RE: City / County Ordinances

[Guest guest]

>

> They walk through the ER proud as a peacock with their chests

> stuck out just wanting someone to see them.

>

> Larry D.

And what is Larry D. doing by making such a statement if not strutting?

Inquiring minds want to know. Pot? Kettle? Which one is the blacker?

What is the future of EMS with this kind of attitude still on the

streets? This egoistic turf crap has been retarding professional growth

for a couple of decades at least. Will we never learn?

Larry

[Guest guest]

>

> They walk through the ER proud as a peacock with their chests

> stuck out just wanting someone to see them.

>

> Larry D.

And what is Larry D. doing by making such a statement if not strutting?

Inquiring minds want to know. Pot? Kettle? Which one is the blacker?

What is the future of EMS with this kind of attitude still on the

streets? This egoistic turf crap has been retarding professional growth

for a couple of decades at least. Will we never learn?

Larry

[Guest guest]

>

> They walk through the ER proud as a peacock with their chests

> stuck out just wanting someone to see them.

>

> Larry D.

And what is Larry D. doing by making such a statement if not strutting?

Inquiring minds want to know. Pot? Kettle? Which one is the blacker?

What is the future of EMS with this kind of attitude still on the

streets? This egoistic turf crap has been retarding professional growth

for a couple of decades at least. Will we never learn?

Larry

[Guest guest]

Larry,

You are right on some of your statements. However, I find most of your

comments insulting to many of our fellow medics. Your words demonstrate a

serious lack of understanding and compassion for many of the people that

requires ambulance transportation.

For you to say that " It tickles me when I see them come into the ER after

running RLS from a nursing home. They walk through the ER proud as a peacock

with their chests stuck out just wanting someone to see them " , I assure you

that it is your own self pride that you are tickled about. Feeding your own

ego due to maybe others recognizing who and what you are. You are a sad

example of a patient advocate.

Most Medics, regardless of 911 or Transport Medic understands that patient

care and patient consideration is the focus of what we (EMS) does. Your

words define you as an all about you sort of person or maybe you will

understand an egocentric person.

We in EMS have spent many years " eating our own " . We find reasons to

separate Emergency from Non-Emergency as well as Paid from Volunteer. After

many years of reading that sort of tripe, those with experience running 911

and or General Transports, Paid or Volunteer can do better without your

expressed philosophy.

Medics with all sorts of training, experience and job level achievement have

and will continue to make ambulance runs that do not require all the " tools "

in the ambulance. However, the fact that someone's Grandmother,

Grandfather, Mother or Father has a professional performing Medic at their

bedside when the need arises is important to me and I dare say many others.

Reconsider you postion statements if you plan to continue a career in EMS,

please.

Britton Waldron, EMT-LP

RE: City / County Ordinances

>

>

> Interesting point about privates running code 3. We are required to do

> annual EVO training and the privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most

> private employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt it! Said they

> are just as good at being MICU. Doubt it!! The body haulers around these

> parts generally do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal EMS

> experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me when I see them come

> into the ER after running RLS from a nursing home. They walk through the

> ER proud as a peacock with their chests stuck out just wanting someone to

> see them.

>

> Larry D.

>

[Guest guest]

Larry,

You are right on some of your statements. However, I find most of your

comments insulting to many of our fellow medics. Your words demonstrate a

serious lack of understanding and compassion for many of the people that

requires ambulance transportation.

For you to say that " It tickles me when I see them come into the ER after

running RLS from a nursing home. They walk through the ER proud as a peacock

with their chests stuck out just wanting someone to see them " , I assure you

that it is your own self pride that you are tickled about. Feeding your own

ego due to maybe others recognizing who and what you are. You are a sad

example of a patient advocate.

Most Medics, regardless of 911 or Transport Medic understands that patient

care and patient consideration is the focus of what we (EMS) does. Your

words define you as an all about you sort of person or maybe you will

understand an egocentric person.

We in EMS have spent many years " eating our own " . We find reasons to

separate Emergency from Non-Emergency as well as Paid from Volunteer. After

many years of reading that sort of tripe, those with experience running 911

and or General Transports, Paid or Volunteer can do better without your

expressed philosophy.

Medics with all sorts of training, experience and job level achievement have

and will continue to make ambulance runs that do not require all the " tools "

in the ambulance. However, the fact that someone's Grandmother,

Grandfather, Mother or Father has a professional performing Medic at their

bedside when the need arises is important to me and I dare say many others.

Reconsider you postion statements if you plan to continue a career in EMS,

please.

