Re: So confused about my binge last night...

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I was wondering, did it take some time, after getting started with IE, for you

to do this? I mean, was it a process in terms of getting to the point where you

could keep yourself from eating all of the chocolate in one sitting? Even after

getting into IE?

Thanks so much,

Jen

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the feedback!

> > > >

> > > > Well, my motivation in making them was basically that I was in the mood

for chocolate and my body seemed to be okay with that and I knew that depriving

myself of them contradicts what I am trying to accomplish. So I made them,

hoping I would save lots of them for later! That didn't happen!

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for reassuring me that I don't have to know WHY I binged right

now. It's a work in process and I have to forgive myself for not always knowing.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I was wondering, did it take some time, after getting started with IE, for you

to do this? I mean, was it a process in terms of getting to the point where you

could keep yourself from eating all of the chocolate in one sitting? Even after

getting into IE?

Thanks so much,

Jen

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the feedback!

> > > >

> > > > Well, my motivation in making them was basically that I was in the mood

for chocolate and my body seemed to be okay with that and I knew that depriving

myself of them contradicts what I am trying to accomplish. So I made them,

hoping I would save lots of them for later! That didn't happen!

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for reassuring me that I don't have to know WHY I binged right

now. It's a work in process and I have to forgive myself for not always knowing.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Latoya,

I need to explore more what it is about the chocolate. In fact, I had another

binge last night and this one was huge. I went absolutely crazy. I can't even

believe a human being can consume as much as I did within 30 minutes of time.

And a lot of what I ate was chocolate. I have to say that it was the taste

primarily that draws me to it. The taste is so irresistible and sensual and

inviting. And it feels so addictive. I know that it might not be an addiction (I

ponder that and question the concept often) but it feels that way.

I appreciate so much what you stated about it being easier in the morning due to

the fact that we are more alert and fresh and able to detect our hunger

signals/fullness more easily. The evening is so very different for me. I'm like

a different person in terms of food.

I pray that all of these binges (I had more last week) are not indicative of the

fact that I can't become an intuitive eater. I try every single day. I don't

give up. But I often feel lost and out of control and this scares me so much. I

have no idea how long it takes others to end most of the huge binges once they

begin IE and I feel so behind. I have been at this for about a month now.

Thanks again for listening and offering your wonderful advice,

Jen

> >

> > Latoya,

> >

> > Well, it seems that most evenings I gravitate towards chocolate. It consumes

me- the concept of it. The cravings dominate my mind and I am likely confusing

my mind's cravings for my body's cravings. I think that's what I have so much

trouble with. Determining what my BODY wants vs what my mind wants. I just don't

know how to do it. My mind takes over it seems- especially in the evenings.

> >

> > You mentioned that you wait until you are sure that your body wants those

particular foods at the time. How do you do it?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Jen

>

[Guest guest]

Latoya,

I need to explore more what it is about the chocolate. In fact, I had another

binge last night and this one was huge. I went absolutely crazy. I can't even

believe a human being can consume as much as I did within 30 minutes of time.

And a lot of what I ate was chocolate. I have to say that it was the taste

primarily that draws me to it. The taste is so irresistible and sensual and

inviting. And it feels so addictive. I know that it might not be an addiction (I

ponder that and question the concept often) but it feels that way.

I appreciate so much what you stated about it being easier in the morning due to

the fact that we are more alert and fresh and able to detect our hunger

signals/fullness more easily. The evening is so very different for me. I'm like

a different person in terms of food.

I pray that all of these binges (I had more last week) are not indicative of the

fact that I can't become an intuitive eater. I try every single day. I don't

give up. But I often feel lost and out of control and this scares me so much. I

have no idea how long it takes others to end most of the huge binges once they

begin IE and I feel so behind. I have been at this for about a month now.

Thanks again for listening and offering your wonderful advice,

Jen

> >

> > Latoya,

> >

> > Well, it seems that most evenings I gravitate towards chocolate. It consumes

me- the concept of it. The cravings dominate my mind and I am likely confusing

my mind's cravings for my body's cravings. I think that's what I have so much

trouble with. Determining what my BODY wants vs what my mind wants. I just don't

know how to do it. My mind takes over it seems- especially in the evenings.

