Re: got you till age six, own you for life

[Guest guest]

Stefanie, oh she'd never dream it applied to her! Good on you for saying what

you did about calling your brother a donkey - maybe that made her think for a

few seconds.

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> > So I just wanted to float this little conversational snippet by you guys

> > and get some reactions. So my nada has always been very anti-religion

> > especially organized religion, especially Catholic. Ever since I was little

> > I can remember that when the subject of Catholics came up she would always

> > say - like a broken record - about how the Jesuits had a saying about " give

> > me a child till he's age six and he's mine for life " . She'd say this with a

> > dramatic flair like ooooo, look how psycho those Jesuits were brainwashing

> > those little kids, oh the horror!

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> > But here I'd be having felt controlled, smothered, and more brainwashed

> > than I knew from the beginning hearing her say this...and feeling sick. And

> > I still feel sick every time she says it. She said it today.

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> > I've decided I want a really good come back next time she says it -

> > something that will answer the passive-aggressive implication in her

> > statement which is " I own your ass " . I'd like to say yeah what that saying

> > refers to is a sin, owning another human being is slavery and wrong. Just

> > something to really answer the subtle message.

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> > Thoughts? And would this scenario squick any of you guys out or am I being

> > oversensitive?

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> > Thanks,

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> > P.S. - no offense meant to Catholics or Jesuits here...I'm not even sure

> > that saying was ever said by anybody outside of fiction, it was in Shogun I

> > think.

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[Guest guest]

phine, oh but she's saying she thinks it is awful what those terrible

Jesuits were doing (supposedly) to those children. She's decrying it. TO ME -

of all people.

And that's interesting about the love map - strong imprinting happens in early

childhood. I've spent years in therapy trying to undo things and I'm probably

better off than if I remained in ignorance but my life is still profoundly

affected. Feeling pretty depressed about the impact of it all some days.

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> I think it's true, apparently during the first six years is when the love map

is formed in the brain and it becomes somewhat cemented, it's supposedly how a

person gives and receives love, it is kind of hard-wired in there.

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> yeah it's a sick statement that doesn't need a comeback. or you could just

point out that exerting psychological power over someone by damaging them in

early childhood is not anything to be proud of or brag about.

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[Guest guest]

phine, oh but she's saying she thinks it is awful what those terrible

Jesuits were doing (supposedly) to those children. She's decrying it. TO ME -

of all people.

And that's interesting about the love map - strong imprinting happens in early

childhood. I've spent years in therapy trying to undo things and I'm probably

better off than if I remained in ignorance but my life is still profoundly

affected. Feeling pretty depressed about the impact of it all some days.

>

> I think it's true, apparently during the first six years is when the love map

is formed in the brain and it becomes somewhat cemented, it's supposedly how a

person gives and receives love, it is kind of hard-wired in there.

>

> yeah it's a sick statement that doesn't need a comeback. or you could just

point out that exerting psychological power over someone by damaging them in

early childhood is not anything to be proud of or brag about.

>

[Guest guest]

phine, oh but she's saying she thinks it is awful what those terrible

Jesuits were doing (supposedly) to those children. She's decrying it. TO ME -

of all people.

And that's interesting about the love map - strong imprinting happens in early

childhood. I've spent years in therapy trying to undo things and I'm probably

better off than if I remained in ignorance but my life is still profoundly

affected. Feeling pretty depressed about the impact of it all some days.

>

> I think it's true, apparently during the first six years is when the love map

is formed in the brain and it becomes somewhat cemented, it's supposedly how a

person gives and receives love, it is kind of hard-wired in there.

>

> yeah it's a sick statement that doesn't need a comeback. or you could just

point out that exerting psychological power over someone by damaging them in

early childhood is not anything to be proud of or brag about.

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