Britton Waldron, EMT-LP

RE: City / County Ordinances

>

>

> Interesting point about privates running code 3. We are required to do

> annual EVO training and the privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most

> private employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt it! Said they

> are just as good at being MICU. Doubt it!! The body haulers around these

> parts generally do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal EMS

> experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me when I see them come

> into the ER after running RLS from a nursing home. They walk through the

> ER proud as a peacock with their chests stuck out just wanting someone to

> see them.

>

> Larry D.

>

[Guest guest]

Very reasonably put Mr. Waldron, but not severe enough by several

orders of magnitude. Pompous, egotistic morons like Mr. Larry D are

part and parcel of why EMS remains the 2nd class healthcare citizen

we are. Mr. Larry D is a perfect example of why we need to raise the

bar. To keep self centered egotistic morons like Mr. Larry D and

other bottom feeders like him out of the workforce; some of our

colleagues will go out there tomorrow and lament the low wages and

lack of respect. A single look at statements like Mr. Larry D's and

the reasons become evident. He and the others like him drag us all

down to their level. None of us are any better than the lowest common

denominator. What a damn shame.

> Larry,

>

> You are right on some of your statements. However, I find most of

your

> comments insulting to many of our fellow medics. Your words

demonstrate a

> serious lack of understanding and compassion for many of the people

that

> requires ambulance transportation.

>

> For you to say that " It tickles me when I see them come into the ER

after

> running RLS from a nursing home. They walk through the ER proud as

a peacock

> with their chests stuck out just wanting someone to see them " , I

assure you

> that it is your own self pride that you are tickled about. Feeding

your own

> ego due to maybe others recognizing who and what you are. You are

a sad

> example of a patient advocate.

>

> Most Medics, regardless of 911 or Transport Medic understands that

patient

> care and patient consideration is the focus of what we (EMS) does.

Your

> words define you as an all about you sort of person or maybe you

will

> understand an egocentric person.

>

> We in EMS have spent many years " eating our own " . We find reasons

to

> separate Emergency from Non-Emergency as well as Paid from

Volunteer. After

> many years of reading that sort of tripe, those with experience

running 911

> and or General Transports, Paid or Volunteer can do better without

your

> expressed philosophy.

>

> Medics with all sorts of training, experience and job level

achievement have

> and will continue to make ambulance runs that do not require all

the " tools "

> in the ambulance. However, the fact that someone's Grandmother,

> Grandfather, Mother or Father has a professional performing Medic

at their

> bedside when the need arises is important to me and I dare say many

others.

>

> Reconsider you postion statements if you plan to continue a career

in EMS,

> please.

>

> Britton Waldron, EMT-LP

>

>

> RE: City / County Ordinances

>

>

> >

> >

> > Interesting point about privates running code 3. We are required

to do

> > annual EVO training and the privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said

most

> > private employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt it!

Said they

> > are just as good at being MICU. Doubt it!! The body haulers

around these

> > parts generally do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal

EMS

> > experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me when I see

them come

> > into the ER after running RLS from a nursing home. They walk

through the

> > ER proud as a peacock with their chests stuck out just wanting

someone to

> > see them.

> >

> > Larry D.

> >

[Guest guest]

Very reasonably put Mr. Waldron, but not severe enough by several

orders of magnitude. Pompous, egotistic morons like Mr. Larry D are

part and parcel of why EMS remains the 2nd class healthcare citizen

we are. Mr. Larry D is a perfect example of why we need to raise the

bar. To keep self centered egotistic morons like Mr. Larry D and

other bottom feeders like him out of the workforce; some of our

colleagues will go out there tomorrow and lament the low wages and

lack of respect. A single look at statements like Mr. Larry D's and

the reasons become evident. He and the others like him drag us all

down to their level. None of us are any better than the lowest common

denominator. What a damn shame.

> Larry,

>

> You are right on some of your statements. However, I find most of

your

> comments insulting to many of our fellow medics. Your words

demonstrate a

> serious lack of understanding and compassion for many of the people

that

> requires ambulance transportation.

>

> For you to say that " It tickles me when I see them come into the ER

after

> running RLS from a nursing home. They walk through the ER proud as

a peacock

> with their chests stuck out just wanting someone to see them " , I

assure you

> that it is your own self pride that you are tickled about. Feeding

your own

> ego due to maybe others recognizing who and what you are. You are

a sad

> example of a patient advocate.

>

> Most Medics, regardless of 911 or Transport Medic understands that

patient

> care and patient consideration is the focus of what we (EMS) does.

Your

> words define you as an all about you sort of person or maybe you

will

> understand an egocentric person.

>

> We in EMS have spent many years " eating our own " . We find reasons

to

> separate Emergency from Non-Emergency as well as Paid from

Volunteer. After

> many years of reading that sort of tripe, those with experience

running 911

> and or General Transports, Paid or Volunteer can do better without

your

> expressed philosophy.