> >

> > You mentioned that you wait until you are sure that your body wants those

particular foods at the time. How do you do it?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Jen

>

[Guest guest]

Latoya,

I need to explore more what it is about the chocolate. In fact, I had another

binge last night and this one was huge. I went absolutely crazy. I can't even

believe a human being can consume as much as I did within 30 minutes of time.

And a lot of what I ate was chocolate. I have to say that it was the taste

primarily that draws me to it. The taste is so irresistible and sensual and

inviting. And it feels so addictive. I know that it might not be an addiction (I

ponder that and question the concept often) but it feels that way.

I appreciate so much what you stated about it being easier in the morning due to

the fact that we are more alert and fresh and able to detect our hunger

signals/fullness more easily. The evening is so very different for me. I'm like

a different person in terms of food.

I pray that all of these binges (I had more last week) are not indicative of the

fact that I can't become an intuitive eater. I try every single day. I don't

give up. But I often feel lost and out of control and this scares me so much. I

have no idea how long it takes others to end most of the huge binges once they

begin IE and I feel so behind. I have been at this for about a month now.

Thanks again for listening and offering your wonderful advice,

Jen

> >

> > Latoya,

> >

> > Well, it seems that most evenings I gravitate towards chocolate. It consumes

me- the concept of it. The cravings dominate my mind and I am likely confusing

my mind's cravings for my body's cravings. I think that's what I have so much

trouble with. Determining what my BODY wants vs what my mind wants. I just don't

know how to do it. My mind takes over it seems- especially in the evenings.

> >

> > You mentioned that you wait until you are sure that your body wants those

particular foods at the time. How do you do it?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Jen

>

[Guest guest]

I'd like to share my ice cream story to hopefully help anyone and make any of

you feel better.

I was that way with ice cream that you are with chocolate.

For two years after I started IE I had ice cream ALL the time in my freezer.

When I stopped forbidding it to myself and ate it when I wanted (sometimes not

even when I wasn't hungry) it finally lost it's hold on me.

I highly recommend answering Latoya's questions and determining why chocolate

has a hold on you.

For me, my Mom did not allow us to have ice cream and instead she made us have

Ice Milk. But when I went to my Dad's on the weekends, we would often have

dinner, go for a walk and then come home make an ice cream (with real ice cream)

sundae with chocolate sauce and chopped nuts. I realized that I equated my

Dad's love to eating ice cream therefore, ice cream = love. I loved ice cream

and ice cream loved me back!

Once I always had ice cream on hand and quite forbidding it, I found ice cream

being in my freezer for so long it would crystalize. Now I can have a little

bit and be satisfied with that and I don't have to have it ever single night.

But I did have it every single night for a very, very long time until it finally

did not become so important.

Another great book that helped me figure this out was Am I Hungry? by Dr.

May and there are some great tele-workshops that you can sign up. This

is how I learned about IE.

Gook Luck,

Alana

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the feedback!

> > > >

> > > > Well, my motivation in making them was basically that I was in the mood

for chocolate and my body seemed to be okay with that and I knew that depriving

myself of them contradicts what I am trying to accomplish. So I made them,

hoping I would save lots of them for later! That didn't happen!

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for reassuring me that I don't have to know WHY I binged right

now. It's a work in process and I have to forgive myself for not always knowing.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I'd like to share my ice cream story to hopefully help anyone and make any of

you feel better.

I was that way with ice cream that you are with chocolate.

For two years after I started IE I had ice cream ALL the time in my freezer.

When I stopped forbidding it to myself and ate it when I wanted (sometimes not

even when I wasn't hungry) it finally lost it's hold on me.

I highly recommend answering Latoya's questions and determining why chocolate

has a hold on you.

For me, my Mom did not allow us to have ice cream and instead she made us have

Ice Milk. But when I went to my Dad's on the weekends, we would often have

dinner, go for a walk and then come home make an ice cream (with real ice cream)

sundae with chocolate sauce and chopped nuts. I realized that I equated my

Dad's love to eating ice cream therefore, ice cream = love. I loved ice cream

and ice cream loved me back!

Once I always had ice cream on hand and quite forbidding it, I found ice cream

being in my freezer for so long it would crystalize. Now I can have a little

bit and be satisfied with that and I don't have to have it ever single night.

But I did have it every single night for a very, very long time until it finally

did not become so important.

Another great book that helped me figure this out was Am I Hungry? by Dr.

May and there are some great tele-workshops that you can sign up. This

is how I learned about IE.

