Re: Why do some diabetics not get complications

[Guest guest]

congrats, that is a very good testament, to how well someone can do. Vicky

Re: Why do some diabetics not get complications

Dave,

I wonder this, too. I also wonder if the statement that 70% of diabetics

have some degree of kidney damage after 10 years is true, or whether

this is based on statistics from 30 or 40 years ago. A diabetic

diagnosed 10 years ago would have been diagnosed in 2000 or 2001 when

all the insulin analogues, insulin pumps, multiple daily injections,

carbohydrate counting, diabetes management software, and so on were

available. Unless they totally ignored their diabetes, I find it hard to

believe 70% will have kidney damage today using all those tools

properly. I truly believe that kids being diagnosed today who are put on

pumps and continuous glucose monitors within a year of diagnosis may

live their entire lives without ever getting complications as long as

they take full advantage of those tools.

I personally count myself lucky to have no signs of complications after

nearly 20 years of Type 1, but then I have also had pretty good control

all my life. Not fantastically, super, ultra-tight control, but decent

control. I never even really went through the usual " rebellion " stage as

a teenager or young adult. And maybe I shouldn't speak too soon, since I

am getting my yearly bloodwork done in a few weeks!

Jen

>

> I wonder if the correlation is that people who have had diabetes for

> more than 30 years, with few or no problems, have simply taken care of

> their diabetes better.

>

> Thanks, Pat.

>

> Dave

>

[Guest guest]

So glad to hear you won that law suit! Too often the doc wins. For all the

years I have been diabetic, I have never been treated-or non-treated –in a

bad way that hurt me. The only person who hurt me was myself by not

following the necessr

Way of eating. But I am still here and kicking. A good attitude means a

lot and being positive most of the time helps too.

_____

From: blind-diabetics

[mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Sugar

Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 9:07 PM

To: blind-diabetics

Subject: Re: Why do some diabetics not get complications

well, as awful as it sounds, it is very true, or else I am sure I wouldn't

be going through what I'm going through now...

I went to USCMedical center, in E. Los Angels.

then when I was 21, I turned around and sewed the pants off them, and won.

to this day the entire staff that " worked " fro me, or i should say " against "

me, had their license to practice medicine taken away, and I still get

letters today telling me that Dr, so and so wished to apply at so and so,

but was automatically denied because of your case, Mrs. .

so at least they are not hurting more children, it was the children

department.

I was still sighted and nothing was wrong with me at the time I took them to

court,

but sad and so true, when one does not know what this terrible disease is, I

was the first in my family to get it, and out of my other sibblings, I'm the

lucky one, LLOLOLOL

my attitude is good, and I can't say I am happier now, then I was then, yeh

it's the drag, but what can I do, but to try to enjoy what the good Lord has

blessed me with now and keep my focus on the future, and of course, try to

help, and educate those who may not know.

hugs

sugar

'Just live & die & let me breathe'

~Sugar

Why do some diabetics not get complications

Why Do Some Diabetics Escape Complications?

ScienceDaily (Jan. 23, 2011) - Much research has been carried out on why

diabetics develop complications. Now researchers are asking the question

the

other way around. They want to know why some diabetic patients do not

develop complications. What is it that protects them? The PROLONG study

could provide the answer.

_____

explains Valeriya Lyssenko, who along with Nilsson, both from Lund

University Diabetes Centre, leads the PROLONG (PROLONG stands for

PROtective

genes in diabetes and LONGevity) study.

Stiff sugary arteries

Major diabetic complications include kidney disease (nephropathy), eye

damage (retinopathy), heart attacks and stroke. Despite decades of

intensive

research on diabetes complications, the fundamental mechanisms are not yet

fully known. Neither is it possible to prevent or treat the damage to the

blood vessels that affects the majority of diabetics.

The risk of dying from cardiovascular disease is two to three times higher

for diabetics than for non-diabetics. The small blood vessels are also

damaged. After only ten years with diabetes, 70 per cent of patients will

have some form of kidney damage that may progress to kidney failure. As

many

suffer from eye complications -- some will develop severe visual

impairment

and two per cent will become blind.

" The blood vessels and other organs of the body become sugar coated and

stiff. It is reminiscent of premature biological ageing, " says

Nilsson.