>

> Medics with all sorts of training, experience and job level

achievement have

> and will continue to make ambulance runs that do not require all

the " tools "

> in the ambulance. However, the fact that someone's Grandmother,

> Grandfather, Mother or Father has a professional performing Medic

at their

> bedside when the need arises is important to me and I dare say many

others.

>

> Reconsider you postion statements if you plan to continue a career

in EMS,

> please.

>

> Britton Waldron, EMT-LP

>

>

> RE: City / County Ordinances

>

>

> >

> >

> > Interesting point about privates running code 3. We are required

to do

> > annual EVO training and the privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said

most

> > private employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt it!

Said they

> > are just as good at being MICU. Doubt it!! The body haulers

around these

> > parts generally do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal

EMS

> > experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me when I see

them come

> > into the ER after running RLS from a nursing home. They walk

through the

> > ER proud as a peacock with their chests stuck out just wanting

someone to

> > see them.

> >

> > Larry D.

> >

[Guest guest]

Very reasonably put Mr. Waldron, but not severe enough by several

orders of magnitude. Pompous, egotistic morons like Mr. Larry D are

part and parcel of why EMS remains the 2nd class healthcare citizen

we are. Mr. Larry D is a perfect example of why we need to raise the

bar. To keep self centered egotistic morons like Mr. Larry D and

other bottom feeders like him out of the workforce; some of our

colleagues will go out there tomorrow and lament the low wages and

lack of respect. A single look at statements like Mr. Larry D's and

the reasons become evident. He and the others like him drag us all

down to their level. None of us are any better than the lowest common

denominator. What a damn shame.

> Larry,

>

> You are right on some of your statements. However, I find most of

your

> comments insulting to many of our fellow medics. Your words

demonstrate a

> serious lack of understanding and compassion for many of the people

that

> requires ambulance transportation.

>

> For you to say that " It tickles me when I see them come into the ER

after

> running RLS from a nursing home. They walk through the ER proud as

a peacock

> with their chests stuck out just wanting someone to see them " , I

assure you

> that it is your own self pride that you are tickled about. Feeding

your own

> ego due to maybe others recognizing who and what you are. You are

a sad

> example of a patient advocate.

>

> Most Medics, regardless of 911 or Transport Medic understands that

patient

> care and patient consideration is the focus of what we (EMS) does.

Your

> words define you as an all about you sort of person or maybe you

will

> understand an egocentric person.

>

> We in EMS have spent many years " eating our own " . We find reasons

to

> separate Emergency from Non-Emergency as well as Paid from

Volunteer. After

> many years of reading that sort of tripe, those with experience

running 911

> and or General Transports, Paid or Volunteer can do better without

your

> expressed philosophy.

>

> Medics with all sorts of training, experience and job level

achievement have

> and will continue to make ambulance runs that do not require all

the " tools "

> in the ambulance. However, the fact that someone's Grandmother,

> Grandfather, Mother or Father has a professional performing Medic

at their

> bedside when the need arises is important to me and I dare say many

others.

>

> Reconsider you postion statements if you plan to continue a career

in EMS,

> please.

>

> Britton Waldron, EMT-LP

>

>

> RE: City / County Ordinances

>

>

> >

> >

> > Interesting point about privates running code 3. We are required

to do

> > annual EVO training and the privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said

most

> > private employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt it!

Said they

> > are just as good at being MICU. Doubt it!! The body haulers

around these

> > parts generally do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal

EMS

> > experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me when I see

them come

> > into the ER after running RLS from a nursing home. They walk

through the

> > ER proud as a peacock with their chests stuck out just wanting

someone to

> > see them.

> >

> > Larry D.

> >

[Guest guest]

Larry,

In Mr. Capuchino's defense, you should understand the context in which

he made his statement. While I agree that he should not have

generalized his statement for the entire state, he does have a valid

point.

In the Rio Grande Valley (particularly Hidalgo County), there exists a

plethora of ambulance providers. If I'm not mistaken, there is in

upwards of 30 providers. Most EMTs and Paramedics will start at a 911

provider (which all but 1 is private), but move on to a non-emergency

service because of the increase in hourly wage. While there are some

that are exclusive " body-haulers " as you put it, most have worked for

a 911 provider at some point in their careers. Therefore, down here

it makes little if no difference to be a part of a 911 provider.

Regards,

Alfonso R. Ochoa

>

> Interesting point about privates running code 3. We are required to

do annual EVO training and the privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said

most private employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt it!

Said they are just as good at being MICU. Doubt it!! The body haulers

around these parts generally do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very

minimal EMS experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me when I

see them come into the ER after running RLS from a nursing home. They

walk through the ER proud as a peacock with their chests stuck out

just wanting someone to see them.