Gook Luck,

Alana

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the feedback!

> > > >

> > > > Well, my motivation in making them was basically that I was in the mood

for chocolate and my body seemed to be okay with that and I knew that depriving

myself of them contradicts what I am trying to accomplish. So I made them,

hoping I would save lots of them for later! That didn't happen!

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for reassuring me that I don't have to know WHY I binged right

now. It's a work in process and I have to forgive myself for not always knowing.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I'd like to share my ice cream story to hopefully help anyone and make any of

you feel better.

I was that way with ice cream that you are with chocolate.

For two years after I started IE I had ice cream ALL the time in my freezer.

When I stopped forbidding it to myself and ate it when I wanted (sometimes not

even when I wasn't hungry) it finally lost it's hold on me.

I highly recommend answering Latoya's questions and determining why chocolate

has a hold on you.

For me, my Mom did not allow us to have ice cream and instead she made us have

Ice Milk. But when I went to my Dad's on the weekends, we would often have

dinner, go for a walk and then come home make an ice cream (with real ice cream)

sundae with chocolate sauce and chopped nuts. I realized that I equated my

Dad's love to eating ice cream therefore, ice cream = love. I loved ice cream

and ice cream loved me back!

Once I always had ice cream on hand and quite forbidding it, I found ice cream

being in my freezer for so long it would crystalize. Now I can have a little

bit and be satisfied with that and I don't have to have it ever single night.

But I did have it every single night for a very, very long time until it finally

did not become so important.

Another great book that helped me figure this out was Am I Hungry? by Dr.

May and there are some great tele-workshops that you can sign up. This

is how I learned about IE.

Gook Luck,

Alana

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the feedback!

> > > >

> > > > Well, my motivation in making them was basically that I was in the mood

for chocolate and my body seemed to be okay with that and I knew that depriving

myself of them contradicts what I am trying to accomplish. So I made them,

hoping I would save lots of them for later! That didn't happen!

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for reassuring me that I don't have to know WHY I binged right

now. It's a work in process and I have to forgive myself for not always knowing.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Jen,

A month is seriously, like a drop in the bucket in terms of the time it's going

to take many of us to master intuitive eating. I'm the queen of impatience. I

want this to be easy, like yesterday. So I get what you're feeling, but I don't

think any of us can make any conclusions about whether or not we're capable of

being an intuitive eater after just one month. Plus, there's no such thing as

" behind " . Each of us is going to go at our own pace. There's no calendar by

which any given principle has to be mastered.

If you're really struggling, I would recommend seeing if you can find a

therapist or other specialist on IE that you can talk with. As I mentioned

before, I just attended an IE workshop and I'm generally pretty skeptical of

shelling out cash for that kind of thing, but I actually found it really helpful

to spend time with someone who has not only practiced IE herself for many years,

but who is trained to teach others to apply it, including people with serious

clinical eating disorders. It was absolutely worth the expense. I found mine

just by googling the words intuitive eating and my city. But looking for

therapists specializing in eating and body image issues is another good way to

find someone. Also, if there's nothing near you, I found this website, that

offers online courses, too.

http://amihungry.com/

Something to think about.

Josie

>

> I pray that all of these binges (I had more last week) are not indicative of

the fact that I can't become an intuitive eater. I try every single day. I don't

give up. But I often feel lost and out of control and this scares me so much. I

have no idea how long it takes others to end most of the huge binges once they

begin IE and I feel so behind. I have been at this for about a month now.

>

> Thanks again for listening and offering your wonderful advice,

> Jen

>

[Guest guest]

Working on that. As much as I am trying to be fair to myself, I know that there

is a very obstinate part of me that feels at least somewhat guilty about eating

these foods. And that is what I have to " unlearn " and reteach myself that all

foods are fine. It's quite a process, though!

> >

> > Hi Alana,

> >

> > >

> > I am practicing with keeping some of those foods in my house (keeping plenty

of them so I don't feel deprived) and I have ended up bingeing on them. So I

vacillate between keeping them in the house or keeping them out of the house. I

know what the IE theory is on that, but I often wonder how I can handle it.

> >

> > Thanks again for your help!

> > Jen

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Working on that. As much as I am trying to be fair to myself, I know that there

is a very obstinate part of me that feels at least somewhat guilty about eating

these foods. And that is what I have to " unlearn " and reteach myself that all

foods are fine. It's quite a process, though!