Half of the veterans

Perhaps nature itself can answer the question of why some patients are

protected. This is what the PROLONG study will investigate.

Today there are approximately 12 000 people in Sweden who have had

diabetes

for more than 30 years; of these, 1 600 have had it for over 50 years.

" About half of these diabetic veterans do not have major complications.

Two

thirds of those who have had diabetes for more than 50 years have escaped

complications. Clearly they are different and we want to find out what it

is

that protects them, " says Valeriya Lyssenko.

Greatest risk passed after 30 years

The PROLONG study is starting now in Skåne with a pilot study of patients

with diabetes duration of more than 30 years. At a later stage patients

will

be recruited from all hospitals and health care centres in Sweden. They

will

be compared with diabetics who have already developed severe complications

despite having had diabetes for less than 15 years.

The 30-year limit has been chosen because a person who has had diabetes

for

such a long time without developing complications is unlikely to do so

later

in life.

Copying nature's protective mechanisms

Participants in the PROLONG study will answer questions about their

lifestyle and about diseases they, or their closest relatives, may have.

Various blood samples, including genetic tests, will be analysed, and

close

relatives of the participants will also be invited to take part in the

study.

" If we can identify factors protecting these veterans from devastating

complications, then it might be possible to develop drugs that can do the

same thing, " says Valeriya Lyssenko.

[Guest guest]

So glad to hear you won that law suit! Too often the doc wins. For all the

years I have been diabetic, I have never been treated-or non-treated –in a

bad way that hurt me. The only person who hurt me was myself by not

following the necessr

Way of eating. But I am still here and kicking. A good attitude means a

lot and being positive most of the time helps too.

_____

From: blind-diabetics

[mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Sugar

Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 9:07 PM

To: blind-diabetics

Subject: Re: Why do some diabetics not get complications

well, as awful as it sounds, it is very true, or else I am sure I wouldn't

be going through what I'm going through now...

I went to USCMedical center, in E. Los Angels.

then when I was 21, I turned around and sewed the pants off them, and won.

to this day the entire staff that " worked " fro me, or i should say " against "

me, had their license to practice medicine taken away, and I still get

letters today telling me that Dr, so and so wished to apply at so and so,

but was automatically denied because of your case, Mrs. .

so at least they are not hurting more children, it was the children

department.

I was still sighted and nothing was wrong with me at the time I took them to

court,

but sad and so true, when one does not know what this terrible disease is, I

was the first in my family to get it, and out of my other sibblings, I'm the

lucky one, LLOLOLOL

my attitude is good, and I can't say I am happier now, then I was then, yeh

it's the drag, but what can I do, but to try to enjoy what the good Lord has

blessed me with now and keep my focus on the future, and of course, try to

help, and educate those who may not know.

hugs

sugar

'Just live & die & let me breathe'

~Sugar

Why do some diabetics not get complications

Why Do Some Diabetics Escape Complications?

ScienceDaily (Jan. 23, 2011) - Much research has been carried out on why

diabetics develop complications. Now researchers are asking the question

the

other way around. They want to know why some diabetic patients do not

develop complications. What is it that protects them? The PROLONG study

could provide the answer.

_____

explains Valeriya Lyssenko, who along with Nilsson, both from Lund

University Diabetes Centre, leads the PROLONG (PROLONG stands for

PROtective

genes in diabetes and LONGevity) study.

Stiff sugary arteries

Major diabetic complications include kidney disease (nephropathy), eye

damage (retinopathy), heart attacks and stroke. Despite decades of

intensive

research on diabetes complications, the fundamental mechanisms are not yet

fully known. Neither is it possible to prevent or treat the damage to the

blood vessels that affects the majority of diabetics.

The risk of dying from cardiovascular disease is two to three times higher

for diabetics than for non-diabetics. The small blood vessels are also

damaged. After only ten years with diabetes, 70 per cent of patients will

have some form of kidney damage that may progress to kidney failure. As

many

suffer from eye complications -- some will develop severe visual

impairment

and two per cent will become blind.

" The blood vessels and other organs of the body become sugar coated and

stiff. It is reminiscent of premature biological ageing, " says

Nilsson.