>

> Larry D.

>

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[Guest guest]

Larry,

In Mr. Capuchino's defense, you should understand the context in which

he made his statement. While I agree that he should not have

generalized his statement for the entire state, he does have a valid

point.

In the Rio Grande Valley (particularly Hidalgo County), there exists a

plethora of ambulance providers. If I'm not mistaken, there is in

upwards of 30 providers. Most EMTs and Paramedics will start at a 911

provider (which all but 1 is private), but move on to a non-emergency

service because of the increase in hourly wage. While there are some

that are exclusive " body-haulers " as you put it, most have worked for

a 911 provider at some point in their careers. Therefore, down here

it makes little if no difference to be a part of a 911 provider.

Regards,

Alfonso R. Ochoa

>

> Interesting point about privates running code 3. We are required to

do annual EVO training and the privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said

most private employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt it!

Said they are just as good at being MICU. Doubt it!! The body haulers

around these parts generally do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very

minimal EMS experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me when I

see them come into the ER after running RLS from a nursing home. They

walk through the ER proud as a peacock with their chests stuck out

just wanting someone to see them.

>

> Larry D.

>

> ___________________________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

Larry,

In Mr. Capuchino's defense, you should understand the context in which

he made his statement. While I agree that he should not have

generalized his statement for the entire state, he does have a valid

point.

In the Rio Grande Valley (particularly Hidalgo County), there exists a

plethora of ambulance providers. If I'm not mistaken, there is in

upwards of 30 providers. Most EMTs and Paramedics will start at a 911

provider (which all but 1 is private), but move on to a non-emergency

service because of the increase in hourly wage. While there are some

that are exclusive " body-haulers " as you put it, most have worked for

a 911 provider at some point in their careers. Therefore, down here

it makes little if no difference to be a part of a 911 provider.

Regards,

Alfonso R. Ochoa

>

> Interesting point about privates running code 3. We are required to

do annual EVO training and the privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said

most private employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt it!

Said they are just as good at being MICU. Doubt it!! The body haulers

around these parts generally do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very

minimal EMS experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me when I

see them come into the ER after running RLS from a nursing home. They

walk through the ER proud as a peacock with their chests stuck out

just wanting someone to see them.

>

> Larry D.

>

> ___________________________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

Larry,

Number one I work for a 911 service and most of the employees who work

here have worked for a transfer service at some point in their career.

I get tired of name calling of fellow EMS people and above all of

patients such as the ones in your e-mail.

No one should feel superior to anyone else because of where they happen

to work since basically we all have the same certification and

ultimately the same job.

Thanks

RE: City / County Ordinances

Interesting point about privates running code 3. We are required to do

annual EVO training and the privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most

private employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt it! Said they

are just as good at being MICU. Doubt it!! The body haulers around these

parts generally do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal EMS

experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me when I see them come

into the ER after running RLS from a nursing home. They walk through the

ER proud as a peacock with their chests stuck out just wanting someone

to see them.

Larry D.

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[Guest guest]

Larry,

Number one I work for a 911 service and most of the employees who work

here have worked for a transfer service at some point in their career.

I get tired of name calling of fellow EMS people and above all of

patients such as the ones in your e-mail.

No one should feel superior to anyone else because of where they happen

to work since basically we all have the same certification and

ultimately the same job.

Thanks

RE: City / County Ordinances

Interesting point about privates running code 3. We are required to do

annual EVO training and the privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most

private employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt it! Said they

are just as good at being MICU. Doubt it!! The body haulers around these

parts generally do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal EMS

experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me when I see them come

into the ER after running RLS from a nursing home. They walk through the

ER proud as a peacock with their chests stuck out just wanting someone

to see them.

Larry D.

___________________________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

Larry,

Number one I work for a 911 service and most of the employees who work

here have worked for a transfer service at some point in their career.

I get tired of name calling of fellow EMS people and above all of

patients such as the ones in your e-mail.

No one should feel superior to anyone else because of where they happen

to work since basically we all have the same certification and

ultimately the same job.

Thanks

RE: City / County Ordinances

Interesting point about privates running code 3. We are required to do

annual EVO training and the privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most

private employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt it! Said they

are just as good at being MICU. Doubt it!! The body haulers around these

parts generally do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal EMS

experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me when I see them come

into the ER after running RLS from a nursing home. They walk through the

ER proud as a peacock with their chests stuck out just wanting someone

to see them.

Larry D.