> >

> > Hi Alana,

> >

> > >

> > I am practicing with keeping some of those foods in my house (keeping plenty

of them so I don't feel deprived) and I have ended up bingeing on them. So I

vacillate between keeping them in the house or keeping them out of the house. I

know what the IE theory is on that, but I often wonder how I can handle it.

> >

> > Thanks again for your help!

> > Jen

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Working on that. As much as I am trying to be fair to myself, I know that there

is a very obstinate part of me that feels at least somewhat guilty about eating

these foods. And that is what I have to " unlearn " and reteach myself that all

foods are fine. It's quite a process, though!

> >

> > Hi Alana,

> >

> > >

> > I am practicing with keeping some of those foods in my house (keeping plenty

of them so I don't feel deprived) and I have ended up bingeing on them. So I

vacillate between keeping them in the house or keeping them out of the house. I

know what the IE theory is on that, but I often wonder how I can handle it.

> >

> > Thanks again for your help!

> > Jen

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My name is Elena. I am 29, live in Russia. I have been struggling with my weight for 10 years with a temporary success and then failure. I am so tired to control myself (be on a diet, fastening, gym) and then suffer from complete uncontrollable behavior (overeating and unwished to attend a gym club). It is really a crazy life. I used to try all diets, different eating systems, exercising for 2 hours in gym. I thought that only strong control on my body would help me to lose weight and keep it away. However after my strong control now my body refused to listen to

me. I couldn’t force myself to go to gym, to be on diet. My body didn’t want to come back to the restriction life, I started overeating, and each day I swore that it is my last day of overeating and tomorrow I will start a new life to restrict myself from eating bad food and go to gym. And my tomorrow never comes. Finally I gained weight. So it is awful life, I thought that I could become crazy if I did not stop myself. So I found this site and consciously and unconsciously I feel that this is the best method I have ever heard. As I a “10 year experienced†dietician so I know all about dieting and exercising, about all linked with weight problems, but I never listened to my body and that was very strange as earlier I thought that our body is very silly and only strict control of the mind could help me to have a desired weight and look attractive. But after

10 years I understood that I completely failed. I need something to change my attitudes, behaivour, my relationship with food. I would very much like to have harmony and balance and the support of the people facing with such problems and overcoming them. Thank you very much indeed for my membership and hope on your support.

Best regards,

Elena

[Guest guest]

My name is Elena. I am 29, live in Russia. I have been struggling with my weight for 10 years with a temporary success and then failure. I am so tired to control myself (be on a diet, fastening, gym) and then suffer from complete uncontrollable behavior (overeating and unwished to attend a gym club). It is really a crazy life. I used to try all diets, different eating systems, exercising for 2 hours in gym. I thought that only strong control on my body would help me to lose weight and keep it away. However after my strong control now my body refused to listen to

me. I couldn’t force myself to go to gym, to be on diet. My body didn’t want to come back to the restriction life, I started overeating, and each day I swore that it is my last day of overeating and tomorrow I will start a new life to restrict myself from eating bad food and go to gym. And my tomorrow never comes. Finally I gained weight. So it is awful life, I thought that I could become crazy if I did not stop myself. So I found this site and consciously and unconsciously I feel that this is the best method I have ever heard. As I a “10 year experienced†dietician so I know all about dieting and exercising, about all linked with weight problems, but I never listened to my body and that was very strange as earlier I thought that our body is very silly and only strict control of the mind could help me to have a desired weight and look attractive. But after

10 years I understood that I completely failed. I need something to change my attitudes, behaivour, my relationship with food. I would very much like to have harmony and balance and the support of the people facing with such problems and overcoming them. Thank you very much indeed for my membership and hope on your support.

Best regards,

Elena

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group Elena! Glad you are here, and I know you will find support from this group. Pick up a copy of the book Intuitive Eating by Tribole and Elyse Resch. It is written by nutritionists such as yourself who worked hard over many years to find something that really works without the diet control and failure. Take care, Tana To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tue, August 3, 2010 8:45:14 PMSubject: Re: So confused about my binge last night...

