Re: Sugar/Flour Addict and IE

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Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerrySender: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:38:45 -0000To: <IntuitiveEating_Support >ReplyTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: Sugar/Flour Addict and IE If you are having problems with " cravings " then something else is going on. It is ok to crave foods. And it is ok to allow yourself to have what you are craving. But if that craving is controlling you then there must be something emotional going on. Get really quiet within yourself. Do some deep breathing. Relax your mind. Get really still. And ask yourself, what is going on? What are you feeling? Try to pinpoint exactly what is going on within you to cause these uncontrollable cravings. Sit with the feelings for a bit. Don't be afraid of the uncomfortableness of being still, quiet and with your feelings. Just be. Then see if after you do this if you feel differently. Do you still want what you were craving? If so, have some of it. But be totally mindful while you having that food. Be aware of what your mind and your body feel like and say to you. And remember, be patient with yourself. It has taken years to set our habits around food. And sometimes it takes years to undo the habits. It isn't going to happen over night. Be kind and and loving to yourself. Pay attention to what your are telling yourself. Are you beating yourself up for having these cravings? You aren't bad for having the cravings. And,sometimes it helps to work with a professional coach or therapist to get to the bottom of what is " eating " you.Hope this helps.Alana>> > > > But > f you instead, tell yourself you can a piece of candy when you feel hungry, > hen you stop the deprivation/eat/guilt cycle.> > ~~~~~~~~~> I am haivng huge problems with eating only when I am hungry. When the huge cravings come on it's rarely ever due to hunger. Telling myself I can have it when I'm hungry does nothing to stop the total singelminded craving as much as I wish it would. I'm hoping I can someday accomplish eating only when I'm hungry instead of designated times, then I can work on telling the candy it can wait until I'm hungry...when I can do it with regular food.> > > Sunny> > > > > >

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Ditto for me on not weighing, and mj. Being down in weight freaks me out just as much, if not more, than having gained weight. Basically, dieting screwed me up so badly that I can make any weight something to freak out about, LOL.

Love your description, mj, of how weighing less first made you cocky and then made you depressed. What a world! Been there myself!

Laurie

Re: Sugar/Flour Addict and IE

Hi ,

I'm with you on the not weighing. I have a 2 year physical coming up in April, the last time my doc weighed me I was the heaviest I've ever been. I'm down now but I plan to have them weigh me backward & NOT tell me what I weigh. That is the plan.

mj

>

> Thanks for the book recommendations, Josie. I wrote down some new

> titles. I have a little stack in my room on my bookshelf, and will

> slowly tackle the different books.

>

> I read Overcoming Overeating and When Women Stop Hating Their

> Bodies. Tried to fill my shelves with ice cream and cheeses and

> foods that were "off limits", and ended up with bad heartburn and

> felt gross. So I realized that for me it wasn't a very good plan!!!

>

> Sheryl Canter's Normal Eating for Normal Weight is good. All Geneen

> Roth's books are wonderful. Sondra Ray has a new agey affirmation

> type book called The Only Diet There is. I really loved the book

> It's Not About Food...which was very balanced. And thanks to

> whomever suggested nne on's Course in Weight Loss...I

> purchased that recently and hope to work through all 21 lessons...it

> certainly doesn't hurt!!!

>

> Most IE people do seem to acknowledge that healthy food is more

> healing and feels better in the long run. The past few weeks I've

> been super-busy at work, not eating at home, and grabbing on the go.

> My body feels more heavy (not in weight, in energy) after a diet of

> fast food burritos, pizza, egg mcmuffins in the morning, more coffee,

> etc. Instead of JUDGING myself, though, I'm just observing. I also

> know that I successfully did not weigh myself from June to late

> October, then got on the scales at a friend's house and saw that I

> was down 15 lbs...freaked out, and that's been part of the problem.

> Got cocky...then allowed that weight to haunt me because it was still

> too high, and should it have been lower. Now I know how the scale

> affects me. WOW...so plan to not weigh myself...and the year starts

> in October. Unless I'm at the doctor's office and need to for a

> procedure or something.

>

> Thanks all!

>

>

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Ditto for me on not weighing, and mj. Being down in weight freaks me out just as much, if not more, than having gained weight. Basically, dieting screwed me up so badly that I can make any weight something to freak out about, LOL.

Love your description, mj, of how weighing less first made you cocky and then made you depressed. What a world! Been there myself!

