RE: City / County Ordinances

April 1, 2005

I will add that most transfer services have very well trained EMS

professionals, most of them more then the 911 providers. I have worked

in both private transfer company and a city 911 service. You know the

funny part of it is most of the employees at the city service came from

and currently were working for a private transfer service. So before

anyone should say that " most private employee used to work for 911

ambo's first. Doubt it! Said they are just as good at being MICU. Doubt

it!! The body haulers around these parts generally do the wrinkled butt

shuff and have very minimal EMS experience since they don't run 911. " I

think you need to think before you speak. How do you think a private

service can pay more then a city run service, transfers make the money

in this business. I suggest you think before you post a message about

private companies and transfer services.

PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

Operation Manager

Brownwood Texas

________________________________

From: salvador capuchino

Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:01 PM

To:

Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

Proud as a peacock because a private can do just as

good if not better than a 911. This does not apply

everywhere. But at this point and time in Texas most

911 are complaining about the Transfer companies

responding 911. In the RGV for example one 911

provider can't seem to realize that the other 150

units out on the road have better chances of coming up

to an MVC than their 15 units. Thus they take up our

reps time with their whining. Now here I do not think

we have the problem they have in Goliad where they

claim that transfer companies respond code 3 just to

make up for time. I have yet to see that here. Most

medics here in the RGV have worked for a 911 company

before and are experienced. The 911 companies just

can't match the current pay rates of the transfer

companies. And now the state wants to change the

license wording to reflect the type of provider you

are. This to benefit the 911. As one TRAC member

told me, " It will guarantee money to the 911

providers. " But that means more workload. And no 911

provider can guarantee putting out more trucks to

match the workload. They all want to do more with

what little they have. This in turn is going to hurt

the patient.

Salvador Capuchino Jr

EMT-Paramedic

--- " lwd7734@... " wrote:

>

> Interesting point about privates running code 3. We

> are required to do annual EVO training and the

> privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most private

> employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt

> it! Said they are just as good at being MICU. Doubt

> it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal EMS

> experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me

> when I see them come into the ER after running RLS

> from a nursing home. They walk through the ER proud

> as a peacock with their chests stuck out just

> wanting someone to see them.

>

> Larry D.

>

___________________________________________________________________

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>

April 1, 2005

Also to add this, I pray that you can see the error

of your statements and make a blanket apology. If you

had spent any time in the business,you would not make

an uneducated statement like the one which was posted.

--- PJ Tinsley wrote:

>

> I will add that most transfer services have very

> well trained EMS

> professionals, most of them more then the 911

> providers. I have worked

> in both private transfer company and a city 911

> service. You know the

> funny part of it is most of the employees at the

> city service came from

> and currently were working for a private transfer

> service. So before

> anyone should say that " most private employee used

> to work for 911

> ambo's first. Doubt it! Said they are just as good

> at being MICU. Doubt

> it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> do the wrinkled butt

> shuff and have very minimal EMS experience since

> they don't run 911. " I

> think you need to think before you speak. How do

> you think a private

> service can pay more then a city run service,

> transfers make the money

> in this business. I suggest you think before you

> post a message about

> private companies and transfer services.

>

> PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

>

> Operation Manager

>

> Brownwood Texas

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: salvador capuchino

>

> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:01 PM

> To:

> Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

>

> Proud as a peacock because a private can do just as

> good if not better than a 911. This does not apply

> everywhere. But at this point and time in Texas

> most

> 911 are complaining about the Transfer companies

> responding 911. In the RGV for example one 911

> provider can't seem to realize that the other 150

> units out on the road have better chances of coming

> up

> to an MVC than their 15 units. Thus they take up

> our

> reps time with their whining. Now here I do not

> think

> we have the problem they have in Goliad where they

> claim that transfer companies respond code 3 just to

> make up for time. I have yet to see that here.

> Most

> medics here in the RGV have worked for a 911 company

> before and are experienced. The 911 companies just

> can't match the current pay rates of the transfer

> companies. And now the state wants to change the

> license wording to reflect the type of provider you

> are. This to benefit the 911. As one TRAC member

> told me, " It will guarantee money to the 911

> providers. " But that means more workload. And no

> 911

> provider can guarantee putting out more trucks to

> match the workload. They all want to do more with

> what little they have. This in turn is going to

> hurt

> the patient.

> Salvador Capuchino Jr

> EMT-Paramedic

> --- " lwd7734@... " wrote:

> >

> > Interesting point about privates running code 3.

> We

> > are required to do annual EVO training and the

> > privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most private

> > employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt

> > it! Said they are just as good at being MICU.

> Doubt

> > it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> > do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal

> EMS

> > experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me

> > when I see them come into the ER after running RLS

> > from a nursing home. They walk through the ER

> proud

> > as a peacock with their chests stuck out just

> > wanting someone to see them.

> >

> > Larry D.

> >

>

___________________________________________________________________

> > Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand.

> > Now includes pop-up blocker!

> > Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf

> to

> > sign up today!

> >

April 1, 2005

Also to add this, I pray that you can see the error

of your statements and make a blanket apology. If you

had spent any time in the business,you would not make

an uneducated statement like the one which was posted.