My name is Elena. I am 29, live in Russia . I have been struggling with my weight for 10 years with a temporary success and then failure. I am so tired to control myself (be on a diet, fastening, gym) and then suffer from complete uncontrollable behavior (overeating and unwished to attend a gym club). It is really a crazy life. I used to try all diets, different eating systems, exercising for 2 hours in gym. I thought that only strong control on my body would help me to lose weight and keep it away. However after my strong control now my body refused to listen to

me. I couldn’t force myself to go to gym, to be on diet. My body didn’t want to come back to the restriction life, I started overeating, and each day I swore that it is my last day of overeating and tomorrow I will start a new life to restrict myself from eating bad food and go to gym. And my tomorrow never comes. Finally I gained weight. So it is awful life, I thought that I could become crazy if I did not stop myself. So I found this site and consciously and unconsciously I feel that this is the best method I have ever heard. As I a “10 year experienced†dietician so I know all about dieting and exercising, about all linked with weight problems, but I never listened to my body and that was very strange as earlier I thought that our body is very silly and only strict control of the mind could help me to have a desired weight and look attractive. But after

10 years I understood that I completely failed. I need something to change my attitudes, behaivour, my relationship with food. I would very much like to have harmony and balance and the support of the people facing with such problems and overcoming them. Thank you very much indeed for my membership and hope on your support. Best regards, Elena

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group Elena! Glad you are here, and I know you will find support from this group. Pick up a copy of the book Intuitive Eating by Tribole and Elyse Resch. It is written by nutritionists such as yourself who worked hard over many years to find something that really works without the diet control and failure. Take care, Tana To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tue, August 3, 2010 8:45:14 PMSubject: Re: So confused about my binge last night...

My name is Elena. I am 29, live in Russia . I have been struggling with my weight for 10 years with a temporary success and then failure. I am so tired to control myself (be on a diet, fastening, gym) and then suffer from complete uncontrollable behavior (overeating and unwished to attend a gym club). It is really a crazy life. I used to try all diets, different eating systems, exercising for 2 hours in gym. I thought that only strong control on my body would help me to lose weight and keep it away. However after my strong control now my body refused to listen to

me. I couldn’t force myself to go to gym, to be on diet. My body didn’t want to come back to the restriction life, I started overeating, and each day I swore that it is my last day of overeating and tomorrow I will start a new life to restrict myself from eating bad food and go to gym. And my tomorrow never comes. Finally I gained weight. So it is awful life, I thought that I could become crazy if I did not stop myself. So I found this site and consciously and unconsciously I feel that this is the best method I have ever heard. As I a “10 year experienced†dietician so I know all about dieting and exercising, about all linked with weight problems, but I never listened to my body and that was very strange as earlier I thought that our body is very silly and only strict control of the mind could help me to have a desired weight and look attractive. But after

10 years I understood that I completely failed. I need something to change my attitudes, behaivour, my relationship with food. I would very much like to have harmony and balance and the support of the people facing with such problems and overcoming them. Thank you very much indeed for my membership and hope on your support. Best regards, Elena

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group Elena! Glad you are here, and I know you will find support from this group. Pick up a copy of the book Intuitive Eating by Tribole and Elyse Resch. It is written by nutritionists such as yourself who worked hard over many years to find something that really works without the diet control and failure. Take care, Tana To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tue, August 3, 2010 8:45:14 PMSubject: Re: So confused about my binge last night...

My name is Elena. I am 29, live in Russia . I have been struggling with my weight for 10 years with a temporary success and then failure. I am so tired to control myself (be on a diet, fastening, gym) and then suffer from complete uncontrollable behavior (overeating and unwished to attend a gym club). It is really a crazy life. I used to try all diets, different eating systems, exercising for 2 hours in gym. I thought that only strong control on my body would help me to lose weight and keep it away. However after my strong control now my body refused to listen to

me. I couldn’t force myself to go to gym, to be on diet. My body didn’t want to come back to the restriction life, I started overeating, and each day I swore that it is my last day of overeating and tomorrow I will start a new life to restrict myself from eating bad food and go to gym. And my tomorrow never comes. Finally I gained weight. So it is awful life, I thought that I could become crazy if I did not stop myself. So I found this site and consciously and unconsciously I feel that this is the best method I have ever heard. As I a “10 year experienced†dietician so I know all about dieting and exercising, about all linked with weight problems, but I never listened to my body and that was very strange as earlier I thought that our body is very silly and only strict control of the mind could help me to have a desired weight and look attractive. But after

10 years I understood that I completely failed. I need something to change my attitudes, behaivour, my relationship with food. I would very much like to have harmony and balance and the support of the people facing with such problems and overcoming them. Thank you very much indeed for my membership and hope on your support. Best regards, Elena

[Guest guest]

Welcome to our group, Elena. You very elegantly describe exactly how frustrating and crazy-making dieting can be! If I were you, I would save what you wrote in a file so you can go back and read it again if you find yourself tempted to try to go back to dieting. I know I will save what you wrote!