Laurie

Re: Sugar/Flour Addict and IE

Hi ,

I'm with you on the not weighing. I have a 2 year physical coming up in April, the last time my doc weighed me I was the heaviest I've ever been. I'm down now but I plan to have them weigh me backward & NOT tell me what I weigh. That is the plan.

mj

>

> Thanks for the book recommendations, Josie. I wrote down some new

> titles. I have a little stack in my room on my bookshelf, and will

> slowly tackle the different books.

>

> I read Overcoming Overeating and When Women Stop Hating Their

> Bodies. Tried to fill my shelves with ice cream and cheeses and

> foods that were "off limits", and ended up with bad heartburn and

> felt gross. So I realized that for me it wasn't a very good plan!!!

>

> Sheryl Canter's Normal Eating for Normal Weight is good. All Geneen

> Roth's books are wonderful. Sondra Ray has a new agey affirmation

> type book called The Only Diet There is. I really loved the book

> It's Not About Food...which was very balanced. And thanks to

> whomever suggested nne on's Course in Weight Loss...I

> purchased that recently and hope to work through all 21 lessons...it

> certainly doesn't hurt!!!

>

> Most IE people do seem to acknowledge that healthy food is more

> healing and feels better in the long run. The past few weeks I've

> been super-busy at work, not eating at home, and grabbing on the go.

> My body feels more heavy (not in weight, in energy) after a diet of

> fast food burritos, pizza, egg mcmuffins in the morning, more coffee,

> etc. Instead of JUDGING myself, though, I'm just observing. I also

> know that I successfully did not weigh myself from June to late

> October, then got on the scales at a friend's house and saw that I

> was down 15 lbs...freaked out, and that's been part of the problem.

> Got cocky...then allowed that weight to haunt me because it was still

> too high, and should it have been lower. Now I know how the scale

> affects me. WOW...so plan to not weigh myself...and the year starts

> in October. Unless I'm at the doctor's office and need to for a

> procedure or something.

>

> Thanks all!

>

>

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Ditto for me on not weighing, and mj. Being down in weight freaks me out just as much, if not more, than having gained weight. Basically, dieting screwed me up so badly that I can make any weight something to freak out about, LOL.

Love your description, mj, of how weighing less first made you cocky and then made you depressed. What a world! Been there myself!

Laurie

Re: Sugar/Flour Addict and IE

Hi ,

I'm with you on the not weighing. I have a 2 year physical coming up in April, the last time my doc weighed me I was the heaviest I've ever been. I'm down now but I plan to have them weigh me backward & NOT tell me what I weigh. That is the plan.

mj

>

> Thanks for the book recommendations, Josie. I wrote down some new

> titles. I have a little stack in my room on my bookshelf, and will

> slowly tackle the different books.

>

> I read Overcoming Overeating and When Women Stop Hating Their

> Bodies. Tried to fill my shelves with ice cream and cheeses and

> foods that were "off limits", and ended up with bad heartburn and

> felt gross. So I realized that for me it wasn't a very good plan!!!

>

> Sheryl Canter's Normal Eating for Normal Weight is good. All Geneen

> Roth's books are wonderful. Sondra Ray has a new agey affirmation

> type book called The Only Diet There is. I really loved the book

> It's Not About Food...which was very balanced. And thanks to

> whomever suggested nne on's Course in Weight Loss...I

> purchased that recently and hope to work through all 21 lessons...it

> certainly doesn't hurt!!!

>

> Most IE people do seem to acknowledge that healthy food is more

> healing and feels better in the long run. The past few weeks I've

> been super-busy at work, not eating at home, and grabbing on the go.

> My body feels more heavy (not in weight, in energy) after a diet of

> fast food burritos, pizza, egg mcmuffins in the morning, more coffee,

> etc. Instead of JUDGING myself, though, I'm just observing. I also

> know that I successfully did not weigh myself from June to late

> October, then got on the scales at a friend's house and saw that I

> was down 15 lbs...freaked out, and that's been part of the problem.

> Got cocky...then allowed that weight to haunt me because it was still

> too high, and should it have been lower. Now I know how the scale

> affects me. WOW...so plan to not weigh myself...and the year starts

> in October. Unless I'm at the doctor's office and need to for a

> procedure or something.

>

> Thanks all!

>

>

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Hi Sunny,

Yes, Geneen does say that she does not believe everyone that is overweight is an

emotional eater and I do believe that's true, as well.