--- PJ Tinsley wrote:

>

> I will add that most transfer services have very

> well trained EMS

> professionals, most of them more then the 911

> providers. I have worked

> in both private transfer company and a city 911

> service. You know the

> funny part of it is most of the employees at the

> city service came from

> and currently were working for a private transfer

> service. So before

> anyone should say that " most private employee used

> to work for 911

> ambo's first. Doubt it! Said they are just as good

> at being MICU. Doubt

> it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> do the wrinkled butt

> shuff and have very minimal EMS experience since

> they don't run 911. " I

> think you need to think before you speak. How do

> you think a private

> service can pay more then a city run service,

> transfers make the money

> in this business. I suggest you think before you

> post a message about

> private companies and transfer services.

>

> PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

>

> Operation Manager

>

> Brownwood Texas

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: salvador capuchino

>

> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:01 PM

> To:

> Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

>

> Proud as a peacock because a private can do just as

> good if not better than a 911. This does not apply

> everywhere. But at this point and time in Texas

> most

> 911 are complaining about the Transfer companies

> responding 911. In the RGV for example one 911

> provider can't seem to realize that the other 150

> units out on the road have better chances of coming

> up

> to an MVC than their 15 units. Thus they take up

> our

> reps time with their whining. Now here I do not

> think

> we have the problem they have in Goliad where they

> claim that transfer companies respond code 3 just to

> make up for time. I have yet to see that here.

> Most

> medics here in the RGV have worked for a 911 company

> before and are experienced. The 911 companies just

> can't match the current pay rates of the transfer

> companies. And now the state wants to change the

> license wording to reflect the type of provider you

> are. This to benefit the 911. As one TRAC member

> told me, " It will guarantee money to the 911

> providers. " But that means more workload. And no

> 911

> provider can guarantee putting out more trucks to

> match the workload. They all want to do more with

> what little they have. This in turn is going to

> hurt

> the patient.

> Salvador Capuchino Jr

> EMT-Paramedic

> --- " lwd7734@... " wrote:

> >

> > Interesting point about privates running code 3.

> We

> > are required to do annual EVO training and the

> > privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most private

> > employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt

> > it! Said they are just as good at being MICU.

> Doubt

> > it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> > do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal

> EMS

> > experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me

> > when I see them come into the ER after running RLS

> > from a nursing home. They walk through the ER

> proud

> > as a peacock with their chests stuck out just

> > wanting someone to see them.

> >

> > Larry D.

> >

>

___________________________________________________________________

> > Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand.

> > Now includes pop-up blocker!

> > Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf

> to

> > sign up today!

> >

April 1, 2005

What error do you see that quote was from a previous post

PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

Operation Manager

Brownwood Texas

Office

Fax

Cell

________________________________

From: Wayne Edgin

Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:28 PM

To:

Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

Also to add this, I pray that you can see the error

of your statements and make a blanket apology. If you

had spent any time in the business,you would not make

an uneducated statement like the one which was posted.

--- PJ Tinsley wrote:

>

> I will add that most transfer services have very

> well trained EMS

> professionals, most of them more then the 911

> providers. I have worked

> in both private transfer company and a city 911

> service. You know the

> funny part of it is most of the employees at the

> city service came from

> and currently were working for a private transfer

> service. So before

> anyone should say that " most private employee used

> to work for 911

> ambo's first. Doubt it! Said they are just as good

> at being MICU. Doubt

> it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> do the wrinkled butt

> shuff and have very minimal EMS experience since

> they don't run 911. " I

> think you need to think before you speak. How do

> you think a private

> service can pay more then a city run service,

> transfers make the money

> in this business. I suggest you think before you

> post a message about

> private companies and transfer services.

>

> PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

>

> Operation Manager

>

> Brownwood Texas

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: salvador capuchino

>

> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:01 PM

> To:

> Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

>

> Proud as a peacock because a private can do just as

> good if not better than a 911. This does not apply

> everywhere. But at this point and time in Texas

> most

> 911 are complaining about the Transfer companies

> responding 911. In the RGV for example one 911

> provider can't seem to realize that the other 150

> units out on the road have better chances of coming

> up

> to an MVC than their 15 units. Thus they take up

> our

> reps time with their whining. Now here I do not

> think

> we have the problem they have in Goliad where they

> claim that transfer companies respond code 3 just to

> make up for time. I have yet to see that here.

> Most

> medics here in the RGV have worked for a 911 company

> before and are experienced. The 911 companies just

> can't match the current pay rates of the transfer

> companies. And now the state wants to change the

> license wording to reflect the type of provider you

> are. This to benefit the 911. As one TRAC member

> told me, " It will guarantee money to the 911

> providers. " But that means more workload. And no

> 911

> provider can guarantee putting out more trucks to

> match the workload. They all want to do more with

> what little they have. This in turn is going to

> hurt

> the patient.

> Salvador Capuchino Jr

> EMT-Paramedic

> --- " lwd7734@... " wrote:

> >

> > Interesting point about privates running code 3.