I share your feeling of how right is this way of respecting my body and coming into balance. It's such a relief.

I look forward to hearing more from you.

All best,

Laurie

Re: So confused about my binge last night...

My name is Elena. I am 29, live in Russia. I have been struggling with my weight for 10 years with a temporary success and then failure. I am so tired to control myself (be on a diet, fastening, gym) and then suffer from complete uncontrollable behavior (overeating and unwished to attend a gym club). It is really a crazy life. I used to try all diets, different eating systems, exercising for 2 hours in gym. I thought that only strong control on my body would help me to lose weight and keep it away. However after my strong control now my body refused to listen to me. I couldn’t force myself to go to gym, to be on diet. My body didn’t want to come back to the restriction life, I started overeating, and each day I swore that it is my last day of overeating and tomorrow I will start a new life to restrict myself from eating bad food and go to gym. And my tomorrow never comes. Finally I gained weight. So it is awful life, I thought that I could become crazy if I did not stop myself. So I found this site and consciously and unconsciously I feel that this is the best method I have ever heard. As I a “10 year experienced†dietician so I know all about dieting and exercising, about all linked with weight problems, but I never listened to my body and that was very strange as earlier I thought that our body is very silly and only strict control of the mind could help me to have a desired weight and look attractive. But after 10 years I understood that I completely failed. I need something to change my attitudes, behaivour, my relationship with food. I would very much like to have harmony and balance and the support of the people facing with such problems and overcoming them. Thank you very much indeed for my membership and hope on your support.

Best regards, Elena

[Guest guest]

Welcome to our group, Elena. You very elegantly describe exactly how frustrating and crazy-making dieting can be! If I were you, I would save what you wrote in a file so you can go back and read it again if you find yourself tempted to try to go back to dieting. I know I will save what you wrote!

I share your feeling of how right is this way of respecting my body and coming into balance. It's such a relief.

I look forward to hearing more from you.

All best,

Laurie

Re: So confused about my binge last night...

My name is Elena. I am 29, live in Russia. I have been struggling with my weight for 10 years with a temporary success and then failure. I am so tired to control myself (be on a diet, fastening, gym) and then suffer from complete uncontrollable behavior (overeating and unwished to attend a gym club). It is really a crazy life. I used to try all diets, different eating systems, exercising for 2 hours in gym. I thought that only strong control on my body would help me to lose weight and keep it away. However after my strong control now my body refused to listen to me. I couldn’t force myself to go to gym, to be on diet. My body didn’t want to come back to the restriction life, I started overeating, and each day I swore that it is my last day of overeating and tomorrow I will start a new life to restrict myself from eating bad food and go to gym. And my tomorrow never comes. Finally I gained weight. So it is awful life, I thought that I could become crazy if I did not stop myself. So I found this site and consciously and unconsciously I feel that this is the best method I have ever heard. As I a “10 year experienced†dietician so I know all about dieting and exercising, about all linked with weight problems, but I never listened to my body and that was very strange as earlier I thought that our body is very silly and only strict control of the mind could help me to have a desired weight and look attractive. But after 10 years I understood that I completely failed. I need something to change my attitudes, behaivour, my relationship with food. I would very much like to have harmony and balance and the support of the people facing with such problems and overcoming them. Thank you very much indeed for my membership and hope on your support.

Best regards, Elena

[Guest guest]

Welcome to our group, Elena. You very elegantly describe exactly how frustrating and crazy-making dieting can be! If I were you, I would save what you wrote in a file so you can go back and read it again if you find yourself tempted to try to go back to dieting. I know I will save what you wrote!

I share your feeling of how right is this way of respecting my body and coming into balance. It's such a relief.

I look forward to hearing more from you.

All best,

Laurie

Re: So confused about my binge last night...