I would say though, from personal experience, that it might be worthwhile to

read some of her stuff to be sure it doesn't apply to you. I first heard of

Geneen ages ago and also dismissed her because I didn't think that I was an

emotional eater. Just thought I *really* liked food. It wasn't until she was

everywhere earlier this year and I saw her on Oprah that I actually started

reading some of her stuff. WFG was a revelation to me. Now I realize that

emotional eating is probably what I do most of the time! Don't know if I was

just more open to the message now than I had been in the past or if WFG was

written in a way that finally sunk in. But it's been really helpful to me to

finally understand what's behind my actions, even if I'm not completely

successful in controlling it just yet.

Just my $0.02.

Josie

> >>

> >

> >> So Now my question is, what's the best book anyone recommends for learning

> >> and getting into IE. I came here through a different route. I was

> >> looking for an active support group for McKenna's I can make you thin

> >> program. I spent the money to join his " club " and guess what? The forums

don't

> >> work. Well, the tapes I got were worth the money but I was looking for an

> >> active support group. I stumbled on this one and I'm really glad I did.

> >> Now I think I need to expand into what IE is and see what I can learn. I

> >> sure need a more realistic relationship with food.

> >>

> >> Best!

> >>

> >> Sunny

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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Hi Sunny,

Yes, Geneen does say that she does not believe everyone that is overweight is an

emotional eater and I do believe that's true, as well.

I would say though, from personal experience, that it might be worthwhile to

read some of her stuff to be sure it doesn't apply to you. I first heard of

Geneen ages ago and also dismissed her because I didn't think that I was an

emotional eater. Just thought I *really* liked food. It wasn't until she was

everywhere earlier this year and I saw her on Oprah that I actually started

reading some of her stuff. WFG was a revelation to me. Now I realize that

emotional eating is probably what I do most of the time! Don't know if I was

just more open to the message now than I had been in the past or if WFG was

written in a way that finally sunk in. But it's been really helpful to me to

finally understand what's behind my actions, even if I'm not completely

successful in controlling it just yet.

Just my $0.02.

Josie

> >>

> >

> >> So Now my question is, what's the best book anyone recommends for learning

> >> and getting into IE. I came here through a different route. I was

> >> looking for an active support group for McKenna's I can make you thin

> >> program. I spent the money to join his " club " and guess what? The forums

don't

> >> work. Well, the tapes I got were worth the money but I was looking for an

> >> active support group. I stumbled on this one and I'm really glad I did.

> >> Now I think I need to expand into what IE is and see what I can learn. I

> >> sure need a more realistic relationship with food.

> >>

> >> Best!

> >>

> >> Sunny

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Sunny,

Yes, Geneen does say that she does not believe everyone that is overweight is an

emotional eater and I do believe that's true, as well.

I would say though, from personal experience, that it might be worthwhile to

read some of her stuff to be sure it doesn't apply to you. I first heard of

Geneen ages ago and also dismissed her because I didn't think that I was an

emotional eater. Just thought I *really* liked food. It wasn't until she was

everywhere earlier this year and I saw her on Oprah that I actually started

reading some of her stuff. WFG was a revelation to me. Now I realize that

emotional eating is probably what I do most of the time! Don't know if I was

just more open to the message now than I had been in the past or if WFG was

written in a way that finally sunk in. But it's been really helpful to me to

finally understand what's behind my actions, even if I'm not completely

successful in controlling it just yet.

Just my $0.02.

Josie

> >>

> >

> >> So Now my question is, what's the best book anyone recommends for learning

> >> and getting into IE. I came here through a different route. I was

> >> looking for an active support group for McKenna's I can make you thin

> >> program. I spent the money to join his " club " and guess what? The forums

don't

> >> work. Well, the tapes I got were worth the money but I was looking for an

> >> active support group. I stumbled on this one and I'm really glad I did.

> >> Now I think I need to expand into what IE is and see what I can learn. I

> >> sure need a more realistic relationship with food.

> >>

> >> Best!