Half of the veterans

Perhaps nature itself can answer the question of why some patients are

protected. This is what the PROLONG study will investigate.

Today there are approximately 12 000 people in Sweden who have had

diabetes

for more than 30 years; of these, 1 600 have had it for over 50 years.

" About half of these diabetic veterans do not have major complications.

Two

thirds of those who have had diabetes for more than 50 years have escaped

complications. Clearly they are different and we want to find out what it

is

that protects them, " says Valeriya Lyssenko.

Greatest risk passed after 30 years

The PROLONG study is starting now in Skåne with a pilot study of patients

with diabetes duration of more than 30 years. At a later stage patients

will

be recruited from all hospitals and health care centres in Sweden. They

will

be compared with diabetics who have already developed severe complications

despite having had diabetes for less than 15 years.

The 30-year limit has been chosen because a person who has had diabetes

for

such a long time without developing complications is unlikely to do so

later

in life.

Copying nature's protective mechanisms

Participants in the PROLONG study will answer questions about their

lifestyle and about diseases they, or their closest relatives, may have.

Various blood samples, including genetic tests, will be analysed, and

close

relatives of the participants will also be invited to take part in the

study.

" If we can identify factors protecting these veterans from devastating

complications, then it might be possible to develop drugs that can do the

same thing, " says Valeriya Lyssenko.

[Guest guest]

So glad to hear you won that law suit! Too often the doc wins. For all the

years I have been diabetic, I have never been treated-or non-treated –in a

bad way that hurt me. The only person who hurt me was myself by not

following the necessr

Way of eating. But I am still here and kicking. A good attitude means a

lot and being positive most of the time helps too.

_____

From: blind-diabetics

[mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Sugar

Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 9:07 PM

To: blind-diabetics

Subject: Re: Why do some diabetics not get complications

well, as awful as it sounds, it is very true, or else I am sure I wouldn't

be going through what I'm going through now...

I went to USCMedical center, in E. Los Angels.

then when I was 21, I turned around and sewed the pants off them, and won.

to this day the entire staff that " worked " fro me, or i should say " against "

me, had their license to practice medicine taken away, and I still get

letters today telling me that Dr, so and so wished to apply at so and so,

but was automatically denied because of your case, Mrs. .

so at least they are not hurting more children, it was the children

department.

I was still sighted and nothing was wrong with me at the time I took them to

court,

but sad and so true, when one does not know what this terrible disease is, I

was the first in my family to get it, and out of my other sibblings, I'm the

lucky one, LLOLOLOL

my attitude is good, and I can't say I am happier now, then I was then, yeh

it's the drag, but what can I do, but to try to enjoy what the good Lord has

blessed me with now and keep my focus on the future, and of course, try to

help, and educate those who may not know.

hugs

sugar

'Just live & die & let me breathe'

~Sugar

Why do some diabetics not get complications

Why Do Some Diabetics Escape Complications?

ScienceDaily (Jan. 23, 2011) - Much research has been carried out on why

diabetics develop complications. Now researchers are asking the question

the

other way around. They want to know why some diabetic patients do not

develop complications. What is it that protects them? The PROLONG study

could provide the answer.

_____

explains Valeriya Lyssenko, who along with Nilsson, both from Lund

University Diabetes Centre, leads the PROLONG (PROLONG stands for

PROtective

genes in diabetes and LONGevity) study.

Stiff sugary arteries

Major diabetic complications include kidney disease (nephropathy), eye

damage (retinopathy), heart attacks and stroke. Despite decades of

intensive

research on diabetes complications, the fundamental mechanisms are not yet

fully known. Neither is it possible to prevent or treat the damage to the

blood vessels that affects the majority of diabetics.

The risk of dying from cardiovascular disease is two to three times higher

for diabetics than for non-diabetics. The small blood vessels are also

damaged. After only ten years with diabetes, 70 per cent of patients will

have some form of kidney damage that may progress to kidney failure. As

many

suffer from eye complications -- some will develop severe visual

impairment

and two per cent will become blind.

" The blood vessels and other organs of the body become sugar coated and

stiff. It is reminiscent of premature biological ageing, " says

Nilsson.

