Re: chapter four: Awakening the Intuitive Eater: Stages

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Hello all!

Back to our weekly discussions. This week: chapter four.

1. What stage are you at? Any others? Do you go back and forth as

they mention, for instance? Do explain!  I am pretty much between Stage 2 and Stage 3.  I am getting more trust in myself in choosing what I want to eat and that my biological signals are dependable.  I continue to struggle with actually paying attention when I am eating...I have gotten rid of external distractions, but my mind continues to wander off.  I am working on a list of foods that I love and having a hard time with it...odd.

2. The second paragraph of the chapter states that " your journey back

to Intuitive Eating depends on " the following questions that I'll ask

everyone.

a. How long have you been dieting?  since I was 20 years old (am 60 right now)...

b. How strongly entrenched do you feel your diet thinking might be? so strong that it is pretty much the only way I have thought for years...

c. How long do you feel that you've been using food to cope with life?  40 years easily

d. How willing are you to trust yourself? Truly self-examine here...I am finding myself getting better at it, but it is hard.  I know in my head now that if I listen to my body, it will tell me what I need...I am experiencing that in medical issues, exercise and in eating.  Slowly I am learning to trust my body.

e. How willing are you to make weight loss a secondary goal and

Intuitive Eating a primary goal?  That line really jumped out at me while I was reading this chapter...again, I think that I am slowly getting to that point.  I am aware of a significant increase lately in my body acceptance which I think makes it easier to have IE my primary goal.

3. What do you think of the diagrams on p. 33? Does it disappoint

you to think that the process won't be linear? Have you come to a

level of peace that recovery goes back and forth a bit?  yes, I have become aware of a level of peace with going back and forth most of the time, anyway...

4. Finding out if you're a good candidate for weight loss:

a. Have you routinely eaten beyond your comfortable fullness level?  yes

b. Do you routinely overeat when you're getting ready for your next

diet, knowing there will be a lot of foods you won't be allowed to

eat?  sometimes I would do that, other times I would feel " virtuous " and get a " head-start " on the diet... 

c. Do you overeat as a coping mechanism in difficult times? usually

d. Do you overeat to fill up time when you're bored?  always, this seems to be my most pressing problem with my eating

e. Have you been resistant to exercise?  yes, but with the reservation that I have had foot issues for the past 2-3 years and that has severely restricted my walking for exercise, which I used to love.

f. Do you only exercise when you diet?  not always...I am beginning to be aware of my body just wanting to MOVE!

g. Do you skip meals or wait to eat until you're ravenously hungry,

only to find that you overeat when you finally do eat?  not anymore.  I always remind myself that I would not make my grandchildren do that, so why would I be so unkind to myself?

h. Do you feel guilty, either when you overeat or when you eat a

" bad food " which results in more overeating? yes, but I'm working on it

5. Are you ready to focus on HOW YOU FEEL as the goal, rather than

weight loss? How does that make you feel now? Any reservations? that's a very hard one...and I need to focus on it...dealing with elderly parents is taking an emotional toll on me and I need to let myself grieve...I am willing to begin that work, however.  I will feel better in many different ways when I do...

6. Anything else you want to add about the stages? Have your

insights changed as you answered these questions?  no real change in insights, although maybe that's not true as question #5 is really making me think!!!! Thanks for the questions!  Sue

 

As always answer what is comfortable and omit what is not. Opening

up may help your fellow Intuitive Eater-in-Training feel comfortable

in their process...some personal questions here but worth it!

Cheers,

-- Sue on FritzCheck out my blogs at: http://alifeofbooks.blogspot.com/http://suesresearch.blogspot.com

http://suesretirementmusings.blogspot.com/Check out my books on Goodreads: <

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Hello all!

Back to our weekly discussions. This week: chapter four.

1. What stage are you at? Any others? Do you go back and forth as

they mention, for instance? Do explain!  I am pretty much between Stage 2 and Stage 3.  I am getting more trust in myself in choosing what I want to eat and that my biological signals are dependable.  I continue to struggle with actually paying attention when I am eating...I have gotten rid of external distractions, but my mind continues to wander off.  I am working on a list of foods that I love and having a hard time with it...odd.

2. The second paragraph of the chapter states that " your journey back

to Intuitive Eating depends on " the following questions that I'll ask

everyone.

a. How long have you been dieting?  since I was 20 years old (am 60 right now)...

b. How strongly entrenched do you feel your diet thinking might be? so strong that it is pretty much the only way I have thought for years...

c. How long do you feel that you've been using food to cope with life?  40 years easily

d. How willing are you to trust yourself? Truly self-examine here...I am finding myself getting better at it, but it is hard.  I know in my head now that if I listen to my body, it will tell me what I need...I am experiencing that in medical issues, exercise and in eating.  Slowly I am learning to trust my body.

e. How willing are you to make weight loss a secondary goal and

Intuitive Eating a primary goal?  That line really jumped out at me while I was reading this chapter...again, I think that I am slowly getting to that point.  I am aware of a significant increase lately in my body acceptance which I think makes it easier to have IE my primary goal.

3. What do you think of the diagrams on p. 33? Does it disappoint

you to think that the process won't be linear? Have you come to a

level of peace that recovery goes back and forth a bit?  yes, I have become aware of a level of peace with going back and forth most of the time, anyway...

4. Finding out if you're a good candidate for weight loss:

a. Have you routinely eaten beyond your comfortable fullness level?  yes

b. Do you routinely overeat when you're getting ready for your next

diet, knowing there will be a lot of foods you won't be allowed to

eat?  sometimes I would do that, other times I would feel " virtuous " and get a " head-start " on the diet... 

c. Do you overeat as a coping mechanism in difficult times? usually

d. Do you overeat to fill up time when you're bored?  always, this seems to be my most pressing problem with my eating

e. Have you been resistant to exercise?  yes, but with the reservation that I have had foot issues for the past 2-3 years and that has severely restricted my walking for exercise, which I used to love.

f. Do you only exercise when you diet?  not always...I am beginning to be aware of my body just wanting to MOVE!

g. Do you skip meals or wait to eat until you're ravenously hungry,

only to find that you overeat when you finally do eat?  not anymore.  I always remind myself that I would not make my grandchildren do that, so why would I be so unkind to myself?

h. Do you feel guilty, either when you overeat or when you eat a

" bad food " which results in more overeating? yes, but I'm working on it

5. Are you ready to focus on HOW YOU FEEL as the goal, rather than

weight loss? How does that make you feel now? Any reservations? that's a very hard one...and I need to focus on it...dealing with elderly parents is taking an emotional toll on me and I need to let myself grieve...I am willing to begin that work, however.  I will feel better in many different ways when I do...

6. Anything else you want to add about the stages? Have your

insights changed as you answered these questions?  no real change in insights, although maybe that's not true as question #5 is really making me think!!!! Thanks for the questions!  Sue

 

As always answer what is comfortable and omit what is not. Opening

up may help your fellow Intuitive Eater-in-Training feel comfortable

in their process...some personal questions here but worth it!

Cheers,

-- Sue on FritzCheck out my blogs at: http://alifeofbooks.blogspot.com/http://suesresearch.blogspot.com

http://suesretirementmusings.blogspot.com/Check out my books on Goodreads: <

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Hello all!

Back to our weekly discussions. This week: chapter four.

1. What stage are you at? Any others? Do you go back and forth as

they mention, for instance? Do explain!  I am pretty much between Stage 2 and Stage 3.  I am getting more trust in myself in choosing what I want to eat and that my biological signals are dependable.  I continue to struggle with actually paying attention when I am eating...I have gotten rid of external distractions, but my mind continues to wander off.  I am working on a list of foods that I love and having a hard time with it...odd.

2. The second paragraph of the chapter states that " your journey back

to Intuitive Eating depends on " the following questions that I'll ask

everyone.

a. How long have you been dieting?  since I was 20 years old (am 60 right now)...

b. How strongly entrenched do you feel your diet thinking might be? so strong that it is pretty much the only way I have thought for years...

c. How long do you feel that you've been using food to cope with life?  40 years easily

d. How willing are you to trust yourself? Truly self-examine here...I am finding myself getting better at it, but it is hard.  I know in my head now that if I listen to my body, it will tell me what I need...I am experiencing that in medical issues, exercise and in eating.  Slowly I am learning to trust my body.

e. How willing are you to make weight loss a secondary goal and

Intuitive Eating a primary goal?  That line really jumped out at me while I was reading this chapter...again, I think that I am slowly getting to that point.  I am aware of a significant increase lately in my body acceptance which I think makes it easier to have IE my primary goal.

