Guest guest Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Hi everyone! I just had a couple thoughts and needed some reinforcement. I am very clear that a calorie is a calorie, but during stressful times, or when I am feeling out of control, my eating disorder, strongly disagrees with this fact. I struggle with believing that all calories are equal, even though I now the facts. I just wondered if anyone had any thoughts, or if they had struggled with this. I still have the distorted thoughts and beliefs that if I eat certain food, they will make me gain weight, or the all or nothing thinking like I've blown my day if I eat something that is not " healthy " so to speak. Thanks! Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Hmmm, I don't share that problem, so not sure I have the best ideas. There's nothing wrong with eating healthy, so it doesn't have to be a problem. Maybe if you told us how the thinking affects you, we could come up with some ideas. What happens once you feel like you've blown your day? Do you binge on the junk that you didn't think was healthy to begin with? Josie > > Hi everyone! I just had a couple thoughts and needed some reinforcement. I am very clear that a calorie is a calorie, but during stressful times, or when I am feeling out of control, my eating disorder, strongly disagrees with this fact. I struggle with believing that all calories are equal, even though I now the facts. I just wondered if anyone had any thoughts, or if they had struggled with this. I still have the distorted thoughts and beliefs that if I eat certain food, they will make me gain weight, or the all or nothing thinking like I've blown my day if I eat something that is not " healthy " so to speak. Thanks! > > Jen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Hmmm, I don't share that problem, so not sure I have the best ideas. There's nothing wrong with eating healthy, so it doesn't have to be a problem. Maybe if you told us how the thinking affects you, we could come up with some ideas. What happens once you feel like you've blown your day? Do you binge on the junk that you didn't think was healthy to begin with? Josie > > Hi everyone! I just had a couple thoughts and needed some reinforcement. I am very clear that a calorie is a calorie, but during stressful times, or when I am feeling out of control, my eating disorder, strongly disagrees with this fact. I struggle with believing that all calories are equal, even though I now the facts. I just wondered if anyone had any thoughts, or if they had struggled with this. I still have the distorted thoughts and beliefs that if I eat certain food, they will make me gain weight, or the all or nothing thinking like I've blown my day if I eat something that is not " healthy " so to speak. Thanks! > > Jen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Thank you Josie! I totally agree and feel that practice/repetition will help me learn to trust foods that feel scary or unhealthy for me. Thank you so much for the encouragement. > > > > This is so difficult for me as well. I want desperately to believe that all food is good food- no food is bad and they are all equal. And yet the bad food/good food mantra is SO ingrained in my mind that I can't seem to genuinely believe that. I often do what feels like lying to myself and saying that all foods are equal etc, but deep down I don't truly believe that and I have no idea HOW to change that deep seated belief. Is it even possible??? > > > > Thank you all, > > Jen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Josie, Maybe trying that will help. I tend to go for lots of the " bad " foods way too much and end up binging every single night on them. Perhaps if I keep only one type of " forbidden/bad " food in my house at a time it could be a bit better? But then I feel as though I'm not really trying if I do that. That I am not following the guidelines as I should and therefore not growing and learning and progressing. I get so confused with all of this sometimes!!!! But I still haven't given up on trying. Thanks for your insight, Josie! Jen > > > > This is so difficult for me as well. I want desperately to believe that all food is good food- no food is bad and they are all equal. And yet the bad food/good food mantra is SO ingrained in my mind that I can't seem to genuinely believe that. I often do what feels like lying to myself and saying that all foods are equal etc, but deep down I don't truly believe that and I have no idea HOW to change that deep seated belief. Is it even possible??? > > > > Thank you all, > > Jen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Josie, Maybe trying that will help. I tend to go for lots of the " bad " foods way too much and end up binging every single night on them. Perhaps if I keep only one type of " forbidden/bad " food in my house at a time it could be a bit better? But then I feel as though I'm not really trying if I do that. That I am not following the guidelines as I should and therefore not growing and learning and progressing. I get so confused with all of this sometimes!!!! But I still haven't given up on trying. Thanks for your insight, Josie! Jen > > > > This is so difficult for me as well. I want desperately to believe that all food is good food- no food is bad and they are all equal. And yet the bad food/good food mantra is SO ingrained in my mind that I can't seem to genuinely believe that. I often do what feels like lying to myself and saying that all foods are equal etc, but deep down I don't truly believe that and I have no idea HOW to change that deep seated belief. Is it even possible??? > > > > Thank you all, > > Jen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 I have found it helpful to dish myself less than I used to think I would want. I find that if I'm in tune w/ my fullness levels this is usually plenty and sometimes still too much. I think it keeps me from wasting food and I can always go back for more if I'm still hungry. I really wouldn't classify that as diet behavior, just being sensible. And if you're like me (someone who used to "eat to completion") you still get the satisfaction of cleaning your plate (even if it's a slightly smaller one).Hi, reputkow, I very much liked your post. I had to laugh, though, because I twice misread your "full is uncomfortable for me," which is exactly right as you wrote it, but I *read* it as if it were saying "uncomfortable = full," which was the way I used to define it, that is, that I didn't think of myself as satisfied ("full") until I was actually "uncomfortable." I think redefining "full" as "pleasantly satisfied but still energized" is what I'm aiming at now. I keep thinking I simply need to cut down the quantities I make for and/or serve myself, though I am wondering if this is diet mentality. But so far, if I make an amount of food that seems about right for how hungry I am, I don't seem to be able to stop before it's gone, and I feel a certain gravity (not uncomfortable by any means), which I suspect is still too much food, especially since my clothes don't seem to be getting any looser, LOL. Thoughts, anyone? Would it be not diet-mentality simply to start consciously making and serving myself less food, as an experiment? I wouldn't tell myself I couldn't go back for more, if I really wanted it. Something about this sounds a little like restricting, though. Maybe I'm overthinking? (a distinct possibility!) Laurie reputkow wrote:>>>This is my main project these days--despite so many other things going on right now. I'm trying to become aware of getting physically hungry (not too difficult anymore but still requiring FOCUS) and stopping BEFORE getting full (full is uncomfortable for me). <<< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Hi, Jen, That phrase of yours, "following the guidelines as I should" makes me pause. I'm wondering if maybe you're putting some "should" expectations upon yourself about how much you should be growing/learning/progressing instead of looking to what your own body is telling you. When you end up bingeing every night, do you do it "in" your body, or are you letting yourself go unconscious? I find if I stay conscious, it's really hard for me to keep a decent binge going, because it simply feels physically worse and worse if I don't numb out. Do these foods that you identify as "bad" feel good in your body while you're eating them? How about after you've eaten them? I hope this is helpful. I know too well how depressing it can be to wake up morning after morning, having binged the night before on things I'd rather not eat at all, let alone eat in too-large-for-comfort quantities. Laurie Jen wrote: >>>Maybe trying that will help. I tend to go for lots of the "bad" foods way too much and end up binging every single night on them. Perhaps if I keep only one type of "forbidden/bad" food in my house at a time it could be a bit better? But then I feel as though I'm not really trying if I do that. That I am not following the guidelines as I should and therefore not growing and learning and progressing. I get so confused with all of this sometimes!!!! But I still haven't given up on trying.<<< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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