just cannot stop eating...it is like something is unleashed in me and I am obsessed with them....most of the time I try to avoid having them around (try to go to the store if I really crave something, as a "compromise" between "legalizing" the food and not feeling out of control), but when I do....I just can't seem to help myself....which feels all the more embarrassing as I am writing this... The foods I struggle with are anything with a lot of sugar that I really love (yellow cake with buttercream icing) or fresh baked bread... So thank you for listening... not sure what to do...after eating three giant pieces of this yellow cake in the last 24 hours, I am dangerously close to retreating to diet mentality... .so any suggestions you have would be fantastic. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 This is really good advice. I think any kind of "iffy" foods are best eaten with a meal--every meal, if you want!. Sohni  Hi, , I have learned that often it is best to eat these foods (the ones that feel "forbidden" but are not... that usually contain sugar or white flour) with a meal. I listen to my hunger/fullness, and if I want cake or whatever, I save some hunger for it. That really helps me not feel deprived or binge/overeat. Eating foods that are really sugary alone can spike your blood sugar (that's just some biochemistry), and make you crave more, more, more. In fact, this derailed me BIG TIME on my first go 'round with IE. I legalized white bread and would JUST eat that. Well, I never felt truly full (no surprise as white bread spikes blood sugar.. and with nothing else paired to slow that down... I was always craving and binging). Also, just eating simple starches and sugar all day did nothing for my mood! Try pairing these foods with protein in a snack or meal. I think our grandmothers and others (my grandmother is a normal eater) knew a lot. They ate regular meals and had some sweet if they wanted it. I have often seen my grandmother turn down pie if she is not hungry only to have some later with a meal when she is hungry. Needless to say, she has stayed slim and lovely through the years. I think it's fine to legalize one food at a time. I learned that buying up the store was not a good idea for me (years ago before I learned more). Now, I know my body loves three regular meals a day with good nutrients AND a sweet thrown in if I save room for it in my tummy. And now, when I want a sweet, I have it, and I eat only the best! Best, From: auacc <auacc> Subject: Difficult Foods... To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 6:39 AM  First, I want to thank everyone for all the wonderful postings on here. I get so much hope and support through the group sharing of ideas and experiences! So...I want to reach out today...and share a little of my struggles... I have been struggling with IE for a couple of years at least, knowing it is the way for me to move forward with my health and emotional well-being.. .while trying to quell the urge the diet and lose weight, that whole cycle....lately I feel I have made significant progress...in particular, tracking my food through a journal (not for calories or portions, but to track my hunger and emotions)... ..however I am noticing despite the charge to "legalize all foods" that certain foods I just cannot stop eating...it is like something is unleashed in me and I am obsessed with them....most of the time I try to avoid having them around (try to go to the store if I really crave something, as a "compromise" between "legalizing" the food and not feeling out of control), but when I do....I just can't seem to help myself....which feels all the more embarrassing as I am writing this... The foods I struggle with are anything with a lot of sugar that I really love (yellow cake with buttercream icing) or fresh baked bread... So thank you for listening... not sure what to do...after eating three giant pieces of this yellow cake in the last 24 hours, I am dangerously close to retreating to diet mentality... .so any suggestions you have would be fantastic. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Thanks again for all those who shared. It was very centering, validating, and it exactly what I needed. This group is amazing! Best, > > > > > > > > Subject: Difficult Foods... > > To: IntuitiveEating_Support > > Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 6:39 AM > > > > First, I want to thank everyone for all the wonderful postings on > > here. I get so much hope and support through the group sharing of > > ideas and experiences! > > > > So...I want to reach out today...and share a little of my > > struggles... I have been struggling with IE for a couple of years > > at least, knowing it is the way for me to move forward with my > > health and emotional well-being.. .while trying to quell the urge > > the diet and lose weight, that whole cycle....lately I feel I have > > made significant progress...in particular, tracking my food > > through a journal (not for calories or portions, but to track my > > hunger and emotions)... ..however I am noticing despite the charge > > to " legalize all foods " that certain foods I just cannot stop > > eating...it is like something is unleashed in me and I am obsessed > > with them....most of the time I try to avoid having them around > > (try to go to the store if I really crave something, as a > > " compromise " between " legalizing " the food and not feeling out of > > control), but when I do....I just can't seem to help > > myself....which feels all the more embarrassing as I am writing > > this... > > > > The foods I struggle with are anything with a lot of sugar that I > > really love (yellow cake with buttercream icing) or fresh baked > > bread... > > > > So thank you for listening... not sure what to do...after eating > > three giant pieces of this yellow cake in the last 24 hours, I am > > dangerously close to retreating to diet mentality... .so any > > suggestions you have would be fantastic. > > > > Thanks again. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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