> >>

> >> Sunny

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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josie,

I agree with you. My experience was that I loved the ideas in Geneen's earlier

books but couldn't figure out how to apply them for myself. So I guess I needed

a few more diets (or a dozen LOL). After seeing her on Oprah I knew I HAD to

rush out & buy the book. By that time I had been involved with this IE_support

board & had taken a couple of one evening workshops with an IE coach. So, I was

READY to hear Geneen's message & TAKE IT IN. Of course I'm an over the top kind

of gal so I not only have WFG but about 7 or 8 other IE books now & I read &

practice from them all. For me, I can't imagine ever actually going back to

dieting. My mind still sometimes likes to think about dieting when the " voice "

(I call her Mildread) is telling me that I am getting fat again (which isn't

true). I'm really learning to challenge those darn lies that " Mildread " wants

to trick me into believing. I like to win so watch out " Millie " because you will

be getting a swift kick in the butt next time.

Isn't it fun to finally get a handle on the " voice " ?

mj

> > >>

> > >

> > >> So Now my question is, what's the best book anyone recommends for

learning

> > >> and getting into IE. I came here through a different route. I was

> > >> looking for an active support group for McKenna's I can make you

thin

> > >> program. I spent the money to join his " club " and guess what? The

forums don't

> > >> work. Well, the tapes I got were worth the money but I was looking for

an

> > >> active support group. I stumbled on this one and I'm really glad I did.

> > >> Now I think I need to expand into what IE is and see what I can learn.

I

> > >> sure need a more realistic relationship with food.

> > >>

> > >> Best!

> > >>

> > >> Sunny

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

josie,

I agree with you. My experience was that I loved the ideas in Geneen's earlier

books but couldn't figure out how to apply them for myself. So I guess I needed

a few more diets (or a dozen LOL). After seeing her on Oprah I knew I HAD to

rush out & buy the book. By that time I had been involved with this IE_support

board & had taken a couple of one evening workshops with an IE coach. So, I was

READY to hear Geneen's message & TAKE IT IN. Of course I'm an over the top kind

of gal so I not only have WFG but about 7 or 8 other IE books now & I read &

practice from them all. For me, I can't imagine ever actually going back to

dieting. My mind still sometimes likes to think about dieting when the " voice "

(I call her Mildread) is telling me that I am getting fat again (which isn't

true). I'm really learning to challenge those darn lies that " Mildread " wants

to trick me into believing. I like to win so watch out " Millie " because you will

be getting a swift kick in the butt next time.

Isn't it fun to finally get a handle on the " voice " ?

mj

> > >>

> > >

> > >> So Now my question is, what's the best book anyone recommends for

learning

> > >> and getting into IE. I came here through a different route. I was

> > >> looking for an active support group for McKenna's I can make you

thin

> > >> program. I spent the money to join his " club " and guess what? The

forums don't

> > >> work. Well, the tapes I got were worth the money but I was looking for

an

> > >> active support group. I stumbled on this one and I'm really glad I did.

> > >> Now I think I need to expand into what IE is and see what I can learn.

I

> > >> sure need a more realistic relationship with food.

> > >>

> > >> Best!

> > >>

> > >> Sunny

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

josie,

I agree with you. My experience was that I loved the ideas in Geneen's earlier

books but couldn't figure out how to apply them for myself. So I guess I needed

a few more diets (or a dozen LOL). After seeing her on Oprah I knew I HAD to

rush out & buy the book. By that time I had been involved with this IE_support

board & had taken a couple of one evening workshops with an IE coach. So, I was

READY to hear Geneen's message & TAKE IT IN. Of course I'm an over the top kind

of gal so I not only have WFG but about 7 or 8 other IE books now & I read &

practice from them all. For me, I can't imagine ever actually going back to

dieting. My mind still sometimes likes to think about dieting when the " voice "

(I call her Mildread) is telling me that I am getting fat again (which isn't

true). I'm really learning to challenge those darn lies that " Mildread " wants

to trick me into believing. I like to win so watch out " Millie " because you will

be getting a swift kick in the butt next time.

Isn't it fun to finally get a handle on the " voice " ?

mj

> > >>

> > >

> > >> So Now my question is, what's the best book anyone recommends for

learning

> > >> and getting into IE. I came here through a different route. I was

> > >> looking for an active support group for McKenna's I can make you

thin

> > >> program. I spent the money to join his " club " and guess what? The

forums don't

> > >> work. Well, the tapes I got were worth the money but I was looking for

an

> > >> active support group. I stumbled on this one and I'm really glad I did.

> > >> Now I think I need to expand into what IE is and see what I can learn.

I

> > >> sure need a more realistic relationship with food.

> > >>

> > >> Best!

> > >>

> > >> Sunny

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >