chemo

[Guest guest]

Hunt, M.D.

[ ] chemo

> I've been following the discussion on chemo. I don't

> have Moss's book but would like some info if someone

> has it. The doctor is talking about intrathecal

> methotrexate because my daughter has some " suspicious

> cells " in her CSF. She's doing 714x for one month

> now. It is supposed to help brain cancer. She has a

> negative Cat scan and neg MRI for her brain. They

> didn't do the spine. She had spinal cord compression

> and an operation in Jan. Almost didn't make it but has

> fully recovered all functions. The reason they started

> looking at the CSF is because she has developed a

> drooping eyelid. Also does anyone know of a doctor in

> the LA area who is open to alternative medicine. I

> know they are forbidden to use anything other than the

> usual slash burn and poison protocol. Good luck to

> everybody out there. You are very brave souls. Margit

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Go to ACAM: Find a Doctor

http://www.acam.org/dr_search/

--- In , Margit Arthur <margit34@y...>

wrote [Message 12220, 10 June 2004]:

> ...Also does anyone know of a doctor in

> the LA area who is open to alternative medicine....

[Guest guest]

what???

C

Donna <donnadbd777@...> wrote:

Chemo is something the Nazis would do. God save the queen. Would it

not be nice to hear docs encouarge Omega 3s. My life, my love, my

lady is the sea. What a good life you would be. Peace and Grace,

Donna

[Guest guest]

AMEN!!

From: " Donna "

Chemo is something the Nazis would do. God save the queen. Would it

not be nice to hear docs encouarge Omega 3s. My life, my love, my

lady is the sea. What a good life you would be.

[Guest guest]

I was diagnosed Febuary two years ago. I was given six treatments of TAC. I

stopped, against medical advice, and took three weeks to detox with nothing but

raw veggies. About 5 months later at the insistance of my family and

friends, started a milder version of chemo with Herceptin and received about 3

months worth of treatment. Herceptin, the wonder drug, the downside is it

causes heart and lung damage. I was concerned too that the chemo was really

harsh on my digestive system and have read that makes it hard to ever overcome

the ca as it further impairs ones ability to absorb nutrients. My dad did make

a good analogy in that he said that it was like my house was on fire and I did

not want the fireman to put it out because I was worried about the furniture

getting wet. My dad too, though, grew up in an era when maybe the docs adhered

to their oath to do no harm. I can not say that the chemo has not/will not

contributed to prolonging my life.

With the first round of chemo the spots in my liver cleared. Although I was

told that not many people showed a favorable response, so I have to wonder if

the alternative supplements I was using played a part. What frightens me is

with it being stage IV I was told that the chemo would be indefinite and given

three to five years to live. I have watched vibrant young women, who following

their doctors advice, live two years with chemo, succumbing to pneumonia or

other impaired immunity disorders and spending the third year in the hospital

only to die.

I also frequent an alternative psoriasis support group. And I did just read

an encouraging post by a mom whose lil boys eczema was cleared with diet.

Read another post about a child using steroid creams and becoming psycotic. The

talk is about Elidel, once again the FDA has deemed profit a priority rather

than children getting cancer. Seems to me the " do no harm " in the Hippocratic

Oath got lost along the way. It is remenisent to me of Nazi Germany.

Submitting to medical " care " whose only option is pharmaceuticals, whose adverse

effects not only host more maladies to be treated and all the while making a

profit while not only deteriorating the quality of life but ultimatley ushering

in death. I know there are genuinely concerned physicians, but what will it

take before people stand up and say enough! What if all the IVs that were

started for chemo, people were given something that would enhance the bodies

ability to heal itself. Would it be such a crime if the docs were allowed

legally to make specific nutrition recommendations. There were 6 million Jews

who were massacred before anyone cared to make a stand.

My treatments were about $7000 a pop including the Procrit and the neulasta,

cant imagine not having insurance, although there are times I wonder it was a

curse rather than a blessing. I was concerned too about the Procrit and the

neulasta as the effects of it where even worse than the chemo. I have since

read from one source, more technical than I could reiterate, but that they host

a favorable environment for cancer to grow.

