Guest guest Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Very well said and very true Alana!!! Thanks, Jo. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Very well said and very true Alana!!! Thanks, Jo. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Hi lharvey180, I think the key here is the desire to " get this under control " . Whatever " this " really is (weight, eating habits, emotions, etc) likely doesn't need to be controlled. I might just need to simmer with you while you literally sit with it, until you see what it boils down to. Sitting meditation really helps. It puts you in the middle of the craving. I would go from there. I of course don't mean to advise you to let things loose and keep consuming junk. There might be a reason why you are doing it that you are just not aware of yet. I would look in this group's links and also on amazon for books that could help. Best of luck > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Hi lharvey180, I think the key here is the desire to " get this under control " . Whatever " this " really is (weight, eating habits, emotions, etc) likely doesn't need to be controlled. I might just need to simmer with you while you literally sit with it, until you see what it boils down to. Sitting meditation really helps. It puts you in the middle of the craving. I would go from there. I of course don't mean to advise you to let things loose and keep consuming junk. There might be a reason why you are doing it that you are just not aware of yet. I would look in this group's links and also on amazon for books that could help. Best of luck > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Hi lharvey180, I think the key here is the desire to " get this under control " . Whatever " this " really is (weight, eating habits, emotions, etc) likely doesn't need to be controlled. I might just need to simmer with you while you literally sit with it, until you see what it boils down to. Sitting meditation really helps. It puts you in the middle of the craving. I would go from there. I of course don't mean to advise you to let things loose and keep consuming junk. There might be a reason why you are doing it that you are just not aware of yet. I would look in this group's links and also on amazon for books that could help. Best of luck > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Hi there, I totally relate and have definitely been where you are right now. The more you fight your reality, the worse it gets. Try taking a deep breath and face reality as it is. You are where you are. Accept that and don't fight it. By accepting it doesn't mean that you don't want to change it, but you realize and recognize that this is what it is. This acceptance really helps you be more present. Don't think about the future or the past. Take a few deep breaths and just be and literally take it one moment at a time. I'm reading a wonderful book that is truly helping me stay more present and enjoy my life much more: " The Power of Now " . I highly recommend it. Hope this helps! Mali > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Hi there, I totally relate and have definitely been where you are right now. The more you fight your reality, the worse it gets. Try taking a deep breath and face reality as it is. You are where you are. Accept that and don't fight it. By accepting it doesn't mean that you don't want to change it, but you realize and recognize that this is what it is. This acceptance really helps you be more present. Don't think about the future or the past. Take a few deep breaths and just be and literally take it one moment at a time. I'm reading a wonderful book that is truly helping me stay more present and enjoy my life much more: " The Power of Now " . I highly recommend it. Hope this helps! Mali > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Hi there, I totally relate and have definitely been where you are right now. The more you fight your reality, the worse it gets. Try taking a deep breath and face reality as it is. You are where you are. Accept that and don't fight it. By accepting it doesn't mean that you don't want to change it, but you realize and recognize that this is what it is. This acceptance really helps you be more present. Don't think about the future or the past. Take a few deep breaths and just be and literally take it one moment at a time. I'm reading a wonderful book that is truly helping me stay more present and enjoy my life much more: " The Power of Now " . I highly recommend it. Hope this helps! Mali > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 hey, I love THAT book. It's been a long time since I read it. I even had a book study going with it. The gary zukav book Heart of the Soul is also a very good one for learning to accept what is & for leaning to accept our feelings as they come up. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 hey, I love THAT book. It's been a long time since I read it. I even had a book study going with it. The gary zukav book Heart of the Soul is also a very good one for learning to accept what is & for leaning to accept our feelings as they come up. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Aww, gee, mj, thanks! You made my day! I've always had a secret desire to write a great novel, so it makes me feel great when someone likes my writing. >) I'm hopeful about working with the therapist. I'm only one session in, but it was a good session and I like her a lot. She's having me do e-mail " homework " every couple of days and I just sent it off a few minutes ago. I figure I've got nothing to lose and everything to gain by giving it a try. Let us know if you take the leap and find it useful. And thanks again for the compliment. I'm still smiling. LOL Josie > > josie, > > You are such a great writer. I just love reading your posts ( & blog) because you generally are expressing my thinking better than I ever could. I have been thinking of seeing an IE therapist, too, not that I think I NEED her because I think I am doing really well with it. I took a couple of her evening workshops & she was so " together " about IE - having done it for over 20 years & WOW, was she gorgeous looking (like a natural, slim woman with tons of energy & great personality). > when I was doing OA, we used to say " find someone that has what you want, ask them how they did it & do what they did to get it. " So, now I am thinking that this therapist HAS what I want & all I have to do to find out how to get it is have a few sessions with her & attend a few evening courses. I'm going to make an appointment TODAY. Thanks for the inspiration because I have been " thinking " about doing this since LAST SEPT. > > mj > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Aww, gee, mj, thanks! You made my day! I've always had a secret desire to write a great novel, so it makes me feel great when someone likes my writing. >) I'm hopeful about working with the therapist. I'm only one session in, but it was a good session and I like her a lot. She's having me do e-mail " homework " every couple of days and I just sent it off a few minutes ago. I figure I've got nothing to lose and everything to gain by giving it a try. Let us know if you take the leap and find it useful. And thanks again for the compliment. I'm still smiling. LOL Josie > > josie, > > You are such a great writer. I just love reading your posts ( & blog) because you generally are expressing my thinking better than I ever could. I have been thinking of seeing an IE therapist, too, not that I think I NEED her because I think I am doing really well with it. I took a couple of her evening workshops & she was so " together " about IE - having done it for over 20 years & WOW, was she gorgeous looking (like a natural, slim woman with tons of energy & great personality). > when I was doing OA, we used to say " find someone that has what you want, ask them how they did it & do what they did to get it. " So, now I am thinking that this therapist HAS what I want & all I have to do to find out how to get it is have a few sessions with her & attend a few evening courses. I'm going to make an appointment TODAY. Thanks for the inspiration because I have been " thinking " about doing this since LAST SEPT. > > mj > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Aww, gee, mj, thanks! You made my day! I've always had a secret desire to write a great novel, so it makes me feel great when someone likes my writing. >) I'm hopeful about working with the therapist. I'm only one session in, but it was a good session and I like her a lot. She's having me do e-mail " homework " every couple of days and I just sent it off a few minutes ago. I figure I've got nothing to lose and everything to gain by giving it a try. Let us know if you take the leap and find it useful. And thanks again for the compliment. I'm still smiling. LOL Josie > > josie, > > You are such a great writer. I just love reading your posts ( & blog) because you generally are expressing my thinking better than I ever could. I have been thinking of seeing an IE therapist, too, not that I think I NEED her because I think I am doing really well with it. I took a couple of her evening workshops & she was so " together " about IE - having done it for over 20 years & WOW, was she gorgeous looking (like a natural, slim woman with tons of energy & great personality). > when I was doing OA, we used to say " find someone that has what you want, ask them how they did it & do what they did to get it. " So, now I am thinking that this therapist HAS what I want & all I have to do to find out how to get it is have a few sessions with her & attend a few evening courses. I'm going to make an appointment TODAY. Thanks for the inspiration because I have been " thinking " about doing this since LAST SEPT. > > mj > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 > > Don't be afraid of weight gain. Embrace it. Learn to love yourself in this journey and where you are right now. Wow, that's a scary statement. I might be able to get comfortable with where I am now if I thought I'd maintain at this weight, but *embrace the weight gain*? Argh!!!!!! Not sure I can do that one. If I did that, think it wouldn't be long before they'd need a crane to get me out of my house. You're a much braver person than I am if you were able to do that. Josie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 > > Don't be afraid of weight gain. Embrace it. Learn to love yourself in this journey and where you are right now. Wow, that's a scary statement. I might be able to get comfortable with where I am