My name is Elena. I am 29, live in Russia. I have been struggling with my weight for 10 years with a temporary success and then failure. I am so tired to control myself (be on a diet, fastening, gym) and then suffer from complete uncontrollable behavior (overeating and unwished to attend a gym club). It is really a crazy life. I used to try all diets, different eating systems, exercising for 2 hours in gym. I thought that only strong control on my body would help me to lose weight and keep it away. However after my strong control now my body refused to listen to me. I couldn’t force myself to go to gym, to be on diet. My body didn’t want to come back to the restriction life, I started overeating, and each day I swore that it is my last day of overeating and tomorrow I will start a new life to restrict myself from eating bad food and go to gym. And my tomorrow never comes. Finally I gained weight. So it is awful life, I thought that I could become crazy if I did not stop myself. So I found this site and consciously and unconsciously I feel that this is the best method I have ever heard. As I a “10 year experienced†dietician so I know all about dieting and exercising, about all linked with weight problems, but I never listened to my body and that was very strange as earlier I thought that our body is very silly and only strict control of the mind could help me to have a desired weight and look attractive. But after 10 years I understood that I completely failed. I need something to change my attitudes, behaivour, my relationship with food. I would very much like to have harmony and balance and the support of the people facing with such problems and overcoming them. Thank you very much indeed for my membership and hope on your support.

Best regards, Elena

[Guest guest]

Dear Tana,

thanks a lot indeed for your attenition, care and support. I shall try to find this book to read. Unfortunatelly there is no book in our bookshops in Russia but I'll try to download from the sites.

Best regards,

Elena

Subject: Re: Re: So confused about my binge last night...To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 1:51 PM

Welcome to the group Elena! Glad you are here, and I know you will find support from this group. Pick up a copy of the book Intuitive Eating by Tribole and Elyse Resch. It is written by nutritionists such as yourself who worked hard over many years to find something that really works without the diet control and failure.

Take care,

Tana

From: "Yelena, Yelena Pashkova, Pashkova" <yelenapashkova@ yahoo.com>To: IntuitiveEating_ Support@yahoogro ups.comSent: Tue, August 3, 2010 8:45:14 PMSubject: [intuitiveEating_ Support] Re: So confused about my binge last night...

My name is Elena. I am 29, live in Russia . I have been struggling with my weight for 10 years with a temporary success and then failure. I am so tired to control myself (be on a diet, fastening, gym) and then suffer from complete uncontrollable behavior (overeating and unwished to attend a gym club). It is really a crazy life. I used to try all diets, different eating systems, exercising for 2 hours in gym. I thought that only strong control on my body would help me to lose weight and keep it away. However after my strong control now my body refused to listen to me. I couldn’t force myself to go to gym, to be on diet. My body didn’t want to come back to the restriction life, I started overeating, and each day I swore that it is my last day of overeating and tomorrow I will start a new life to restrict myself from eating bad food and go to gym. And my tomorrow

never comes. Finally I gained weight. So it is awful life, I thought that I could become crazy if I did not stop myself. So I found this site and consciously and unconsciously I feel that this is the best method I have ever heard. As I a “10 year experienced†dietician so I know all about dieting and exercising, about all linked with weight problems, but I never listened to my body and that was very strange as earlier I thought that our body is very silly and only strict control of the mind could help me to have a desired weight and look attractive. But after 10 years I understood that I completely failed. I need something to change my attitudes, behaivour, my relationship with food. I would very much like to have harmony and balance and the support of the people facing with such problems and overcoming them. Thank you very much indeed for my membership and hope on your support.

Best regards,

Elena

[Guest guest]

Dear Tana,

thanks a lot indeed for your attenition, care and support. I shall try to find this book to read. Unfortunatelly there is no book in our bookshops in Russia but I'll try to download from the sites.

Best regards,

Elena

Subject: Re: Re: So confused about my binge last night...To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 1:51 PM

Welcome to the group Elena! Glad you are here, and I know you will find support from this group. Pick up a copy of the book Intuitive Eating by Tribole and Elyse Resch. It is written by nutritionists such as yourself who worked hard over many years to find something that really works without the diet control and failure.

Take care,

Tana

From: "Yelena, Yelena Pashkova, Pashkova" <yelenapashkova@ yahoo.com>To: IntuitiveEating_ Support@yahoogro ups.comSent: Tue, August 3, 2010 8:45:14 PMSubject: [intuitiveEating_ Support] Re: So confused about my binge last night...