My concern now is I am suppose to have more tests run the first of April

after being off the chemo again. I have not whole heartedly pursued an

alternative treatment and would at least like three months under my belt before

subjecting myself to more radiation, which is astounding to me that it is one of

the few things that admittedly causes cancer. I apologize if my views seem

radical, It is just that I am frightened. Peace and grace, Donna

[Guest guest]

Do not overlook the benefits of alkalizing. Go to the Cesiumtherapy group.

Dottie

[Guest guest]

He can take Cantron along with his chemo. This will prevent him from feeling

the effects of chemo. check it out on the cantron group. Go right to the

files for info

What kind of cancer does he have? Blessings, debbie.

temarcum wrote:

My father took his first chemo treatment last monday. He was feeling

great all week and today has been his worst yet. It's like he just

crashed. Has anyone had this type of experence and does it get better?

Can he take something to detox his body? Thanks for any response.

Todd

[Guest guest]

Some modern poisons used in chemo stay 5 years in body.

Give soaked dates or dried black grapes after soaking overnight. Adding

Tulsi (holy basil) leaves makes them stay.

dr bhate

temarcum wrote:

> Does anyone know how long chemo stays in one's body after treatment?

> After chemo my father could not keep food down and he is just

starting to eat solids but very little. Is there something to give to him to get

his appetite back?

> Thanks,

> Todd

>

[Guest guest]

Before I was given chemo they gave me anti-nausia tablets - and I continued

to take these for about four or five days as the chemicals were cleared from

my body

Drinking lots helps - but they say not too many juices immediately around

the chemo date as they may interfere with the chemo

I suggest he contacts his oncologist and explains the situation - they might

be able to help

As for appetite - well things taste differently - there are many of these

side effects -best a little at a time and regularly

Love and Healing

Ian

PS remind him - if the chemo makes him feel sick - then just imagine how

sick the cancers cells feel! :-)

Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006

From: " temarcum "

Subject: chemo

Does anyone know how long chemo stays in one's body after treatment?

After chemo my father could not keep food down and he is just starting

to eat solids but very little. Is there something to give to him to

get his appetite back?

Thanks,

Todd

[Guest guest]

Gerson's Therapy claims that the body only eliminates 40 - 60% of the chemo

drugs from the body. The Gerson Therapy/diet is supposed to allow the body to

eliminate the chemo remaining in your body.

I am doing the therapy now. As the chemo drugs leave the body, they say you will

feel some of the same feelings of when you got the chemo initially. I do feel a

slight nausea from time to time as I do this therapy.

Dolores

From: " temarcum "

Does anyone know how long chemo stays in one's body after treatment?

After chemo my father could not keep food down and he is just starting

to eat solids but very little. Is there something to give to him to

get his appetite back?

Thanks, Todd

[Guest guest]

Gerson's Therapy claims that the body only eliminates 40 - 60% of the

chemo drugs from the body. The Gerson Therapy/diet is supposed to

allow the body to eliminate the chemo remaining in your body.

I am doing the therapy now. As the chemo drugs leave the body, they

say you will feel some of the same feelings of when you got the chemo

initially. I do feel a slight nausea from time to time as I do this

therapy.

Dolores

From: " temarcum "

Does anyone know how long chemo stays in one's body after treatment?

After chemo my father could not keep food down and he is just

starting to eat solids but very little. Is there something to give to

him to get his appetite back? Thanks, Todd

[Guest guest]

The half life of most chemo drugs ranges between 1.5-12 hours, depending on

the drug, the regiment (dose and length of infusion) and on the individual.

Gubi

[Guest guest]

what health issues are you dealing with? How long have you been on LDN? What dose? mjh

Posted by: "newtoldn" susankayelledge@... newtoldn

Mon Jan 7, 2008 9:02 pm (PST)

I have been in an attack for 1 1/2 yrs and my Dr has tried everything now he want to do the chemo. Has any one had bad side effects from it or has any good come out of it? Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Can you elaborate on what you have, what you have been doing (meds etc), and how long?

Thanks

Aletha

[low dose naltrexone] Chemo

I have been in an attack for 1 1/2 yrs and my Dr has tried everything now he want to do the chemo. Has any one had bad side effects from it or has any good come out of it?

[Guest guest]

Hi newtoldn,

I am assuming you have MS. If that assumption is correct, please visit this site

for information about LDN and other important treatment options:

http://tinyurl.com/grpm9

This site lists some of the side effects of chemo:

http://tinyurl.com/2p57xv

With best wishes,

Dudley Delany

dudley_delany

[low dose naltrexone] Chemo

I have been in an attack for 1 1/2 yrs and my Dr has tried everything

now he want to do the chemo. Has any one had bad side effects from it

or has any good come out of it?