___________________________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

First of all, I work for a Fire-based EMS system. I work part time

for a hospital based EMS service and have previously worked for a

transfer service. I will be the first to tell you that there are some

differences in the EMTs and paramedics that I have worked with. These

differences are necessarily " bad " ones. Most of the reason is because

the lack of consistent training and continuing education. Having said

that, most of the people that I have worked with have been very good

at what they do. I wouldn't trade the experiences that I have had for

anything. One thing that I can't stand is for an egotistical scumbag,

much as you seem, to spout off pointless information. I normally

would not personally attack anyone on a public listserver, however you

have opened yourself to receive it. You can find many different

people in any work place, not just EMS. It sounds like I would not

want to request an ambulance in land, especially if the EMTs and

paramedics are anything like you seem to be. I aplogize in advance to

everyone else on this listserver, but this was something that I needed

to get off of my chest.

D. Stone

Larry D...Keep your attitude in land. We would not allow it in

Texas.

>

> Interesting point about privates running code 3. We are required to

do annual EVO training and the privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said

most private employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt it!

Said they are just as good at being MICU. Doubt it!! The body haulers

around these parts generally do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very

minimal EMS experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me when I

see them come into the ER after running RLS from a nursing home. They

walk through the ER proud as a peacock with their chests stuck out

just wanting someone to see them.

>

> Larry D.

>

> ___________________________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

First of all, I work for a Fire-based EMS system. I work part time

for a hospital based EMS service and have previously worked for a

transfer service. I will be the first to tell you that there are some

differences in the EMTs and paramedics that I have worked with. These

differences are necessarily " bad " ones. Most of the reason is because

the lack of consistent training and continuing education. Having said

that, most of the people that I have worked with have been very good

at what they do. I wouldn't trade the experiences that I have had for

anything. One thing that I can't stand is for an egotistical scumbag,

much as you seem, to spout off pointless information. I normally

would not personally attack anyone on a public listserver, however you

have opened yourself to receive it. You can find many different

people in any work place, not just EMS. It sounds like I would not

want to request an ambulance in land, especially if the EMTs and

paramedics are anything like you seem to be. I aplogize in advance to

everyone else on this listserver, but this was something that I needed

to get off of my chest.

D. Stone

Larry D...Keep your attitude in land. We would not allow it in

Texas.

>

> Interesting point about privates running code 3. We are required to

do annual EVO training and the privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said

most private employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt it!

Said they are just as good at being MICU. Doubt it!! The body haulers

around these parts generally do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very

minimal EMS experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me when I

see them come into the ER after running RLS from a nursing home. They

walk through the ER proud as a peacock with their chests stuck out

just wanting someone to see them.

>

> Larry D.

>

> ___________________________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

First of all, I work for a Fire-based EMS system. I work part time

for a hospital based EMS service and have previously worked for a

transfer service. I will be the first to tell you that there are some

differences in the EMTs and paramedics that I have worked with. These

differences are necessarily " bad " ones. Most of the reason is because

the lack of consistent training and continuing education. Having said

that, most of the people that I have worked with have been very good

at what they do. I wouldn't trade the experiences that I have had for

anything. One thing that I can't stand is for an egotistical scumbag,

much as you seem, to spout off pointless information. I normally

would not personally attack anyone on a public listserver, however you

have opened yourself to receive it. You can find many different

people in any work place, not just EMS. It sounds like I would not

want to request an ambulance in land, especially if the EMTs and

paramedics are anything like you seem to be. I aplogize in advance to

everyone else on this listserver, but this was something that I needed

to get off of my chest.

D. Stone

Larry D...Keep your attitude in land. We would not allow it in

Texas.

>

> Interesting point about privates running code 3. We are required to

do annual EVO training and the privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said

most private employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt it!

Said they are just as good at being MICU. Doubt it!! The body haulers

around these parts generally do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very

minimal EMS experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me when I

see them come into the ER after running RLS from a nursing home. They

walk through the ER proud as a peacock with their chests stuck out

just wanting someone to see them.

>

> Larry D.

>

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Well said Britton, well said

Lonnie Tarrant LP

EMS Instructor

Northeast TX Community College

Re: City / County Ordinances

Larry,

You are right on some of your statements. However, I find most of your

comments insulting to many of our fellow medics. Your words demonstrate

a

serious lack of understanding and compassion for many of the people that

requires ambulance transportation.

For you to say that " It tickles me when I see them come into the ER

after

running RLS from a nursing home. They walk through the ER proud as a

peacock

with their chests stuck out just wanting someone to see them " , I assure

you

that it is your own self pride that you are tickled about. Feeding your

own

ego due to maybe others recognizing who and what you are. You are a sad

example of a patient advocate.

Most Medics, regardless of 911 or Transport Medic understands that

patient

care and patient consideration is the focus of what we (EMS) does. Your

words define you as an all about you sort of person or maybe you will

understand an egocentric person.