> We

> > are required to do annual EVO training and the

> > privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most private

> > employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt

> > it! Said they are just as good at being MICU.

> Doubt

> > it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> > do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal

> EMS

> > experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me

> > when I see them come into the ER after running RLS

> > from a nursing home. They walk through the ER

> proud

> > as a peacock with their chests stuck out just

> > wanting someone to see them.

> >

> > Larry D.

> >

>

___________________________________________________________________

> > Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand.

> > Now includes pop-up blocker!

> > Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf

> to

> > sign up today!

> >

April 1, 2005

What error do you see that quote was from a previous post

PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

Operation Manager

Brownwood Texas

Office

Fax

Cell

________________________________

From: Wayne Edgin

Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:28 PM

To:

Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

Also to add this, I pray that you can see the error

of your statements and make a blanket apology. If you

had spent any time in the business,you would not make

an uneducated statement like the one which was posted.

--- PJ Tinsley wrote:

>

> I will add that most transfer services have very

> well trained EMS

> professionals, most of them more then the 911

> providers. I have worked

> in both private transfer company and a city 911

> service. You know the

> funny part of it is most of the employees at the

> city service came from

> and currently were working for a private transfer

> service. So before

> anyone should say that " most private employee used

> to work for 911

> ambo's first. Doubt it! Said they are just as good

> at being MICU. Doubt

> it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> do the wrinkled butt

> shuff and have very minimal EMS experience since

> they don't run 911. " I

> think you need to think before you speak. How do

> you think a private

> service can pay more then a city run service,

> transfers make the money

> in this business. I suggest you think before you

> post a message about

> private companies and transfer services.

>

> PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

>

> Operation Manager

>

> Brownwood Texas

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: salvador capuchino

>

> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:01 PM

> To:

> Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

>

> Proud as a peacock because a private can do just as

> good if not better than a 911. This does not apply

> everywhere. But at this point and time in Texas

> most

> 911 are complaining about the Transfer companies

> responding 911. In the RGV for example one 911

> provider can't seem to realize that the other 150

> units out on the road have better chances of coming

> up

> to an MVC than their 15 units. Thus they take up

> our

> reps time with their whining. Now here I do not

> think

> we have the problem they have in Goliad where they

> claim that transfer companies respond code 3 just to

> make up for time. I have yet to see that here.

> Most

> medics here in the RGV have worked for a 911 company

> before and are experienced. The 911 companies just

> can't match the current pay rates of the transfer

> companies. And now the state wants to change the

> license wording to reflect the type of provider you

> are. This to benefit the 911. As one TRAC member

> told me, " It will guarantee money to the 911

> providers. " But that means more workload. And no

> 911

> provider can guarantee putting out more trucks to

> match the workload. They all want to do more with

> what little they have. This in turn is going to

> hurt

> the patient.

> Salvador Capuchino Jr

> EMT-Paramedic

> --- " lwd7734@... " wrote:

> >

> > Interesting point about privates running code 3.

> We

> > are required to do annual EVO training and the

> > privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most private

> > employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt

> > it! Said they are just as good at being MICU.

> Doubt

> > it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> > do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal

> EMS

> > experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me

> > when I see them come into the ER after running RLS

> > from a nursing home. They walk through the ER

> proud

> > as a peacock with their chests stuck out just

> > wanting someone to see them.

> >

> > Larry D.

> >

>

___________________________________________________________________

> > Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand.

> > Now includes pop-up blocker!

> > Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf

> to

> > sign up today!

> >

April 1, 2005

What error do you see that quote was from a previous post

PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

Operation Manager

Brownwood Texas

Office

Fax

Cell

________________________________

From: Wayne Edgin

Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:28 PM

To:

Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

Also to add this, I pray that you can see the error

of your statements and make a blanket apology. If you

had spent any time in the business,you would not make

an uneducated statement like the one which was posted.

--- PJ Tinsley wrote:

>

> I will add that most transfer services have very

> well trained EMS

> professionals, most of them more then the 911

> providers. I have worked

> in both private transfer company and a city 911

> service. You know the

> funny part of it is most of the employees at the

> city service came from

> and currently were working for a private transfer

> service. So before

> anyone should say that " most private employee used

> to work for 911

> ambo's first. Doubt it! Said they are just as good

> at being MICU. Doubt

> it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> do the wrinkled butt

> shuff and have very minimal EMS experience since

> they don't run 911. " I

> think you need to think before you speak. How do

> you think a private

> service can pay more then a city run service,

> transfers make the money

> in this business. I suggest you think before you

> post a message about

> private companies and transfer services.

>

> PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

>

> Operation Manager

>

> Brownwood Texas

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: salvador capuchino

>

> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:01 PM

> To:

> Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

>

> Proud as a peacock because a private can do just as

> good if not better than a 911. This does not apply

> everywhere. But at this point and time in Texas

> most

> 911 are complaining about the Transfer companies

> responding 911. In the RGV for example one 911

> provider can't seem to realize that the other 150

> units out on the road have better chances of coming

> up

> to an MVC than their 15 units. Thus they take up

> our

> reps time with their whining. Now here I do not

> think

> we have the problem they have in Goliad where they

> claim that transfer companies respond code 3 just to

> make up for time. I have yet to see that here.