[Guest guest]

Hi, I have breast cancer and I am pretty sure it has

spread to my lungs. There is also a lump in my foot

which I am sure is a tumor, and showed up about 1 week

after very rought mamograms. I am doing budwig for 3

weeks. If this crap wasnt spreading I wouldnt be so

worried, but I dont know if budwig will kick in soon

enough as most people say it takes at least 2 to 3

months to effect tumors. I havent been back to the

doctor in 6 weeks since diagnosis. I'm wondering what

you people would do about going back, having surgery,

and chemo, etc.

Thanks, Robyn

[Guest guest]

The Rath vitamin protocol halts the metastasis of cancer about 94% of

the time.

http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/

Get plenty of unobstructed sunlight. No eye glasses or blocking lotions

either. Low pressure mercury sun lamps condense 1/2 hour of natural

sunlight exposure down to 5 minutes.

http://sperti.com/

Look at Essiac tea, Laetrille (use vitamin A and protoleyic enzymes

along with it) and this interesting protocol:

http://www.cancertutor.com/faq/faq_inexpensive.html

Spend some time on the Cancer Tutor site, its excellent!

>

>

> Hi, I have breast cancer and I am pretty sure it has

> spread to my lungs. There is also a lump in my foot

> which I am sure is a tumor, and showed up about 1 week

> after very rought mamograms. I am doing budwig for 3

> weeks. If this crap wasnt spreading I wouldnt be so

> worried, but I dont know if budwig will kick in soon

> enough as most people say it takes at least 2 to 3

> months to effect tumors. I havent been back to the

> doctor in 6 weeks since diagnosis. I'm wondering what

> you people would do about going back, having surgery,

> and chemo, etc.

> Thanks, Robyn

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Robyn,

How are you sure it has spread to your lungs? Breast cancer pretty much

never shows up in the foot, so I'm not sure what the lump in your foot

is. Since you have not been back to the doctor, it might be a good idea

to go see him and ask him these questions. It is my opinion that

believing the cancer to have spread, without having any proof, could be

detrimental to your health and mental well-being. I'm a firm believer

in knowing what you are dealing with and getting all the facts.

Three weeks is probably not long enough for the Budwig protocol to take

effect. It took you a long time to get to this stage, it won't go away

in just a few weeks, unfortunately.

Whether or not you decide to choose chemo, surgery, radiation, etc, is

completely up to you. I know that I would not be able to make that

decision without knowing all the details concerning the cancer I have.

Is your cancer hormone positive? Are you following Budwig 100%? How

aggressive is your cancer - what grade is it? Were you staged? If your

cancer is hormone positive, what other things have you thought to do

about it? Have you asked around for a qualified naturopath or Chinese

medicine doctor who can help you work through the hundreds of different

alternative options out there?

Again, it is my opinion that knowledge is power and with that knowledge,

you can find your answer. Also, it is my opinion that cancer treatment

is a personal choice and no one should be made to feel bad about their

choices. I also believe it is best to attack things from all angles.

This is why I chose surgery and radiation and follow-up with

alternatives. I am a huge believer in alternatives, but all my

pre-cancer precautions didn't work - as I developed it anyway. So, I

did what I felt I had to do and now will continue on my way with

alternatives again.

My best to you.

ar

On Fri, 23 May 2008 12:29:28 -0700 (PDT), " robyn howell "

<robynehowell@...> said:

>

> Hi, I have breast cancer and I am pretty sure it has

> spread to my lungs. There is also a lump in my foot

> which I am sure is a tumor, and showed up about 1 week

> after very rought mamograms. I am doing budwig for 3

> weeks. If this crap wasnt spreading I wouldnt be so

> worried, but I dont know if budwig will kick in soon

> enough as most people say it takes at least 2 to 3

> months to effect tumors. I havent been back to the

> doctor in 6 weeks since diagnosis. I'm wondering what

> you people would do about going back, having surgery,

> and chemo, etc.

> Thanks, Robyn

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Intravenous vitamin C and low dose naltrexone might be each worth looking at.

Check the files section of the group for the former, and search the message

archive for the latter.