now if I thought I'd maintain at this weight, but *embrace the weight gain*? Argh!!!!!! Not sure I can do that one. If I did that, think it wouldn't be long before they'd need a crane to get me out of my house. You're a much braver person than I am if you were able to do that. Josie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Hello Sorry if I repeat anything already posted. When we start to IE we have to let go of weight issues. Which can be extremely hard to do, weigh gain may occur as we travel through the healing process presented by IE. Having the courage to allow weigh gain means taking a deep breath & accepting that it may happen. In theory, health matters not stopping, weight loss & a natural body weight should resume. If you return to calories then you will indeed tie yourself tighter into a diet mind trap, which is what your trying to move away from. Your also looking at food as good or bad, try to see it as simply food. It is the thoughts you have about the food which are good or bad. As you have allowed IE into your life your mind will wish to take pleasure from what it has been denied or told was off limits, like a child in a sweet shop. If you say no, it will rebel & make you unhappy. Your fears at present stem from being stuck between the new way & the old way, have faith that eating what you are is part of the process. Believe me you will tire of such foods because of habituation, just allow the process to take place. You can use each & every occasion to be mindful, eat till your full & enjoy what your eating, in time you will find that your body demands more variety. Let go of the reigns some more. Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Pam, I just love how you explained this. It really helps me to read it stated that simply. And what you wrote seems to be so true for me. I just love this way of eating/life & I can't ever imagine even thinking of dieting again. My memories of the 'diet trap' are very painful ones & I just don't ever want to have to revisit them. Thanks for posting, mj > > Hello > > Sorry if I repeat anything already posted. > > When we start to IE we have to let go of weight issues. Which can be > extremely hard to do, weigh gain may occur as we travel through the > healing process presented by IE. Having the courage to allow weigh gain > means taking a deep breath & accepting that it may happen. In theory, > health matters not stopping, weight loss & a natural body weight should > resume. > > If you return to calories then you will indeed tie yourself tighter into > a diet mind trap, which is what your trying to move away from. > > Your also looking at food as good or bad, try to see it as simply food. > It is the thoughts you have about the food which are good or bad. > > As you have allowed IE into your life your mind will wish to take > pleasure from what it has been denied or told was off limits, like a > child in a sweet shop. If you say no, it will rebel & make you unhappy. > Your fears at present stem from being stuck between the new way & the > old way, have faith that eating what you are is part of the process. > Believe me you will tire of such foods because of habituation, just > allow the process to take place. > > You can use each & every occasion to be mindful, eat till your full & > enjoy what your eating, in time you will find that your body demands > more variety. > > Let go of the reigns some more. > > Pam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Pam, I just love how you explained this. It really helps me to read it stated that simply. And what you wrote seems to be so true for me. I just love this way of eating/life & I can't ever imagine even thinking of dieting again. My memories of the 'diet trap' are very painful ones & I just don't ever want to have to revisit them. Thanks for posting, mj > > Hello > > Sorry if I repeat anything already posted. > > When we start to IE we have to let go of weight issues. Which can be > extremely hard to do, weigh gain may occur as we travel through the > healing process presented by IE. Having the courage to allow weigh gain > means taking a deep breath & accepting that it may happen. In theory, > health matters not stopping, weight loss & a natural body weight should > resume. > > If you return to calories then you will indeed tie yourself tighter into > a diet mind trap, which is what your trying to move away from. > > Your also looking at food as good or bad, try to see it as simply food. > It is the thoughts you have about the food which are good or bad. > > As you have allowed IE into your life your mind will wish to take > pleasure from what it has been denied or told was off limits, like a > child in a sweet shop. If you say no, it will rebel & make you unhappy. > Your fears at present stem from being stuck between the new way & the > old way, have faith that eating what you are is part of the process. > Believe me you will tire of such foods because of habituation, just > allow the process to take place. > > You can use each & every occasion to be mindful, eat till your full & > enjoy what your eating, in time you will find that your body demands > more variety. > > Let go of the reigns some more. > > Pam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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