We in EMS have spent many years " eating our own " . We find reasons to

separate Emergency from Non-Emergency as well as Paid from Volunteer.

After

many years of reading that sort of tripe, those with experience running

911

and or General Transports, Paid or Volunteer can do better without your

expressed philosophy.

Medics with all sorts of training, experience and job level achievement

have

and will continue to make ambulance runs that do not require all the

" tools "

in the ambulance. However, the fact that someone's Grandmother,

Grandfather, Mother or Father has a professional performing Medic at

their

bedside when the need arises is important to me and I dare say many

others.

Reconsider you postion statements if you plan to continue a career in

EMS,

please.

Britton Waldron, EMT-LP

RE: City / County Ordinances

>

>

> Interesting point about privates running code 3. We are required to do

> annual EVO training and the privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most

> private employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt it! Said

they

> are just as good at being MICU. Doubt it!! The body haulers around

these

> parts generally do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal EMS

> experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me when I see them

come

> into the ER after running RLS from a nursing home. They walk through

the

> ER proud as a peacock with their chests stuck out just wanting someone

to

> see them.

>

> Larry D.

>

[Guest guest]

Well said Britton, well said

Lonnie Tarrant LP

EMS Instructor

Northeast TX Community College

Re: City / County Ordinances

Larry,

You are right on some of your statements. However, I find most of your

comments insulting to many of our fellow medics. Your words demonstrate

a

serious lack of understanding and compassion for many of the people that

requires ambulance transportation.

For you to say that " It tickles me when I see them come into the ER

after

running RLS from a nursing home. They walk through the ER proud as a

peacock

with their chests stuck out just wanting someone to see them " , I assure

you

that it is your own self pride that you are tickled about. Feeding your

own

ego due to maybe others recognizing who and what you are. You are a sad

example of a patient advocate.

Most Medics, regardless of 911 or Transport Medic understands that

patient

care and patient consideration is the focus of what we (EMS) does. Your

words define you as an all about you sort of person or maybe you will

understand an egocentric person.

We in EMS have spent many years " eating our own " . We find reasons to

separate Emergency from Non-Emergency as well as Paid from Volunteer.

After

many years of reading that sort of tripe, those with experience running

911

and or General Transports, Paid or Volunteer can do better without your

expressed philosophy.

Medics with all sorts of training, experience and job level achievement

have

and will continue to make ambulance runs that do not require all the

" tools "

in the ambulance. However, the fact that someone's Grandmother,

Grandfather, Mother or Father has a professional performing Medic at

their

bedside when the need arises is important to me and I dare say many

others.

Reconsider you postion statements if you plan to continue a career in

EMS,

please.

Britton Waldron, EMT-LP

RE: City / County Ordinances

>

>

> Interesting point about privates running code 3. We are required to do

> annual EVO training and the privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most

> private employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt it! Said

they

> are just as good at being MICU. Doubt it!! The body haulers around

these

> parts generally do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal EMS

> experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me when I see them

come

> into the ER after running RLS from a nursing home. They walk through

the

> ER proud as a peacock with their chests stuck out just wanting someone

to

> see them.

>

> Larry D.

>

[Guest guest]

Well said Britton, well said

Lonnie Tarrant LP

EMS Instructor

Northeast TX Community College

Re: City / County Ordinances

Larry,

You are right on some of your statements. However, I find most of your

comments insulting to many of our fellow medics. Your words demonstrate

a

serious lack of understanding and compassion for many of the people that

requires ambulance transportation.

For you to say that " It tickles me when I see them come into the ER

after

running RLS from a nursing home. They walk through the ER proud as a

peacock

with their chests stuck out just wanting someone to see them " , I assure

you

that it is your own self pride that you are tickled about. Feeding your

own

ego due to maybe others recognizing who and what you are. You are a sad

example of a patient advocate.

Most Medics, regardless of 911 or Transport Medic understands that

patient

care and patient consideration is the focus of what we (EMS) does. Your

words define you as an all about you sort of person or maybe you will

understand an egocentric person.

We in EMS have spent many years " eating our own " . We find reasons to

separate Emergency from Non-Emergency as well as Paid from Volunteer.

After

many years of reading that sort of tripe, those with experience running

911

and or General Transports, Paid or Volunteer can do better without your

expressed philosophy.

Medics with all sorts of training, experience and job level achievement

have

and will continue to make ambulance runs that do not require all the

" tools "

in the ambulance. However, the fact that someone's Grandmother,

Grandfather, Mother or Father has a professional performing Medic at

their

bedside when the need arises is important to me and I dare say many

others.

Reconsider you postion statements if you plan to continue a career in

EMS,

please.