> Most

> medics here in the RGV have worked for a 911 company

> before and are experienced. The 911 companies just

> can't match the current pay rates of the transfer

> companies. And now the state wants to change the

> license wording to reflect the type of provider you

> are. This to benefit the 911. As one TRAC member

> told me, " It will guarantee money to the 911

> providers. " But that means more workload. And no

> 911

> provider can guarantee putting out more trucks to

> match the workload. They all want to do more with

> what little they have. This in turn is going to

> hurt

> the patient.

> Salvador Capuchino Jr

> EMT-Paramedic

> --- " lwd7734@... " wrote:

> >

> > Interesting point about privates running code 3.

> We

> > are required to do annual EVO training and the

> > privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most private

> > employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt

> > it! Said they are just as good at being MICU.

> Doubt

> > it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> > do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal

> EMS

> > experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me

> > when I see them come into the ER after running RLS

> > from a nursing home. They walk through the ER

> proud

> > as a peacock with their chests stuck out just

> > wanting someone to see them.

> >

> > Larry D.

> >

>

___________________________________________________________________

> > Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand.

> > Now includes pop-up blocker!

> > Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf

> to

> > sign up today!

> >

April 1, 2005

The last statement should have been; I suggest you think before you post

a message about private companies and 911 services. Sorry

PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

Operation Manager

Brownwood Texas

Office

Fax

Cell

________________________________

From: PJ Tinsley

Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:29 PM

To:

Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

What error do you see that quote was from a previous post

PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

Operation Manager

Brownwood Texas

Office

Fax

Cell

________________________________

From: Wayne Edgin

Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:28 PM

To:

Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

Also to add this, I pray that you can see the error

of your statements and make a blanket apology. If you

had spent any time in the business,you would not make

an uneducated statement like the one which was posted.

--- PJ Tinsley wrote:

>

> I will add that most transfer services have very

> well trained EMS

> professionals, most of them more then the 911

> providers. I have worked

> in both private transfer company and a city 911

> service. You know the

> funny part of it is most of the employees at the

> city service came from

> and currently were working for a private transfer

> service. So before

> anyone should say that " most private employee used

> to work for 911

> ambo's first. Doubt it! Said they are just as good

> at being MICU. Doubt

> it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> do the wrinkled butt

> shuff and have very minimal EMS experience since

> they don't run 911. " I

> think you need to think before you speak. How do

> you think a private

> service can pay more then a city run service,

> transfers make the money

> in this business. I suggest you think before you

> post a message about

> private companies and transfer services.

>

> PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

>

> Operation Manager

>

> Brownwood Texas

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: salvador capuchino

>

> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:01 PM

> To:

> Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

>

> Proud as a peacock because a private can do just as

> good if not better than a 911. This does not apply

> everywhere. But at this point and time in Texas

> most

> 911 are complaining about the Transfer companies

> responding 911. In the RGV for example one 911

> provider can't seem to realize that the other 150

> units out on the road have better chances of coming

> up

> to an MVC than their 15 units. Thus they take up

> our

> reps time with their whining. Now here I do not

> think

> we have the problem they have in Goliad where they

> claim that transfer companies respond code 3 just to

> make up for time. I have yet to see that here.

> Most

> medics here in the RGV have worked for a 911 company

> before and are experienced. The 911 companies just

> can't match the current pay rates of the transfer

> companies. And now the state wants to change the

> license wording to reflect the type of provider you

> are. This to benefit the 911. As one TRAC member

> told me, " It will guarantee money to the 911

> providers. " But that means more workload. And no

> 911

> provider can guarantee putting out more trucks to

> match the workload. They all want to do more with

> what little they have. This in turn is going to

> hurt

> the patient.

> Salvador Capuchino Jr

> EMT-Paramedic

> --- " lwd7734@... " wrote:

> >

> > Interesting point about privates running code 3.

> We

> > are required to do annual EVO training and the

> > privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most private

> > employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt

> > it! Said they are just as good at being MICU.

> Doubt

> > it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> > do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal

> EMS

> > experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me

> > when I see them come into the ER after running RLS

> > from a nursing home. They walk through the ER

> proud

> > as a peacock with their chests stuck out just

> > wanting someone to see them.

> >

> > Larry D.

> >

>

___________________________________________________________________

> > Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand.

> > Now includes pop-up blocker!

> > Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf

> to

> > sign up today!

> >

April 1, 2005

The last statement should have been; I suggest you think before you post

a message about private companies and 911 services. Sorry

PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

Operation Manager

Brownwood Texas

Office

Fax

Cell

________________________________

From: PJ Tinsley

Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:29 PM

To:

Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

What error do you see that quote was from a previous post

PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

Operation Manager

Brownwood Texas

Office

Fax

Cell

________________________________

From: Wayne Edgin

Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:28 PM

To:

Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

Also to add this, I pray that you can see the error

of your statements and make a blanket apology. If you

had spent any time in the business,you would not make

an uneducated statement like the one which was posted.