RB

>

>

> Hi, I have breast cancer and I am pretty sure it has

> spread to my lungs. There is also a lump in my foot

> which I am sure is a tumor, and showed up about 1 week

> after very rought mamograms. I am doing budwig for 3

> weeks. If this crap wasnt spreading I wouldnt be so

> worried, but I dont know if budwig will kick in soon

> enough as most people say it takes at least 2 to 3

> months to effect tumors. I havent been back to the

> doctor in 6 weeks since diagnosis. I'm wondering what

> you people would do about going back, having surgery,

> and chemo, etc.

> Thanks, Robyn

>

[Guest guest]

http://www.lukeacupuncture.com might be abe to direct you, or give you some

advice over the phone.

>

> > Hi Robyn,

> >

> > How are you sure it has spread to your lungs?

> > Breast cancer pretty much

> > never shows up in the foot, so I'm not sure what the

> > lump in your foot

> > is. Since you have not been back to the doctor, it

> > might be a good idea

> > to go see him and ask him these questions. It is my

> > opinion that

> > believing the cancer to have spread, without having

> > any proof, could be

> > detrimental to your health and mental well-being.

> > I'm a firm believer

> > in knowing what you are dealing with and getting all

> > the facts.

> >

> > Three weeks is probably not long enough for the

> > Budwig protocol to take

> > effect. It took you a long time to get to this

> > stage, it won't go away

> > in just a few weeks, unfortunately.

> >

> > Whether or not you decide to choose chemo, surgery,

> > radiation, etc, is

> > completely up to you. I know that I would not be

> > able to make that

> > decision without knowing all the details concerning

> > the cancer I have.

> > Is your cancer hormone positive? Are you following

> > Budwig 100%? How

> > aggressive is your cancer - what grade is it? Were

> > you staged? If your

> > cancer is hormone positive, what other things have

> > you thought to do

> > about it? Have you asked around for a qualified

> > naturopath or Chinese

> > medicine doctor who can help you work through the

> > hundreds of different

> > alternative options out there?

> >

> > Again, it is my opinion that knowledge is power and

> > with that knowledge,

> > you can find your answer. Also, it is my opinion

> > that cancer treatment

> > is a personal choice and no one should be made to

> > feel bad about their

> > choices. I also believe it is best to attack things

> > from all angles.

> > This is why I chose surgery and radiation and

> > follow-up with

> > alternatives. I am a huge believer in alternatives,

> > but all my

> > pre-cancer precautions didn't work - as I developed

> > it anyway. So, I

> > did what I felt I had to do and now will continue on

> > my way with

> > alternatives again.

> >

> > My best to you.

> >

> > ar

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Lea,

I guess I have taken it into my own hands. Wonder what my doctor

thinks of all this????

I will find out in 6 days.

This is really going to be the toughest battle of my life, and if I

win, I get from 2 to 4-5 years to live. If I lose this one right

now, I might have a year or so.

Love you,

Lynda

>Lynda, we love you, and you will live forever. I know that I would

>have died if I had not taken my health care into my own hands.

>

>We are so proud of the way that you are coping with all this pain. I

>admire you so much for sharing your journey with our group.

>

>Sending love and hope to you both...Lea and

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`

> FW: The Zen of Sarcasm

>

>

>

>The Zen of Sarcasm

>

>1. Do not walk ahead of me for I may not follow. Do not walk behind

>me for I may not lead. Do not walk beside me either. Just pretty

>much leave me alone

>

>2. The journey of a thousand miles begins with a broken fan belt or a

>leaky tire.

>

>3.It is always darkest before dawn. So if you're going to steal your

>neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it.

>

>4. Don't be irreplaceable. If you can't be replaced, you can't be promoted.

>

>5. Always remember that you're unique. Just like everyone else.

>

>6. Never test the depth of the water with both feet.

>

>7. If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of

>car payments.

>

>8. Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their

>shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you

>have their shoes.

>

>9. If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is probably not for you.

>

>10.Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to

>fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.

>

>11.If you lend someone $20 and never see that person again, it was

>probably a wise investment.

>

>12. If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.

>

>13. Some days you're the bug; some days you're the windshield.

>

>14 Everyone seems normal until you get to know them.

>

>15. The quickest way to double your money is to fold it in half and

>put it back in your pocket.

>

>16. A closed mouth gathers no foot.