Britton Waldron, EMT-LP

RE: City / County Ordinances

>

>

> Interesting point about privates running code 3. We are required to do

> annual EVO training and the privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most

> private employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt it! Said

they

> are just as good at being MICU. Doubt it!! The body haulers around

these

> parts generally do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal EMS

> experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me when I see them

come

> into the ER after running RLS from a nursing home. They walk through

the

> ER proud as a peacock with their chests stuck out just wanting someone

to

> see them.

>

> Larry D.

>

[Guest guest]

Proud as a peacock because a private can do just as

good if not better than a 911. This does not apply

everywhere. But at this point and time in Texas most

911 are complaining about the Transfer companies

responding 911. In the RGV for example one 911

provider can't seem to realize that the other 150

units out on the road have better chances of coming up

to an MVC than their 15 units. Thus they take up our

reps time with their whining. Now here I do not think

we have the problem they have in Goliad where they

claim that transfer companies respond code 3 just to

make up for time. I have yet to see that here. Most

medics here in the RGV have worked for a 911 company

before and are experienced. The 911 companies just

can't match the current pay rates of the transfer

companies. And now the state wants to change the

license wording to reflect the type of provider you

are. This to benefit the 911. As one TRAC member

told me, " It will guarantee money to the 911

providers. " But that means more workload. And no 911

provider can guarantee putting out more trucks to

match the workload. They all want to do more with

what little they have. This in turn is going to hurt

the patient.

Salvador Capuchino Jr

EMT-Paramedic

--- " lwd7734@... " wrote:

>

>

> Interesting point about privates running code 3. We

> are required to do annual EVO training and the

> privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most private

> employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt

> it! Said they are just as good at being MICU. Doubt

> it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal EMS

> experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me

> when I see them come into the ER after running RLS

> from a nursing home. They walk through the ER proud

> as a peacock with their chests stuck out just

> wanting someone to see them.

>

> Larry D.

>

>

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Proud as a peacock because a private can do just as

good if not better than a 911. This does not apply

everywhere. But at this point and time in Texas most

911 are complaining about the Transfer companies

responding 911. In the RGV for example one 911

provider can't seem to realize that the other 150

units out on the road have better chances of coming up

to an MVC than their 15 units. Thus they take up our

reps time with their whining. Now here I do not think

we have the problem they have in Goliad where they

claim that transfer companies respond code 3 just to

make up for time. I have yet to see that here. Most

medics here in the RGV have worked for a 911 company

before and are experienced. The 911 companies just

can't match the current pay rates of the transfer

companies. And now the state wants to change the

license wording to reflect the type of provider you

are. This to benefit the 911. As one TRAC member

told me, " It will guarantee money to the 911

providers. " But that means more workload. And no 911

provider can guarantee putting out more trucks to

match the workload. They all want to do more with

what little they have. This in turn is going to hurt

the patient.

Salvador Capuchino Jr

EMT-Paramedic

--- " lwd7734@... " wrote:

>

>

> Interesting point about privates running code 3. We

> are required to do annual EVO training and the

> privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most private

> employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt

> it! Said they are just as good at being MICU. Doubt

> it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal EMS

> experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me

> when I see them come into the ER after running RLS

> from a nursing home. They walk through the ER proud

> as a peacock with their chests stuck out just

> wanting someone to see them.

>

> Larry D.

>

>

___________________________________________________________________

> Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand.

> Now includes pop-up blocker!

> Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to

> sign up today!

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Proud as a peacock because a private can do just as

good if not better than a 911. This does not apply

everywhere. But at this point and time in Texas most

911 are complaining about the Transfer companies

responding 911. In the RGV for example one 911

provider can't seem to realize that the other 150

units out on the road have better chances of coming up

to an MVC than their 15 units. Thus they take up our

reps time with their whining. Now here I do not think

we have the problem they have in Goliad where they

claim that transfer companies respond code 3 just to

make up for time. I have yet to see that here. Most

medics here in the RGV have worked for a 911 company

before and are experienced. The 911 companies just

can't match the current pay rates of the transfer

companies. And now the state wants to change the

license wording to reflect the type of provider you

are. This to benefit the 911. As one TRAC member

told me, " It will guarantee money to the 911

providers. " But that means more workload. And no 911

provider can guarantee putting out more trucks to

match the workload. They all want to do more with

what little they have. This in turn is going to hurt

the patient.

Salvador Capuchino Jr

EMT-Paramedic

--- " lwd7734@... " wrote:

>

>

> Interesting point about privates running code 3. We

> are required to do annual EVO training and the

> privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most private

> employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt

> it! Said they are just as good at being MICU. Doubt

> it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal EMS

> experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me

> when I see them come into the ER after running RLS

> from a nursing home. They walk through the ER proud

> as a peacock with their chests stuck out just

> wanting someone to see them.