--- PJ Tinsley wrote:

>

> I will add that most transfer services have very

> well trained EMS

> professionals, most of them more then the 911

> providers. I have worked

> in both private transfer company and a city 911

> service. You know the

> funny part of it is most of the employees at the

> city service came from

> and currently were working for a private transfer

> service. So before

> anyone should say that " most private employee used

> to work for 911

> ambo's first. Doubt it! Said they are just as good

> at being MICU. Doubt

> it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> do the wrinkled butt

> shuff and have very minimal EMS experience since

> they don't run 911. " I

> think you need to think before you speak. How do

> you think a private

> service can pay more then a city run service,

> transfers make the money

> in this business. I suggest you think before you

> post a message about

> private companies and transfer services.

>

> PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

>

> Operation Manager

>

> Brownwood Texas

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: salvador capuchino

>

> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:01 PM

> To:

> Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

>

> Proud as a peacock because a private can do just as

> good if not better than a 911. This does not apply

> everywhere. But at this point and time in Texas

> most

> 911 are complaining about the Transfer companies

> responding 911. In the RGV for example one 911

> provider can't seem to realize that the other 150

> units out on the road have better chances of coming

> up

> to an MVC than their 15 units. Thus they take up

> our

> reps time with their whining. Now here I do not

> think

> we have the problem they have in Goliad where they

> claim that transfer companies respond code 3 just to

> make up for time. I have yet to see that here.

> Most

> medics here in the RGV have worked for a 911 company

> before and are experienced. The 911 companies just

> can't match the current pay rates of the transfer

> companies. And now the state wants to change the

> license wording to reflect the type of provider you

> are. This to benefit the 911. As one TRAC member

> told me, " It will guarantee money to the 911

> providers. " But that means more workload. And no

> 911

> provider can guarantee putting out more trucks to

> match the workload. They all want to do more with

> what little they have. This in turn is going to

> hurt

> the patient.

> Salvador Capuchino Jr

> EMT-Paramedic

> --- " lwd7734@... " wrote:

> >

> > Interesting point about privates running code 3.

> We

> > are required to do annual EVO training and the

> > privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most private

> > employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt

> > it! Said they are just as good at being MICU.

> Doubt

> > it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> > do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal

> EMS

> > experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me

> > when I see them come into the ER after running RLS

> > from a nursing home. They walk through the ER

> proud

> > as a peacock with their chests stuck out just

> > wanting someone to see them.

> >

> > Larry D.

> >

>

___________________________________________________________________

> > Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand.

> > Now includes pop-up blocker!

> > Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf

> to

> > sign up today!

> >

April 1, 2005

The last statement should have been; I suggest you think before you post

a message about private companies and 911 services. Sorry

PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

Operation Manager

Brownwood Texas

Office

Fax

Cell

________________________________

From: PJ Tinsley

Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:29 PM

To:

Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

What error do you see that quote was from a previous post

PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

Operation Manager

Brownwood Texas

Office

Fax

Cell

________________________________

From: Wayne Edgin

Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:28 PM

To:

Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

Also to add this, I pray that you can see the error

of your statements and make a blanket apology. If you

had spent any time in the business,you would not make

an uneducated statement like the one which was posted.

--- PJ Tinsley wrote:

>

> I will add that most transfer services have very

> well trained EMS

> professionals, most of them more then the 911

> providers. I have worked

> in both private transfer company and a city 911

> service. You know the

> funny part of it is most of the employees at the

> city service came from

> and currently were working for a private transfer

> service. So before

> anyone should say that " most private employee used

> to work for 911

> ambo's first. Doubt it! Said they are just as good

> at being MICU. Doubt

> it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> do the wrinkled butt

> shuff and have very minimal EMS experience since

> they don't run 911. " I

> think you need to think before you speak. How do

> you think a private

> service can pay more then a city run service,

> transfers make the money

> in this business. I suggest you think before you

> post a message about

> private companies and transfer services.

>

> PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

>

> Operation Manager

>

> Brownwood Texas

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: salvador capuchino

>

> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:01 PM

> To:

> Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

>

> Proud as a peacock because a private can do just as

> good if not better than a 911. This does not apply

> everywhere. But at this point and time in Texas

> most

> 911 are complaining about the Transfer companies

> responding 911. In the RGV for example one 911

> provider can't seem to realize that the other 150

> units out on the road have better chances of coming

> up

> to an MVC than their 15 units. Thus they take up

> our

> reps time with their whining. Now here I do not

> think

> we have the problem they have in Goliad where they

> claim that transfer companies respond code 3 just to

> make up for time. I have yet to see that here.

> Most

> medics here in the RGV have worked for a 911 company

> before and are experienced. The 911 companies just

> can't match the current pay rates of the transfer

> companies. And now the state wants to change the

> license wording to reflect the type of provider you

> are. This to benefit the 911. As one TRAC member

> told me, " It will guarantee money to the 911

> providers. " But that means more workload. And no

> 911

> provider can guarantee putting out more trucks to

> match the workload. They all want to do more with

> what little they have. This in turn is going to

> hurt

> the patient.

> Salvador Capuchino Jr

> EMT-Paramedic

> --- " lwd7734@... " wrote:

> >

> > Interesting point about privates running code 3.