3. What do you think of the diagrams on p. 33? Does it disappoint

you to think that the process won't be linear? Have you come to a

level of peace that recovery goes back and forth a bit?  yes, I have become aware of a level of peace with going back and forth most of the time, anyway...

4. Finding out if you're a good candidate for weight loss:

a. Have you routinely eaten beyond your comfortable fullness level?  yes

b. Do you routinely overeat when you're getting ready for your next

diet, knowing there will be a lot of foods you won't be allowed to

eat?  sometimes I would do that, other times I would feel " virtuous " and get a " head-start " on the diet... 

c. Do you overeat as a coping mechanism in difficult times? usually

d. Do you overeat to fill up time when you're bored?  always, this seems to be my most pressing problem with my eating

e. Have you been resistant to exercise?  yes, but with the reservation that I have had foot issues for the past 2-3 years and that has severely restricted my walking for exercise, which I used to love.

f. Do you only exercise when you diet?  not always...I am beginning to be aware of my body just wanting to MOVE!

g. Do you skip meals or wait to eat until you're ravenously hungry,

only to find that you overeat when you finally do eat?  not anymore.  I always remind myself that I would not make my grandchildren do that, so why would I be so unkind to myself?

h. Do you feel guilty, either when you overeat or when you eat a

" bad food " which results in more overeating? yes, but I'm working on it

5. Are you ready to focus on HOW YOU FEEL as the goal, rather than

weight loss? How does that make you feel now? Any reservations? that's a very hard one...and I need to focus on it...dealing with elderly parents is taking an emotional toll on me and I need to let myself grieve...I am willing to begin that work, however.  I will feel better in many different ways when I do...

6. Anything else you want to add about the stages? Have your

insights changed as you answered these questions?  no real change in insights, although maybe that's not true as question #5 is really making me think!!!! Thanks for the questions!  Sue

 

As always answer what is comfortable and omit what is not. Opening

up may help your fellow Intuitive Eater-in-Training feel comfortable

in their process...some personal questions here but worth it!

Cheers,

-- Sue on FritzCheck out my blogs at: http://alifeofbooks.blogspot.com/http://suesresearch.blogspot.com

http://suesretirementmusings.blogspot.com/Check out my books on Goodreads: <

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Hi, IEers,

Sorry I'm so late in responding: We got in a new rescue ie on Friday, and things have been hectic all week! My answers are below.

Laurie

>

> 1. What stage are you at? Any others? Do you go back and forth as

> they mention, for instance? Do explain!

>

I would say I'm at stage 2 in many ways. I totally identified with the statement "The more satisfied you are when eating, the less you will think about food when you are not hungry--you will no longer be on the prowl."

This is the most amazing thing for me about IE so far, that my obsessive thoughts about food are for the most part GONE (which the chapter says is a sign of stage 3).

Other places where I think maybe I'm progressing out of stage 2 are: (1) I'm perhaps eating larger quantities than my body needs sometimes, but this is definitely less, not more, than I used to eat. I find I am HUNGRY in the morning, which is a clear sign that my night time eating has really diminished. I used to eat so much at night that I wouldn't be hungry until early afternoon. (2) I'm not eating foods that are heavier in fat and sugar, mostly because, being a permitter, I hadn't much "deprived" myself of those foods before IE, so they are not major crave items. (3) I'm not really "hyperconscious" about my eating anymore. I feel calm and natural about the process...very nice feeling.

> 2. The second paragraph of the chapter states that "your journey back

> to Intuitive Eating depends on" the following questions that I'll ask

> everyone.

>

> a. How long have you been dieting?

>

Since I was around 13 or 14, when someone my age (and who I wanted to emulate) mentioned that she was "dieting,", and I started thinking I probably needed to stop eating so much. I was afraid of becoming obese like my mother.