>

> Larry D.

>

>

___________________________________________________________________

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>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I will add that most transfer services have very well trained EMS

professionals, most of them more then the 911 providers. I have worked

in both private transfer company and a city 911 service. You know the

funny part of it is most of the employees at the city service came from

and currently were working for a private transfer service. So before

anyone should say that " most private employee used to work for 911

ambo's first. Doubt it! Said they are just as good at being MICU. Doubt

it!! The body haulers around these parts generally do the wrinkled butt

shuff and have very minimal EMS experience since they don't run 911. " I

think you need to think before you speak. How do you think a private

service can pay more then a city run service, transfers make the money

in this business. I suggest you think before you post a message about

private companies and transfer services.

PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

Operation Manager

Brownwood Texas

________________________________

From: salvador capuchino

Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:01 PM

To:

Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

Proud as a peacock because a private can do just as

good if not better than a 911. This does not apply

everywhere. But at this point and time in Texas most

911 are complaining about the Transfer companies

responding 911. In the RGV for example one 911

provider can't seem to realize that the other 150

units out on the road have better chances of coming up

to an MVC than their 15 units. Thus they take up our

reps time with their whining. Now here I do not think

we have the problem they have in Goliad where they

claim that transfer companies respond code 3 just to

make up for time. I have yet to see that here. Most

medics here in the RGV have worked for a 911 company

before and are experienced. The 911 companies just

can't match the current pay rates of the transfer

companies. And now the state wants to change the

license wording to reflect the type of provider you

are. This to benefit the 911. As one TRAC member

told me, " It will guarantee money to the 911

providers. " But that means more workload. And no 911

provider can guarantee putting out more trucks to

match the workload. They all want to do more with

what little they have. This in turn is going to hurt

the patient.

Salvador Capuchino Jr

EMT-Paramedic

--- " lwd7734@... " wrote:

>

>

> Interesting point about privates running code 3. We

> are required to do annual EVO training and the

> privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most private

> employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt

> it! Said they are just as good at being MICU. Doubt

> it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal EMS

> experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me

> when I see them come into the ER after running RLS

> from a nursing home. They walk through the ER proud

> as a peacock with their chests stuck out just

> wanting someone to see them.

>

> Larry D.

>

>

___________________________________________________________________

> Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand.

> Now includes pop-up blocker!

> Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to

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>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I will add that most transfer services have very well trained EMS

professionals, most of them more then the 911 providers. I have worked

in both private transfer company and a city 911 service. You know the

funny part of it is most of the employees at the city service came from

and currently were working for a private transfer service. So before

anyone should say that " most private employee used to work for 911

ambo's first. Doubt it! Said they are just as good at being MICU. Doubt

it!! The body haulers around these parts generally do the wrinkled butt

shuff and have very minimal EMS experience since they don't run 911. " I

think you need to think before you speak. How do you think a private

service can pay more then a city run service, transfers make the money

in this business. I suggest you think before you post a message about

private companies and transfer services.

PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

Operation Manager

Brownwood Texas

________________________________

From: salvador capuchino

Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:01 PM

To:

Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

Proud as a peacock because a private can do just as

good if not better than a 911. This does not apply

everywhere. But at this point and time in Texas most

911 are complaining about the Transfer companies

responding 911. In the RGV for example one 911

provider can't seem to realize that the other 150

units out on the road have better chances of coming up

to an MVC than their 15 units. Thus they take up our

reps time with their whining. Now here I do not think

we have the problem they have in Goliad where they

claim that transfer companies respond code 3 just to

make up for time. I have yet to see that here. Most

medics here in the RGV have worked for a 911 company

before and are experienced. The 911 companies just

can't match the current pay rates of the transfer

companies. And now the state wants to change the

license wording to reflect the type of provider you

are. This to benefit the 911. As one TRAC member

told me, " It will guarantee money to the 911

providers. " But that means more workload. And no 911

provider can guarantee putting out more trucks to

match the workload. They all want to do more with

what little they have. This in turn is going to hurt

the patient.

Salvador Capuchino Jr

EMT-Paramedic

--- " lwd7734@... " wrote:

>

>

> Interesting point about privates running code 3. We

> are required to do annual EVO training and the

> privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most private

> employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt

> it! Said they are just as good at being MICU. Doubt

> it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal EMS

> experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me

> when I see them come into the ER after running RLS

> from a nursing home. They walk through the ER proud

> as a peacock with their chests stuck out just

> wanting someone to see them.

>

> Larry D.

>

>

___________________________________________________________________

> Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand.

> Now includes pop-up blocker!

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>

>

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