> We

> > are required to do annual EVO training and the

> > privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most private

> > employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt

> > it! Said they are just as good at being MICU.

> Doubt

> > it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> > do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal

> EMS

> > experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me

> > when I see them come into the ER after running RLS

> > from a nursing home. They walk through the ER

> proud

> > as a peacock with their chests stuck out just

> > wanting someone to see them.

> >

> > Larry D.

> >

>

___________________________________________________________________

> > Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand.

> > Now includes pop-up blocker!

> > Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf

> to

> > sign up today!

> >

April 1, 2005

Not you P.J., Yankee Boy from land.

--- PJ Tinsley wrote:

> What error do you see that quote was from a previous

> post

>

> PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

>

> Operation Manager

>

> Brownwood Texas

>

> Office

>

> Fax

>

> Cell

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: Wayne Edgin

> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:28 PM

> To:

> Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

>

> Also to add this, I pray that you can see the error

> of your statements and make a blanket apology. If

> you

> had spent any time in the business,you would not

> make

> an uneducated statement like the one which was

> posted.

> --- PJ Tinsley wrote:

>

> >

> > I will add that most transfer services have very

> > well trained EMS

> > professionals, most of them more then the 911

> > providers. I have worked

> > in both private transfer company and a city 911

> > service. You know the

> > funny part of it is most of the employees at the

> > city service came from

> > and currently were working for a private transfer

> > service. So before

> > anyone should say that " most private employee used

> > to work for 911

> > ambo's first. Doubt it! Said they are just as good

> > at being MICU. Doubt

> > it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> > do the wrinkled butt

> > shuff and have very minimal EMS experience since

> > they don't run 911. " I

> > think you need to think before you speak. How do

> > you think a private

> > service can pay more then a city run service,

> > transfers make the money

> > in this business. I suggest you think before you

> > post a message about

> > private companies and transfer services.

> >

> > PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

> >

> > Operation Manager

> >

> > Brownwood Texas

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > From: salvador capuchino

> >

> > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:01 PM

> > To:

> > Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

> >

> > Proud as a peacock because a private can do just

> as

> > good if not better than a 911. This does not

> apply

> > everywhere. But at this point and time in Texas

> > most

> > 911 are complaining about the Transfer companies

> > responding 911. In the RGV for example one 911

> > provider can't seem to realize that the other 150

> > units out on the road have better chances of

> coming

> > up

> > to an MVC than their 15 units. Thus they take up

> > our

> > reps time with their whining. Now here I do not

> > think

> > we have the problem they have in Goliad where they

> > claim that transfer companies respond code 3 just

> to

> > make up for time. I have yet to see that here.

> > Most

> > medics here in the RGV have worked for a 911

> company

> > before and are experienced. The 911 companies

> just

> > can't match the current pay rates of the transfer

> > companies. And now the state wants to change the

> > license wording to reflect the type of provider

> you

> > are. This to benefit the 911. As one TRAC member

> > told me, " It will guarantee money to the 911

> > providers. " But that means more workload. And no

> > 911

> > provider can guarantee putting out more trucks to

> > match the workload. They all want to do more with

> > what little they have. This in turn is going to

> > hurt

> > the patient.

> > Salvador Capuchino Jr

> > EMT-Paramedic

> > --- " lwd7734@... " wrote:

> > >

> > > Interesting point about privates running code 3.

> > We

> > > are required to do annual EVO training and the

> > > privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most private

> > > employee used to work for 911 ambo's first.

> Doubt

> > > it! Said they are just as good at being MICU.

> > Doubt

> > > it!! The body haulers around these parts

> generally

> > > do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal

> > EMS

> > > experience since they don't run 911. It tickles

> me

> > > when I see them come into the ER after running

> RLS

> > > from a nursing home. They walk through the ER

> > proud

> > > as a peacock with their chests stuck out just

> > > wanting someone to see them.

> > >

> > > Larry D.

> > >

> >

>

___________________________________________________________________

> > > Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand.

> > > Now includes pop-up blocker!

> > > Only $14.95/month -visit

> http://www.juno.com/surf

> > to

> > > sign up today!

> > >

April 1, 2005

Not you P.J., Yankee Boy from land.

--- PJ Tinsley wrote:

> What error do you see that quote was from a previous

> post

>

> PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

>

> Operation Manager

>

> Brownwood Texas

>

> Office

>

> Fax

>

> Cell

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: Wayne Edgin

> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:28 PM

> To:

> Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

>

> Also to add this, I pray that you can see the error

> of your statements and make a blanket apology. If

> you

> had spent any time in the business,you would not

> make

> an uneducated statement like the one which was

> posted.

> --- PJ Tinsley wrote:

>

> >

> > I will add that most transfer services have very

> > well trained EMS

> > professionals, most of them more then the 911

> > providers. I have worked

> > in both private transfer company and a city 911

> > service. You know the

> > funny part of it is most of the employees at the

> > city service came from

> > and currently were working for a private transfer

> > service. So before

> > anyone should say that " most private employee used

> > to work for 911

> > ambo's first. Doubt it! Said they are just as good

> > at being MICU. Doubt

> > it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> > do the wrinkled butt

> > shuff and have very minimal EMS experience since

> > they don't run 911. " I

> > think you need to think before you speak. How do

> > you think a private

> > service can pay more then a city run service,

> > transfers make the money

> > in this business. I suggest you think before you

> > post a message about

> > private companies and transfer services.