> b. How strongly entrenched do you feel your diet thinking might be?

>

This is hard for me to answer. I was most often in my dieting a permitter, a failed dieter, so my faith in diets has been spotty at best all along. I think diet thinking gets ramped up for me when I "feel fat."

> c. How long do you feel that you've been using food to cope with life?

>

I think I've been doing this since I was a teenager, and since I'm 59 now, that means it's been 40-some years. I've been aware I was doing this, but never aware of what kind of emotions I was trying to numb.

> d. How willing are you to trust yourself? Truly self-examine here...

>

I'm only half-willing to trust myself, because for so long I made excuses for myself, and sometimes I think IE is just a sneaky way of letting myself eat irresponsibly.

> e. How willing are you to make weight loss a secondary goal and

> Intuitive Eating a primary goal?

This is hard for me, but at the same time I'm delighted that I haven't (I think) gained any weight, which used to be what would happen the minute I quit dieting.

> 3. What do you think of the diagrams on p. 33? Does it disappoint

> you to think that the process won't be linear? Have you come to a

> level of peace that recovery goes back and forth a bit?

I'm ok with it not being linear. During my last diet, my one and only stint with WW, I kept my own chart and only marked progress down, so that I was always looking at the lowest weight I'd attained, not the ups and downs. I told myself if I could get down to that weight, I could get lower than that weight eventually. This sort of reset my thinking about the losses and gains you see if you're watching your scale-number so closely.

> 4. Finding out if you're a good candidate for weight loss:

>

> a. Have you routinely eaten beyond your comfortable fullness level?

>

Yes. I wasn't aware how much until I tried WW for the first time last year, and got a feeling for what it feels like NOT to be so full all the time. Before the WW experience, I'd say I only had two modes: overeating to discomfort, or dieting and being hungry most of the time. Terrible way to live, both modes!

> b. Do you routinely overeat when you're getting ready for your next

> diet, knowing there will be a lot of foods you won't be allowed to

> eat?

I never really did that particular thing, but I was always overeating, so anytime I started a diet I would not atypically overeat beyond that--but I was always eating foods that weren't allowed on diets, to excess.

> c. Do you overeat as a coping mechanism in difficult times?

>

I'm doing this rarely now, but I used to do it all the time.

> d. Do you overeat to fill up time when you're bored?

>

Sometimes used to, but I'm not one who gets bored much.

> e. Have you been resistant to exercise?

>

Again, I swing to extremes: either I'm overexercising, or I'm not exercising at all. I'm striving in IE to find a way to exercise that's something I enjoy, but not something I'll overdo.

> f. Do you only exercise when you diet?

>

No, I've sometimes in the past exercised without dieting, always though hoping that it would help me lose weight.

> g. Do you skip meals or wait to eat until you're ravenously hungry,

> only to find that you overeat when you finally do eat?

>

This is pretty rare for me, and if it happens, it's usually by accident, i.e., that I've been so wrapped up in something that I didn't stop to eat. When this happens, it's harder for me to stop when I'm full.

> h. Do you feel guilty, either when you overeat o r when you eat a

> "bad food" which results in more overeating?

>

I feel guilty sometimes if I overeat, but not many foods are still "bad foods" for me anymore. I have restricted some foods (sodas are one example), but I've done this out of a health choice, and I don't really want those foods anymore.

> 5. Are you ready to focus on HOW YOU FEEL as the goal, rather than

> weight loss? How does that make you feel now? Any reservations?

>

When I see myself in a mirror or photograph, I do have some reservations, but I am trying hard to focus on the fact that I feel so liberated, it's worth it to go slowly.

> 6. Anything else you want to add about the stages? Have your

> insights changed as you answered these questions?

Looking forward to moving forward. I think I want to reread about Stage 3 and maybe make a list of hallmarks of that stage, so I can review it from time to time to give me a feeling of going forward. Sometimes I can't see the progress unless it's dramatic, and I think it might help me to look over the next stage from time to time.

>

> As always answer what is comfortable and omit what is not. Opening

> up may help your fellow Intuitive Eater-in-Training feel comfortable

> in their process...some personal questions here but worth it!

>

> Cheers,

>

>