My name is Elena. I am 29, live in Russia . I have been struggling with my weight for 10 years with a temporary success and then failure. I am so tired to control myself (be on a diet, fastening, gym) and then suffer from complete uncontrollable behavior (overeating and unwished to attend a gym club). It is really a crazy life. I used to try all diets, different eating systems, exercising for 2 hours in gym. I thought that only strong control on my body would help me to lose weight and keep it away. However after my strong control now my body refused to listen to me. I couldn’t force myself to go to gym, to be on diet. My body didn’t want to come back to the restriction life, I started overeating, and each day I swore that it is my last day of overeating and tomorrow I will start a new life to restrict myself from eating bad food and go to gym. And my tomorrow

never comes. Finally I gained weight. So it is awful life, I thought that I could become crazy if I did not stop myself. So I found this site and consciously and unconsciously I feel that this is the best method I have ever heard. As I a “10 year experienced†dietician so I know all about dieting and exercising, about all linked with weight problems, but I never listened to my body and that was very strange as earlier I thought that our body is very silly and only strict control of the mind could help me to have a desired weight and look attractive. But after 10 years I understood that I completely failed. I need something to change my attitudes, behaivour, my relationship with food. I would very much like to have harmony and balance and the support of the people facing with such problems and overcoming them. Thank you very much indeed for my membership and hope on your support.

Best regards,

Elena

[Guest guest]

Latoya,

Thanks so much!! I am looking forward to reading that article. I'll let you know

what I think:)

I will say this, I am almost done with the IE book and can't seem to put it

down. I had assumed initially that Geneen's WFG was the one for me but bought IE

and am loving it. Geneen's book is beautiful and insightful and valuable but it

is also very abstract in ways and IE seems to speak to me more directly.

Honestly, it just helps me more! I LOVE this book!

Best,

Jen

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> > Latoya,

> >

> > I do meditate a bit daily and breathe- try to get centered and present. I

am doing it more often than I ever have before and I am finding that my body

really does want to be in that state even when my mind isn't interested.

> >

> > I am working on letting go of the guilt and self punishment I associate with

eating these sugars and carbs etc. This has been very challenging but I am

adamant about fighting the loud voice that berates me for even wanting those

foods. I feel determined to get further in this process.

> >

> > Thanks again,

> > Jen

>

[Guest guest]

Latoya,

Thanks so much!! I am looking forward to reading that article. I'll let you know

what I think:)

I will say this, I am almost done with the IE book and can't seem to put it

down. I had assumed initially that Geneen's WFG was the one for me but bought IE

and am loving it. Geneen's book is beautiful and insightful and valuable but it

is also very abstract in ways and IE seems to speak to me more directly.

Honestly, it just helps me more! I LOVE this book!

Best,

Jen

> >

> > Latoya,

> >

> > I do meditate a bit daily and breathe- try to get centered and present. I

am doing it more often than I ever have before and I am finding that my body

really does want to be in that state even when my mind isn't interested.

> >

> > I am working on letting go of the guilt and self punishment I associate with

eating these sugars and carbs etc. This has been very challenging but I am

adamant about fighting the loud voice that berates me for even wanting those

foods. I feel determined to get further in this process.

> >

> > Thanks again,

> > Jen

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jen!

I've never had this control around chocolate before IE, but it is certainly not

fool proof or anything. I just feel like I actually trust myself more. I

started this process with IE over three months ago now. It is just starting to

click. My first attempt was a bag of chocolate chip cookies the first week,

and I ate the entire bag in one day. I haven't weighed myself at all, but I

could tell that I did gain at the beginning and maybe lost now - but really I

don't know! I think my weight is in my head. I've continued to wear the same

clothes. The difference is that I've been trying to accept myself as I am and

that is starting to click as well. I have yet to have a really really bad day

that does not end with me and alot chocolate! I think this requires a lot of

patience with oneself which is so different than the quick fix dieting.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for the feedback!

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, my motivation in making them was basically that I was in the

mood for chocolate and my body seemed to be okay with that and I knew that

depriving myself of them contradicts what I am trying to accomplish. So I made

them, hoping I would save lots of them for later! That didn't happen!

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for reassuring me that I don't have to know WHY I binged right

now. It's a work in process and I have to forgive myself for not always knowing.

> > > >

> > >

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