Half of the veterans

Perhaps nature itself can answer the question of why some patients are

protected. This is what the PROLONG study will investigate.

Today there are approximately 12 000 people in Sweden who have had

diabetes

for more than 30 years; of these, 1 600 have had it for over 50 years.

" About half of these diabetic veterans do not have major complications.

Two

thirds of those who have had diabetes for more than 50 years have escaped

complications. Clearly they are different and we want to find out what it

is

that protects them, " says Valeriya Lyssenko.

Greatest risk passed after 30 years

The PROLONG study is starting now in Skåne with a pilot study of patients

with diabetes duration of more than 30 years. At a later stage patients

will

be recruited from all hospitals and health care centres in Sweden. They

will

be compared with diabetics who have already developed severe complications

despite having had diabetes for less than 15 years.

The 30-year limit has been chosen because a person who has had diabetes

for

such a long time without developing complications is unlikely to do so

later

in life.

Copying nature's protective mechanisms

Participants in the PROLONG study will answer questions about their

lifestyle and about diseases they, or their closest relatives, may have.

Various blood samples, including genetic tests, will be analysed, and

close

relatives of the participants will also be invited to take part in the

study.

" If we can identify factors protecting these veterans from devastating

complications, then it might be possible to develop drugs that can do the

same thing, " says Valeriya Lyssenko.

[Guest guest]

yes thanks Chuck, I feel good about it, not only because I won, but becqause

those individuals who called themselves " doctor's " can no longer hurt other

children.

sugar

" When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at

the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us. "

- Helen Keller

~Sugar

Why do some diabetics not get complications

Why Do Some Diabetics Escape Complications?

ScienceDaily (Jan. 23, 2011) - Much research has been carried out on why

diabetics develop complications. Now researchers are asking the question

the

other way around. They want to know why some diabetic patients do not

develop complications. What is it that protects them? The PROLONG study

could provide the answer.

_____

explains Valeriya Lyssenko, who along with Nilsson, both from Lund

University Diabetes Centre, leads the PROLONG (PROLONG stands for

PROtective

genes in diabetes and LONGevity) study.

Stiff sugary arteries

Major diabetic complications include kidney disease (nephropathy), eye

damage (retinopathy), heart attacks and stroke. Despite decades of

intensive

research on diabetes complications, the fundamental mechanisms are not yet

fully known. Neither is it possible to prevent or treat the damage to the

blood vessels that affects the majority of diabetics.

The risk of dying from cardiovascular disease is two to three times higher

for diabetics than for non-diabetics. The small blood vessels are also

damaged. After only ten years with diabetes, 70 per cent of patients will

have some form of kidney damage that may progress to kidney failure. As

many

suffer from eye complications -- some will develop severe visual

impairment

and two per cent will become blind.

" The blood vessels and other organs of the body become sugar coated and

stiff. It is reminiscent of premature biological ageing, " says

Nilsson.

Half of the veterans

Perhaps nature itself can answer the question of why some patients are

protected. This is what the PROLONG study will investigate.

Today there are approximately 12 000 people in Sweden who have had

diabetes

for more than 30 years; of these, 1 600 have had it for over 50 years.

" About half of these diabetic veterans do not have major complications.

Two

thirds of those who have had diabetes for more than 50 years have escaped

complications. Clearly they are different and we want to find out what it

is

that protects them, " says Valeriya Lyssenko.

Greatest risk passed after 30 years

The PROLONG study is starting now in Skåne with a pilot study of patients

with diabetes duration of more than 30 years. At a later stage patients

will

be recruited from all hospitals and health care centres in Sweden. They

will

be compared with diabetics who have already developed severe complications

despite having had diabetes for less than 15 years.

The 30-year limit has been chosen because a person who has had diabetes

for

such a long time without developing complications is unlikely to do so

later

in life.

Copying nature's protective mechanisms

Participants in the PROLONG study will answer questions about their

lifestyle and about diseases they, or their closest relatives, may have.

Various blood samples, including genetic tests, will be analysed, and

close

relatives of the participants will also be invited to take part in the

study.

" If we can identify factors protecting these veterans from devastating

complications, then it might be possible to develop drugs that can do the

same thing, " says Valeriya Lyssenko.