> >

> > PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

> >

> > Operation Manager

> >

> > Brownwood Texas

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > From: salvador capuchino

> >

> > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:01 PM

> > To:

> > Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

> >

> > Proud as a peacock because a private can do just

> as

> > good if not better than a 911. This does not

> apply

> > everywhere. But at this point and time in Texas

> > most

> > 911 are complaining about the Transfer companies

> > responding 911. In the RGV for example one 911

> > provider can't seem to realize that the other 150

> > units out on the road have better chances of

> coming

> > up

> > to an MVC than their 15 units. Thus they take up

> > our

> > reps time with their whining. Now here I do not

> > think

> > we have the problem they have in Goliad where they

> > claim that transfer companies respond code 3 just

> to

> > make up for time. I have yet to see that here.

> > Most

> > medics here in the RGV have worked for a 911

> company

> > before and are experienced. The 911 companies

> just

> > can't match the current pay rates of the transfer

> > companies. And now the state wants to change the

> > license wording to reflect the type of provider

> you

> > are. This to benefit the 911. As one TRAC member

> > told me, " It will guarantee money to the 911

> > providers. " But that means more workload. And no

> > 911

> > provider can guarantee putting out more trucks to

> > match the workload. They all want to do more with

> > what little they have. This in turn is going to

> > hurt

> > the patient.

> > Salvador Capuchino Jr

> > EMT-Paramedic

> > --- " lwd7734@... " wrote:

> > >

> > > Interesting point about privates running code 3.

> > We

> > > are required to do annual EVO training and the

> > > privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most private

> > > employee used to work for 911 ambo's first.

> Doubt

> > > it! Said they are just as good at being MICU.

> > Doubt

> > > it!! The body haulers around these parts

> generally

> > > do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal

> > EMS

> > > experience since they don't run 911. It tickles

> me

> > > when I see them come into the ER after running

> RLS

> > > from a nursing home. They walk through the ER

> > proud

> > > as a peacock with their chests stuck out just

> > > wanting someone to see them.

> > >

> > > Larry D.

> > >

> >

>

___________________________________________________________________

> > > Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand.

> > > Now includes pop-up blocker!

> > > Only $14.95/month -visit

> http://www.juno.com/surf

> > to

> > > sign up today!

> > >

April 1, 2005

Not you P.J., Yankee Boy from land.

--- PJ Tinsley wrote:

> What error do you see that quote was from a previous

> post

>

> PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

>

> Operation Manager

>

> Brownwood Texas

>

> Office

>

> Fax

>

> Cell

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: Wayne Edgin

> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:28 PM

> To:

> Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

>

> Also to add this, I pray that you can see the error

> of your statements and make a blanket apology. If

> you

> had spent any time in the business,you would not

> make

> an uneducated statement like the one which was

> posted.

> --- PJ Tinsley wrote:

>

> >

> > I will add that most transfer services have very

> > well trained EMS

> > professionals, most of them more then the 911

> > providers. I have worked

> > in both private transfer company and a city 911

> > service. You know the

> > funny part of it is most of the employees at the

> > city service came from

> > and currently were working for a private transfer

> > service. So before

> > anyone should say that " most private employee used

> > to work for 911

> > ambo's first. Doubt it! Said they are just as good

> > at being MICU. Doubt

> > it!! The body haulers around these parts generally

> > do the wrinkled butt

> > shuff and have very minimal EMS experience since

> > they don't run 911. " I

> > think you need to think before you speak. How do

> > you think a private

> > service can pay more then a city run service,

> > transfers make the money

> > in this business. I suggest you think before you

> > post a message about

> > private companies and transfer services.

> >

> > PJ Tinsley EMT-P, CCEMT-P

> >

> > Operation Manager

> >

> > Brownwood Texas

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > From: salvador capuchino

> >

> > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:01 PM

> > To:

> > Subject: RE: City / County Ordinances

> >

> > Proud as a peacock because a private can do just

> as

> > good if not better than a 911. This does not

> apply

> > everywhere. But at this point and time in Texas

> > most

> > 911 are complaining about the Transfer companies

> > responding 911. In the RGV for example one 911

> > provider can't seem to realize that the other 150

> > units out on the road have better chances of

> coming

> > up

> > to an MVC than their 15 units. Thus they take up

> > our

> > reps time with their whining. Now here I do not

> > think

> > we have the problem they have in Goliad where they

> > claim that transfer companies respond code 3 just

> to

> > make up for time. I have yet to see that here.

> > Most

> > medics here in the RGV have worked for a 911

> company

> > before and are experienced. The 911 companies

> just

> > can't match the current pay rates of the transfer

> > companies. And now the state wants to change the

> > license wording to reflect the type of provider

> you

> > are. This to benefit the 911. As one TRAC member

> > told me, " It will guarantee money to the 911

> > providers. " But that means more workload. And no

> > 911

> > provider can guarantee putting out more trucks to

> > match the workload. They all want to do more with

> > what little they have. This in turn is going to

> > hurt

> > the patient.

> > Salvador Capuchino Jr

> > EMT-Paramedic

> > --- " lwd7734@... " wrote:

> > >

> > > Interesting point about privates running code 3.

> > We

> > > are required to do annual EVO training and the

> > > privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most private

> > > employee used to work for 911 ambo's first.

> Doubt

> > > it! Said they are just as good at being MICU.

> > Doubt

> > > it!! The body haulers around these parts

> generally

> > > do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal

> > EMS

> > > experience since they don't run 911. It tickles

> me

> > > when I see them come into the ER after running

> RLS

> > > from a nursing home. They walk through the ER

> > proud

> > > as a peacock with their chests stuck out just

> > > wanting someone to see them.

> > >

> > > Larry D.

> > >

> >

>

___________________________________________________________________

> > > Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand.

> > > Now includes pop-up blocker!

> > > Only $14.95/month -visit

> http://www.juno.com/surf

> > to

> > > sign up today!

> > >

April 1, 2005

Comments inline...

Mike

> If a service is abusing the

> lights and sirens portion of the Emergency Vehicle Code, it is easily

> check. The Law Enforcement agency can follow the vehicle.

Most do not have the resources to do this, especially when the vehicles

cross jurisdictional boundaries.

> If it is

> taking a patient back to the SNF, obviously that is not an emergency,

To a non-medical police officer this is NOT obvious. Most police don't

know thing ONE about EMS, much less patient assessment.

> cite them, if the patient is going to a routine out patient clinic or

> straight to a ward, that too is not an emergency. I don't have

There's NO good way for the police to know this... not the routine

patrol officer. An investigator maybe... someone who could look things

up after the fact. But, with HIPAA, this gets somewhat more

complicated because EMS services and hospitals are more reluctant to

provide information without subpoenas and a note from the patient's

mother...

> Let's face it, if a private ambulance has a serious

> accident where people are injuried or killed, you think the media is

> going to make sure the public knows it was a private. It will show

> your

> areas 911 provider and state the local EMS did this and that something

> needs to be done.

That's not what happened when Curtis was killed in Houston. I remember

that very vividly... a small mention was made, but 99% of the

story/stories were about the PARAMEDIC killed while in the back of an

ambulance... and the status of the patient.

> Again, the biggest issue I see is running hot when it isn't warranted

> and not utilizing the assetts available to the fullest.

I agree with this completely. In fact, my POLICE department has very,

very strict rules on the use of emergency equipment. Granted, we've

got a lot of leeway (and the law gives us as police much wider latitude

with respect to operating our vehicles, emergency lights, etc.)... but

my particular department sets forth very detailed guidelines with

respect to my use of emergency equipment, my driving responsibilities

and my absolute requirement for due regard to public safety. I run hot

very, very little - and I'm accountable each time I do. I don't WORRY

about it - I just make sure that I can justify what I do.

It's kind of like a saying Dr. Racht has - " You can do /anything/

*once*. " Point being - you might do it a second, third or fourth time

if you can justify doing it the first time - just be ready to justify

why you did what you did and make sure it was reasonable, prudent, and

relatively (to the situation) safe.

> This is my opinion and after being in this line of business (Fire and

> EMS) from rookie to manager for 27 years, I think I know what I'm

> talking about.

I think you do too - I think you're just viewing the situation more

narrowly than may be prudent. It's a big state, and most assuredly a

big problem - but the solution that works in one place probably won't

work everywhere.

Mike

April 4, 2005

In a message dated 4/4/2005 9:50:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

silsbeeems@... writes:

The interesting thing is that 90 % of all those people had pt care first and

the bad ones were only there for a pay check and personal glory. In closing

I applaud all of you.

Are you saying you know Medics in the business for the MONEY! I find that

hard to believe unless they truly have no ambition or idea what one cam make

doing just about anything else! LOL

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

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(Cell Phone)

(IFW Fax)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the

author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or

organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless

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stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials

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April 4, 2005

Just could not keep my mouth shut. I have worked both private and municipal 911

and transfer service. I have found many good medics in private service, many

good medics in municipal service, a few good medics on flight service especially

in this area of south east Texas. But I have also seen many bad medics in all of

those service.. I think I have seen the most good medics in volunteer services.

The interesting thing is that 90 % of all those people had pt care first and the

bad ones were only there for a pay check and personal glory. In closing I

applaud all of you.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

RE: City / County Ordinances

Interesting point about privates running code 3. We are required to do

annual EVO training and the privates aren't. Mr. Capachino said most

private employee used to work for 911 ambo's first. Doubt it! Said they

are just as good at being MICU. Doubt it!! The body haulers around these

parts generally do the wrinkled butt shuff and have very minimal EMS

experience since they don't run 911. It tickles me when I see them come

into the ER after running RLS from a nursing home. They walk through the

ER proud as a peacock with their chests stuck out just wanting someone

to see them.

Larry D.

___________________________________________________________________

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