>

>17. Duct tape is like 'The Force'. It has a light side and a dark

>side, and it holds the universe together.

>

>18.There are two theories to arguing with women. Neither one works.

>

>19. Generally speaking, you aren't learning much when your lips are moving.

>

>20. Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.

>

>21 Never miss a good chance to shut up.

>

>AND

>

>22 Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping pill and a

>laxative on the same night.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lynda ~

Thank you for the update ! You are in

all our thoughts and prayers.

Sending you lots of love and healing energies,

prayers and hope !

Love

Dede**************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

[Guest guest]

Will get back to everyone after Friday when I see the doc. Hopefully

he is communicating with MD (Dr. Vicente Volare) in Houston,

and I have told him my expectations for next Friday are to have a

plan in place that is aggressive enough to kill off the cancer. I

have brought up trials of new drugs, with my expectations for what I

would need to have as minimal requirements (you don't know if you are

getting the trial drug, but they have to give you something that is

pretty effective against cancer). I have researched many options

online. I will be taking them to him. I will know more by Friday,

but as of now, everything is up in the air and the chemo kept me

stable but did not kill off any more of the tumors since April.

So, you may not hear much from me for a few days. I am working on

things. My therapist thinks I have it more together than my

doctor. Don't know about that, but I did send him an email with my

expectations and my disappointment that he seems to have given up on

me. He denies this, but I am not ready for Palliative treatment (the

anti-hormone) and I made that VERY clear to him.

Thanks for all the thoughts and prayers, when I have info. to share I

will share it, but for now I just need to take care of me.

Love,

Lynda

[Guest guest]

I read ne Sommers book about cancer.....and I am so glad people have a

choice instead of just going the conventional way.

Although, I have not been a member of this group for a long time - I read posts

by various individuals who went for alternative treatments and they were not

successful......and had to go the conventional way.

>

> (NaturalNews) LFO singer-songwriter Rich Cronin, creator of the smash hit

" Summer Girls, " died after receiving chemotherapy as a " treatment " for leukemia.

He was 35.

>

> Yes, 35.

> He was first diagnosed with leukemia in 2005 and underwent

> chemotherapy. Not surprisingly, the cancer returned in 2007 because

> chemotherapy doesn't cure cancer.

>

> The most common side effect of chemotherapy is, in fact, more cancer. This is

exactly what happened with Rich Cronin who suffered through a return of the

disease in 2007 and 2008.

>

> Chemotherapy is also extremely toxic to the liver, kidneys and brain. People

who undergo chemotherapy often suffer so-called " chemo brain " -- a significant

decline in mental function affecting memory and even personality.

>

> Chemotherapy keeps killing celebrities. Sadly, Rich Cronin joins a long list

of other celebrities who have died after choosing to poison themselves with

toxic chemotherapy.

>

> Swayze died after receiving chemotherapy for pancreatic cancer

(http://www.naturalnews.com/027047_c...);

>

> Farrah Fawcett died after chemotherapy for anal cancer

(http://www.naturalnews.com/026511_c...);

>

> Jennings died after chemotherapy treatments for lung cancer;

>

> Tony Snow died after chemotherapy treatments for colon cancer

(http://www.naturalnews.com/023626_c...).

>

> Just recently, actor announced he has stage 4 throat cancer

and would begin treating it with toxic chemotherapy and radiation

(http://www.naturalnews.com/029685_M...). I hope he has the wisdom to use

nutrition and superfoods to protect his healthy cells from the toxic effects of

chemotherapy, or he too might find himself in a rapid health decline.

>

> Celebrities who choose holistic, nutritional approaches to health have far

better outcomes, by the way. Suzanne Somers famously overcame her own breast

cancer by turning to natural remedies and a holistic lifestyle

(http://www.naturalnews.com/027526_S...).

>

> Also recently, Drew Carey cured his own diabetes by changing his diet and

working out at the gym.

>

> What is chemotherapy? Chemotherapy involves the injection of toxic poisons

into the human body. The term " therapy " in " chemotherapy " is actually a form of

false advertising -- there's nothing therapeutic about it.

>

> The chemicals used in chemotherapy are derived from mustard gas chemical

weapons used in World War I. They are so incredibly toxic to the human body that

pharmacists are getting cancer just from touching the chemotherapy drugs

(http://www.naturalnews.com/029191_s...).

>

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